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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
April 04 2021 15:47 GMT
#61
This result could shake things up a bit going down the road, good stuff.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
lepricon1992
Profile Joined July 2019
105 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-04 16:15:00
April 04 2021 15:52 GMT
#62
Finally Zest's absence costs them the points
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 04 2021 16:07 GMT
#63
Awesome performance by Team Liquid, Kela really had the chance of taking DPG down with that push but we would have been denied the ace match!
Sending Dark on Oxide against Clem was a very bad idea, I was expecting Cure.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
April 04 2021 16:18 GMT
#64
On April 05 2021 01:07 Xain0n wrote:
Awesome performance by Team Liquid, Kela really had the chance of taking DPG down with that push but we would have been denied the ace match!
Sending Dark on Oxide against Clem was a very bad idea, I was expecting Cure.

Since Cure should have lost Oxide to Kelazhur he probably didn't like his odds against Clem. I think Dark could have been a fine choice if he played a better game than he did (he made some really weird decisions). Best choice probably would have been Zest but seems like Zest just wasn't available today.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 04 2021 16:34 GMT
#65
On April 05 2021 01:18 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2021 01:07 Xain0n wrote:
Awesome performance by Team Liquid, Kela really had the chance of taking DPG down with that push but we would have been denied the ace match!
Sending Dark on Oxide against Clem was a very bad idea, I was expecting Cure.

Since Cure should have lost Oxide to Kelazhur he probably didn't like his odds against Clem. I think Dark could have been a fine choice if he played a better game than he did (he made some really weird decisions). Best choice probably would have been Zest but seems like Zest just wasn't available today.


I am quite sure Dark was confident but I wasn't personally convinced, not the right map imho.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 04 2021 16:35 GMT
#66
On April 05 2021 01:18 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2021 01:07 Xain0n wrote:
Awesome performance by Team Liquid, Kela really had the chance of taking DPG down with that push but we would have been denied the ace match!
Sending Dark on Oxide against Clem was a very bad idea, I was expecting Cure.

Since Cure should have lost Oxide to Kelazhur he probably didn't like his odds against Clem. I think Dark could have been a fine choice if he played a better game than he did (he made some really weird decisions). Best choice probably would have been Zest but seems like Zest just wasn't available today.


You can't send someone who didn't play as Ace. In the end it's Dark fault he should have beaten Harstem.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-04 16:50:21
April 04 2021 16:47 GMT
#67
On April 05 2021 01:35 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2021 01:18 Elentos wrote:
On April 05 2021 01:07 Xain0n wrote:
Awesome performance by Team Liquid, Kela really had the chance of taking DPG down with that push but we would have been denied the ace match!
Sending Dark on Oxide against Clem was a very bad idea, I was expecting Cure.

Since Cure should have lost Oxide to Kelazhur he probably didn't like his odds against Clem. I think Dark could have been a fine choice if he played a better game than he did (he made some really weird decisions). Best choice probably would have been Zest but seems like Zest just wasn't available today.


You can't send someone who didn't play as Ace. In the end it's Dark fault he should have beaten Harstem.

You can field Players for Ace that didn t Play the regular matches.
it happened in previous CTC matches as well.

E.: example
Week 5, Team GP vs Jin Air Green Wings
(Wiki)Gold Series Team Championship/2020/Fall/Regular Season
MaxPax
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
April 04 2021 16:47 GMT
#68
On April 05 2021 01:35 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2021 01:18 Elentos wrote:
On April 05 2021 01:07 Xain0n wrote:
Awesome performance by Team Liquid, Kela really had the chance of taking DPG down with that push but we would have been denied the ace match!
Sending Dark on Oxide against Clem was a very bad idea, I was expecting Cure.

Since Cure should have lost Oxide to Kelazhur he probably didn't like his odds against Clem. I think Dark could have been a fine choice if he played a better game than he did (he made some really weird decisions). Best choice probably would have been Zest but seems like Zest just wasn't available today.


You can't send someone who didn't play as Ace. In the end it's Dark fault he should have beaten Harstem.

