EPT"Get Rifkin to Blizzcon" Events - Page 3
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25103 Posts
On October 31 2019 10:50 Bagration wrote: Sc2 controversy is clearly astro-turfed by Liquid Nazgul using smurf accounts to increase website activity and thread posts. /s Careful now you don’t want to end up like Jeffrey Epstein | ||
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Pentarp
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vyzion87
17 Posts
On October 28 2019 20:57 Elmonti wrote: Jesus... So basically BasetradeTV offered us showmatches and a little tournament played by pretty good pros so we can enjoy with absolutely no obligation to donate or sub or anything, and tell us that every tip would be going to pay the staff for his personal stuff... something that EVERY streamer does. The only thing that could be better would be shifting the focus of the post from his travel to the tournaments, that's it. Everything else is not different from the other content-creators: I offer you content and games, you pay me if you feel like it. Some people... this, the whiners in this thread are so petty. pathetic bunch | ||
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that_one_danny
7 Posts
If you, as a privat person, want to go to an event, you should pay with your own private money. Except of course, you work there as a content creator, player,... which isnt the case here. I literally played thousands of games in SC2, donated to some channels, etc. (all that good sc2 human bs) but should i get a free blizzcon ticket or a free trip out of it? NO. So beeing a content creator, doesnt entitle you to anything. Also, what about that "I am not BTTV, just an employee"? You are the founder dude, you arent less BTTV than Take is TakeTV. And one last, tiny detail. If you want the SC2 community to sponsor your trip, but youd rather play/watch WoW instead of SC2 global finals, you shouldnt get surprised, if the hardcore fans get pissed. It just feels "ungenuine" towards SC2. Edit: Probably should have put it at the start, but hosting showmatches, casting and all that good stuff is of course a legitimate way, to collect the money, because you work hard for it. I just dont like it, when polite questions are called whining. | ||
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aringadingding
474 Posts
On October 31 2019 18:58 that_one_danny wrote: honestly, it turned into whining, when rifkin called it out as whining. Before that, people just asked, what they can expect from his blizzcon journey, even formulated it as polite as possible with smileys and stuff. And i guess, Rifkin realized, that sponsoring someones Blizzcon trip, eventhough he is a content creator, etc.. is a bit weird, which is when he started calling those legitimate questions "whining". You gave literally no follow up information. If you, as a privat person, want to go to an event, you should pay with your own private money. Except of course, you work there as a content creator, player,... which isnt the case here. I literally played thousands of games in SC2, donated to some channels, etc. (all that good sc2 human bs) but should i get a free blizzcon ticket or a free trip out of it? NO. So beeing a content creator, doesnt entitle you to anything. Also, what about that "I am not BTTV, just an employee"? You are the founder dude, you arent less BTTV than Take is TakeTV. And one last, tiny detail. If you want the SC2 community to sponsor your trip, but youd rather play/watch WoW instead of SC2 global finals, you shouldnt get surprised, if the hardcore fans get pissed. It just feels "ungenuine" towards SC2. Edit: Probably should have put it at the start, but hosting showmatches, casting and all that good stuff is of course a legitimate way, to collect the money, because you work hard for it. I just dont like it, when polite questions are called whining. Exactly! I noticed the same thing. There was no "hate" nor "hostality" whatsoever in the first quesitons that was pretty valid. And then Rifkin just couldnt handle comments that was not hyped cheering and got smug and offended etc. After that other people sighed about people being so aggressive/hostile or whatever without reading the first comments. I think the social IQ in rifkin is pretty low unfortunately (even though he (sorry basetrade) streams alot).... And people are suprised that other people get annoyed with his first post? What if Dimaga posted "i want to go to blizzcon, send me money so i can do that"... Even though he wouldnt be forcing anything on anyone, people would still react a bit negative to this begging and would make sarcastic comments, but is that hateful really? | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On October 31 2019 11:10 Wombat_NI wrote: Careful now you don’t want to end up like Jeffrey Epstein I heard Epstein was planning to write a Twitch chat meme in his statement to the juge. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25103 Posts
On November 01 2019 06:47 Nakajin wrote: I heard Epstein was planning to write a Twitch chat meme in his statement to the juge. Not the most outlandish thing I’ve heard on the topic haha | ||
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DSh1
292 Posts
