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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
September 17 2020 17:08 GMT
#441
On September 18 2020 02:04 kaykoose wrote:
It's fine if the casters are Clem fans but I think they should be a little more impartial when commentating, no? That was a little rough to listen to


Casters in general are quite big fans of the top EU players. It's like watching the national team in football when they're playing, they're really cheering for "our boys".
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
September 17 2020 17:10 GMT
#442
On September 18 2020 02:06 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 02:04 kaykoose wrote:
It's fine if the casters are Clem fans but I think they should be a little more impartial when commentating, no? That was a little rough to listen to

Impartial commentary isn't a thing in SC2.


I feel like I've heard these same casters, Rotti in particular, call it more down the line than they did today with Clem. But you could be right.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
September 17 2020 17:11 GMT
#443
On September 18 2020 02:08 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 02:04 kaykoose wrote:
It's fine if the casters are Clem fans but I think they should be a little more impartial when commentating, no? That was a little rough to listen to


Casters in general are quite big fans of the top EU players. It's like watching the national team in football when they're playing, they're really cheering for "our boys".

Even if there's no EU players involved the casts will always lean towards one side. Doesn't even have to be a conscious decision.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
September 17 2020 17:12 GMT
#444
Wait, I'm confused. Didn't the ESL-run tournament conclude with the Reynor vs Clem finals the other day? Are there two premier tournaments?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
September 17 2020 17:13 GMT
#445
Not sure if Clem really has a better chance against Trap than Reynor/Serral. Imo his TvP has to be probably better than his TvZ to beat Trap cross server.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
September 17 2020 17:13 GMT
#446
On September 18 2020 02:12 Heartland wrote:
Wait, I'm confused. Didn't the ESL-run tournament conclude with the Reynor vs Clem finals the other day? Are there two premier tournaments?


These are the Season Finals which brings together the top players from the different regions, including Korea.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
September 17 2020 17:14 GMT
#447
On September 18 2020 02:12 Heartland wrote:
Wait, I'm confused. Didn't the ESL-run tournament conclude with the Reynor vs Clem finals the other day? Are there two premier tournaments?

That was the EU regional final that leads into the cross-region final (ft. Korea) which is this week.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
September 17 2020 17:16 GMT
#448
On September 18 2020 02:14 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 02:12 Heartland wrote:
Wait, I'm confused. Didn't the ESL-run tournament conclude with the Reynor vs Clem finals the other day? Are there two premier tournaments?

That was the EU regional final that leads into the cross-region final (ft. Korea) which is this week.


Ah. I don't follow the scene as closely anymore.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
September 17 2020 17:18 GMT
#449
Rotti LOL 'my Battlecruiser will yamato all over Wardi's' sounded so wrong
Faker is the GOAT!
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
September 17 2020 17:37 GMT
#450
Damn no Clem vs Rogue? TT
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
September 17 2020 17:57 GMT
#451
On September 18 2020 02:37 Tsubbi wrote:
Damn no Clem vs Rogue? TT

We can't have nice things.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
September 17 2020 18:06 GMT
#452
On September 18 2020 02:08 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 02:04 kaykoose wrote:
It's fine if the casters are Clem fans but I think they should be a little more impartial when commentating, no? That was a little rough to listen to


Casters in general are quite big fans of the top EU players. It's like watching the national team in football when they're playing, they're really cheering for "our boys".

I guess it’s hard not to, it’s not even a matter of shared European bias, but ‘guys I know and interact with frequently’ bias sometimes.

I think that’s probably why the Heromarine bias is quite as pronounced as it is, that’s the one I find OTT grating personally, over the general bias which I concede exists but doesn’t cross my particular line.

Clem hype has an element of a genuinely incredibly exciting talent emerging and blossoming too, foreign land is desperately in need of a challenger to the Zerg duopoly
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-17 18:08:51
September 17 2020 18:08 GMT
#453
Rogue is just scary as fuck. Unfortunately his games tend to suck so hard that barely anyone likes seeing him winning. But his results if he‘s playing properly are just insane.
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1005 Posts
September 17 2020 18:19 GMT
#454
On September 18 2020 03:08 Swisslink wrote:
Rogue is just scary as fuck. Unfortunately his games tend to suck so hard that barely anyone likes seeing him winning. But his results if he‘s playing properly are just insane.


