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Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States461 Posts
February 28 2020 15:35 GMT
#561
On February 29 2020 00:34 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 00:32 Moonerz wrote:
Hey sorry to ask noob questions I forgot my headphones and I'm watching at work <_<.

Is there going to be a 45 minute downtime before group D?

Edit: NVM. Starting now

Team watching at work buddy, this week productivity was really bad


They really should consider giving us these days off =b. Roughly the same amount of work would get done.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-28 15:37:50
February 28 2020 15:36 GMT
#562
Kaelaris: He didn't qualify so he kind of sucked, but in fact he did the same than Reynor so he actually did great"

sOs bring up the baboon builds!
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
February 28 2020 15:38 GMT
#563
On February 29 2020 00:35 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 00:32 DieuCure wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:23 Xain0n wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:14 Poopi wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:06 Xain0n wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:48 DieuCure wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:47 Poopi wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:44 Xain0n wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:36 Moonerz wrote:
We're already doing better than last IEM in terms of Terrans! Maybe it was a #Terranpatch all along


And there were people complaining about Terran being weak yesterday...

Last year terrans were doing veryyy badly, the balance is not as bad in 2020 but I wouldn't say that terran is super strong because INno barely beat Elazer and Maru managed to beat Patience / Solar.


Dude, clearly, Terran is OP, two guys considered as GOAT are toping their groups, how come ?


I have said nothing about Terran being strong(I think they are pretty fine), I have implied that whining preemptively is ridicolous without any clear indication that Terran are weak.
Then, when Terran advance, it's because the players are just too strong; typical.

How is it preemptive?
A lot of good terrans got crushed by protosses, Clem, Bunny, HeroMarine, etc. in matches where they played well and stuff.
Katowice didn't start yesterday


In qualifiers, where there were two Protoss every Terran? Do you imply their Protoss opponents played bad?


Maybe because Terran is in a rough spot actually and so they don't want to go ? MarineLord is the best example, he isn't even trying anymore.


How many buffs do you want to see before stopping to claim Terran is in a rought spot?
When two Terran advance, it's because they are unbeatable gods while their race must be comically subpar; there are times when this is true, but definitely not at the moment.


Maru won 4 GSLs in a row when the balance favored protoss, and INno won on every single patch. They played against Patience and Elazer.
TL+ Member
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12912 Posts
February 28 2020 15:40 GMT
#564
On February 29 2020 00:35 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 00:32 DieuCure wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:23 Xain0n wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:14 Poopi wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:06 Xain0n wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:48 DieuCure wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:47 Poopi wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:44 Xain0n wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:36 Moonerz wrote:
We're already doing better than last IEM in terms of Terrans! Maybe it was a #Terranpatch all along


And there were people complaining about Terran being weak yesterday...

Last year terrans were doing veryyy badly, the balance is not as bad in 2020 but I wouldn't say that terran is super strong because INno barely beat Elazer and Maru managed to beat Patience / Solar.


Dude, clearly, Terran is OP, two guys considered as GOAT are toping their groups, how come ?


I have said nothing about Terran being strong(I think they are pretty fine), I have implied that whining preemptively is ridicolous without any clear indication that Terran are weak.
Then, when Terran advance, it's because the players are just too strong; typical.

How is it preemptive?
A lot of good terrans got crushed by protosses, Clem, Bunny, HeroMarine, etc. in matches where they played well and stuff.
Katowice didn't start yesterday


In qualifiers, where there were two Protoss every Terran? Do you imply their Protoss opponents played bad?


Maybe because Terran is in a rough spot actually and so they don't want to go ? MarineLord is the best example, he isn't even trying anymore.


How many buffs do you want to see before stopping to claim Terran is in a rought spot?
When two Terran advance, it's because they are unbeatable gods while their race must be comically subpar; there are times when this is true, but definitely not at the moment.

Their race isn't comically subpar, that was IEM Kato 2019 not 2020. But there are some concerns regarding TvP (and probably TvZ as well but we haven't had the chance to see top TvZ yet) and we've been able to see it already at Katowice. I wonder if ESL taking charge will have any effect on the balance team btw, will be interesting to see.
WriterMaru
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1200 Posts
February 28 2020 15:40 GMT
#565
On February 29 2020 00:35 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 00:32 DieuCure wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:23 Xain0n wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:14 Poopi wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:06 Xain0n wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:48 DieuCure wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:47 Poopi wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:44 Xain0n wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:36 Moonerz wrote:
We're already doing better than last IEM in terms of Terrans! Maybe it was a #Terranpatch all along


And there were people complaining about Terran being weak yesterday...

