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GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
710 Posts
March 01 2020 11:47 GMT
#401
On March 01 2020 20:45 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 20:43 Bourgeois wrote:
On March 01 2020 06:12 Pandemona wrote:
Poll: IEM Katowice 2020 Champion

Serral (59)
 
40%

Maru (40)
 
27%

Zest (24)
 
16%

Rogue (23)
 
16%

146 total votes

Your vote: IEM Katowice 2020 Champion

(Vote): Serral
(Vote): Zest
(Vote): Rogue
(Vote): Maru



So did people mostly vote for Serral 'cos he was white?


Yes, that must be the case. Or maybe because Serral is the one who won the most titles in the last two years.

i'm with you, but maybe don't take every bait thrown around
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12887 Posts
March 01 2020 11:47 GMT
#402
On March 01 2020 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
people praise INno for its Macro but Maru's macro is couple of steps ahead

He plays a different tempo style
WriterMaru
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4949 Posts
March 01 2020 11:47 GMT
#403
On March 01 2020 20:47 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 20:45 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:44 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
people praise INno for its Macro but Maru's macro is couple of steps ahead


? that 2/2 timing was awful.


He macroes while microing like no one else


he has a better micro than inno during macro phases for sure but Inno's macro is overall way crisper when he's on form.
Looking at inno's production bar is delightful when he's playing well, he hits every timing perfectly to maximize his powerspikes.


I give you that
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
March 01 2020 11:47 GMT
#404
Is it just me or can you see extreme differences in multitasking between Inno and Maru?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25548 Posts
March 01 2020 11:47 GMT
#405
On March 01 2020 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
people praise INno for its Macro but Maru's macro is couple of steps ahead

Sacrilege
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
March 01 2020 11:48 GMT
#406
On March 01 2020 20:47 Aunvilgodess wrote:
Is it just me or can you see extreme differences in multitasking between Inno and Maru?


Between Maru and anyone else in the world, to be honest (except prime byun)
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-01 11:51:01
March 01 2020 11:49 GMT
#407
On March 01 2020 20:47 Aunvilgodess wrote:
Is it just me or can you see extreme differences in multitasking between Inno and Maru?


Maru's always been way better at multitasking than Inno, even in 2013. Inno has always been more straightforward and singleminded. Maru dances around while Inno brute forces his way through.
Denominator of the Universe
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12887 Posts
March 01 2020 11:49 GMT
#408
On March 01 2020 20:47 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 20:45 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:44 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
people praise INno for its Macro but Maru's macro is couple of steps ahead


? that 2/2 timing was awful.


He macroes while microing like no one else


he has a better micro than inno during macro phases for sure but Inno's macro is overall way crisper when he's on form.
Looking at inno's production bar is delightful when he's playing well, he hits every timing perfectly to maximize his powerspikes.

That's because INno play is centered around powerspikes whereas Maru make stuff happen
Maru could probably play à la INno but not the opposite (except when INno was as young as Maru probably)
WriterMaru
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 01 2020 11:49 GMT
#409
On March 01 2020 20:47 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 20:47 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:45 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:44 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
people praise INno for its Macro but Maru's macro is couple of steps ahead


? that 2/2 timing was awful.


He macroes while microing like no one else


he has a better micro than inno during macro phases for sure but Inno's macro is overall way crisper when he's on form.
Looking at inno's production bar is delightful when he's playing well, he hits every timing perfectly to maximize his powerspikes.


I give you that


We can totally agree that they both excel in different aspect of macro and I'm totally onboard that Maru has a better multitask (ence a better micro/macro while fighting and a higher tempo) than Inno.

If you're a scrub imitating Inno is way more effective.
Zest fanboy.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 01 2020 11:49 GMT
#410
On March 01 2020 20:47 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 20:45 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:44 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
people praise INno for its Macro but Maru's macro is couple of steps ahead


? that 2/2 timing was awful.


He macroes while microing like no one else


he has a better micro than inno during macro phases for sure but Inno's macro is overall way crisper when he's on form.
Looking at inno's production bar is delightful when he's playing well, he hits every timing perfectly to maximize his powerspikes.

it's so satisfying watching Inno's production tab. almost every single time as soon as an attack or amour upgrade finishes he immediately queues the next one
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4949 Posts
March 01 2020 11:50 GMT
#411
On March 01 2020 20:49 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 20:47 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:47 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:45 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:44 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
people praise INno for its Macro but Maru's macro is couple of steps ahead


? that 2/2 timing was awful.


He macroes while microing like no one else


he has a better micro than inno during macro phases for sure but Inno's macro is overall way crisper when he's on form.
Looking at inno's production bar is delightful when he's playing well, he hits every timing perfectly to maximize his powerspikes.


I give you that


We can totally agree that they both excel in different aspect of macro and I'm totally onboard that Maru has a better multitask (ence a better micro/macro while fighting and a higher tempo) than Inno.

If you're a scrub imitating Inno is way more effective.


but less fun! Reason I swtiched to Terran was M A R U
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25548 Posts
March 01 2020 11:50 GMT
#412
I think that game really snowballed heavily from Rogue trying to surround that marine/medivac group early and lost like 15 lings for no reason.

