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Pandemona
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Poll: Who Advances? sOs & Cure (16) Cure & Armani (7) Bomber & sOs (3) sOs & Armani (3) Cure & Bomber (3) Armani & Bomber (0) 32 total votes Your vote: Who Advances? (Vote): Bomber & sOs | ||
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Cure 1st sOs 2nd is my prediction. | ||
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On September 09 2020 18:32 Waxangel wrote: the stats says sOs is one of the favorites to go through, so you're just really hoping he doesn't mess up against Armani here ;o Mess up or get Zerged? | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On September 09 2020 18:33 Durnuu wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 18:32 Waxangel wrote: the stats says sOs is one of the favorites to go through, so you're just really hoping he doesn't mess up against Armani here ;o Mess up or get Zerged? Why not both? :D | ||
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Durnuu
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On September 09 2020 18:36 Elentos wrote: Bomber should get a def win for not vetoing Golden Wall. TRUE | ||
Wintex
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Wintex
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On September 09 2020 18:42 Schelim wrote: is Wintex here? yes | ||
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Schelim
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On September 09 2020 18:45 Wintex wrote: yes hi fellow Bomber lover i'm nervous | ||
Wintex
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On September 09 2020 18:48 Fuell wrote: Bomber has never been the same after scarlett's burrowed banelings This is such a bad take I actually think you need to yer eyes checked On September 09 2020 18:50 Schelim wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 18:45 Wintex wrote: On September 09 2020 18:42 Schelim wrote: is Wintex here? yes hi fellow Bomber lover i'm nervous he can slap down sos and armani no worries | ||
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deacon.frost
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On September 09 2020 18:52 Javah wrote: How to end a TvT : make 10 ravens when your opponent has none. Be so much better that you have 10 more SCVs, better upgrades and bigger army while nothing happened yet. | ||
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Javah
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On September 09 2020 18:53 deacon.frost wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 18:52 Javah wrote: How to end a TvT : make 10 ravens when your opponent has none. Be so much better that you have 10 more SCVs, better upgrades and bigger army while nothing happened yet. Sure! But it's always a bit tricky to cleanly end a TvT even when you are way ahead. This styling with raven seems a good way to do it. | ||
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Charoisaur
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On September 09 2020 18:57 Javah wrote: Aaaand now Artosis is cursing again. Poor sOs. | ||
seemsgood
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On September 09 2020 18:57 Javah wrote: Aaaand now Artosis is cursing again. tastosis talking about inconsistency my boi stats : am i a joke to you ? | ||
Wintex
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On September 09 2020 19:03 Javah wrote: Cure feeling he was so much better at TvT that he starts getting cocky can be Bomber saving grace. And yet Cure is 40 supply ahead, how? oO | ||
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On September 09 2020 19:09 Fuell wrote: Bomber attacking his own turrets I think he was making room for a CC. | ||
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sneakyfox
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On September 09 2020 19:12 Wintex wrote: I gotta say holy fuck blizzard has somehow destroyed any beauty in starcraft 2 engagements by making spellcasting the most important interaction in any battle. Yes spellcasting is important in brood war too, but holy synagogue the levels are radically different. It's a TvT thing with the Ravens. Players (pros included) have been saying it for a long time. Plus, of course, Vipers in any matchup, which are just OP. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:12 Wintex wrote: I gotta say holy fuck blizzard has somehow destroyed any beauty in starcraft 2 engagements by making spellcasting the most important interaction in any battle. Yes spellcasting is important in brood war too, but holy synagogue the levels are radically different. You can see it affects mostly flying spellcasters, mostly because they can be so well grouped. IMO | ||
Durnuu
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On September 09 2020 19:17 deacon.frost wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 19:12 Wintex wrote: I gotta say holy fuck blizzard has somehow destroyed any beauty in starcraft 2 engagements by making spellcasting the most important interaction in any battle. Yes spellcasting is important in brood war too, but holy synagogue the levels are radically different. You can see it affects mostly flying spellcasters, mostly because they can be so well grouped. IMO I dunno man, mass infestors was a thing not that long ago | ||
raga4ka
Bulgaria5676 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:12 Elentos wrote: One of these days surely Blizzard have to give a fuck about the dominance of ravens in TvT combined with how they're nothing in the other match-ups. Ravens are pretty good in other match-ups as well you just don't need to mass them as much. Disable against protoss and reducing the armor spell is actually pretty overpowered in any match-ups. | ||
seemsgood
