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- All matches are Bo3.
- Top 2 players of each group advance to the Playoffs
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[GSL 2021] Code S - Group C
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Poll: Who Advances? Zoun & Maru (13) Maru & sOs (10) RagnaroK & Maru (2) sOs & Zoun (2) RagnaroK & Zoun (0) sOs & RagnaroK (0) 27 total votes Your vote: Who Advances? (Vote): Maru & sOs | ||
Poopi
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tigera6
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buzz_bender
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On July 05 2021 18:21 tigera6 wrote: I gotta say Maru TvZ look fairly good last night even though he lost the series. He might just go full mech and beat Ragnarok again just like in ST2. Maru looked super clean and crisp against Inno, but made a bunch of small mistakes against Reynor. I'm wondering if the latency/ping really affects his playstyle that much, particularly since he did mention that European Zergs are only hard to play against because of the ping... We'll just have to see his control and play against Ragnarok and then we can tell the difference. | ||
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buzz_bender
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On July 05 2021 18:37 buzz_bender wrote: Maru looked super clean and crisp against Inno, but made a bunch of small mistakes against Reynor. I'm wondering if the latency/ping really affects his playstyle that much, particularly since he did mention that European Zergs are only hard to play against because of the ping... We'll just have to see his control and play against Ragnarok and then we can tell the difference. Not sure if we can use these two matches to tell the effect of ping tbh. Maru was also playing late last night, and Reynor is much better at pulling your attention apart and forcing mistakes than Ragnarok (and pretty much anyone in the world). Even without ping considerations, I think it's likely this series would cleaner from Maru due to other factors. | ||
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Poopi
France12886 Posts
On July 05 2021 18:21 tigera6 wrote: I gotta say Maru TvZ look fairly good last night even though he lost the series. He might just go full mech and beat Ragnarok again just like in ST2. I think he looked kinda sloppy in his bio games (except the 2 rax one because he didn't really get to look sloppy being massively behind), especially against the harass, although it seemed less worse as the series went on. | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
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buzz_bender
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swarminfestor
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Die4Ever
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swarminfestor
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
 Still a great move, and Maru didn't really handle it too gracefully. | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
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SenorChang
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Die4Ever
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Durnuu
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And zoun with the big balls making carriers | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
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SenorChang
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umelbumel
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tigera6
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On July 05 2021 19:40 tigera6 wrote: Wtf is sOs doing? Practicing for a career switch into baseball | ||
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SenorChang
Australia4730 Posts
vrs 48 phoenix there can only be one | ||
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Die4Ever
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SenorChang
Australia4730 Posts
that was embarrasing | ||
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Durnuu
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umelbumel
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tigera6
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swarminfestor
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
sOs played this real well | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
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parksonsc
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On July 05 2021 20:37 parksonsc wrote: It looks like Maru has trauma when it comes to playing his ex Jinar teammates (Rogue and sOs), even though he is better skillwise? Maru is not better than Rogue LMAO they are neck and neck | ||
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Durnuu
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On July 05 2021 20:41 AzAlexZ wrote: Maru is not better than Rogue LMAO they are neck and neck Terran players are superior, didn't you know? | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
LMAO April fools was 3 months ago | ||
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Snorkels
United States1015 Posts
come on sOs, close it out! | ||
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darklycid
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On July 05 2021 19:45 tigera6 wrote: Now somehow I want sOs to advance and get asked about what was he thinking in this game. Hey look at that. Merry Christmas! Happy Birthday! Hallelujah! | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
That was an absolutely sick Bo3. Some weird mistakes, but otherwise really inspired and exciting play. | ||
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Durnuu
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
