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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
May 24 2020 20:30 GMT
#161
I love how decisive Elazer is. "Oh, an opening!" -> "Go, attack, now, everything, HM needs to lose."
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
May 24 2020 20:32 GMT
#162
Elazer doesn't give a fuck, who is the more hyped player! lol.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4949 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-24 20:34:33
May 24 2020 20:34 GMT
#163
this reminds me of Maru vs Serral at WESG

Edit: except of course, that Maru came back and won .
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
May 24 2020 20:34 GMT
#164
GGs today.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
May 24 2020 20:34 GMT
#165
A really onesided series in the end, even in game 1 he looked good for a while. gg
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
May 24 2020 20:35 GMT
#166
nice tactic choices heromarine "facepalm"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-24 20:37:09
May 24 2020 20:36 GMT
#167
With how late that 3rd hatch was HM must have thought it's 2 hatch spire or something but didn't try to confirm. I mean Elazer tried to hide it but Gabe should have known something was up. And then he let the roaches into his main immediately. I think today we didn't see the best of him.

Elazer meanwhile continues to show the good form he showed in the StayAtHSC.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
May 24 2020 20:45 GMT
#168
Really underwhelming day overall :/
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-24 20:47:58
May 24 2020 20:46 GMT
#169
Nice, we have a lot of KR vs EU+SpeCial matches !

Today lower bracket was ok imo.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 24 2020 21:48 GMT
#170
Can't beleive we lost Vania for this
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
May 24 2020 22:12 GMT
#171
hello,; Is there VOd for Cure vs INno?
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 24 2020 22:28 GMT
#172
Yes, on teamliquid twitch channel.
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
May 24 2020 23:18 GMT
#173
Serral got patched into irrelevance.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
May 24 2020 23:22 GMT
#174
On May 25 2020 08:18 Morbidius wrote:
Serral got patched into irrelevance.


Pretty sure you are baiting, but the patch isnt live yet. Besides hes been losing zvz's. Dunno what the patch has to do with that. Anyhow, it was inevitable he would drop out early in a tournament someday. Hes not a robot after all.
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5440 Posts
May 24 2020 23:24 GMT
#175
Serral needs to play more standard again :/
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44452 Posts
May 24 2020 23:44 GMT
#176
On May 25 2020 08:18 Morbidius wrote:
Serral got patched into irrelevance.


A Zerg who lost 2 ZvZs, and couldn't even reach the Koreans through the foreigners? Don't blame the patch. Serral went 1-2 in series, all ZvZ. Really disappointing performance, but he's Serral; he'll bounce back. Everyone has a bad showing every once in a while; it's natural. Don't blame Blizzard.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-25 00:09:03
May 24 2020 23:49 GMT
#177
On May 25 2020 08:22 ilax30 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2020 08:18 Morbidius wrote:
Serral got patched into irrelevance.


the patch isnt live yet.

Doesn't take 2, one is enough.
On May 25 2020 08:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2020 08:18 Morbidius wrote:
Serral got patched into irrelevance.


A Zerg who lost 2 ZvZs


Why would we believe he can take on Korean T and P now that losing to foreigner zergs is the rule not the exception? Probably was in Ence's office this week to discuss his salary cut.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44452 Posts
May 25 2020 00:24 GMT
#178
On May 25 2020 08:49 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2020 08:22 ilax30 wrote:
On May 25 2020 08:18 Morbidius wrote:
Serral got patched into irrelevance.


the patch isnt live yet.

Doesn't take 2, one is enough.
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2020 08:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 25 2020 08:18 Morbidius wrote:
Serral got patched into irrelevance.


A Zerg who lost 2 ZvZs


Why would we believe he can take on Korean T and P now that losing to foreigner zergs is the rule not the exception? Probably was in Ence's office this week to discuss his salary cut.