On November 01 2019 05:18 aringadingding wrote: Exactly! I noticed the same thing. There was no "hate" nor "hostality" whatsoever in the first quesitons that was pretty valid. And then Rifkin just couldnt handle comments that was not hyped cheering and got smug and offended etc. After that other people sighed about people being so aggressive/hostile or whatever without reading the first comments. I think the social IQ in rifkin is pretty low unfortunately (even though he (sorry basetrade) streams alot).... And people are suprised that other people get annoyed with his first post? What if Dimaga posted "i want to go to blizzcon, send me money so i can do that"... Even though he wouldnt be forcing anything on anyone, people would still react a bit negative to this begging and would make sarcastic comments, but is that hateful really? Nah. "Could you please explain" kind of not the nicest formulation. Also the smilie at the end is at least ambiguous. Not sure exactly how it was meant, but I wouldn't interpret it nicely most of the time Also. Sure Dimaga can of course make a similar thread | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19231 Posts
On November 01 2019 09:10 DSh1 wrote: Nah. "Could you please explain" kind of not the nicest formulation. Also the smilie at the end is at least ambiguous. Not sure exactly how it was meant, but I wouldn't interpret it nicely most of the time Also. Sure Dimaga can of course make a similar thread I go well out of my way to be nice and work with everyone in this community. This was no exception. I only meant to encourage BTTV to share more information because I thought it would help since Rifkin works his ass off to provide content. It was also a courteous bump to the thread so it would give the event more exposure since no one replying meant the thread would fall off the recent posts list. There was no malice intention and I wish the thread would have stayed in a positive direction. It looks like there has been a positive result for the BTTV crew and I wish them the best. :D <---- a genuine smile!!! | ||
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DSh1
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On November 01 2019 11:32 DSh1 wrote: Of course. Not saying you had malicious intent. I meant I can see how it can be interpreted negatively. Dude wtf it was all the other way around. BD question was pretty much "dude your op sucks we know you gonna give us some juicy bits from blizzcon, come one make some better advertisment". Then the the drama... | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25103 Posts
On November 01 2019 11:32 DSh1 wrote: Of course. Not saying you had malicious intent. I meant I can see how it can be interpreted negatively. Others sure but BD’s post? :S Was pretty innocuous and sensible. Regardless Rifkin has his deserved trip to Blizzcon anyway and as I stated multiple times in the thread I have no issue with funding a trip that way, but maybe communicate a bit better and less saltily respond to reasonable questions in the future. | ||
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aringadingding
474 Posts
On November 01 2019 09:10 DSh1 wrote: Nah. "Could you please explain" kind of not the nicest formulation. Also the smilie at the end is at least ambiguous. Not sure exactly how it was meant, but I wouldn't interpret it nicely most of the time Also. Sure Dimaga can of course make a similar thread Ok, maybe you and rifkin interpret a "could you please explain" and a smiley as a full frontal hate wave toward him... And my comment about Dimaga was not regarding that he could or couldnt make a similar thread but to make a point that some people might be slightly annoyed by that kind of begging, even if there is nothing wrong to do it. A different wording from rifkin would probably have steered the first comments in a different direction and that wouldnt have forced rifking to make a (poor) response etc. Either way, fun for him now that he got the money. | ||
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BasetradeTV
Canada1307 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/basetradetv/v/501855298?sr=a&t=6480s (1:48:00 of the time stamp doesn't work) | ||
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necrosexy
451 Posts
can't you just have that as a goal on stream which would be easy to attain over the course of the year? i'm just confused why you would wait at this late hour ... | ||
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mindjames
Israel322 Posts
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aringadingding
474 Posts
On November 04 2019 10:26 mindjames wrote: These comments are hilarious. How disconnected do you need to be to have a problem with a donation goal? Do you people even watch twitch? How is it possible for you to not understand comments? If you cannot grasp the essence of the comments then i feel sorry for you. People were upset with him begging for money per se. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On November 04 2019 10:26 mindjames wrote: These comments are hilarious. How disconnected do you need to be to have a problem with a donation goal? Do you people even watch twitch? Then it should have been in his own stream threads like other streamers do  | ||
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Nithala
Serbia18 Posts
On November 04 2019 16:06 aringadingding wrote: How is it possible for you to not understand comments? If you cannot grasp the essence of the comments then i feel sorry for you. People were upset with him begging for money per se. It will backlash or not to him. If he did manage to suceed, like beggars for food, why would we judge his community or him for trying. Of course, I agree with valid points of posters above. | ||
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