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tigera6
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
On July 05 2021 20:59 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: SOS!!!! That was an absolutely sick Bo3. Some weird mistakes, but otherwise really inspired and exciting play. His blink DT especially on the closed separable cliffs are also helpful and did saved his days after all. | ||
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Durnuu
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Snorkels
United States1015 Posts
Looks like SK vaccination rates are flirting with 50% or so around now, so there is good availability. [58% first shot, 18% second atm] | ||
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Snorkels
United States1015 Posts
e: oh, that was just bad | ||
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Durnuu
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Ciaus_Dronu
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Snorkels
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Swisslink
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Durnuu
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On July 05 2021 21:22 Swisslink wrote: I don't really know what Ragnarok expected to be Zoun's army. And the Nydus was completely useless, wasn't it? He had no units there :-? He sent like 20 zerglings through there | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
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Ciaus_Dronu
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buzz_bender
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On July 05 2021 21:27 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: What is this map? O.o Oblivion, from here. | ||
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Snorkels
United States1015 Posts
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
On July 05 2021 21:22 Swisslink wrote: I don't really know what Ragnarok expected to be Zoun's army. And the Nydus was completely useless, wasn't it? He had no units there :-? if the toss is making carriers already (instead of other tech) on like 2-4 carriers hes dead there, but ragnarok kinda did it even when he knew there were a lot of stalkers already | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
Thanks. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4948 Posts
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Durnuu
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On July 05 2021 21:50 Argonauta wrote: wait Maru and Zoun played once before LOTV? weird Are you so quick to forget the death of Proleague?  | ||
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darklycid
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Ciaus_Dronu
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Snorkels
United States1015 Posts
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Durnuu
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On July 05 2021 22:03 Snorkels wrote: That guy in the crowd yelling when the Hellions were shown was great Pretty sure you heard the korean casters | ||
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Amumoman
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
I think Maru is favored for G3 here though. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8240 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On July 05 2021 22:10 geokilla wrote: Did they take something before the cast today? they're always like this LMAO best casting duo in the history of esports. Edit: Holy mother of disruptor shots | ||
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Die4Ever
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darklycid
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On the one hand that was really cool. On the other, disruptors are total BS. Choices choices. | ||
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darklycid
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geokilla
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Poopi
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SamirDuran
Philippines894 Posts
User was warned for this post. | ||
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Argonauta
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On July 05 2021 22:23 LennX wrote: Im wondering if Maru is affected by the timing difference after Dreamhack over the weekend. His usual plays are iffy =/ Of course yes, but who cares? They are koreans. | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On July 05 2021 22:23 LennX wrote: Im wondering if Maru is affected by the timing difference after Dreamhack over the weekend. His usual plays are iffy =/ Yeah sleep is important, and playing an intense 7-game series against the world champion early in the morning does not bode well for getting much of it :|||| I'm not much a Maru fan most days, but I feel quite bad for him today  He played some really great games vs Reynor last night, but then that last series vs Zoun did not look fun to play out for him. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4948 Posts
On July 05 2021 22:25 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: Yeah sleep is important, and playing an intense 7-game series against the world champion early in the morning does not bode well for getting much of it :|||| I'm not much a Maru fan most days, but I feel quite bad for him today He played some really great games vs Reynor last night, but then that last series vs Zoun did not look fun to play out for him. he didn't just have to play vs Reynor, it was several days playing at really shitty times. | ||
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Poopi
France12886 Posts