Last year terrans were doing veryyy badly, the balance is not as bad in 2020 but I wouldn't say that terran is super strong because INno barely beat Elazer and Maru managed to beat Patience / Solar.


Dude, clearly, Terran is OP, two guys considered as GOAT are toping their groups, how come ?


I have said nothing about Terran being strong(I think they are pretty fine), I have implied that whining preemptively is ridicolous without any clear indication that Terran are weak.
Then, when Terran advance, it's because the players are just too strong; typical.

How is it preemptive?
A lot of good terrans got crushed by protosses, Clem, Bunny, HeroMarine, etc. in matches where they played well and stuff.
Katowice didn't start yesterday


In qualifiers, where there were two Protoss every Terran? Do you imply their Protoss opponents played bad?


Maybe because Terran is in a rough spot actually and so they don't want to go ? MarineLord is the best example, he isn't even trying anymore.


How many buffs do you want to see before stopping to claim Terran is in a rought spot?
When two Terran advance, it's because they are unbeatable gods while their race must be comically subpar; there are times when this is true, but definitely not at the moment.


How are INno and Maru not the best two terrans the world has ever seen and TErran not in a rough spot? lol
Commentator
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
February 28 2020 15:40 GMT
#566
after doing so much to save his medivac Cure still donates it in the end :/
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
February 28 2020 15:42 GMT
#567
On February 29 2020 00:40 TaKeTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 00:35 Xain0n wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:32 DieuCure wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:23 Xain0n wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:14 Poopi wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:06 Xain0n wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:48 DieuCure wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:47 Poopi wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:44 Xain0n wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:36 Moonerz wrote:
We're already doing better than last IEM in terms of Terrans! Maybe it was a #Terranpatch all along


And there were people complaining about Terran being weak yesterday...

Last year terrans were doing veryyy badly, the balance is not as bad in 2020 but I wouldn't say that terran is super strong because INno barely beat Elazer and Maru managed to beat Patience / Solar.


Dude, clearly, Terran is OP, two guys considered as GOAT are toping their groups, how come ?


I have said nothing about Terran being strong(I think they are pretty fine), I have implied that whining preemptively is ridicolous without any clear indication that Terran are weak.
Then, when Terran advance, it's because the players are just too strong; typical.

How is it preemptive?
A lot of good terrans got crushed by protosses, Clem, Bunny, HeroMarine, etc. in matches where they played well and stuff.
Katowice didn't start yesterday


In qualifiers, where there were two Protoss every Terran? Do you imply their Protoss opponents played bad?


Maybe because Terran is in a rough spot actually and so they don't want to go ? MarineLord is the best example, he isn't even trying anymore.


How many buffs do you want to see before stopping to claim Terran is in a rought spot?
When two Terran advance, it's because they are unbeatable gods while their race must be comically subpar; there are times when this is true, but definitely not at the moment.


How are INno and Maru not the best two terrans the world has ever seen and TErran not in a rough spot? lol


Inno and Maru are two OF the best terrans the world has ever seen, no doubt; Terran race is not in a rough spot atm, tho.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
February 28 2020 15:42 GMT
#568
Man TY really fucked up in this first game. That's a bad start.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 28 2020 15:43 GMT
#569
I wish they would have put Hurricane-Cure on the main stage, now Hurricane probably won't be on the main stream at all
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
February 28 2020 15:43 GMT
#570
Cure - Hurricane 1 - 0
I Protoss winner, could it be?
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
February 28 2020 15:43 GMT
#571
On February 29 2020 00:42 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 00:40 TaKeTV wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:35 Xain0n wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:32 DieuCure wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:23 Xain0n wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:14 Poopi wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:06 Xain0n wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:48 DieuCure wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:47 Poopi wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:44 Xain0n wrote:
[quote]

And there were people complaining about Terran being weak yesterday...

Last year terrans were doing veryyy badly, the balance is not as bad in 2020 but I wouldn't say that terran is super strong because INno barely beat Elazer and Maru managed to beat Patience / Solar.


Dude, clearly, Terran is OP, two guys considered as GOAT are toping their groups, how come ?


I have said nothing about Terran being strong(I think they are pretty fine), I have implied that whining preemptively is ridicolous without any clear indication that Terran are weak.
Then, when Terran advance, it's because the players are just too strong; typical.

