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Durnuu
13326 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:17 deacon.frost wrote: You can see it affects mostly flying spellcasters, mostly because they can be so well grouped. IMO I dunno man, mass infestors was a thing not that long ago | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:12 Elentos wrote: One of these days surely Blizzard have to give a fuck about the dominance of ravens in TvT combined with how they're nothing in the other match-ups. Ravens are pretty good in other match-ups as well you just don't need to mass them as much. Disable against protoss and reducing the armor spell is actually pretty overpowered in any match-ups. | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:17 deacon.frost wrote: You can see it affects mostly flying spellcasters, mostly because they can be so well grouped. IMO messing with that unit just a single time could change it into a gas dump unit this unit is so hard to balance:[ | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:19 raga4ka wrote: Ravens are pretty good in other match-ups as well you just don't need to mass them as much. Disable against protoss and reducing the armor spell is actually pretty overpowered in any match-ups. When's the last time you've seen more than 1 raven made in the same game by a pro player outside of TvT? They're okay in the early stages of PvT but as the game goes long you don't make them. In TvZ you generally never make them. In TvT it's amazing at every stage to have ravens. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12133 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:18 Durnuu wrote: I dunno man, mass infestors was a thing not that long ago Yeah, but somehow infestor is an interesting exception. If Ghosts didn't have the snipe nobody would mass them either. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:23 Schelim wrote: i want both of the Terrans and sOs to advance. can we like, sacrifice a player from another group or something? What's the point in letting Bomber advance  | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:19 raga4ka wrote: Ravens are pretty good in other match-ups as well you just don't need to mass them as much. Disable against protoss and reducing the armor spell is actually pretty overpowered in any match-ups. in theory YES : ] actually NO :[ | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:23 Schelim wrote: i want both of the Terrans and sOs to advance. can we like, sacrifice a player from another group or something? Nah, 0 chance Bomber advances and a good thing as well. He would get stomped even harder in the next rounds... Really does not belong to this level anymore. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:24 Elentos wrote: What's the point in letting Bomber advance Bomber is love. Bomber is life. (but not Life) | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:24 Elentos wrote: What's the point in letting Bomber advance to prove dat dieukure sucks at starcraft ;Ooooo | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12133 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16849 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:24 Elentos wrote: What's the point in letting Bomber advance he da best | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:21 Elentos wrote: When's the last time you've seen more than 1 raven made in the same game by a pro player outside of TvT? Ravens provide utility i didn't say you need to mass them. They are still used to disable colossi or any other protoss unit and anti-armor missile is used although less in all MUs also. I'm just saying having a few ravens is beneficial. I'm not sure why people hate ravens in TvT, they are a huge gass investment. Bomber didn't lose because of ravens, after he had the initial advantage in vikings he stopped producing them and played so passive with poorer macro and just got outplayed. Raven's just counter BCs... | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12133 Posts
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12133 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16091 Posts
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darklycid
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