On July 05 2021 22:28 Argonauta wrote: he didn't just have to play vs Reynor, it was several days playing at really shitty times. Funny thing was caster on french stream saying something like "it's been a week he plays at weird times so he must be accustomed to it, doesn't change much" G5L not gonna come soon unless Rogue wins the next two in a row? | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
Congrats to sOs and Zoun though. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4120 Posts
On July 05 2021 22:22 SamirDuran wrote: everything in protoss is so strong lol. recall and disruptors are really good it make me quit playing yeah its so strong and overwhelming that terran and zerg dont have a single gsl title in the lotv era xD | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
I also love seeing Zoun eventually advance to ro8! | ||
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tigera6
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On July 05 2021 22:31 swarminfestor wrote: Damn, it is hard day for Maru though. The reason I did not favor a tournament a day or 12 hours before was because of the lesser time to prepare for any tournament ahead. Maru just used whatever experiences he got without much preparatory builds, ended up him getting smashed. Congrats to sOs and Zoun though. I did note that ESL and GSL was going to screw Maru up with the timing of the tournament. Having said that, Maru build wasnt totally bad, it was pretty decent. But Maru was consistently trying to move out to the map is just frustrating as hell. Both Zoun and sOs were not getting greedy with their build, it was a lot of Gateway units and later 3rd Nexus. The best thing Maru could have done is staying home to build up his tech and units. Keep forcing the army through the map was just a bad decision. Especially on that last game, knowing Zoun was making Disruptor, Maru marched the units through the choke points anyway. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7113 Posts
On July 05 2021 22:41 Xain0n wrote: Maybe I am a degenerate but I love disruptors shots. With that opinion you definitely are :D | ||
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darklycid
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In pvz they actually seem alright. | ||
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Swisslink
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[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
On July 05 2021 22:23 Swisslink wrote: Rogue will reach G5L before Maru just to kill all the dreams and all the hype. Mark my words! I can actually see that happening | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
Rogue still has two or three seasons left for him to reach G5L before the military enlistment date unless he manages to delay another two years more by using BTS and Faker law. Despite that he has won 1 WCS championship and two IEM Katowice, I am not sure whether these may count into consideration for him to apply the law. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
On July 06 2021 00:22 swarminfestor wrote: Rogue still has two or three seasons left for him to reach G5L before the military enlistment date unless he manages to delay another two years more by using BTS and Faker law. Despite that he has won 1 WCS championship and two IEM Katowice, I am not sure whether these may count into consideration for him to apply the law. hmmmm yeah maybe that's a bit short then I guess. But you never know, mustering two motivation surges is not something Rogue is incapable of, especially with that new format in which the elimination phase happens very quickly. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
As much a fan i am of DRG, im kinda cheering for Bunny to make it to the semi finals. | ||
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buzz_bender
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On July 05 2021 23:07 tigera6 wrote: I did note that ESL and GSL was going to screw Maru up with the timing of the tournament. Yes you did, and I think his plays were not the best because of that. There's a notable lack of preparation on his part, in particular studying how Zoun would have approached the game. There were times when he completely misread what Zoun would do. He just had four days of intense, high level SC2, with completely different setups, players, and maps. Of course his preparation won't be the best. On July 05 2021 23:07 tigera6 wrote: Especially on that last game, knowing Zoun was making Disruptor, Maru marched the units through the choke points anyway. I don't think so. I think Maru thought that he would go Colossus, hence he made vikings. It was a complete misread of the situation, and those two disruptor hits lost him the game. Otherwise I think he would have won that game easily. As I mentioned in a previous comment, games at this high level are decided by these minor things. For example, I think Maru losing his one BC in Romanticide in Game 7 against Reynor (because of ping/latency/lack of attention/whatever), cost him the game. If he would have kept it, he could have kept his mech momentum going and I think he would have an even greater control over the game. Oh well, can't be helped now. Maru just has to try again in the next season. (This also means that he won't be in the Season Finals in Season 2... ) | ||
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angry_maia
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In pro matches, I feel like disruptor gets a little boring to watch since so many fights are essentially decided by whether it lands or not. | ||
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tigera6
