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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
September 12 2020 06:15 GMT
#121
Ahhh good ol' late game soO
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:19:20
September 12 2020 06:16 GMT
#122
moving into a 5 base comp with 3 bases like+ Show Spoiler +
no
get rich or die mining
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
September 12 2020 06:19 GMT
#123
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:21:00
September 12 2020 06:20 GMT
#124
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.


Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 12 2020 06:21 GMT
#125
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.


There was a lot of damage done early on on both sides, so I wouldn't draw too many conclusions from that particular game.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 06:21 GMT
#126
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.

definitely an impetus on p to make a move but i don't think the mu is necessarily imba. oh wait jk there is no such thing as an ultimate army pvz. z just laughs at you.
get rich or die mining
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
September 12 2020 06:22 GMT
#127
"it's slow enough that a terran can kill it without being frustrated"

LLMFAO
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 06:22 GMT
#128
On September 12 2020 15:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.


Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit.

the unit you are referring to is a hoax
get rich or die mining
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 06:23 GMT
#129
On September 12 2020 15:22 BerserkSword wrote:
"it's slow enough that a terran can kill it without being frustrated"

LLMFAO

those patch notes man.. inviting comedy.
get rich or die mining
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:23:52
September 12 2020 06:23 GMT
#130
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:24:35
September 12 2020 06:23 GMT
#131
On September 12 2020 15:22 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 15:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.


Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit.

the unit you are referring to is a hoax

Facts remain. Tosses do lose to zergs building it, but i truly don't remember last time i saw protoss beat a zerg without it.

Oh, and of course i don't refer to that great PvT all-in unit.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 06:24 GMT
#132
On September 12 2020 15:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 15:22 Alejandrisha wrote:
On September 12 2020 15:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.


Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit.

the unit you are referring to is a hoax

Facts remain. Tosses do lose to zergs building it, but i truly don't remember last time i saw protoss beat a zerg without it.

i don't think this is relevant. but i would love to see the stats.
get rich or die mining
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Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:27:12
September 12 2020 06:26 GMT
#133
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.


The all-in didn't kill soO. That explains the midgame situation. soO lost badly in his first push, but Hurricane lacked the army to punish due to the failed all-in. Lurkers are good vs ground, and tempests are bad vs units.

I think PvZ is in a bad spot right now but that game isn't a good example.
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 06:26 GMT
#134
Hurricane is playing 2017 PvZ too much for my taste.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 06:27 GMT
#135
On September 12 2020 15:26 lolfail9001 wrote:
Hurricane is playing 2017 PvZ too much for my taste.

might be the best route
get rich or die mining
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3132 Posts
September 12 2020 06:30 GMT
#136
I want to see DT blink.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:32:43
September 12 2020 06:32 GMT
#137
On September 12 2020 15:30 NoS-Craig wrote:
I want to see DT blink.

you will
edit: PSYCHE
get rich or die mining
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Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
September 12 2020 06:33 GMT
#138
It will be the most poetic moment in starcraft 2 history if soO's last game is a GSL loss to innovation.
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 06:34 GMT
#139
Is it? I would find soO losing to Dear for his GSL game much more poetic.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:37:12
September 12 2020 06:36 GMT
#140
I was talking more about the army interaction of Protods and Zerg as well as economy. Protoss harass don't do enough damage to the Zerg ever. I'm not even sure why they bother with the adepts anymore.

And then lurker literally counters every ground protoss unit
They can be countered by outplaying the Zerg atacking various places while you rush to air and defend with Templars but then Vipers and the increased lurker range come into play.


Still, I think Soo played well and I hope he advances over inno!
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
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