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On February 28 2021 04:10 Bagration wrote: Damn, wanted Clem to pull that one out
tbh I think Clem played a lot less stubbornly than Zest there, with a better army comp and a desire to actually expand... if Clem hadn't been so badly outpositioned and outmicroed by Zest in those final attacks, I think Clem would have won.
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On February 28 2021 04:10 Vindicare605 wrote: That was the dumbest game I have seen in a very long time. Zest had absolutely no business winning that.
No idea if joking...
Anybody who is understanding the game knows it was all the time VERY close.
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I always like seeing Zest do good, and I'd want him to win but I would feel bad for the Frenchies
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Wow clem, almost pulled it through. Zest had like 60 zealots at one point?!
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On February 28 2021 04:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 04:11 JoeCool wrote:On February 28 2021 04:10 Noocta wrote:On February 28 2021 04:09 JoeCool wrote:On February 28 2021 04:07 Andi_Goldberger wrote: HOW DOES ZEST WIN THAT ???? He was in control (almost) the whole game. He did his best to not be. Maybe his control wasn't optimal but contrary to what the casters were saying I feel like Clem was always one step behind. don't agree, the fight on the right with the prism / 3 colossi turned the game around but Clem was winning at that point
Basically this. If it wasn't for the very cool micro of the Colossi, he was done. He had the money, he was floating 600 minerals very often, no excuse to not build a 6th and probes again.
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On February 28 2021 04:12 Fanatic-Templar wrote: MORE OF THIS PLEASE. agree. Another low eco fist / knife fight. Loved it even if I'd have loved to see the other outcome...
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MVP is probably that obs in front of clem's 3rd, but I can't tell which player it benefitted more, full vision for zest but somehow it made him think it was ok to headbutt his army in this choke again and again.
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On February 28 2021 04:09 [PkF] Wire wrote: wonderful game, scrappy one ofc but wonderful
definitely some parts where i couldn't tell if zest was making a mistake or displaying subtle genius, such as having his zealots taking out scvs while bio tore up his stalkers.
i guess it worked? maybe that was optimal since the game was so low-econ.
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On February 28 2021 04:11 Calliope wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 04:10 Azzur wrote: WTF, I'm so underwhelmed with the Terrans (with the exception of Maru) today. That game was Clem's to win. All he had to do was engage before that 3 collossus The EMPs were on point but I feel like a slightly better viking control would've made a huge difference, taking out that warp prism.
The one thing I will definitely give Zest credit for is bringing that second Prism.
like 3-4 times Zest trades well enough with Clem that a Warp In would seal the deal and he can't because he loses his Warp Prism. Surprise surprise he brings a second one and solves that problem. Been saying for years that Protoss players rely too much on having one Prism at a time, Zest just showed what can go right for you if you bring an extra one.
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On February 28 2021 04:12 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 04:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:On February 28 2021 04:11 JoeCool wrote:On February 28 2021 04:10 Noocta wrote:On February 28 2021 04:09 JoeCool wrote:On February 28 2021 04:07 Andi_Goldberger wrote: HOW DOES ZEST WIN THAT ???? He was in control (almost) the whole game. He did his best to not be. Maybe his control wasn't optimal but contrary to what the casters were saying I feel like Clem was always one step behind. don't agree, the fight on the right with the prism / 3 colossi turned the game around but Clem was winning at that point Basically this. If it wasn't for the very cool micro of the Colossi, he was done. He had the money, he was floating 600 minerals very often, no excuse to not build a 6th and probes again. He just decided to tactically be all-in for 15 minutes. He got this idea from his Terran practice partners.
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On February 28 2021 04:10 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 04:08 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On February 28 2021 04:07 Charoisaur wrote:On February 28 2021 04:05 Noocta wrote: This game is a good contender to have on the Harmstem " Guess the league " show. I mean, Zests army control is insane Not when he's attacking Command Centers though  . the double prism storm flank was maybe the sickest play I've seen from a Protoss player though
True!
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I feel that Clem had to mule too much and didn't have enough energy for scans which let observers get away and greatly made mines less effective.
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On February 28 2021 04:13 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 04:11 Calliope wrote:On February 28 2021 04:10 Azzur wrote: WTF, I'm so underwhelmed with the Terrans (with the exception of Maru) today. That game was Clem's to win. All he had to do was engage before that 3 collossus The EMPs were on point but I feel like a slightly better viking control would've made a huge difference, taking out that warp prism. The one thing I will definitely give Zest credit for is bringing that second Prism. For the last 11 years viewers have been screaming "just bring a second prism" at protoss players when they lose the first one
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Let's get ready for a shit 4th game now
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The fuck is Zest doing lmao? I can only surmise it’s high level mindgames, if he wins playing like that it should crush Clem’s spirit
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On February 28 2021 04:14 Aeromi wrote:Let's get ready for a shit 4th game now I have one fear, losing that game could have broken Clem's morale. But if he doesn't tilt I still favor him.
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On February 28 2021 04:10 Azzur wrote: WTF, I'm so underwhelmed with the Terrans (with the exception of Maru) today. That game was Clem's to win. All he had to do was engage before that 3 collossus
Yea.. with maphack it would be good.
How is clem suppose to know when zest is tranisioning?
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On February 28 2021 04:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 04:11 JoeCool wrote:On February 28 2021 04:10 Noocta wrote:On February 28 2021 04:09 JoeCool wrote:On February 28 2021 04:07 Andi_Goldberger wrote: HOW DOES ZEST WIN THAT ???? He was in control (almost) the whole game. He did his best to not be. Maybe his control wasn't optimal but contrary to what the casters were saying I feel like Clem was always one step behind. don't agree, the fight on the right with the prism / 3 colossi turned the game around but Clem was winning at that point
I don't think so. Clem kept losing all his tech units. He wasn't building up any strength from his holds.
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Zest chose a 4 base allin, and iam not even kidding. he decided to only go for army
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