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On July 06 2021 00:46 buzz_bender wrote: Yes you did, and I think his plays were not the best because of that. There's a notable lack of preparation on his part, in particular studying how Zoun would have approached the game. There were times when he completely misread what Zoun would do. He just had four days of intense, high level SC2, with completely different setups, players, and maps. Of course his preparation won't be the best. I don't think so. I think Maru thought that he would go Colossus, hence he made vikings. It was a complete misread of the situation, and those two disruptor hits lost him the game. Otherwise I think he would have won that game easily. As I mentioned in a previous comment, games at this high level are decided by these minor things. For example, I think Maru losing his one BC in Romanticide in Game 7 against Reynor (because of ping/latency/lack of attention/whatever), cost him the game. If he would have kept it, he could have kept his mech momentum going and I think he would have an even greater control over the game. Oh well, can't be helped now. Maru just has to try again in the next season. (This also means that he won't be in the Season Finals in Season 2... )Dude, Maru literally scanned the base of Zoun and saw a Disruptor coming out of the Robotics with another one in the making. It was very careless of him, and there should be no excuse other than mental fatigue. And yes, what really piss me off more is Maru gonna miss the next DH Season as well. Right where we seeing Maru picking up his TvZ game, its the darn TvP that knock him out again. | ||
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JJH777
United States4408 Posts
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
After the lack of Protoss this weekend, this group got me really excited for the future. | ||
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Heartland
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Blastmally
Italy3 Posts
His last win in a tournament was King of Battles 2020-10-11 were he fought so so in the Group Stage (2nd place) and went to win beating only terrans in the playoffs. His last big tournament win was AfreecaTV GSL ST1 2020-03-28 with a good run against the usual "old" Korean players (half of them are at military service). Then you've got to go GSL S1 Spring 2019 to see another victory in a big tournament. Maru in 2021 has played 48 matches: Serral (who doesn't play so much outside big tournaments) has played 65 matches in 2021, Reynor 143 matches !!! With all the respect for Maru, he is still a great player and being able to reach a couple of big finals in the last months is very good, but he lacks a lot of practice in tournaments and at the moment his winning chances are overvalued. And here you can insert fanboys lag, poorly sleep, bad wrist and all the usual whining stuff :D | ||
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tigera6
3399 Posts
On July 06 2021 20:21 Blastmally wrote: The Maru Fanboys Train... His last win in a tournament was King of Battles 2020-10-11 were he fought so so in the Group Stage (2nd place) and went to win beating only terrans in the playoffs. His last big tournament win was AfreecaTV GSL ST1 2020-03-28 with a good run against the usual "old" Korean players (half of them are at military service). Then you've got to go GSL S1 Spring 2019 to see another victory in a big tournament. Maru in 2021 has played 48 matches: Serral (who doesn't play so much outside big tournaments) has played 65 matches in 2021, Reynor 143 matches !!! With all the respect for Maru, he is still a great player and being able to reach a couple of big finals in the last months is very good, but he lacks a lot of practice in tournaments and at the moment his winning chances are overvalued. And here you can insert fanboys lag, poorly sleep, bad wrist and all the usual whining stuff :D I am a Maru fan, but have always been critical of his losses when they are flawed. But you are just plain WRONG in many of the points you made, or you just want to rub the salt to the wound of Terran "fanboy". Terran has been unable to win many international events for the last 3 years since Inno victory in WESG. Other than TY dominant run in 2020 in GSL and Clem in DH EU, everything else has been quiet. Maru was not winning as much as he was in 2018, but he was still among one of the top Terran in the world in ANY tournament. He won the ST1 in 2020, the only Terran to EVER won it, against a top form Dark who was coming from his Blizzcon victory in 2019 was not a lucky run. In 2021, Maru has been the most successful Terran in term of tournament run, and prize money earned. He was VERY CONSISTENT in TvT and TvP much more than everyone else in the pro. Despite his struggle in TvZ, Maru still made it very deep in any tournament that he played in. Lastly, the amount of the matches played is not as important as the TIMING of those matches. If you think playing at late hour for 4 days straight, and then switch to an afternoon event, especially after the gruesome 7-games Final series is NOT taxing to the body and the mind of the player, you may try to go pro and try it yourself. Maybe you havent heard it, but mental fatigue is A THING. Remember before this GSL losses, Maru was losing a SINGLE series in TvP and TvT in 2021, that includes IEM, ST2, GSL1, DH Global and NeXT which are plenty of matches to show his dominance over the matchup. I get that Maru was still going to play anway, he and his fan should make no excuse, that still doesnt mean we can deny that ESL and GSL screw him up this time with the schedule. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6934 Posts
On July 06 2021 00:55 angry_maia wrote: Question: would terran players trade not using ghosts for the protoss player not being able to use disruptors? Basically, is it preferable to deal with storm (without emp) as opposed to disruptor? In pro matches, I feel like disruptor gets a little boring to watch since so many fights are essentially decided by whether it lands or not. Would make mech or hybrid builds better in TvP since Mech don't care much about storm | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25534 Posts