How is it preemptive?
A lot of good terrans got crushed by protosses, Clem, Bunny, HeroMarine, etc. in matches where they played well and stuff.
Katowice didn't start yesterday


In qualifiers, where there were two Protoss every Terran? Do you imply their Protoss opponents played bad?


Maybe because Terran is in a rough spot actually and so they don't want to go ? MarineLord is the best example, he isn't even trying anymore.


How many buffs do you want to see before stopping to claim Terran is in a rought spot?
When two Terran advance, it's because they are unbeatable gods while their race must be comically subpar; there are times when this is true, but definitely not at the moment.


How are INno and Maru not the best two terrans the world has ever seen and TErran not in a rough spot? lol


Inno and Maru are two OF the best terrans the world has ever seen, no doubt; Terran race is not in a rough spot atm, tho.


I wouldn't be so sure about that. Cure is outplaying Hurricane like if it was a pro vs a mid gm.
TL+ Member
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
February 28 2020 15:44 GMT
#572
On February 29 2020 00:43 Nakajin wrote:
I wish they would have put Hurricane-Cure on the main stage, now Hurricane probably won't be on the main stream at all

Is there a player that hasn't been on the main stage? They'll definitely show one of Hurricane-Serral/Lambo on the main.
It appears I have been chosen.
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1200 Posts
February 28 2020 15:44 GMT
#573
On February 29 2020 00:42 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 00:40 TaKeTV wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:35 Xain0n wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:32 DieuCure wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:23 Xain0n wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:14 Poopi wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:06 Xain0n wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:48 DieuCure wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:47 Poopi wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:44 Xain0n wrote:
[quote]

And there were people complaining about Terran being weak yesterday...

Last year terrans were doing veryyy badly, the balance is not as bad in 2020 but I wouldn't say that terran is super strong because INno barely beat Elazer and Maru managed to beat Patience / Solar.


Dude, clearly, Terran is OP, two guys considered as GOAT are toping their groups, how come ?


I have said nothing about Terran being strong(I think they are pretty fine), I have implied that whining preemptively is ridicolous without any clear indication that Terran are weak.
Then, when Terran advance, it's because the players are just too strong; typical.

How is it preemptive?
A lot of good terrans got crushed by protosses, Clem, Bunny, HeroMarine, etc. in matches where they played well and stuff.
Katowice didn't start yesterday


In qualifiers, where there were two Protoss every Terran? Do you imply their Protoss opponents played bad?


Maybe because Terran is in a rough spot actually and so they don't want to go ? MarineLord is the best example, he isn't even trying anymore.


How many buffs do you want to see before stopping to claim Terran is in a rought spot?
When two Terran advance, it's because they are unbeatable gods while their race must be comically subpar; there are times when this is true, but definitely not at the moment.


How are INno and Maru not the best two terrans the world has ever seen and TErran not in a rough spot? lol


Inno and Maru are two OF the best terrans the world has ever seen, no doubt; Terran race is not in a rough spot atm, tho.


Terran absolutely is in a rough spot, even if its only due to a terrible map pool. Even though it is better than previous, its still not good.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 28 2020 15:44 GMT
#574
On February 29 2020 00:42 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 00:40 TaKeTV wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:35 Xain0n wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:32 DieuCure wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:23 Xain0n wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:14 Poopi wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:06 Xain0n wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:48 DieuCure wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:47 Poopi wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:44 Xain0n wrote:
[quote]

And there were people complaining about Terran being weak yesterday...

Last year terrans were doing veryyy badly, the balance is not as bad in 2020 but I wouldn't say that terran is super strong because INno barely beat Elazer and Maru managed to beat Patience / Solar.


Dude, clearly, Terran is OP, two guys considered as GOAT are toping their groups, how come ?


I have said nothing about Terran being strong(I think they are pretty fine), I have implied that whining preemptively is ridicolous without any clear indication that Terran are weak.
Then, when Terran advance, it's because the players are just too strong; typical.

How is it preemptive?
A lot of good terrans got crushed by protosses, Clem, Bunny, HeroMarine, etc. in matches where they played well and stuff.
Katowice didn't start yesterday


In qualifiers, where there were two Protoss every Terran? Do you imply their Protoss opponents played bad?


Maybe because Terran is in a rough spot actually and so they don't want to go ? MarineLord is the best example, he isn't even trying anymore.


