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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33714 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-10 11:40:42
October 21 2020 20:42 GMT
#1
[image loading]DreamHack SC2 Masters Winter


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AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
October 21 2020 22:10 GMT
#2
Special play is really sloppy today. he is not in korea rigth?
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
October 22 2020 06:26 GMT
#3
On October 22 2020 07:10 Argonauta wrote:
Special play is really sloppy today. he is not in korea rigth?

I m pretty sure he still is
MaxPax
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
October 22 2020 16:55 GMT
#4
EZ for Goblin
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
October 22 2020 16:57 GMT
#5
Happy Gobbo beat Gabe in game 3 with carriers/disruptor. A lot of ppl still think that comp is weak v terran for some reason because toss often just dies trying to get there. Normally mass viking isnt the answer although Maru showed with baiting interceptors on turrets and then coming from the highground is a possibility. Then you have thors and marines that are decent against carriers, but again die to the 2nd part of the toss army that is the disruptor. BC's with yamato really is the way to go, but its so slow to get there, and often you dont have the eco or realise to late. GG to Gobbo!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4946 Posts
October 22 2020 17:28 GMT
#6
Why couldn't Stats just have played like Goblin?
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
October 22 2020 17:59 GMT
#7
On October 23 2020 02:28 mierin wrote:
Why couldn't Stats just have played like Goblin?

The more important question is why couldn't Big Gabe just play like TY
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Sibiryak
Profile Joined April 2008
112 Posts
October 22 2020 22:39 GMT
#8
4 groups - 4 french leaders
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
October 23 2020 14:59 GMT
#9
2x 3-0 in Oce and then 2x 3-2 in Taiwan
Lets see if the Oce winners final will be supper close and the Taiwan Winners final a stomp, just like it s meant to be :D
MaxPax
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-23 17:14:22
October 23 2020 17:11 GMT
#10
Am I the only one who cant see the main stream under the Live Events ESL?
imgur.com

edit: I can see it now
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
October 23 2020 17:42 GMT
#11
Gabe going full spoon terran here.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16129 Posts
October 23 2020 17:44 GMT
#12
So the logic of GM Protoss players is that they'd rather lose 100 probes and several Nexus in a game to constant drops and Liberator harassment than to make a Stargate for a couple of Phoenix just to prevent drops. They won't ever make static defense either. Too expensive. lol.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3562 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-23 18:34:02
October 23 2020 18:32 GMT
#13
On October 24 2020 02:44 Vindicare605 wrote:
So the logic of GM Protoss players is that they'd rather lose 100 probes and several Nexus in a game to constant drops and Liberator harassment than to make a Stargate for a couple of Phoenix just to prevent drops. They won't ever make static defense either. Too expensive. lol.

I agree on the static d, but getting phoenix after a blink/robo opener is not optimal to stop drops, you just need to many.
E: what i dont understand is why marinelord goes for hellion drop twice when he can't even do dmg when the builds line up for it
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16129 Posts
October 23 2020 19:15 GMT
#14
Well today's games have been pretty damn garbage. Just a lot of totally mismatched players and one sided stomps.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States2081 Posts
October 23 2020 19:28 GMT
#15
this tourney is so confusing to follow i never know what matches are gonna be played on stream
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-23 19:38:00
October 23 2020 19:37 GMT
#16
On October 24 2020 04:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
Well today's games have been pretty damn garbage. Just a lot of totally mismatched players and one sided stomps.


Theres just too many lower tier players IMO. It removes almost all the suspense out of these group stages because its quite clear who is going to go through and who has literally no shot at all. While I understand giving these players experience so they can get better, it really makes 90% of these matches pointless.

32 slots is just too much for EU.
Darkness2k11
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Chile313 Posts
October 23 2020 19:54 GMT
#17
On October 24 2020 02:44 Vindicare605 wrote:
So the logic of GM Protoss players is that they'd rather lose 100 probes and several Nexus in a game to constant drops and Liberator harassment than to make a Stargate for a couple of Phoenix just to prevent drops. They won't ever make static defense either. Too expensive. lol.


Lmao a couple phoenixes don't prevent drops, there's no need to shit on players just because they aren't Stats or Trap.
When Behind, Dark Shrine
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-23 20:04:38
October 23 2020 20:00 GMT
#18
On October 24 2020 04:54 Darkness2k11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2020 02:44 Vindicare605 wrote:
So the logic of GM Protoss players is that they'd rather lose 100 probes and several Nexus in a game to constant drops and Liberator harassment than to make a Stargate for a couple of Phoenix just to prevent drops. They won't ever make static defense either. Too expensive. lol.


Lmao a couple phoenixes don't prevent drops, there's no need to shit on players just because they aren't Stats or Trap.


HeroMarine literally parked 4 Medivacs in the dead space behind the Protoss base on Romanticide and just left them there, he just moved to the 3rd or main whenever his opponent moved anywhere on the map. Literally ONE phoenix would keep him from doing that.

I'm not saying I love the idea, but if the alternative is going to be to take THAT much damage from those 4 Medivacs because you have nothing that flies that can reach them, I think 300 minerals and 250 Gas is more than worth it. It'd be a hell of a lot cheaper than the amount he lost due to those 4 Medivacs hanging around there for most of the game.

Alternatively he could have made a couple of Photon Cannons and a Shield Battery protecting them and the Medivacs wouldn't have been able to drop right on his probe line each time too, and that wouldn't have cost him any gas at all.

I'm laughing at the logic of players thinking that those are wasted investments when because they aren't investing in any drop protection they end up taking MASSIVE amounts of preventable damage that could easily be avoided if they weren't so stubborn about deviating from their build.

If Protoss are gonna keep doing this heavy Robotics style then multi-pronged drops are the natural way to defeat it. It's no different than TvT mech vs bio. If you try and fight Bio with Mech and you don't invest and turrets and sensor towers you're going to have a hard time preventing the Bio player from dropping everywhere.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16129 Posts
October 23 2020 20:33 GMT
#19
On October 24 2020 04:37 Moonerz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2020 04:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
Well today's games have been pretty damn garbage. Just a lot of totally mismatched players and one sided stomps.


Theres just too many lower tier players IMO. It removes almost all the suspense out of these group stages because its quite clear who is going to go through and who has literally no shot at all. While I understand giving these players experience so they can get better, it really makes 90% of these matches pointless.

32 slots is just too much for EU.


King of Battles was like this too in the first group stage. Just REALLY obvious who had no shot of competing at all against the top tier competitors, but there were so many Koreans in that group stage that you actually had a couple of good series here and there.

Just across the board, the gap between the top competitors in each region and the next tier down is pretty huge it might just be me but it seems like that gap is getting wider as time goes on not narrower.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
October 23 2020 20:36 GMT
#20
On October 24 2020 04:28 CicadaSC wrote:
this tourney is so confusing to follow i never know what matches are gonna be played on stream


Just follow liquipedia, all matches are listed there and you should also see on what stream they are being played.
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