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Waxangel
United States33701 Posts
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On October 22 2020 07:10 Argonauta wrote: Special play is really sloppy today. he is not in korea rigth? I m pretty sure he still is | ||
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geokilla
Canada8255 Posts
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ilax30
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On October 23 2020 02:28 mierin wrote: Why couldn't Stats just have played like Goblin? The more important question is why couldn't Big Gabe just play like TY | ||
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Sibiryak
112 Posts
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
 Lets see if the Oce winners final will be supper close and the Taiwan Winners final a stomp, just like it s meant to be :D | ||
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Husyelt
United States839 Posts
imgur.com edit: I can see it now | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16126 Posts
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darklycid
3561 Posts
On October 24 2020 02:44 Vindicare605 wrote: So the logic of GM Protoss players is that they'd rather lose 100 probes and several Nexus in a game to constant drops and Liberator harassment than to make a Stargate for a couple of Phoenix just to prevent drops. They won't ever make static defense either. Too expensive. lol. I agree on the static d, but getting phoenix after a blink/robo opener is not optimal to stop drops, you just need to many. E: what i dont understand is why marinelord goes for hellion drop twice when he can't even do dmg when the builds line up for it | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16126 Posts
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CicadaSC
United States1993 Posts
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Moonerz
United States467 Posts
On October 24 2020 04:15 Vindicare605 wrote: Well today's games have been pretty damn garbage. Just a lot of totally mismatched players and one sided stomps. Theres just too many lower tier players IMO. It removes almost all the suspense out of these group stages because its quite clear who is going to go through and who has literally no shot at all. While I understand giving these players experience so they can get better, it really makes 90% of these matches pointless. 32 slots is just too much for EU. | ||
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Darkness2k11
Chile313 Posts
On October 24 2020 02:44 Vindicare605 wrote: So the logic of GM Protoss players is that they'd rather lose 100 probes and several Nexus in a game to constant drops and Liberator harassment than to make a Stargate for a couple of Phoenix just to prevent drops. They won't ever make static defense either. Too expensive. lol. Lmao a couple phoenixes don't prevent drops, there's no need to shit on players just because they aren't Stats or Trap. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16126 Posts
On October 24 2020 04:54 Darkness2k11 wrote: Lmao a couple phoenixes don't prevent drops, there's no need to shit on players just because they aren't Stats or Trap. HeroMarine literally parked 4 Medivacs in the dead space behind the Protoss base on Romanticide and just left them there, he just moved to the 3rd or main whenever his opponent moved anywhere on the map. Literally ONE phoenix would keep him from doing that. I'm not saying I love the idea, but if the alternative is going to be to take THAT much damage from those 4 Medivacs because you have nothing that flies that can reach them, I think 300 minerals and 250 Gas is more than worth it. It'd be a hell of a lot cheaper than the amount he lost due to those 4 Medivacs hanging around there for most of the game. Alternatively he could have made a couple of Photon Cannons and a Shield Battery protecting them and the Medivacs wouldn't have been able to drop right on his probe line each time too, and that wouldn't have cost him any gas at all. I'm laughing at the logic of players thinking that those are wasted investments when because they aren't investing in any drop protection they end up taking MASSIVE amounts of preventable damage that could easily be avoided if they weren't so stubborn about deviating from their build. If Protoss are gonna keep doing this heavy Robotics style then multi-pronged drops are the natural way to defeat it. It's no different than TvT mech vs bio. If you try and fight Bio with Mech and you don't invest and turrets and sensor towers you're going to have a hard time preventing the Bio player from dropping everywhere. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16126 Posts
On October 24 2020 04:37 Moonerz wrote: Theres just too many lower tier players IMO. It removes almost all the suspense out of these group stages because its quite clear who is going to go through and who has literally no shot at all. While I understand giving these players experience so they can get better, it really makes 90% of these matches pointless. 32 slots is just too much for EU. King of Battles was like this too in the first group stage. Just REALLY obvious who had no shot of competing at all against the top tier competitors, but there were so many Koreans in that group stage that you actually had a couple of good series here and there. Just across the board, the gap between the top competitors in each region and the next tier down is pretty huge it might just be me but it seems like that gap is getting wider as time goes on not narrower. | ||
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ilax30
720 Posts
On October 24 2020 04:28 CicadaSC wrote: this tourney is so confusing to follow i never know what matches are gonna be played on stream Just follow liquipedia, all matches are listed there and you should also see on what stream they are being played. | ||
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