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On September 09 2020 19:17 deacon.frost wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 19:12 Wintex wrote: I gotta say holy fuck blizzard has somehow destroyed any beauty in starcraft 2 engagements by making spellcasting the most important interaction in any battle. Yes spellcasting is important in brood war too, but holy synagogue the levels are radically different. You can see it affects mostly flying spellcasters, mostly because they can be so well grouped. IMO messing with that unit just a single time could change it into a gas dump unit this unit is so hard to balance:[ | ||
Elentos
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On September 09 2020 19:19 raga4ka wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 19:12 Elentos wrote: One of these days surely Blizzard have to give a fuck about the dominance of ravens in TvT combined with how they're nothing in the other match-ups. Ravens are pretty good in other match-ups as well you just don't need to mass them as much. Disable against protoss and reducing the armor spell is actually pretty overpowered in any match-ups. When's the last time you've seen more than 1 raven made in the same game by a pro player outside of TvT? They're okay in the early stages of PvT but as the game goes long you don't make them. In TvZ you generally never make them. In TvT it's amazing at every stage to have ravens. | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:18 Durnuu wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 19:17 deacon.frost wrote: On September 09 2020 19:12 Wintex wrote: I gotta say holy fuck blizzard has somehow destroyed any beauty in starcraft 2 engagements by making spellcasting the most important interaction in any battle. Yes spellcasting is important in brood war too, but holy synagogue the levels are radically different. You can see it affects mostly flying spellcasters, mostly because they can be so well grouped. IMO I dunno man, mass infestors was a thing not that long ago Yeah, but somehow infestor is an interesting exception. If Ghosts didn't have the snipe nobody would mass them either. | ||
Schelim
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Elentos
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On September 09 2020 19:23 Schelim wrote: i want both of the Terrans and sOs to advance. can we like, sacrifice a player from another group or something? What's the point in letting Bomber advance | ||
seemsgood
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On September 09 2020 19:19 raga4ka wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 19:12 Elentos wrote: One of these days surely Blizzard have to give a fuck about the dominance of ravens in TvT combined with how they're nothing in the other match-ups. Ravens are pretty good in other match-ups as well you just don't need to mass them as much. Disable against protoss and reducing the armor spell is actually pretty overpowered in any match-ups. in theory YES : ] actually NO :[ | ||
MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:23 Schelim wrote: i want both of the Terrans and sOs to advance. can we like, sacrifice a player from another group or something? Nah, 0 chance Bomber advances and a good thing as well. He would get stomped even harder in the next rounds... Really does not belong to this level anymore. | ||
Schelim
Austria11510 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:24 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 19:23 Schelim wrote: i want both of the Terrans and sOs to advance. can we like, sacrifice a player from another group or something? What's the point in letting Bomber advance Bomber is love. Bomber is life. (but not Life) | ||
seemsgood
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On September 09 2020 19:24 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 19:23 Schelim wrote: i want both of the Terrans and sOs to advance. can we like, sacrifice a player from another group or something? What's the point in letting Bomber advance to prove dat dieukure sucks at starcraft ;Ooooo | ||
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Wintex
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On September 09 2020 19:24 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 19:23 Schelim wrote: i want both of the Terrans and sOs to advance. can we like, sacrifice a player from another group or something? What's the point in letting Bomber advance he da best | ||
raga4ka
Bulgaria5676 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:21 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 19:19 raga4ka wrote: On September 09 2020 19:12 Elentos wrote: One of these days surely Blizzard have to give a fuck about the dominance of ravens in TvT combined with how they're nothing in the other match-ups. Ravens are pretty good in other match-ups as well you just don't need to mass them as much. Disable against protoss and reducing the armor spell is actually pretty overpowered in any match-ups. When's the last time you've seen more than 1 raven made in the same game by a pro player outside of TvT? Ravens provide utility i didn't say you need to mass them. They are still used to disable colossi or any other protoss unit and anti-armor missile is used although less in all MUs also. I'm just saying having a few ravens is beneficial. I'm not sure why people hate ravens in TvT, they are a huge gass investment. Bomber didn't lose because of ravens, after he had the initial advantage in vikings he stopped producing them and played so passive with poorer macro and just got outplayed. Raven's just counter BCs... | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
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On September 09 2020 19:37 darklycid wrote: Zest must be jelaous looking at sOs bank. when you're limited by the gas income and not by pylons/gateways | ||
seemsgood
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On September 09 2020 19:36 deacon.frost wrote: sOs playing his classical weird games its not weird tho its neeb s build would love to see some chadrays | ||
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Javah
