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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45291 Posts
February 27 2021 19:12 GMT
#1141
On February 28 2021 04:10 Bagration wrote:
Damn, wanted Clem to pull that one out


tbh I think Clem played a lot less stubbornly than Zest there, with a better army comp and a desire to actually expand... if Clem hadn't been so badly outpositioned and outmicroed by Zest in those final attacks, I think Clem would have won.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany329 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-27 19:12:44
February 27 2021 19:12 GMT
#1142
On February 28 2021 04:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
That was the dumbest game I have seen in a very long time. Zest had absolutely no business winning that.



No idea if joking...

Anybody who is understanding the game knows it was all the time VERY close.
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
February 27 2021 19:12 GMT
#1143
I always like seeing Zest do good, and I'd want him to win but I would feel bad for the Frenchies
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 27 2021 19:12 GMT
#1144
MORE OF THIS PLEASE.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
mpmaley86
Profile Joined May 2019
115 Posts
February 27 2021 19:12 GMT
#1145
Wow clem, almost pulled it through. Zest had like 60 zealots at one point?!
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 27 2021 19:12 GMT
#1146
On February 28 2021 04:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 04:11 JoeCool wrote:
On February 28 2021 04:10 Noocta wrote:
On February 28 2021 04:09 JoeCool wrote:
On February 28 2021 04:07 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
HOW DOES ZEST WIN THAT ????


He was in control (almost) the whole game.


He did his best to not be.


Maybe his control wasn't optimal but contrary to what the casters were saying I feel like Clem was always one step behind.

don't agree, the fight on the right with the prism / 3 colossi turned the game around but Clem was winning at that point


Basically this. If it wasn't for the very cool micro of the Colossi, he was done. He had the money, he was floating 600 minerals very often, no excuse to not build a 6th and probes again.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 27 2021 19:13 GMT
#1147
On February 28 2021 04:12 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
MORE OF THIS PLEASE.

agree. Another low eco fist / knife fight. Loved it even if I'd have loved to see the other outcome...
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
February 27 2021 19:13 GMT
#1148
MVP is probably that obs in front of clem's 3rd, but I can't tell which player it benefitted more, full vision for zest but somehow it made him think it was ok to headbutt his army in this choke again and again.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
February 27 2021 19:13 GMT
#1149
On February 28 2021 04:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:
wonderful game, scrappy one ofc but wonderful


definitely some parts where i couldn't tell if zest was making a mistake or displaying subtle genius, such as having his zealots taking out scvs while bio tore up his stalkers.

i guess it worked? maybe that was optimal since the game was so low-econ.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 27 2021 19:13 GMT
#1150
On February 28 2021 04:11 Calliope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 04:10 Azzur wrote:
WTF, I'm so underwhelmed with the Terrans (with the exception of Maru) today. That game was Clem's to win. All he had to do was engage before that 3 collossus


The EMPs were on point but I feel like a slightly better viking control would've made a huge difference, taking out that warp prism.


The one thing I will definitely give Zest credit for is bringing that second Prism.

like 3-4 times Zest trades well enough with Clem that a Warp In would seal the deal and he can't because he loses his Warp Prism. Surprise surprise he brings a second one and solves that problem. Been saying for years that Protoss players rely too much on having one Prism at a time, Zest just showed what can go right for you if you bring an extra one.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
February 27 2021 19:13 GMT
#1151
On February 28 2021 04:12 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 04:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On February 28 2021 04:11 JoeCool wrote:
On February 28 2021 04:10 Noocta wrote:
On February 28 2021 04:09 JoeCool wrote:
On February 28 2021 04:07 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
HOW DOES ZEST WIN THAT ????


He was in control (almost) the whole game.


He did his best to not be.


Maybe his control wasn't optimal but contrary to what the casters were saying I feel like Clem was always one step behind.

don't agree, the fight on the right with the prism / 3 colossi turned the game around but Clem was winning at that point


Basically this. If it wasn't for the very cool micro of the Colossi, he was done. He had the money, he was floating 600 minerals very often, no excuse to not build a 6th and probes again.

He just decided to tactically be all-in for 15 minutes. He got this idea from his Terran practice partners.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 27 2021 19:13 GMT
#1152
On February 28 2021 04:10 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 04:08 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On February 28 2021 04:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2021 04:05 Noocta wrote:
This game is a good contender to have on the Harmstem " Guess the league " show.

I mean, Zests army control is insane


Not when he's attacking Command Centers though .

the double prism storm flank was maybe the sickest play I've seen from a Protoss player though


True!
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland560 Posts
February 27 2021 19:14 GMT
#1153
I feel that Clem had to mule too much and didn't have enough energy for scans which let observers get away and greatly made mines less effective.
Creator of Gresvan, Tropical Sacrifice, Taitalika, and Golden Forge
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 27 2021 19:14 GMT
#1154
On February 28 2021 04:13 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 04:11 Calliope wrote:
On February 28 2021 04:10 Azzur wrote:
WTF, I'm so underwhelmed with the Terrans (with the exception of Maru) today. That game was Clem's to win. All he had to do was engage before that 3 collossus


The EMPs were on point but I feel like a slightly better viking control would've made a huge difference, taking out that warp prism.


The one thing I will definitely give Zest credit for is bringing that second Prism.

For the last 11 years viewers have been screaming "just bring a second prism" at protoss players when they lose the first one
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
February 27 2021 19:14 GMT
#1155
Let's get ready for a shit 4th game now
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26268 Posts
February 27 2021 19:14 GMT
#1156
The fuck is Zest doing lmao? I can only surmise it’s high level mindgames, if he wins playing like that it should crush Clem’s spirit
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 27 2021 19:15 GMT
#1157
On February 28 2021 04:14 Aeromi wrote:
Let's get ready for a shit 4th game now

I have one fear, losing that game could have broken Clem's morale. But if he doesn't tilt I still favor him.
DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany329 Posts
February 27 2021 19:15 GMT
#1158
On February 28 2021 04:10 Azzur wrote:
WTF, I'm so underwhelmed with the Terrans (with the exception of Maru) today. That game was Clem's to win. All he had to do was engage before that 3 collossus


Yea.. with maphack it would be good.

How is clem suppose to know when zest is tranisioning?
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 27 2021 19:15 GMT
#1159
On February 28 2021 04:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 04:11 JoeCool wrote:
On February 28 2021 04:10 Noocta wrote:
On February 28 2021 04:09 JoeCool wrote:
On February 28 2021 04:07 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
HOW DOES ZEST WIN THAT ????


He was in control (almost) the whole game.


He did his best to not be.


Maybe his control wasn't optimal but contrary to what the casters were saying I feel like Clem was always one step behind.

don't agree, the fight on the right with the prism / 3 colossi turned the game around but Clem was winning at that point


I don't think so. Clem kept losing all his tech units. He wasn't building up any strength from his holds.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
February 27 2021 19:15 GMT
#1160
Zest chose a 4 base allin, and iam not even kidding. he decided to only go for army
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