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Northern Ireland26267 Posts
On February 26 2020 19:30 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2020 09:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 26 2020 08:40 JJH777 wrote:On February 26 2020 07:39 Xain0n wrote:
Whining before the tournament has even started! That's something only Terran could do. Qualifiers are just as relevant as the tournament for balance statements. It's way more games with almost the same skill level of players. Terran is always under represented in everything for years now. It is known that the other races, especially zerg, simply have the more talented players. If serral played terran he'd find an equivalent for speed overlords to always scout perfectly and one for queens to defend anything no matter what build one chose. He would inspire other foreign terrans and tournaments would be tvt fests. True story. Scans and Cyclones 
‘We’ve been listening to feedback from the community Terran more options in scouting for when they don’t have scan energy or have just Manner-Muled.
We’d like to experiment by adding a new upgrade, researchable on a supply-dropped depot called ‘Enhanced Structure Thrusters’ at the cost of 50/0. This will increase a floating building’s movement speed to the same as an observer that hasn’t had its own speed upgrade researched.
It will also increase the speed buildings lift off and land and we hope this will open new timing windows by making add-on swaps faster.’
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On February 26 2020 08:40 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2020 07:39 Xain0n wrote:
Whining before the tournament has even started! That's something only Terran could do. Qualifiers are just as relevant as the tournament for balance statements. It's way more games with almost the same skill level of players. Terran is always under represented in everything for years now.
They were underrepresented from the start tho, I mean,there are less pro terran than zerg/toss atm.
And your statement is false, Risky, Razerblade, Vindicta, Marsman, Pappijoe, Zipper, Awers are playing alongside players like soO, Trap, Innovation, ptitdrogo, Clem, Ragnarok ext which makes it totally unfair as the skill difference is huge.
We end up with terran having 63% winrate in 27 games against zerg. I am pretty sure you'll agree it doesn't mean much.
Edit : unless you're talking about online qualifiers
Then screw me
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I'd probably include the offline qualifiers in the stats. All the players are good, and some are better than other, but all in all it's a good representation of balance.
We should wait until the tournaments actually over, though. This is the first big tournament on the patch, so you can't just disregard it because Pappijoe exists, that's ridiculous.
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On February 26 2020 23:50 InfCereal wrote:
I'd probably include the offline qualifiers in the stats. All the players are good, and some are better than other, but all in all it's a good representation of balance.
We should wait until the tournaments actually over, though. This is the first big tournament on the patch, so you can't just disregard it because Pappijoe exists, that's ridiculous.
* cough* HSC 20 *cough*
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On February 26 2020 22:26 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2020 19:30 Harris1st wrote:On February 26 2020 09:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 26 2020 08:40 JJH777 wrote:On February 26 2020 07:39 Xain0n wrote:
Whining before the tournament has even started! That's something only Terran could do. Qualifiers are just as relevant as the tournament for balance statements. It's way more games with almost the same skill level of players. Terran is always under represented in everything for years now. It is known that the other races, especially zerg, simply have the more talented players. If serral played terran he'd find an equivalent for speed overlords to always scout perfectly and one for queens to defend anything no matter what build one chose. He would inspire other foreign terrans and tournaments would be tvt fests. True story. Scans and Cyclones ‘We’ve been listening to feedback from the community Terran more options in scouting for when they don’t have scan energy or have just Manner-Muled. We’d like to experiment by adding a new upgrade, researchable on a supply-dropped depot called ‘Enhanced Structure Thrusters’ at the cost of 50/0. This will increase a floating building’s movement speed to the same as an observer that hasn’t had its own speed upgrade researched. It will also increase the speed buildings lift off and land and we hope this will open new timing windows by making add-on swaps faster.’
If you really think about it:
Terran can build a proxy rax somewhere and easily scout with it vs P/Z cause both have lackluckster AA in the first minutes of a game. And it's cheaper than mule
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 27 2020 15:42 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2020 22:26 Wombat_NI wrote:On February 26 2020 19:30 Harris1st wrote:On February 26 2020 09:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 26 2020 08:40 JJH777 wrote:On February 26 2020 07:39 Xain0n wrote:
Whining before the tournament has even started! That's something only Terran could do. Qualifiers are just as relevant as the tournament for balance statements. It's way more games with almost the same skill level of players. Terran is always under represented in everything for years now. It is known that the other races, especially zerg, simply have the more talented players. If serral played terran he'd find an equivalent for speed overlords to always scout perfectly and one for queens to defend anything no matter what build one chose. He would inspire other foreign terrans and tournaments would be tvt fests. True story. Scans and Cyclones ‘We’ve been listening to feedback from the community Terran more options in scouting for when they don’t have scan energy or have just Manner-Muled. We’d like to experiment by adding a new upgrade, researchable on a supply-dropped depot called ‘Enhanced Structure Thrusters’ at the cost of 50/0. This will increase a floating building’s movement speed to the same as an observer that hasn’t had its own speed upgrade researched. It will also increase the speed buildings lift off and land and we hope this will open new timing windows by making add-on swaps faster.’ If you really think about it: Terran can build a proxy rax somewhere and easily scout with it vs P/Z cause both have lackluckster AA in the first minutes of a game. And it's cheaper than mule
Is it cheaper if you add the SCV time for which it's not mining?
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On February 27 2020 18:16 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2020 15:42 Harris1st wrote:On February 26 2020 22:26 Wombat_NI wrote:On February 26 2020 19:30 Harris1st wrote:On February 26 2020 09:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 26 2020 08:40 JJH777 wrote:On February 26 2020 07:39 Xain0n wrote:
Whining before the tournament has even started! That's something only Terran could do. Qualifiers are just as relevant as the tournament for balance statements. It's way more games with almost the same skill level of players. Terran is always under represented in everything for years now. It is known that the other races, especially zerg, simply have the more talented players. If serral played terran he'd find an equivalent for speed overlords to always scout perfectly and one for queens to defend anything no matter what build one chose. He would inspire other foreign terrans and tournaments would be tvt fests. True story. Scans and Cyclones ‘We’ve been listening to feedback from the community Terran more options in scouting for when they don’t have scan energy or have just Manner-Muled. We’d like to experiment by adding a new upgrade, researchable on a supply-dropped depot called ‘Enhanced Structure Thrusters’ at the cost of 50/0. This will increase a floating building’s movement speed to the same as an observer that hasn’t had its own speed upgrade researched. It will also increase the speed buildings lift off and land and we hope this will open new timing windows by making add-on swaps faster.’ If you really think about it: Terran can build a proxy rax somewhere and easily scout with it vs P/Z cause both have lackluckster AA in the first minutes of a game. And it's cheaper than mule Is it cheaper if you add the SCV time for which it's not mining?
Probably. If only for the reason that you can use it multiple times (or at least longer than a scan would last)
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