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seemsgood
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dese spore crawler defenses look impossible to penetrate tho they are like BW turrets plus "EXTRA THICC" | ||
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Armani appears to win this. | ||
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On September 09 2020 19:45 Charoisaur wrote: I don't quite get sOs' gameplan Force him to build ultralisks, then win because ultras into lose. | ||
Javah
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On September 09 2020 19:45 Charoisaur wrote: I don't quite get sOs' gameplan Me neither. I don't see any possible way for protoss to win in this scenario, especially if sOs doesn't make tempest nor voids. | ||
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seemsgood
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archons cant do shit... | ||
Elentos
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On September 09 2020 19:50 sneakyfox wrote: Interesting choice of point to attack Why would you kill a dozen undefended broods on your side of the map when you can walk into a spore forest | ||
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Charoisaur
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On September 09 2020 19:50 darklycid wrote: Nice lategame there sOs yeah he almost had him | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:51 Teoita wrote: The Artosis curse is real but seriously, why would ANY Protoss choose willingly to play that kind of game? What Artosis curse? sOs lost this by playing what he played. Unless the cure forced him this type of play. | ||
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On September 09 2020 19:52 deacon.frost wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 19:51 Teoita wrote: The Artosis curse is real but seriously, why would ANY Protoss choose willingly to play that kind of game? What Artosis curse? sOs lost this by playing what he played. Unless the cure forced him this type of play. Artosis said sOs is making top 4 this GSL! | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:52 deacon.frost wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 19:51 Teoita wrote: The Artosis curse is real but seriously, why would ANY Protoss choose willingly to play that kind of game? What Artosis curse? sOs lost this by playing what he played. Unless the cure forced him this type of play. I agree, it just so happens that he chose to play that way after Artosis hyped him up | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On September 09 2020 19:52 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 19:52 deacon.frost wrote: On September 09 2020 19:51 Teoita wrote: The Artosis curse is real but seriously, why would ANY Protoss choose willingly to play that kind of game? What Artosis curse? sOs lost this by playing what he played. Unless the cure forced him this type of play. Artosis said sOs is making top 4 this GSL! Yeah, but the army composition was destined to lose once the game shifted into the real lategame. On September 09 2020 19:53 Teoita wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 19:52 deacon.frost wrote: On September 09 2020 19:51 Teoita wrote: The Artosis curse is real but seriously, why would ANY Protoss choose willingly to play that kind of game? What Artosis curse? sOs lost this by playing what he played. Unless the cure forced him this type of play. I agree, it just so happens that he chose to play that way after Artosis hyped him up Well I already pointed that out, that this is the person who was hyped beyong any level by Artosis as the bestest everest and then ... this. | ||
sneakyfox
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On September 09 2020 19:51 Elentos wrote: Why would you kill a dozen undefended broods on your side of the map when you can walk into a spore forest Why indeed. The most disappointing thing was the lack of Tectonic Destabilizer hype. | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
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In fairness, Armani's play has been decent. | ||
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Elentos
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On September 09 2020 20:00 darklycid wrote: Does sOs himself even know what he is doing? It's all fake. | ||
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raga4ka
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seemsgood
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On September 09 2020 19:58 Teoita wrote: Yeah this game is not going to be good either. Rip. well at least we can confirm that the golden armada is still shit despite all the buffs they got recently but the real question is "will uncle blizz finally get it ? " tho | ||
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Charoisaur
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On September 09 2020 20:01 raga4ka wrote: sOs faking air units to force Armani build corruptors, big brain. just forgot that he needs something to counter the corruptors | ||
Elentos
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On September 09 2020 20:02 Andi_Goldberger wrote: man 2020 is not a good time to be an sOs fan What about 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019 tho | ||
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seemsgood
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On September 09 2020 20:01 raga4ka wrote: sOs faking air units to force Armani build corruptors, big brain. you forgot zerg can tech switch in no time :[ | ||
sneakyfox
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On September 09 2020 20:02 seemsgood wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 19:58 Teoita wrote: Yeah this game is not going to be good either. Rip. well at least we can confirm that the golden armada is still shit despite all the buffs they got recently but the real question is "will uncle blizz finally get it ? " tho I really wish they would try to fix PvZ another way instead of bringing the golden armada back. | ||