Was a great group for entertainment. For me it was tough for Maru in that sOs and Zoun had completely different game plans against him, that said if he didn’t eat that Disruptor hit he probably still gets out. | ||
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lostusername123
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Clem gets a lot of points due to his wins on Serral&Reynor, but doesnt find as much success against KR Protoss it seems. He just had a bad performance, I think you guys throw players under the bus way too fucking fast. Maru is IMO the top Terran and a contender on any tournament. | ||
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Lokol18
51 Posts
On July 06 2021 20:21 Blastmally wrote: The Maru Fanboys Train... His last win in a tournament was King of Battles 2020-10-11 were he fought so so in the Group Stage (2nd place) and went to win beating only terrans in the playoffs. His last big tournament win was AfreecaTV GSL ST1 2020-03-28 with a good run against the usual "old" Korean players (half of them are at military service). Then you've got to go GSL S1 Spring 2019 to see another victory in a big tournament. Maru in 2021 has played 48 matches: Serral (who doesn't play so much outside big tournaments) has played 65 matches in 2021, Reynor 143 matches !!! With all the respect for Maru, he is still a great player and being able to reach a couple of big finals in the last months is very good, but he lacks a lot of practice in tournaments and at the moment his winning chances are overvalued. And here you can insert fanboys lag, poorly sleep, bad wrist and all the usual whining stuff :D Maru is still the best performing terran this year by a good margin. Top 4 IEM, top 2 gsl, top 3 NeXT, and top 2 dh summer finals. The only terran even close to him in results is clem, who won dh europe, but then showed how vulnerable he is in non tvz matchups (top 6 iem, top 6 tsl, top 8 NeXT, didn't make it out of groups in dh summer finals). Maru could bomb out of every tournament from here on out til the next IEM and he still would likely be the top terran performer | ||
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Poopi
France12886 Posts
On July 07 2021 00:04 WombaT wrote: It’s annoying. I think the scheduling here wasn’t ideal but it’s literally every tournament Maru loses there’s some kind of excuse. Was a great group for entertainment. For me it was tough for Maru in that sOs and Zoun had completely different game plans against him, that said if he didn’t eat that Disruptor hit he probably still gets out. Well he is the best Terran by far now that TY is gone, so if he loses everybody knows there is no hope of a Terran winner. Therefore, people probably prefer having « excuses » for his losses than thinking about balance and the likes. But maybe Bunny and SpeCial will prove us wrong and win the whole thing. | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
On July 07 2021 00:43 Poopi wrote: Well he is the best Terran by far now that TY is gone, so if he loses everybody knows there is no hope of a Terran winner. Therefore, people probably prefer having « excuses » for his losses than thinking about balance and the likes. But maybe Bunny and SpeCial will prove us wrong and win the whole thing. It is a bit shame that 4 horsemen of Terran now reduced to only Maru as the beholder of the title. | ||
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Poopi
France12886 Posts
On July 07 2021 01:44 [Phantom] wrote: Maru was in a loss loss situation. He can't miss dreamhack due to the prize pool, but he can't miss GSl either. In dream back he had ping and terrible hours, and in gsl he was exhausted. What is that about him missing season2? I'm guessing to qualify to DH you need to get to the round of 8 gsl? I think only top 4 from GSL have a direct seed to DH:Finals, and the 4 players from 5-8 battle for 2 spots iirc? So yeah the finalist of DH:EU Finals is not qualified for the next one only a day later | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25534 Posts
On July 07 2021 00:43 Poopi wrote: Well he is the best Terran by far now that TY is gone, so if he loses everybody knows there is no hope of a Terran winner. Therefore, people probably prefer having « excuses » for his losses than thinking about balance and the likes. But maybe Bunny and SpeCial will prove us wrong and win the whole thing. Bunny looks to have exited the Bunny zone, interested to see if he can keep up his recent breakthroughs. He is clearly the Terran hope now is Maru but the excuses for him any time he loses have long been a thing even back when Inno, TY and others were legitimate championship contenders | ||
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tigera6
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On July 07 2021 03:06 WombaT wrote: Bunny looks to have exited the Bunny zone, interested to see if he can keep up his recent breakthroughs. He is clearly the Terran hope now is Maru but the excuses for him any time he loses have long been a thing even back when Inno, TY and others were legitimate championship contenders I dont remember people were giving Maru excuse, at least not from me, when he dropped out of the Ro16 last year in S2, and also Ro32 in S2 2019. Now thinking about it, Maru always hit the GSL "slump" in S2 for the last 3 years, lol. | ||
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Obamarauder
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tigera6
3399 Posts
On July 08 2021 00:31 Obamarauder wrote: Anyone got a quick rundown on what sos did Quick Probe into Maru main to scout and mess around. DT and shitload of Chargelot. | ||
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