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Zergiica
Profile Joined October 2015
Croatia128 Posts
February 28 2021 16:01 GMT
#501
On March 01 2021 00:58 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 00:57 Zergiica wrote:
ok, how was it possible for zerg to win this game? i really want to know. terran did everything, was clearly better and what happened?

awful. maybe it is me not watching games for a while to see in what condition this game is.

Fungal + ultra sealed the deal


in mid game Z lost three bases, fungals and everything else came after it. it is awful to see it, pulling 250 mutas and ultras without bases. terran loses one base and is crippled.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
February 28 2021 16:01 GMT
#502
On March 01 2021 01:00 MarianoSC2 wrote:
So frustrating that some people can be this lucky. Reynor got totally destroyed and outclassed in the first 2 games and then Maru and lady luck decided to gift him the series for some reason:

- Lucky build orders
- Marus play and macro slowing down due to shoulder pain
- Open walls
- Maru even had the last game won despite his macro being way slower than previos games. All he had to do was attack Reynor before he established his bases and built infestors but he just waited there to die

Oh well, its up to you Zest to stop this nonsense now. It would be a huge disappointment and very underserving if someone won the world championship solely based off luck.


If Dark won game 5 against Reynor after Reynor threw it would have been "luck" for Dark but you wouldn't have called it that. Chill out.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
February 28 2021 16:01 GMT
#503
C'mon reynor tweet about never making lurkers ever again
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
February 28 2021 16:02 GMT
#504
Reynor does such great interviews LOL
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2633 Posts
February 28 2021 16:02 GMT
#505
I don't wanna watch anymore. :/
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26737 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-28 16:02:41
February 28 2021 16:02 GMT
#506
On March 01 2021 00:59 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 00:57 Swisslink wrote:
On March 01 2021 00:55 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Wow, that game was something else. I had no idea who was going to win.


Agreed. I do think however that the casters made that look far worse for Reynor than it actually was. Even when he had lost all his bases, he was able to counterpunch immediately and crushed Maru's economy as well. I never really felt as if Reynor was dead there.


I play neither Zerg nor Terran, so I have to take your word for it, but low economy usually favours Terran, and Zerg usually needs to be ahead in bases just to keep it even in ZvT, so on general principles Reynor looked super dead to me.

It wasn’t your typical low eco game though, Reynor had plenty of drones it was a matter of getting hatches back up and keeping Maru from killing him.

Maru probably wins if he doesn’t kill one of the hatches vs killing the drones instead, Reynor was pretty good at pulling them away mind
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3836 Posts
February 28 2021 16:02 GMT
#507
Still hoping parting continues his run but don't think he has a shot vs reynor in bo7
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
February 28 2021 16:02 GMT
#508
On March 01 2021 00:57 Zergiica wrote:
ok, how was it possible for zerg to win this game? i really want to know. terran did everything, was clearly better and what happened?

awful. maybe it is me not watching games for a while to see in what condition this game is.

awful, awful. gg maru, you did beat a player but not a game.

gratz to reynor for two clean wins.


I would argue the game was kinda even over the biggest part of the game. First Reynor got a lead, then Maru killed all the hatcheries everywhere and brought it back, even ahead. Reynor immediately counterpushed and did an insane amount of damage as well. And then Maru was completely caught offguard with the Infestors. The first fungals decided the game, imo. That was an insane amount of dmg in a situation Maru was not really allowed to take that much dmg.
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
536 Posts
February 28 2021 16:03 GMT
#509
On March 01 2021 01:00 MarianoSC2 wrote:
So frustrating that some people can be this lucky. Reynor got totally destroyed and outclassed in the first 2 games and then Maru and lady luck decided to gift him the series for some reason:

- Lucky build orders
- Marus play and macro slowing down due to shoulder pain
- Open walls
- Maru even had the last game won despite his macro being way slower than previos games. All he had to do was attack Reynor before he established his bases and built infestors but he just waited there to die

Oh well, its up to you Zest to stop this nonsense now. It would be a huge disappointment and very underserving if someone won the world championship solely based off luck.

Basically the other guy was slightly better this time. There is always luck involved, but win is a win. It is not like when Maru wins, his opponents make zero mistakes and it is all greatness from Maru.
Sorusaba
Profile Joined October 2017
298 Posts
February 28 2021 16:03 GMT
#510
On March 01 2021 01:00 MarianoSC2 wrote:
So frustrating that some people can be this lucky. Reynor got totally destroyed and outclassed in the first 2 games and then Maru and lady luck decided to gift him the series for some reason:

- Lucky build orders
- Marus play and macro slowing down due to shoulder pain
- Open walls
- Maru even had the last game won despite his macro being way slower than previos games. All he had to do was attack Reynor before he established his bases and built infestors but he just waited there to die

Oh well, its up to you Zest to stop this nonsense now. It would be a huge disappointment and very underserving if someone won the world championship solely based off luck.


apparently, when foreigner wins

better strategy and preparation = luck
koreans getting outplayed macro-wise = luck
koreans making obvious mistakes = luck
koreans getting outplayed tactically = luck
koreans getting outplayed with decision-making = luck

is it even possible to win a straight-up game of sc2 at this level of makebelief and delusion?
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 28 2021 16:03 GMT
#511
On March 01 2021 01:00 MarianoSC2 wrote:
So frustrating that some people can be this lucky. Reynor got totally destroyed and outclassed in the first 2 games and then Maru and lady luck decided to gift him the series for some reason:

- Lucky build orders
- Marus play and macro slowing down due to shoulder pain
- Open walls
- Maru even had the last game won despite his macro being way slower than previos games. All he had to do was attack Reynor before he established his bases and built infestors but he just waited there to die

Oh well, its up to you Zest to stop this nonsense now. It would be a huge disappointment and very underserving if someone won the world championship solely based off luck.


