Greatest Map of All Time Tournament - Page 15

On August 06 2020 20:20 Zzzapper wrote:
Abyssal Reef was bit unlucky with the bracket, I think it would've made it over a few of the other maps that did make it to the quarterfinals. I voted Abyssal but I also think that Whirlwind is the greatest 4 player map of all time so it would be nice to see it place higher than TDA.

I hope Blizzard realizes how much people appreciate Golden Wall and let it stay in the pool for the whole year. I just checked liquipedia and the last map that got 4 seasons was Abyssal Reef which was well deserved for the undisputed 2017 map of the year. I think Golden Wall is in a similar spot now with the games we're getting on it, although it's obviously a lot more unconventional than Abyssal.

On August 06 2020 21:08 Superouman wrote:
Blizz do not keep maps for more than two seasons except rare exceptions like Eternal Empire.

So don't worry, Golden Wall will be removed off the ladder next season.

On August 06 2020 21:19 Elentos wrote:

If it's not on ladder it will constantly get vetoed cause nobody has regular practice on it.

On August 06 2020 21:08 Superouman wrote:
Blizz do not keep maps for more than two seasons except rare exceptions like Eternal Empire.

So don't worry, Golden Wall will be removed off the ladder next season.

On August 06 2020 22:31 Wombat_NI wrote:
Come on Blizz do what I’ve suggested and add a bigger map pool with more vetoes for ladder!

I think it solves a lot of issues. Regular grinders who get sick of the rotation get more variety. There’s more space for a few experimental maps. Also there tends to be that one or two really stand out, balanced and top tier standard map that should really stick around but gets rotated out.

Say if you had a 14 map pool with 4 vetoes, after 2-3 seasons you’d have a map pool with the best of multiple seasons in terms of maps.

Anyway that aside fellow TLers, what would it take outside of altering the mineral patches to make some of these classic maps playable in Legacy?

The return of the prestigious Team Liquid Live Report Starleague on the top end of the GMOAT?

On August 07 2020 00:07 ZigguratOfUr wrote:


Larger map pool has been suggested before but apparently Blizz only has limited resources to QA maps which is why they stick to the current number. The only hope for more dynamic map pools would be ESL switching things up (which wouldn't be bad since they have so much more flexibility with swapping maps in and out). Also all the classic ladder maps would have already had their minerals altered when LotV launched (there might be other stuff like broken liberator spots but probably not a big deal overall).

On August 07 2020 00:32 Wombat_NI wrote:

That doesn’t really make much sense to me though.

They rotate out tried and tested maps to freshen things up, which requires more QA when they’re completely changing the pool.

If you keep more maps that have already undergone rigorous testing and have the best balance stats etc from being in ladder rotation how is that more QA work?

On August 07 2020 00:57 Acrofales wrote:


Or you can rotate proven maps back in. This is maybe not good with non-standard maps, but there isn't really much reason why you need a new macro map every time, rather than rotating previous favourites back in again. Especially as the meta having changed means games will play out quite different (although it's entirely possible that some things that were balanced 3 years ago are now considered broken).

On August 07 2020 01:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:


Honestly I feel like most maps overstay their welcome already as is so bringing back more favourites would just mean more of the same. How many times did we all see the exact same game play out on Nightshade or Abyssal Reef? There are very few maps that stay interesting more than a season (and quite a few maps start out as uninteresting since it's stuff we've seen a dozen times already).