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He played so bad,his macro was painful,awful decision making and even worse adept harrass.He looked like a gold player. | ||
Penev
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On September 09 2020 20:03 sneakyfox wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 20:02 seemsgood wrote: On September 09 2020 19:58 Teoita wrote: Yeah this game is not going to be good either. Rip. well at least we can confirm that the golden armada is still shit despite all the buffs they got recently but the real question is "will uncle blizz finally get it ? " tho I really wish they would try to fix PvZ another way instead of bringing the golden armada back. Blink disruptors with both the unit and the balls blinkable and cloaked only works on creep | ||
Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
At least I expected that to be terrible. This was a surprise | ||
t5Fab
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On September 09 2020 20:02 Andi_Goldberger wrote: man 2020 is not a good time to be an sOs fan Honestly man, it stopped being good at least 3 years ago | ||
Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
On September 09 2020 20:07 t5Fab wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 20:02 Andi_Goldberger wrote: man 2020 is not a good time to be an sOs fan Honestly man, it stopped being good at least 3 years ago I mean he made blizzcon semis in 2018, after that it was just downhill I feel like | ||
Elentos
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On September 09 2020 20:07 Andi_Goldberger wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 20:07 t5Fab wrote: On September 09 2020 20:02 Andi_Goldberger wrote: man 2020 is not a good time to be an sOs fan Honestly man, it stopped being good at least 3 years ago I mean he made blizzcon semis in 2018, after that it was just downhill I feel like That Ro4 was kind of an accident tbh. He shouldn't have gotten out of the group stage with how he was playing. | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
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On September 09 2020 20:09 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 20:07 Andi_Goldberger wrote: On September 09 2020 20:07 t5Fab wrote: On September 09 2020 20:02 Andi_Goldberger wrote: man 2020 is not a good time to be an sOs fan Honestly man, it stopped being good at least 3 years ago I mean he made blizzcon semis in 2018, after that it was just downhill I feel like That Ro4 was kind of an accident tbh. He shouldn't have gotten out of the group stage with how he was playing. yea but his 3-0 of maru was kind of sick in a clearly sOs fashion, so dirty and satisfying so I remember that year a bit more fondly for sOs. now this gameplay we saw today.... its not dirty and not satisfying at all | ||
seemsgood
5527 Posts
On September 09 2020 20:03 sneakyfox wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 20:02 seemsgood wrote: On September 09 2020 19:58 Teoita wrote: Yeah this game is not going to be good either. Rip. well at least we can confirm that the golden armada is still shit despite all the buffs they got recently but the real question is "will uncle blizz finally get it ? " tho I really wish they would try to fix PvZ another way instead of bringing the golden armada back. but mass BCs and airtoss are my all time favorite strats since BW ;p in sc2 they gave no decent ground to air options so mass air vs mass air is the only way and thus capital ships of protoss and terran got a really bad rap | ||
sneakyfox
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On September 09 2020 20:06 Penev wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 20:03 sneakyfox wrote: On September 09 2020 20:02 seemsgood wrote: On September 09 2020 19:58 Teoita wrote: Yeah this game is not going to be good either. Rip. well at least we can confirm that the golden armada is still shit despite all the buffs they got recently but the real question is "will uncle blizz finally get it ? " tho I really wish they would try to fix PvZ another way instead of bringing the golden armada back. Blink disruptors with both the unit and the balls blinkable and cloaked only works on creep hahaha So many patches trying to fix it. And in the end the solution is so simply | ||
La1
United Kingdom654 Posts
Vipers are insanely strong, Infestors are just as bad.. and the mothership feels like a flying liability. | ||
Wintex
Norway16827 Posts
On September 09 2020 20:19 sneakyfox wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 20:06 Penev wrote: On September 09 2020 20:03 sneakyfox wrote: On September 09 2020 20:02 seemsgood wrote: On September 09 2020 19:58 Teoita wrote: Yeah this game is not going to be good either. Rip. well at least we can confirm that the golden armada is still shit despite all the buffs they got recently but the real question is "will uncle blizz finally get it ? " tho I really wish they would try to fix PvZ another way instead of bringing the golden armada back. Blink disruptors with both the unit and the balls blinkable and cloaked only works on creep hahaha So many patches trying to fix it. And in the end the solution is so simply When the solution has been to go back, delete stuff, or rethink their own philosophy, Blizzard has never liked solving their problems :p | ||
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Penev