Yea I think if Rogue can get his hands on that prize money he's not concerned about making entertaining games, he's concerned with winning.

And boy, does he win, he wins HARD lol poor Special just looked so outclassed T__T
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 17 2020 20:14 GMT
#455
Clem v Rogue would ve been better. Not that there is much room for worse games but still
MaxPax
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7459 Posts
September 18 2020 07:34 GMT
#456
On September 15 2020 16:09 Harris1st wrote:
Prediction time:

A: (T)TY, (P)Trap
B: (Z)Reynor, (P)Stats ((Z)DRG wins initial match vs (P)Stats, loses vs (Z)Reynor and then rematch curse)
C: (Z)Rogue, (T)Clem (wohoo (T)Clem gets to the Playoffs!)
D: (Z)Serral, (T)INnoVation ( (Z)Serral is pissed and ez 4:0)

Edit: lol who is wiNs


Not that it was overly difficult, but 100% so far
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 18 2020 11:14 GMT
#457
On September 18 2020 16:34 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2020 16:09 Harris1st wrote:
Prediction time:

A: (T)TY, (P)Trap
B: (Z)Reynor, (P)Stats ((Z)DRG wins initial match vs (P)Stats, loses vs (Z)Reynor and then rematch curse)
C: (Z)Rogue, (T)Clem (wohoo (T)Clem gets to the Playoffs!)
D: (Z)Serral, (T)INnoVation ( (Z)Serral is pissed and ez 4:0)

Edit: lol who is wiNs


Not that it was overly difficult, but 100% so far

DRG dIDnT wIN hiS FIrsT mATcH, tHOugH
MaxPax
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
877 Posts
September 18 2020 11:38 GMT
#458
On September 15 2020 03:21 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2020 02:22 Vision_ wrote:
Who wins ? humm i would say latency...

So if the servers rules are like last time, Korea?
Oh wait, Serral won last time despite worse ping on NA West

Or if you aren t only looking at EU and Kr, then it should clearly be NA, I gues, as they pretty much allways get ping advantage on NA?

Don t get me wrong, ping obviously has an impact, but pretending all these games are meaninglesss, because they aren t offline is just silly.


It s not an insignificant choice to be called Rogue as a Zerg
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7459 Posts
September 18 2020 12:20 GMT
#459
On September 18 2020 20:14 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 16:34 Harris1st wrote:
On September 15 2020 16:09 Harris1st wrote:
Prediction time:

A: (T)TY, (P)Trap
B: (Z)Reynor, (P)Stats ((Z)DRG wins initial match vs (P)Stats, loses vs (Z)Reynor and then rematch curse)
C: (Z)Rogue, (T)Clem (wohoo (T)Clem gets to the Playoffs!)
D: (Z)Serral, (T)INnoVation ( (Z)Serral is pissed and ez 4:0)

Edit: lol who is wiNs


Not that it was overly difficult, but 100% so far

DRG dIDnT wIN hiS FIrsT mATcH, tHOugH


Shame on me :/
But he really should have

I also said TY would finish first and Trap second.

Does anyone NOT think Serral and Inno will advance today?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
September 18 2020 13:19 GMT
#460
On September 18 2020 21:20 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2020 20:14 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 18 2020 16:34 Harris1st wrote:
On September 15 2020 16:09 Harris1st wrote:
Prediction time:

A: (T)TY, (P)Trap
B: (Z)Reynor, (P)Stats ((Z)DRG wins initial match vs (P)Stats, loses vs (Z)Reynor and then rematch curse)
C: (Z)Rogue, (T)Clem (wohoo (T)Clem gets to the Playoffs!)
D: (Z)Serral, (T)INnoVation ( (Z)Serral is pissed and ez 4:0)

Edit: lol who is wiNs


Not that it was overly difficult, but 100% so far

DRG dIDnT wIN hiS FIrsT mATcH, tHOugH


Shame on me :/
But he really should have

I also said TY would finish first and Trap second.

Does anyone NOT think Serral and Inno will advance today?


I had to check who else is in that group :D If there was a strong protoss there I could see Inno bombing out but with Time and Scarlett thats a nono
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