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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44369 Posts
CatZ: Way more than 10... Like, 11. I love CatZ. | ||
dysenterymd
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On February 27 2021 03:21 Durnuu wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2021 03:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Nathanias: Serral is the GOAT, the greatest player in StarCraft history. wtf? He's white Don't be ridicolous. Serral's accomplishments as for 2021 are pretty relevant, it's not a joke claim anymore as it was three years ago; notice that I am not saying he is the GOAT. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44369 Posts
On February 27 2021 03:21 Durnuu wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2021 03:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Nathanias: Serral is the GOAT, the greatest player in StarCraft history. wtf? He's white Confirmed that Thorzain is the real goat. | ||
Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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egrimm
Poland1199 Posts
On February 27 2021 03:16 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2021 03:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: On February 27 2021 03:03 sneakyfox wrote: On February 27 2021 03:01 Nakajin wrote: On February 27 2021 02:59 [PkF] Wire wrote: glorious series. In all seriousness TY should win vs this PartinG You know, if Clem or Zest can beat Serral, TY can probably get to the final fairly easily Why is it so many people think TY has good TvP? It went downhill when he started playing BW and we haven't seen it back yet. I don't know. But he has good TvPartinG and this should suffice to break the great wall of bullshit He doesn't really have good TvPartinG (seriously check head to head PartinG had his number in every other year than 2020), it's just that his bullshit builds time out to hit faster than PartinG's bullshit builds. It feels like TY workarounded his weakness to PartinG by hitting him faster with some hilarious proxy play | ||
[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
On February 27 2021 03:21 Xain0n wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2021 03:16 [PkF] Wire wrote: I don't really like to say it but I feel this is a series to know who is going to be Zest's toy in the quarterfinals Serral's ZvP record(and his h2h vs Zest) says otherwise; even Clem has the upper hand on Zest, historically, but I'd agree to see Zest as favored against him. I agree we haven't seen Serral's vP since the loss vs Trap and he's bound to have worked on the mu. Does Clem have a positive h2h vs Zest ? That surprises me. But if he qualifies, I really don't see any other result than a 3-0 for Zest, too much experience and muscles for Clem to handle atm (and the pressure of having won vs Serral in the previous round, I don't think he'd be able to deal with that ; we saw something similar in the group stage where he kinda crumbled under pressure and exhaustion after the fantastic start) | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On February 27 2021 03:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Nathanias: Serral is the GOAT, the greatest player in StarCraft history. wtf? Clem also has the best TvZ bar none so I think you've forgotten what universe casters live in. | ||
DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On February 27 2021 03:23 Xain0n wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2021 03:21 Durnuu wrote: On February 27 2021 03:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Nathanias: Serral is the GOAT, the greatest player in StarCraft history. wtf? He's white Don't be ridicolous. Serral's accomplishments as for 2021 are pretty relevant, it's not a joke claim anymore as it was three years ago; notice that I am not saying he is the GOAT. You're the biggest Serral fanboy known to man, don't consider him to be the GOAT, but think it's not ridiculous to call him that? | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44369 Posts
On February 27 2021 03:23 Xain0n wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2021 03:21 Durnuu wrote: On February 27 2021 03:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Nathanias: Serral is the GOAT, the greatest player in StarCraft history. wtf? He's white Don't be ridicolous. Serral's accomplishments as for 2021 are pretty relevant, it's not a joke claim anymore as it was three years ago; notice that I am not saying he is the GOAT. Serral having solid accomplishments doesn't mean that "Serral is the GOAT" is no longer a joke claim. | ||
[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
On February 27 2021 03:22 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2021 03:18 [PkF] Wire wrote: On February 27 2021 03:16 Elentos wrote: On February 27 2021 03:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: On February 27 2021 03:03 sneakyfox wrote: On February 27 2021 03:01 Nakajin wrote: On February 27 2021 02:59 [PkF] Wire wrote: glorious series. In all seriousness TY should win vs this PartinG You know, if Clem or Zest can beat Serral, TY can probably get to the final fairly easily Why is it so many people think TY has good TvP? It went downhill when he started playing BW and we haven't seen it back yet. I don't know. But he has good TvPartinG and this should suffice to break the great wall of bullshit He doesn't really have good TvPartinG (seriously check head to head PartinG had his number in every other year than 2020), it's just that his bullshit builds time out to hit faster than PartinG's bullshit builds. yeah talking about this year where his bullshit skills have improved rather drastically. If he dances that kind of tango with PartinG (and if PartinG complies, but as I said before I'm pretty sure he'll keep that "Protoss artist" attitude) I'm pretty confident he wins again. I mean it's not like TY has much time to prepare for PartinG. It's hours compared to the week+ of GSL. But I do agree that TY probably has better odds when the games go to shit as opposed to playing a normal game. On the upside TY hasn't lost a game on the Korean server in this tournament ![]() TY definitely would have preferred Inno every day of the year. oh ofc he'd rather have played INno, especially current INno. But he still has very fine chances to get another year finals ro4 | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On February 27 2021 03:25 DBooN wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2021 03:23 Xain0n wrote: On February 27 2021 03:21 Durnuu wrote: On February 27 2021 03:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Nathanias: Serral is the GOAT, the greatest player in StarCraft history. wtf? He's white Don't be ridicolous. Serral's accomplishments as for 2021 are pretty relevant, it's not a joke claim anymore as it was three years ago; notice that I am not saying he is the GOAT. You're the biggest Serral fanboy known to man, don't consider him to be the GOAT, but think it's not ridiculous to call him that? I mean he has a fair shot in an argument | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44369 Posts
On February 27 2021 03:25 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2021 03:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Nathanias: Serral is the GOAT, the greatest player in StarCraft history. wtf? Clem also has the best TvZ bar none so I think you've forgotten what universe casters live in. Now I want to see Clem beat Serral in this series, just for the caster tears. | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland25458 Posts
I swear to god... Are there any hellbat builds that are actually good? Serral almost got no notice there whatsoever and held without horrific losses. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44369 Posts
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dysenterymd
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[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
On February 27 2021 03:28 Nakajin wrote: Who's this good for? I'd say Serral, but this remains playable | ||
Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On February 27 2021 03:24 [PkF] Wire wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2021 03:21 Xain0n wrote: On February 27 2021 03:16 [PkF] Wire wrote: I don't really like to say it but I feel this is a series to know who is going to be Zest's toy in the quarterfinals Serral's ZvP record(and his h2h vs Zest) says otherwise; even Clem has the upper hand on Zest, historically, but I'd agree to see Zest as favored against him. I agree we haven't seen Serral's vP since the loss vs Trap and he's bound to have worked on the mu. Does Clem have a positive h2h vs Zest ? That surprises me. But if he qualifies, I really don't see any other result than a 3-0 for Zest, too much experience and muscles for Clem to handle atm (and the pressure of having won vs Serral in the previous round, I don't think he'd be able to deal with that ; we saw something similar in the group stage where he kinda crumbled under pressure and exhaustion after the fantastic start) Trap's PvZ was by far the best in the world when he defeated Serral, even if Serral didn't work on it I'd see him favored over Zest. Clem is 17-12 in maps against Zest and won their last three encounters. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44369 Posts
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