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On September 09 2020 20:19 sneakyfox wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 20:06 Penev wrote: On September 09 2020 20:03 sneakyfox wrote: On September 09 2020 20:02 seemsgood wrote: On September 09 2020 19:58 Teoita wrote: Yeah this game is not going to be good either. Rip. well at least we can confirm that the golden armada is still shit despite all the buffs they got recently but the real question is "will uncle blizz finally get it ? " tho I really wish they would try to fix PvZ another way instead of bringing the golden armada back. Blink disruptors with both the unit and the balls blinkable and cloaked only works on creep hahaha So many patches trying to fix it. And in the end the solution is so simply Would be funny to have Protoss units perform better on creep but on a more serious note; It's kinda strange, and I saw you comment on this as well a while back, that they haven't explored zerg stuff being less effective against shields yet | ||
sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On September 09 2020 20:25 Penev wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 20:19 sneakyfox wrote: On September 09 2020 20:06 Penev wrote: On September 09 2020 20:03 sneakyfox wrote: On September 09 2020 20:02 seemsgood wrote: On September 09 2020 19:58 Teoita wrote: Yeah this game is not going to be good either. Rip. well at least we can confirm that the golden armada is still shit despite all the buffs they got recently but the real question is "will uncle blizz finally get it ? " tho I really wish they would try to fix PvZ another way instead of bringing the golden armada back. Blink disruptors with both the unit and the balls blinkable and cloaked only works on creep hahaha So many patches trying to fix it. And in the end the solution is so simply Would be funny to have Protoss units perform better on creep but on a more serious note; It's kinda strange, and I saw you comment on this as well a while back, that they haven't explored zerg stuff being less effective against shields yet Yea, that would be the obvious place to look if you want to fix PvZ without touching ZvT. The idea of looking at dmg vs mechanical is also interesting imo. Right now it looks like banelings and vipers are the zerg units that are too strong and blizz could try to fix them, but really it's about the zerg economy right? So in the end maybe they should take on the big challenge of fixing the main problem instead of tinkering with units. | ||
sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On September 09 2020 20:15 seemsgood wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 20:03 sneakyfox wrote: On September 09 2020 20:02 seemsgood wrote: On September 09 2020 19:58 Teoita wrote: Yeah this game is not going to be good either. Rip. well at least we can confirm that the golden armada is still shit despite all the buffs they got recently but the real question is "will uncle blizz finally get it ? " tho I really wish they would try to fix PvZ another way instead of bringing the golden armada back. but mass BCs and airtoss are my all time favorite strats since BW ;p in sc2 they gave no decent ground to air options so mass air vs mass air is the only way and thus capital ships of protoss and terran got a really bad rap On September 09 2020 20:23 darklycid wrote: I agree tho golden armada vs zergs bl/viper/infestor/corruptor/spore is really not that cool to watch even if it was more even, i really wish blizz would add some stuff to counter air+support that isn't air itself (or leads to mass air vs mass air and support). The Colossus headbutt ability has been suggested for a long time now, what is blizzard waiting for? | ||
Penev
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On September 09 2020 20:30 sneakyfox wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 20:15 seemsgood wrote: On September 09 2020 20:03 sneakyfox wrote: On September 09 2020 20:02 seemsgood wrote: On September 09 2020 19:58 Teoita wrote: Yeah this game is not going to be good either. Rip. well at least we can confirm that the golden armada is still shit despite all the buffs they got recently but the real question is "will uncle blizz finally get it ? " tho I really wish they would try to fix PvZ another way instead of bringing the golden armada back. but mass BCs and airtoss are my all time favorite strats since BW ;p in sc2 they gave no decent ground to air options so mass air vs mass air is the only way and thus capital ships of protoss and terran got a really bad rap Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 20:23 darklycid wrote: I agree tho golden armada vs zergs bl/viper/infestor/corruptor/spore is really not that cool to watch even if it was more even, i really wish blizz would add some stuff to counter air+support that isn't air itself (or leads to mass air vs mass air and support). The Colossus headbutt ability has been suggested for a long time now, what is blizzard waiting for? It's absurd it's still not implemented. Give it a bonus vs biological and voila solved | ||
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sneakyfox
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On September 09 2020 20:33 Penev wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 20:30 sneakyfox wrote: On September 09 2020 20:15 seemsgood wrote: On September 09 2020 20:03 sneakyfox wrote: On September 09 2020 20:02 seemsgood wrote: On September 09 2020 19:58 Teoita wrote: Yeah this game is not going to be good either. Rip. well at least we can confirm that the golden armada is still shit despite all the buffs they got recently but the real question is "will uncle blizz finally get it ? " tho I really wish they would try to fix PvZ another way instead of bringing the golden armada back. but mass BCs and airtoss are my all time favorite strats since BW ;p in sc2 they gave no decent ground to air options so mass air vs mass air is the only way and thus capital ships of protoss and terran got a really bad rap On September 09 2020 20:23 darklycid wrote: I agree tho golden armada vs zergs bl/viper/infestor/corruptor/spore is really not that cool to watch even if it was more even, i really wish blizz would add some stuff to counter air+support that isn't air itself (or leads to mass air vs mass air and support). The Colossus headbutt ability has been suggested for a long time now, what is blizzard waiting for? It's absurd it's still not implemented. Give it a bonus vs biological and voila solved And splash, right? I dare you to clump up those corruptors again you dirty zerg. Just imagine the animation when the Colossus headbutts ten corruptors to death. Bug goo dripping down the shiny protoss metal and everything | ||