Are you sure? That's never been the rule in previous seasons.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
lepricon1992
Profile Joined July 2019
105 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-04 17:02:22
April 04 2021 16:57 GMT
#69
On April 05 2021 01:47 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2021 01:35 Nakajin wrote:
On April 05 2021 01:18 Elentos wrote:
On April 05 2021 01:07 Xain0n wrote:
Awesome performance by Team Liquid, Kela really had the chance of taking DPG down with that push but we would have been denied the ace match!
Sending Dark on Oxide against Clem was a very bad idea, I was expecting Cure.

Since Cure should have lost Oxide to Kelazhur he probably didn't like his odds against Clem. I think Dark could have been a fine choice if he played a better game than he did (he made some really weird decisions). Best choice probably would have been Zest but seems like Zest just wasn't available today.


You can't send someone who didn't play as Ace. In the end it's Dark fault he should have beaten Harstem.

Are you sure? That's never been the rule in previous seasons.


He's right, that is allowed.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
April 04 2021 17:00 GMT
#70
On April 05 2021 01:57 lepricon1992 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2021 01:47 Elentos wrote:
On April 05 2021 01:35 Nakajin wrote:
On April 05 2021 01:18 Elentos wrote:
On April 05 2021 01:07 Xain0n wrote:
Awesome performance by Team Liquid, Kela really had the chance of taking DPG down with that push but we would have been denied the ace match!
Sending Dark on Oxide against Clem was a very bad idea, I was expecting Cure.

Since Cure should have lost Oxide to Kelazhur he probably didn't like his odds against Clem. I think Dark could have been a fine choice if he played a better game than he did (he made some really weird decisions). Best choice probably would have been Zest but seems like Zest just wasn't available today.


You can't send someone who didn't play as Ace. In the end it's Dark fault he should have beaten Harstem.

Are you sure? That's never been the rule in previous seasons.


He's right, that is allowed. The only problem is that they were too confident to give zest a holiday for someone's funeral.

In my mind that's more about decency than confidence.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
lepricon1992
Profile Joined July 2019
105 Posts
April 04 2021 17:04 GMT
#71
On April 05 2021 02:00 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2021 01:57 lepricon1992 wrote:
On April 05 2021 01:47 Elentos wrote:
On April 05 2021 01:35 Nakajin wrote:
On April 05 2021 01:18 Elentos wrote:
On April 05 2021 01:07 Xain0n wrote:
Awesome performance by Team Liquid, Kela really had the chance of taking DPG down with that push but we would have been denied the ace match!
Sending Dark on Oxide against Clem was a very bad idea, I was expecting Cure.

Since Cure should have lost Oxide to Kelazhur he probably didn't like his odds against Clem. I think Dark could have been a fine choice if he played a better game than he did (he made some really weird decisions). Best choice probably would have been Zest but seems like Zest just wasn't available today.


You can't send someone who didn't play as Ace. In the end it's Dark fault he should have beaten Harstem.

Are you sure? That's never been the rule in previous seasons.


He's right, that is allowed. The only problem is that they were too confident to give zest a holiday for someone's funeral.

In my mind that's more about decency than confidence.

Yeah you're right.My mistake for using a word like 'problem', it's just some kind of 'unlucky'.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 04 2021 17:09 GMT
#72
On April 05 2021 01:57 lepricon1992 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2021 01:47 Elentos wrote:
On April 05 2021 01:35 Nakajin wrote:
On April 05 2021 01:18 Elentos wrote:
On April 05 2021 01:07 Xain0n wrote:
Awesome performance by Team Liquid, Kela really had the chance of taking DPG down with that push but we would have been denied the ace match!
Sending Dark on Oxide against Clem was a very bad idea, I was expecting Cure.

Since Cure should have lost Oxide to Kelazhur he probably didn't like his odds against Clem. I think Dark could have been a fine choice if he played a better game than he did (he made some really weird decisions). Best choice probably would have been Zest but seems like Zest just wasn't available today.


You can't send someone who didn't play as Ace. In the end it's Dark fault he should have beaten Harstem.

Are you sure? That's never been the rule in previous seasons.


He's right, that is allowed.