This guy really, really hates bias.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 28 2021 16:03 GMT
#512
On March 01 2021 01:01 Zergiica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 00:58 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 00:57 Zergiica wrote:
ok, how was it possible for zerg to win this game? i really want to know. terran did everything, was clearly better and what happened?

awful. maybe it is me not watching games for a while to see in what condition this game is.

Fungal + ultra sealed the deal


in mid game Z lost three bases, fungals and everything else came after it. it is awful to see it, pulling 250 mutas and ultras without bases. terran loses one base and is crippled.


Again, that's because of the map. Terran can't ever expand beyond the bases Maru took unless Zerg massively fucks up.

That map favored Reynor more than any other map in the pool. Maru was so fucking reckless to not play straight up on Lightshade that map would have been way better for him.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
CuddleBunny
Profile Joined August 2019
4 Posts
February 28 2021 16:03 GMT
#513
On March 01 2021 01:00 MarianoSC2 wrote:
So frustrating that some people can be this lucky. Reynor got totally destroyed and outclassed in the first 2 games and then Maru and lady luck decided to gift him the series for some reason:

- Lucky build orders
- Marus play and macro slowing down due to shoulder pain
- Open walls
- Maru even had the last game won despite his macro being way slower than previos games. All he had to do was attack Reynor before he established his bases and built infestors but he just waited there to die

Oh well, its up to you Zest to stop this nonsense now. It would be a huge disappointment and very underserving if someone won the world championship solely based off luck.



COPE MORE FANBOY LMMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
February 28 2021 16:03 GMT
#514
Can't wait for goat talk about reynor once he wins this tournament (actually the biggest reason i wouldn't wanna see him win).
Dragonslayer26
Profile Joined February 2021
9 Posts
February 28 2021 16:03 GMT
#515
On March 01 2021 01:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 01:01 Dragonslayer26 wrote:
Wow! Just woke up and missed Reynor vs Maru. Glad to see that he won 3-2, but are the games worth watching?

hell yeah. Just skip g4.


Any reason why?
StarcraftPeffo
Profile Joined May 2019
Italy66 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-28 16:05:31
February 28 2021 16:03 GMT
#516
On March 01 2021 00:55 dysenterymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 00:54 Nakajin wrote:
God I might actually leave Starcraft for a couple of years, because I won't be able to bear hearing about that one

Maru fans are truly the most oppressed people.



I really wanna to thank all of them anyway for making this so much better.

On March 01 2021 01:00 MarianoSC2 wrote:
So frustrating that some people can be this lucky. Reynor got totally destroyed and outclassed in the first 2 games and then Maru and lady luck decided to gift him the series for some reason:

- Lucky build orders
- Marus play and macro slowing down due to shoulder pain
- Open walls
- Maru even had the last game won despite his macro being way slower than previos games. All he had to do was attack Reynor before he established his bases and built infestors but he just waited there to die

Oh well, its up to you Zest to stop this nonsense now. It would be a huge disappointment and very underserving if someone won the world championship solely based off luck.



You, in particular, are the goat. Thank you so much.
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
February 28 2021 16:03 GMT
#517
On March 01 2021 01:02 Brutaxilos wrote:
I don't wanna watch anymore. :/

hey, you don't have to!
I like Dark
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 28 2021 16:03 GMT
#518
On March 01 2021 01:02 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 00:59 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 01 2021 00:57 Swisslink wrote:
On March 01 2021 00:55 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Wow, that game was something else. I had no idea who was going to win.


Agreed. I do think however that the casters made that look far worse for Reynor than it actually was. Even when he had lost all his bases, he was able to counterpunch immediately and crushed Maru's economy as well. I never really felt as if Reynor was dead there.


I play neither Zerg nor Terran, so I have to take your word for it, but low economy usually favours Terran, and Zerg usually needs to be ahead in bases just to keep it even in ZvT, so on general principles Reynor looked super dead to me.

It wasn’t your typical low eco game though, Reynor had plenty of drones it was a matter of getting hatches back up and keeping Maru from killing him.

Maru probably wins if he doesn’t kill one of the hatches vs killing the drones instead, Reynor was pretty good at pulling them away mind

I kinda agree but I don't remember a clear moment when he could have done that, Reynor was very quick on the pulls and bringing back some army everytime
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
February 28 2021 16:04 GMT
#519
Wow can't believe Reynor has the arrogance to smile after basicly destroying the SC2 scene in this series.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
February 28 2021 16:04 GMT
#520
"first time I made broodlords since blizzcon" haha
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