seemsgood
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why dont zerg players take moar shitty fight like this in lotv ?? | ||
sneakyfox
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I betted sOs, not too happy about that anymore... | ||
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On September 09 2020 20:47 swarminfestor wrote: With DRG in his team, Armani can get a decent chance to advance to Ro.16. Considering how sOs and Bomber looked he's on a good way to the RO16 unless the | ||
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On September 09 2020 20:56 sneakyfox wrote: Tfw you realize that the reason zergs stopped using nydushost was not that it became bad, it's just that they have so many other options. Zerg in a nutshell tbh. | ||
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Charoisaur
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On September 09 2020 20:56 sneakyfox wrote: Tfw you realize that the reason zergs stopped using nydushost was not that it became bad, it's just that they have so many other options. they stopped using it because it's not that good against battlemech which every mech player should start with. | ||
seemsgood
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secure a better economy and less vulnerable to runby and SHs | ||
Elentos
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On September 09 2020 20:56 sneakyfox wrote: Tfw you realize that the reason zergs stopped using nydushost was not that it became bad, it's just that they have so many other options. Well also most common mech openers are BC into battle mech which is much better against nydus SH because of the mobility. | ||
raga4ka
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On September 09 2020 20:56 deacon.frost wrote: And both Bomber and sOs are so dead and not in RO16 sOs I think has better chances to win against a Terran then against a zerg. | ||
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seemsgood
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On September 09 2020 20:56 sneakyfox wrote: Tfw you realize that the reason zergs stopped using nydushost was not that it became bad, it's just that they have so many other options. i believe they are lowkey bonker strong in ZvP but they are kinda obsolete in TvZ tho | ||
sneakyfox
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On September 09 2020 20:57 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 20:56 sneakyfox wrote: Tfw you realize that the reason zergs stopped using nydushost was not that it became bad, it's just that they have so many other options. they stopped using it because it's not that good against battlemech which every mech player should start with. On September 09 2020 20:57 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 20:56 sneakyfox wrote: Tfw you realize that the reason zergs stopped using nydushost was not that it became bad, it's just that they have so many other options. Well also most common mech openers are BC into battle mech which is much better against nydus SH because of the mobility. Fair point. I was mostly referring to the nerfs to nydus. | ||
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On September 09 2020 20:59 darklycid wrote: sOs now gonna void ray proxy into ro16 I hope he beats Cure with the weirdest shit possible, just because WTF was Cure doing. On September 09 2020 20:40 sneakyfox wrote: This is also the first group this liquibet season where both players to advance are not completely obvious. Cure was safe, of course, but the other one not. I betted sOs, not too happy about that anymore... Getting nervous? | ||
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sneakyfox
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On September 09 2020 21:00 deacon.frost wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 20:40 sneakyfox wrote: This is also the first group this liquibet season where both players to advance are not completely obvious. Cure was safe, of course, but the other one not. I betted sOs, not too happy about that anymore... Getting nervous? Yea, sOs is not playing well but there is always some crazy shit that he can pull in PvT. Plus it's almost a team kill, we all know sOs lives inside the brains of his teammates. | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On September 09 2020 21:16 blooblooblahblah wrote: LOL idk why i found this so funny but Bomber putting a liberation zone on his main ramp made me chuckle cos i bet that's something people do in low leagues cos they expand so slow.. For lower leagues stuff you need 2 or 3 tanks in the background, roughly 2 bunkers on each side of the rax and around 6 supply depots around there so it's beefy. Then you go for cattlebruisers, because screw liberators. | ||
MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
Glad I LB'd Armani. Did not expect him to advance first but happy for him, good job. | ||
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MrCon
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What TL article was Artosis talking about ? | ||
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On September 09 2020 21:26 MrCon wrote: Hi TL o/ What TL article was Artosis talking about ? https://tl.net/forum/final-edits/221896-the-elephant-in-the-room | ||
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royalroadweed
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On September 09 2020 21:28 Sif_ wrote: I loved this build back in WoL, back when the thor had that machinegun-like spell to gun down a single immortal lol They missed so much when it could have been weilding a giant hammer and could have been the hammer splashing enemies! | ||
seemsgood