God damit, that's what I get for trusting Twitch chat
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States282 Posts
April 04 2021 20:05 GMT
#73
https://www.scboy.com/?thread-223892.htm
Of course Zest is better against Clem. But according to EnChant (DPG's captain), they thought Liquid may field Mana and hastem, so they give Zest a vacation because his unstable PvP performance. Then Zest went to one of his friend's funeral.
keaneu
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)65 Posts
April 04 2021 22:16 GMT
#74
More like tomb sweeping at night.
Director, TitanEX1 Co., Ltd.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17729 Posts
April 05 2021 01:31 GMT
#75
oh hey, this is finally on https://www.sc2links.com/tournament/?match=690 nice
"Expert" mods4ever.com
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
April 05 2021 03:32 GMT
#76
Its all down to matchup, and Zest is the best matchup against Clem, so keeping him around for a potential Ace match would be great. Also, had the fight order changed to Dark vs Clem and Rogue vs Harstem, it probably wouldnt come down to an Ace match anyway. There is a good chance Dark can get a game from Clem, and I dont see Harstem can fight Rogue the way he did against Dark.
KLKL
Profile Joined March 2021
8 Posts
April 05 2021 15:39 GMT
#77
IIRC, odds were 1.10 for DPG. Clem upset the bookmakers, almost singlehandedly. I'm interested to see how this will be reflected when odds for the next Liquid game are up. I'm not sure how they weight results history against how much people are actually betting, but they made a killing off of that match for sure.

If the matches are being played on the China server, does anyone know where it is actually located? For an EU vs KR game played on the CN server, what would the ping difference look like?
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
April 05 2021 15:51 GMT
#78
On April 06 2021 00:39 KLKL wrote:
IIRC, odds were 1.10 for DPG. Clem upset the bookmakers, almost singlehandedly. I'm interested to see how this will be reflected when odds for the next Liquid game are up. I'm not sure how they weight results history against how much people are actually betting, but they made a killing off of that match for sure.

If the matches are being played on the China server, does anyone know where it is actually located? For an EU vs KR game played on the CN server, what would the ping difference look like?

They are 100% not playing on Chinese server, as you cant even enter that server from outside china.
So they probably play on NA west or NA central, just like ESL.

As they organisers explicitly opened up the cup to international teams with droping the chinese player rule anything else wouldn t make sense anyways
MaxPax
KLKL
Profile Joined March 2021
8 Posts
April 05 2021 16:14 GMT
#79
On April 06 2021 00:51 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2021 00:39 KLKL wrote:
IIRC, odds were 1.10 for DPG. Clem upset the bookmakers, almost singlehandedly. I'm interested to see how this will be reflected when odds for the next Liquid game are up. I'm not sure how they weight results history against how much people are actually betting, but they made a killing off of that match for sure.

If the matches are being played on the China server, does anyone know where it is actually located? For an EU vs KR game played on the CN server, what would the ping difference look like?

They are 100% not playing on Chinese server, as you cant even enter that server from outside china.
So they probably play on NA west or NA central, just like ESL.

As they organisers explicitly opened up the cup to international teams with droping the chinese player rule anything else wouldn t make sense anyways


If this is the case, why is the number 163 being censored through the Chinese observer client?
CreightonOlsen
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
United States366 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-05 18:00:28
April 05 2021 18:00 GMT
#80
On April 06 2021 01:14 KLKL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2021 00:51 dbRic1203 wrote:
On April 06 2021 00:39 KLKL wrote:
IIRC, odds were 1.10 for DPG. Clem upset the bookmakers, almost singlehandedly. I'm interested to see how this will be reflected when odds for the next Liquid game are up. I'm not sure how they weight results history against how much people are actually betting, but they made a killing off of that match for sure.

If the matches are being played on the China server, does anyone know where it is actually located? For an EU vs KR game played on the CN server, what would the ping difference look like?

They are 100% not playing on Chinese server, as you cant even enter that server from outside china.
So they probably play on NA west or NA central, just like ESL.

As they organisers explicitly opened up the cup to international teams with droping the chinese player rule anything else wouldn t make sense anyways


If this is the case, why is the number 163 being censored through the Chinese observer client?


1. Games are being played using "best server" rules, e.g. NA Central - NA West for a Bo2 with a EU and an KR player.

2. The numbers 163 and 173 are censored due to Netease's former branding in china as 163.com. "163" became synonymous with internet access, and the Chinese client censort it to prevent imposters pretending to be representatives of Netease. Much the same way you can't name yourself "BlizzSupport" or similar in-game.
https://www.twitch.tv/CreightonOlsen
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