Happy Gobbo beat Gabe in game 3 with carriers/disruptor. A lot of ppl still think that comp is weak v terran for some reason because toss often just dies trying to get there. Normally mass viking isnt the answer although Maru showed with baiting interceptors on turrets and then coming from the highground is a possibility. Then you have thors and marines that are decent against carriers, but again die to the 2nd part of the toss army that is the disruptor. BC's with yamato really is the way to go, but its so slow to get there, and often you dont have the eco or realise to late. GG to Gobbo!

mierin

United States4943 Posts

October 22 2020 17:28 GMT

Why couldn't Stats just have played like Goblin?

Elentos

55581 Posts

October 22 2020 17:59 GMT

On October 23 2020 02:28 mierin wrote:
Why couldn't Stats just have played like Goblin?

The more important question is why couldn't Big Gabe just play like TY

Sibiryak

112 Posts

October 22 2020 22:39 GMT

4 groups - 4 french leaders

dbRic1203

Germany2655 Posts

October 23 2020 14:59 GMT

2x 3-0 in Oce and then 2x 3-2 in Taiwan

Lets see if the Oce winners final will be supper close and the Taiwan Winners final a stomp, just like it s meant to be :D

Husyelt

United States837 Posts

October 23 2020 17:11 GMT

#10

Am I the only one who cant see the main stream under the Live Events ESL?
imgur.com

edit: I can see it now

royalroadweed

United States8301 Posts

October 23 2020 17:42 GMT

#11

Gabe going full spoon terran here.

Vindicare605

United States16122 Posts

October 23 2020 17:44 GMT

#12

So the logic of GM Protoss players is that they'd rather lose 100 probes and several Nexus in a game to constant drops and Liberator harassment than to make a Stargate for a couple of Phoenix just to prevent drops. They won't ever make static defense either. Too expensive. lol.

darklycid

3550 Posts

October 23 2020 18:32 GMT

#13

On October 24 2020 02:44 Vindicare605 wrote:
So the logic of GM Protoss players is that they'd rather lose 100 probes and several Nexus in a game to constant drops and Liberator harassment than to make a Stargate for a couple of Phoenix just to prevent drops. They won't ever make static defense either. Too expensive. lol.

I agree on the static d, but getting phoenix after a blink/robo opener is not optimal to stop drops, you just need to many.
E: what i dont understand is why marinelord goes for hellion drop twice when he can't even do dmg when the builds line up for it

Vindicare605

United States16122 Posts

October 23 2020 19:15 GMT

#14

Well today's games have been pretty damn garbage. Just a lot of totally mismatched players and one sided stomps.

CicadaSC

United States1926 Posts

October 23 2020 19:28 GMT

#15

this tourney is so confusing to follow i never know what matches are gonna be played on stream

Moonerz

United States462 Posts

October 23 2020 19:37 GMT

#16

On October 24 2020 04:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
Well today's games have been pretty damn garbage. Just a lot of totally mismatched players and one sided stomps.

Theres just too many lower tier players IMO. It removes almost all the suspense out of these group stages because its quite clear who is going to go through and who has literally no shot at all. While I understand giving these players experience so they can get better, it really makes 90% of these matches pointless.

32 slots is just too much for EU.

Darkness2k11

Chile313 Posts

October 23 2020 19:54 GMT

#17

Lmao a couple phoenixes don't prevent drops, there's no need to shit on players just because they aren't Stats or Trap.

Vindicare605

United States16122 Posts

October 23 2020 20:00 GMT

#18

On October 24 2020 04:54 Darkness2k11 wrote:

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Lmao a couple phoenixes don't prevent drops, there's no need to shit on players just because they aren't Stats or Trap.

HeroMarine literally parked 4 Medivacs in the dead space behind the Protoss base on Romanticide and just left them there, he just moved to the 3rd or main whenever his opponent moved anywhere on the map. Literally ONE phoenix would keep him from doing that.

I'm not saying I love the idea, but if the alternative is going to be to take THAT much damage from those 4 Medivacs because you have nothing that flies that can reach them, I think 300 minerals and 250 Gas is more than worth it. It'd be a hell of a lot cheaper than the amount he lost due to those 4 Medivacs hanging around there for most of the game.

Alternatively he could have made a couple of Photon Cannons and a Shield Battery protecting them and the Medivacs wouldn't have been able to drop right on his probe line each time too, and that wouldn't have cost him any gas at all.

I'm laughing at the logic of players thinking that those are wasted investments when because they aren't investing in any drop protection they end up taking MASSIVE amounts of preventable damage that could easily be avoided if they weren't so stubborn about deviating from their build.

If Protoss are gonna keep doing this heavy Robotics style then multi-pronged drops are the natural way to defeat it. It's no different than TvT mech vs bio. If you try and fight Bio with Mech and you don't invest and turrets and sensor towers you're going to have a hard time preventing the Bio player from dropping everywhere.

Vindicare605

United States16122 Posts

October 23 2020 20:33 GMT

#19

On October 24 2020 04:37 Moonerz wrote:

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King of Battles was like this too in the first group stage. Just REALLY obvious who had no shot of competing at all against the top tier competitors, but there were so many Koreans in that group stage that you actually had a couple of good series here and there.

Just across the board, the gap between the top competitors in each region and the next tier down is pretty huge it might just be me but it seems like that gap is getting wider as time goes on not narrower.