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On September 09 2020 21:31 deacon.frost wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 21:28 Sif_ wrote: I loved this build back in WoL, back when the thor had that machinegun-like spell to gun down a single immortal lol They missed so much when it could have been weilding a giant hammer and could have been the hammer splashing enemies! they are unworthy thors :[ | ||
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WTCO
United States646 Posts
On September 09 2020 21:35 Schelim wrote: wtf was Bomber doing? Trying to out-sOs sOs. | ||
Javah
France739 Posts
edit: aaand it's Cure doing shenanigans XD edit2: wtf is going on with GSL today ahahah | ||
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On September 09 2020 21:43 darklycid wrote: Terrns today not giving sOs the opportunity to show his bad macro gameplay If you give sOs blink DTs he suddenly becomes scary | ||
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edit: nope, but maybe voids :D scouted | ||
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On September 09 2020 21:53 Wombat_NI_Again wrote: Come on Cure don’t ruin my debut in Liquibets Armani bloody delivered on my faith next name change when | ||
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On September 09 2020 21:55 Penev wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 21:53 Wombat_NI_Again wrote: Come on Cure don’t ruin my debut in Liquibets Armani bloody delivered on my faith next name change when Changing names more often than SpeCial changes teams | ||
MrCon
France29748 Posts
On September 09 2020 21:27 sneakyfox wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 21:26 MrCon wrote: Hi TL o/ What TL article was Artosis talking about ? https://tl.net/forum/final-edits/221896-the-elephant-in-the-room Ho, this one, thanks ! | ||
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Elentos
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On September 09 2020 21:55 Penev wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 21:53 Wombat_NI_Again wrote: Come on Cure don’t ruin my debut in Liquibets Armani bloody delivered on my faith next name change when Most people with that many posts don't even get 1 name change! | ||
sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On September 09 2020 21:56 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 21:55 Penev wrote: On September 09 2020 21:53 Wombat_NI_Again wrote: Come on Cure don’t ruin my debut in Liquibets Armani bloody delivered on my faith next name change when Most people with that many posts don't even get 1 name change! And you have to think he'll get tired of the "again" at some point | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On September 09 2020 21:56 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 21:55 Penev wrote: On September 09 2020 21:53 Wombat_NI_Again wrote: Come on Cure don’t ruin my debut in Liquibets Armani bloody delivered on my faith next name change when Most people with that many posts don't even get 1 name change! Why? Don't tell me that the poster name is the key and saved in every post | ||
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On September 09 2020 22:01 Penev wrote: Cure contemplating if he should try and cheese again "he'll never see it coming" | ||
Elentos
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On September 09 2020 21:58 deacon.frost wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 21:56 Elentos wrote: On September 09 2020 21:55 Penev wrote: On September 09 2020 21:53 Wombat_NI_Again wrote: Come on Cure don’t ruin my debut in Liquibets Armani bloody delivered on my faith next name change when Most people with that many posts don't even get 1 name change! Why? Don't tell me that the poster name is the key and saved in every post https://tl.net/forum/website-feedback/3398-the-change-my-name-topic#1 1. If you have more than 500 posts, don't bother asking. Thankfully 500 is bigger than 13000. | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland20507 Posts
On September 09 2020 21:56 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 21:55 Penev wrote: On September 09 2020 21:53 Wombat_NI_Again wrote: Come on Cure don’t ruin my debut in Liquibets Armani bloody delivered on my faith next name change when Most people with that many posts don't even get 1 name change! I didn’t know that was a rule! I requested to revert to my OG name, it’s those mischievous mods who added the again this time around haha, probably to punish me for transgressing. | ||
Javah
France739 Posts
On September 09 2020 22:01 Penev wrote: Cure contemplating if he should try and cheese again Probably the best way to get out of the tournament :D Cure must know he only has to scout properly and the rest should be quite fine. | ||
seemsgood
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On September 09 2020 22:00 Javah wrote: Where we see that sOs has almost zero chance against Cure in a straight-up game TT and yet dude chose to proxy him in game 1 ;O | ||
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deacon.frost
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On September 09 2020 22:02 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 21:58 deacon.frost wrote: On September 09 2020 21:56 Elentos wrote: On September 09 2020 21:55 Penev wrote: On September 09 2020 21:53 Wombat_NI_Again wrote: Come on Cure don’t ruin my debut in Liquibets Armani bloody delivered on my faith next name change when Most people with that many posts don't even get 1 name change! Why? Don't tell me that the poster name is the key and saved in every post https://tl.net/forum/website-feedback/3398-the-change-my-name-topic#1 Thankfully 500 is bigger than 13000. Technically he's still Wombat, so maybe if the change is minor it would be accepted? Maybe if I opted for something like CZE_deacon.frost_666 it would have been accepted(don't do it!) | ||