Your sample size of three series in just one tournament is way, way too low to assert that Serral will no longer be relevant across any high-level ZvX match-up. The Zergs, overall, have been performing reasonably well this tournament; Please explain how Serral has been uniquely "patched into irrelevance" when the other Zergs seem to be doing just fine. Why hasn't the patch applied to anyone else?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-25 01:08:11
May 25 2020 00:41 GMT
#179
On May 25 2020 09:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2020 08:49 Morbidius wrote:
On May 25 2020 08:22 ilax30 wrote:
On May 25 2020 08:18 Morbidius wrote:
Serral got patched into irrelevance.


the patch isnt live yet.

Doesn't take 2, one is enough.
On May 25 2020 08:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 25 2020 08:18 Morbidius wrote:
Serral got patched into irrelevance.


A Zerg who lost 2 ZvZs


Why would we believe he can take on Korean T and P now that losing to foreigner zergs is the rule not the exception? Probably was in Ence's office this week to discuss his salary cut.


Your sample size of three series in just one tournament is way, way too low to assert that Serral will no longer be relevant across any high-level ZvX match-up. The Zergs, overall, have been performing reasonably well this tournament; Please explain how Serral has been uniquely "patched into irrelevance" when the other Zergs seem to be doing just fine. Why hasn't the patch applied to anyone else?

Other players have playstyle ranges and nuances, the Idraesque mindset of ''I'll just defend and macro up and all will be fine'' is outdated and only works for broken races in broken metas.If you want an idea of how Serral will perform from now on you can look at his single second place at WCS foreigner welfare in 2017 to have a clear picture in your mind, since you obviously can't grasp what is happening here.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
May 25 2020 01:39 GMT
#180
On May 25 2020 09:41 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2020 09:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 25 2020 08:49 Morbidius wrote:
On May 25 2020 08:22 ilax30 wrote:
On May 25 2020 08:18 Morbidius wrote:
Serral got patched into irrelevance.


the patch isnt live yet.

Doesn't take 2, one is enough.
On May 25 2020 08:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 25 2020 08:18 Morbidius wrote:
Serral got patched into irrelevance.


A Zerg who lost 2 ZvZs


Why would we believe he can take on Korean T and P now that losing to foreigner zergs is the rule not the exception? Probably was in Ence's office this week to discuss his salary cut.


Your sample size of three series in just one tournament is way, way too low to assert that Serral will no longer be relevant across any high-level ZvX match-up. The Zergs, overall, have been performing reasonably well this tournament; Please explain how Serral has been uniquely "patched into irrelevance" when the other Zergs seem to be doing just fine. Why hasn't the patch applied to anyone else?

Other players have playstyle ranges and nuances, the Idraesque mindset of ''I'll just defend and macro up and all will be fine'' is outdated and only works for broken races in broken metas.If you want an idea of how Serral will perform from now on you can look at his single second place at WCS foreigner welfare in 2017 to have a clear picture in your mind since you obviously can't grasp what is happening here.


I knew that Serral irremediably shattered your dreams of eternal korean domination over Sc2 and that you'll never recover from that.
However, that's not a good reason to blindly hate and overtly lie like you have been doing in almost every post involving Serral you made recently.

Serral reached his peak in the second half of 2018 when he(not the Zerg race, who went extinct in GSL in that period very much unlike a "broken race" you speak of should do) could comfortably win any lategame with his superior macro and multitasking and was impervious to any cheese due to his superior scouting; you should be glad that the meta shifted, and it's objectively good for Sc2 because Serral was just winning every series and every tournament when that was the case.

Serral played more aggressively throughout 2019(making good use of nyduses, for example) and he still won the most titles out of any player last year.
Now he has been experimenting with even more aggressive(and very dubious) builds, ending up losing ZvZ against players who are very good at it; I want to underline that koreans have not had the upper hand in the matchup in the last yead and half and, conversely, results suggest that, when evenly matched, foreigners seem to perform better.

You deliberately forget that no player has been more consistent than Serral since 2018. To name a few, Rogue had very disappointing results in 2019 before the Code S season he won and that Innovation even failed to qualify for BlizzCon; not for one moment you doubted they still were top tier players and now you would want us to believe that Serral will be back to his pre godlike status after he lost 2-3 twice in three games? His last comparable early exit is dated October 2017, and two years and half are eons in Sc2.

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