EPT[GSL 2020] Super Tournament 1 - Day 3 - Page 18
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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stilt
France2750 Posts
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JJH777
United States4413 Posts
On March 25 2020 22:56 Xain0n wrote: No, I am implying I wanted a specific player to win(Cure). Now that he's out, I would be glad to see Trap triumphant but his current PvZ seems terrible. Dark winning two consecutive Super Tournaments would be boring imho, I wouldn't mind a Maru victory If I wouldn't have to witness 20 pages of comments about how godlike he is. Being the only reason Terran exists at the pro level for 2.5 years does that. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 26 2020 02:20 JJH777 wrote: Being the only reason Terran exists at the pro level for 2.5 years does that. A perfect example of what I meant! Maru has been by far the best Terran in the last two years but you can't forget Inno winning WESG, TY's finals in Code S(stopped by Maru) and Super Tournament, Gumiho's final in Super Tournament. | ||
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Athenau
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On March 26 2020 02:40 Athenau wrote: Rooting for another ZvZ finals so we can get a complete comment shitshow. Some men, just want to watch the world burn. BTW. EXTREMELY small chance Solar beats Maru. Nowhere near the caliber Zerg that Maru should lose to. That said, that lack of quality might be exactly why Maru loses. He is a Prime Terran after all. We'll see. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On March 26 2020 02:40 Athenau wrote: Rooting for another ZvZ finals so we can get a complete comment shitshow. There's a big chance that it will be win by zerg, isn't that enough? | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On March 26 2020 02:49 Vindicare605 wrote: Some men, just want to watch the world burn. BTW. EXTREMELY small chance Solar beats Maru. Nowhere near the caliber Zerg that Maru should lose to. That said, that lack of quality might be exactly why Maru loses. He is a Prime Terran after all. We'll see. Dunno Solar handled Cure pretty well, so there's a chance. Plus Maru is still 0-15 in reaching the final of Korean weekenders  | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On March 26 2020 03:31 Nakajin wrote: Dunno Solar handled Cure pretty well, so there's a chance. Plus Maru is still 0-15 in reaching the final of Korean weekenders I dont even want to acknowledge this statistic with a response. | ||
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JJH777
United States4413 Posts
On March 26 2020 02:34 Xain0n wrote: A perfect example of what I meant! Maru has been by far the best Terran in the last two years but you can't forget Inno winning WESG, TY's finals in Code S(stopped by Maru) and Super Tournament, Gumiho's final in Super Tournament. The fact that you can only come up with 4 good Terran results for a 30 month period just shows I'm right. | ||
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Aunvilgodess
954 Posts
On March 26 2020 02:34 Xain0n wrote: A perfect example of what I meant! Maru has been by far the best Terran in the last two years but you can't forget Inno winning WESG, TY's finals in Code S(stopped by Maru) and Super Tournament, Gumiho's final in Super Tournament. Looking at the opponents Inno faced at WESG I am doing a fantastic job forgetting that. He beat 2! people that were on the same level. Thats like winning Code S after being seeded into the quarter finals. Thats like, not wow. | ||
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Moonerz
United States449 Posts
On March 26 2020 03:31 Nakajin wrote: Dunno Solar handled Cure pretty well, so there's a chance. Plus Maru is still 0-15 in reaching the final of Korean weekenders Good thing this isn't really a weekender then | ||
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Aunvilgodess
954 Posts
On March 25 2020 21:14 Xain0n wrote: Sc2 is mean to me in this 2020. Maru can definitely beat Solar and Dark; at this point, I would love to see Trap win, but his PvZ is so absymal... Dark has way better chances than Trap. He is immune to the bullshit because he all-ins the Prototoss while macroing behind it. Haha I wrote Prototoss | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On March 26 2020 04:14 JJH777 wrote: The fact that you can only come up with 4 good Terran results for a 30 month period just shows I'm right. Haha, exactly, a perfect example how to shoot yourself in the foot. Xain0n's special  And mentioning WESG is just super pathetic. In that case, lets count foreign land tournaments as well, how are Terrans doing there? | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
The finals however can be really good. Lets not forget that this is not a weekender, Maru has prep time and he only needs to prepare 1 matchup. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On March 26 2020 05:58 MarianoSC2 wrote: On another note, the semifinals will probably be boring. I just cant trust Traps PvZ at all, and all Maru needs to do to 3:0 Solar is proxy racks so that one will be over in like 15 minutes total time. The finals however can be really good. Lets not forget that this is not a weekender, Maru has prep time and he only needs to prepare 1 matchup. If we get Dark vs Maru, the Finals are guaranteed to be good. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 26 2020 04:14 JJH777 wrote: The fact that you can only come up with 4 good Terran results for a 30 month period just shows I'm right. What do you mean? Terran does just fine, special, heromarine and time made ro4 in wcs! Special even the finals once! | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On March 26 2020 04:14 JJH777 wrote: The fact that you can only come up with 4 good Terran results for a 30 month period just shows I'm right. Let's remove Maru as a statistic outlier and see what happens Considering he's bad in TvT it shouldn't hurt other Terrans and their results, or...? | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 26 2020 05:51 MarianoSC2 wrote: Haha, exactly, a perfect example how to shoot yourself in the foot. Xain0n's special And mentioning WESG is just super pathetic. In that case, lets count foreign land tournaments as well, how are Terrans doing there? Your elitism is super pathetic. 2018 would have been a good year for Protoss if Serral and Maru didn't beat them repeatedly and 2019 was just the most Zerg infested year in the history of Sc2(with one month of Protoss doing decently leading to open revolt just to made them nerfed to nothingness); still, Terran won more than Protoss. Maru is responsible for the majority of those titles, you can't expect many more names but there are, just as I showed you. Thinking that Maru is the ONLY one who made Terran competitive at pro level is a stretch to say the least; that idea perfectly fits the narrative of Maru as the Favored Child(partly reasonable) and Terran as the neglected, unplayable race that only gods can lead to victory(mostly delusion) so many on this forum are very fond of. What is true is that Maru is incredibly skilled and one of the best Terran ever and that Terran has been the weakest, still perfectly competitive, race most of the times since 2018. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 26 2020 06:37 Xain0n wrote: Your elitism is super pathetic. 2018 would have been a good year for Protoss if Serral and Maru didn't beat them repeatedly and 2019 was just the most Zerg infested year in the history of Sc2(with one month of Protoss doing decently leading to open revolt just to made them nerfed to nothingness); still, Terran won more than Protoss. Maru is responsible for the majority of those titles, you can't expect many more names but there are, just as I showed you. Thinking that Maru is the ONLY one who made Terran competitive at pro level is a stretch to say the least; that idea perfectly fits the narrative of Maru as the Favored Child(partly reasonable) and Terran as the neglected, unplayable race that only gods can lead to victory(mostly delusion) so many on this forum are very fond of. What is true is that Maru is incredibly skilled and one of the best Terran ever and that Terran has been the weakest, still perfectly competitive, race most of the times since 2018. Without counting wcs (because it doesn't allow the actual best terrans/players), in 24 premier tournaments terran players made the ro4 10 times (5 times maru), 2nd place 4 times (no maru) and 1st place 7 times (5 times maru). This includes GPC season 1 (which shouldn't be counted tbh) and IEM pyongchang (probably neither), Without these it's ro4 5/8 maru and 5/6 1st places in 22 tournaments. Pls tell me more about this competitive race | ||
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