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On September 09 2020 22:03 Luolis wrote: Why the hell do protoss prioritize weapons upgrades over armor if theyre going mass zealot :D He was already thinking bout the colossus | ||
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deacon.frost
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On September 09 2020 22:03 Luolis wrote: Why the hell do protoss prioritize weapons upgrades over armor if theyre going mass zealot :D It's easier to remember and works in every MU. Also moar damage while you can supplement the armor with the guardian shield. | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland20507 Posts
On September 09 2020 22:03 Luolis wrote: Why the hell do protoss prioritize weapons upgrades over armor if theyre going mass zealot :D If they’re sOs? That said I’m struggling to see the rationale, maybe his original plan was getting +1 attack off his stalkers and going into Collosus, but he had to change plan after they got massacred? | ||
Luolis
Finland6995 Posts
On September 09 2020 22:04 deacon.frost wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 22:03 Luolis wrote: Why the hell do protoss prioritize weapons upgrades over armor if theyre going mass zealot :D It's easier to remember and works in every MU. Also moar damage while you can supplement the armor with the guardian shield. Sure, but zealots have insanely more value vs terran if you go for armor upgrades first. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On September 09 2020 22:06 Luolis wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 22:04 deacon.frost wrote: On September 09 2020 22:03 Luolis wrote: Why the hell do protoss prioritize weapons upgrades over armor if theyre going mass zealot :D It's easier to remember and works in every MU. Also moar damage while you can supplement the armor with the guardian shield. Sure, but zealots have insanely more value vs terran if you go for armor upgrades first. I know, I still remember the charge-archon build with +2 armor and guardian shield push BTW the rename, I checked the thread and it appears the _again was Seeker's idea | ||
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On September 09 2020 22:08 Fuell wrote: sOs feels like such a plat player atm lol It's quite sad to see him playing like that... edit : and he's out :/ | ||
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Fuell
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WombaT
Northern Ireland20507 Posts
On September 09 2020 22:09 Javah wrote: It's quite sad to see him playing like that... It’s, strange as yes it’s only ladder but apparently he’s been tearing it up there lately, so he’s at least in some kind of shape. Today he was just pretty bad all-round | ||
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On September 09 2020 22:14 Elentos wrote: sOs has 2 series wins in Code S this year and advanced 0 rounds, yikes. It's hard not to worry for his career. Another Korean toss retiring too soon. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On September 09 2020 22:15 sneakyfox wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 22:14 Elentos wrote: sOs has 2 series wins in Code S this year and advanced 0 rounds, yikes. It's hard not to worry for his career. Another Korean toss retiring too soon. Technically we lost sOs with LotV, he had some brighter moments but since the switch it was mostly bad sadly | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland20507 Posts
On September 09 2020 22:08 deacon.frost wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 22:06 Luolis wrote: On September 09 2020 22:04 deacon.frost wrote: On September 09 2020 22:03 Luolis wrote: Why the hell do protoss prioritize weapons upgrades over armor if theyre going mass zealot :D It's easier to remember and works in every MU. Also moar damage while you can supplement the armor with the guardian shield. Sure, but zealots have insanely more value vs terran if you go for armor upgrades first. I know, I still remember the charge-archon build with +2 armor and guardian shield push BTW the rename, I checked the thread and it appears the _again was Seeker's idea That build was like switching on power overwhelming temporarily, your units just take no damage whatsoever. That Seeker fellow Speaking of seeking I need to find the original Wombat and consume his | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On September 09 2020 23:09 Geo.Rion wrote: I absolutely love how Artosis called sOs finishing top 4 this season before he got completly destroyed by Armani and then Cure :D Every single Code S is the same. I dont get where this faith in sOs keeps coming from. He has been abysmal for years now. | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On September 09 2020 23:11 MarianoSC2 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2020 23:09 Geo.Rion wrote: I absolutely love how Artosis called sOs finishing top 4 this season before he got completly destroyed by Armani and then Cure :D Every single Code S is the same. I dont get where this faith in sOs keeps coming from. He has been abysmal for years now. Donor some monies to the Pylon show and ask a question there. Or make somebody do that I wonder what happens with sOs, he has 1 tournament to go(ST #2) and then the negotiating about the next season starts... | ||
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Cricketer12
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1654 Posts
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Niravroh
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On September 10 2020 08:21 ShowTheLights wrote: How were the games today? It was kinda cool watching Cure outclass Bomber, in kind of a "How many times do I need to teach you this lesson old man" old Terran vs new Terran showcase. It was also cool watching Armani get out first, as it was such an unexpected result. Other than that, the games were kinda just bad, esp the sOs games, unfortunately. | ||
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