How many buffs do you want to see before stopping to claim Terran is in a rought spot?
When two Terran advance, it's because they are unbeatable gods while their race must be comically subpar; there are times when this is true, but definitely not at the moment.


How are INno and Maru not the best two terrans the world has ever seen and TErran not in a rough spot? lol


Inno and Maru are two OF the best terrans the world has ever seen, no doubt; Terran race is not in a rough spot atm, tho.

I'd love to see any argument that Maru and INno aren't the two best terrans of all time.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 28 2020 15:45 GMT
#575
On February 29 2020 00:44 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 00:43 Nakajin wrote:
I wish they would have put Hurricane-Cure on the main stage, now Hurricane probably won't be on the main stream at all

Is there a player that hasn't been on the main stage? They'll definitely show one of Hurricane-Serral/Lambo on the main.


Both Armani and Patience, I don't remember is Has was on.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
February 28 2020 15:45 GMT
#576
On February 29 2020 00:44 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 00:43 Nakajin wrote:
I wish they would have put Hurricane-Cure on the main stage, now Hurricane probably won't be on the main stream at all

Is there a player that hasn't been on the main stage? They'll definitely show one of Hurricane-Serral/Lambo on the main.

Armani didn't get any games on A stream.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
712 Posts
February 28 2020 15:45 GMT
#577
On February 29 2020 00:44 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 00:42 Xain0n wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:40 TaKeTV wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:35 Xain0n wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:32 DieuCure wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:23 Xain0n wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:14 Poopi wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:06 Xain0n wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:48 DieuCure wrote:
On February 28 2020 23:47 Poopi wrote:
[quote]
Last year terrans were doing veryyy badly, the balance is not as bad in 2020 but I wouldn't say that terran is super strong because INno barely beat Elazer and Maru managed to beat Patience / Solar.


Dude, clearly, Terran is OP, two guys considered as GOAT are toping their groups, how come ?


I have said nothing about Terran being strong(I think they are pretty fine), I have implied that whining preemptively is ridicolous without any clear indication that Terran are weak.
Then, when Terran advance, it's because the players are just too strong; typical.

How is it preemptive?
A lot of good terrans got crushed by protosses, Clem, Bunny, HeroMarine, etc. in matches where they played well and stuff.
Katowice didn't start yesterday


In qualifiers, where there were two Protoss every Terran? Do you imply their Protoss opponents played bad?


Maybe because Terran is in a rough spot actually and so they don't want to go ? MarineLord is the best example, he isn't even trying anymore.


How many buffs do you want to see before stopping to claim Terran is in a rought spot?
When two Terran advance, it's because they are unbeatable gods while their race must be comically subpar; there are times when this is true, but definitely not at the moment.


How are INno and Maru not the best two terrans the world has ever seen and TErran not in a rough spot? lol


Inno and Maru are two OF the best terrans the world has ever seen, no doubt; Terran race is not in a rough spot atm, tho.

I'd love to see any argument that Maru and INno aren't the two best terrans of all time.

they lack byun's micro
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
February 28 2020 15:45 GMT
#578
On February 29 2020 00:45 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 00:44 Fyzar wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:43 Nakajin wrote:
I wish they would have put Hurricane-Cure on the main stage, now Hurricane probably won't be on the main stream at all

Is there a player that hasn't been on the main stage? They'll definitely show one of Hurricane-Serral/Lambo on the main.


Both Armani and Patience, I don't remember is Has was on.

Has was on like twice I think and both times there were better matches on that round.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12912 Posts
February 28 2020 15:45 GMT
#579
16% on the laptop thankfully end of the oral presentations, one more poster presentation for me for an hour and I'll be free to watch this beautiful group with Serral / Cure / TY and the boys on shitty 4G commute o/.

sOs qualifying would be almost funny if it didn't mean TY probably out
WriterMaru
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-28 15:46:19
February 28 2020 15:45 GMT
#580
On February 29 2020 00:45 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 00:44 Fyzar wrote:
On February 29 2020 00:43 Nakajin wrote:
I wish they would have put Hurricane-Cure on the main stage, now Hurricane probably won't be on the main stream at all

Is there a player that hasn't been on the main stage? They'll definitely show one of Hurricane-Serral/Lambo on the main.


Both Armani and Patience, I don't remember is Has was on.

Ah fair, Has vs Stats was on main.
I remember Rotti specifically saying something along the lines of "Special vs Parting might be cool, but Has qualified and we want to give him some main stage games".
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