Mary played really clinically from then on in though.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 01 2020 11:50 GMT
#413
On March 01 2020 20:49 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 20:47 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:45 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:44 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
people praise INno for its Macro but Maru's macro is couple of steps ahead


? that 2/2 timing was awful.


He macroes while microing like no one else


he has a better micro than inno during macro phases for sure but Inno's macro is overall way crisper when he's on form.
Looking at inno's production bar is delightful when he's playing well, he hits every timing perfectly to maximize his powerspikes.

That's because INno play is centered around powerspikes whereas Maru make stuff happen
Maru could probably play à la INno but not the opposite (except when INno was as young as Maru probably)


I've never seen Maru play super crisps games ala Inno to be fair. But I didn't watched every Maru game so I might have miss some.

I think it's super cool that the two best terran in the world for years have such different styles regarding core SC2 concepts. (tempo, micro vs macro priority).
Zest fanboy.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 01 2020 11:50 GMT
#414
On March 01 2020 20:49 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 20:47 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:47 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:45 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:44 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
people praise INno for its Macro but Maru's macro is couple of steps ahead


? that 2/2 timing was awful.


He macroes while microing like no one else


he has a better micro than inno during macro phases for sure but Inno's macro is overall way crisper when he's on form.
Looking at inno's production bar is delightful when he's playing well, he hits every timing perfectly to maximize his powerspikes.


I give you that


We can totally agree that they both excel in different aspect of macro and I'm totally onboard that Maru has a better multitask (ence a better micro/macro while fighting and a higher tempo) than Inno.

If you're a scrub imitating Inno is way more effective.

If you're a scrub, you should imitate Clem or uThermal
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 01 2020 11:50 GMT
#415
Maru's micro on point this tournament
Mine gas, build tanks.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 01 2020 11:51 GMT
#416
On March 01 2020 20:49 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 20:47 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:45 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:44 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
people praise INno for its Macro but Maru's macro is couple of steps ahead


? that 2/2 timing was awful.


He macroes while microing like no one else


he has a better micro than inno during macro phases for sure but Inno's macro is overall way crisper when he's on form.
Looking at inno's production bar is delightful when he's playing well, he hits every timing perfectly to maximize his powerspikes.

it's so satisfying watching Inno's production tab. almost every single time as soon as an attack or amour upgrade finishes he immediately queues the next one


and he attacks at that same time. Anyone wanted to go to GM with Terran should copy that.
Zest fanboy.
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
March 01 2020 11:51 GMT
#417
On March 01 2020 20:50 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 20:49 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:47 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:47 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:45 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:44 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
people praise INno for its Macro but Maru's macro is couple of steps ahead


? that 2/2 timing was awful.


He macroes while microing like no one else


he has a better micro than inno during macro phases for sure but Inno's macro is overall way crisper when he's on form.
Looking at inno's production bar is delightful when he's playing well, he hits every timing perfectly to maximize his powerspikes.


I give you that


We can totally agree that they both excel in different aspect of macro and I'm totally onboard that Maru has a better multitask (ence a better micro/macro while fighting and a higher tempo) than Inno.

If you're a scrub imitating Inno is way more effective.

If you're a scrub, you should imitate Clem or uThermal


as a scrub, ive always loved to copy Polt's builds. Usually timing based on 2-3 bases relying on doing damage and playing ahead.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15968 Posts
March 01 2020 11:51 GMT
#418
On March 01 2020 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
people praise INno for its Macro but Maru's macro is couple of steps ahead

Sure it is now. Inno is old and slow
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 01 2020 11:52 GMT
#419
On March 01 2020 20:50 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 20:49 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:47 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:47 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:45 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:44 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
people praise INno for its Macro but Maru's macro is couple of steps ahead


? that 2/2 timing was awful.


He macroes while microing like no one else


he has a better micro than inno during macro phases for sure but Inno's macro is overall way crisper when he's on form.
Looking at inno's production bar is delightful when he's playing well, he hits every timing perfectly to maximize his powerspikes.


I give you that


We can totally agree that they both excel in different aspect of macro and I'm totally onboard that Maru has a better multitask (ence a better micro/macro while fighting and a higher tempo) than Inno.

If you're a scrub imitating Inno is way more effective.


but less fun! Reason I swtiched to Terran was M A R U


I mean who cannot get in love with a kid that dropped marine and marauder on Colossi.
Zest fanboy.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 01 2020 11:52 GMT
#420
On March 01 2020 20:52 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 20:50 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:49 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:47 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:47 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:45 Argonauta wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:44 imre wrote:
On March 01 2020 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
people praise INno for its Macro but Maru's macro is couple of steps ahead


? that 2/2 timing was awful.


He macroes while microing like no one else


he has a better micro than inno during macro phases for sure but Inno's macro is overall way crisper when he's on form.
Looking at inno's production bar is delightful when he's playing well, he hits every timing perfectly to maximize his powerspikes.


I give you that


We can totally agree that they both excel in different aspect of macro and I'm totally onboard that Maru has a better multitask (ence a better micro/macro while fighting and a higher tempo) than Inno.

If you're a scrub imitating Inno is way more effective.


but less fun! Reason I swtiched to Terran was M A R U


I mean who cannot get in love with a kid that dropped marine and marauder on Colossi.


A Protoss presumably.
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