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On September 04 2019 21:46 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2019 21:43 goody153 wrote:On September 04 2019 21:41 La1 wrote:On September 04 2019 21:38 Durnuu wrote:
Stats going for dumb attacks because Terran lategame is too strong, obviously I think exactly this the radius of that EMP is insane.. it seems like the protoss has no answer in straight on engages Storm is still a better ability by a mile tbh. Also feedbacks. storm is overall better but in TvP EMP is miles better the new EMP buff is absurd in TvP tbh it outclasses storm in every way range surface area damage burst damage vs damage over time of storm ghosts are overall stronger units than HT (cloak, more dps than stalker, etc)
yeah, that's the problem with EMP, it's the burst damage of it, and that ghosts can cloak so if you have 1 hole then all of a sudden you get hit for say 2k damage (all the shields) in a single hit.. kinda insane.
It's also hard to cover your army with observers because they are so slow they lag behind and they take up robo time.. will be interesting to keep an eye on win percentages over the next few months
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On September 04 2019 21:46 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2019 21:43 goody153 wrote:On September 04 2019 21:41 La1 wrote:On September 04 2019 21:38 Durnuu wrote:
Stats going for dumb attacks because Terran lategame is too strong, obviously I think exactly this the radius of that EMP is insane.. it seems like the protoss has no answer in straight on engages Storm is still a better ability by a mile tbh. Also feedbacks. storm is overall better but in TvP EMP is miles better the new EMP buff is absurd in TvP tbh it outclasses storm in every way range surface area damage burst damage vs damage over time of storm ghosts are overall stronger units than HT (cloak, more dps than stalker, etc)
lol what, storm is still better than EMP in tvp
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On September 04 2019 21:50 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2019 21:47 djraphi23 wrote:
Stats might not go to Blizzcon. Crazy to think. too bad that ASUS tournament wasn't allowed to give WCS Points to Koreans :/
then again, we got enough korean toss, let's get TY in
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On September 04 2019 21:51 Z3nith wrote:
I kinda have a feeling we're going to see Protoss really struggle over the next few months with this new patch.
It's hard to say for sure because it wasn't complete stomps and it's Maru we are talking about, the I sense Z>T>P(<Z) for now. We didn't see enough games at all though
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protoss needs something new
Blizz finally implement that colossus headbutt ability already
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On September 04 2019 21:51 La1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2019 21:46 BerserkSword wrote:On September 04 2019 21:43 goody153 wrote:On September 04 2019 21:41 La1 wrote:On September 04 2019 21:38 Durnuu wrote:
Stats going for dumb attacks because Terran lategame is too strong, obviously I think exactly this the radius of that EMP is insane.. it seems like the protoss has no answer in straight on engages Storm is still a better ability by a mile tbh. Also feedbacks. storm is overall better but in TvP EMP is miles better the new EMP buff is absurd in TvP tbh it outclasses storm in every way range surface area damage burst damage vs damage over time of storm ghosts are overall stronger units than HT (cloak, more dps than stalker, etc) yeah, that's the problem with EMP, it's the burst damage of it, and that ghosts can cloak so if you have 1 hole then all of a sudden you get hit for say 2k damage (all the shields) in a single hit.. kinda insane. It's also hard to cover your army with observers because they are so slow they lag behind and they take up robo time.. will be interesting to keep an eye on win percentages over the next few months
It used to be much harder. Remember WoL? i 'member! Terran had a fleet of vikings and all he had to do was a scan and a-move of vikings, then a-move of ghosts because "you're out of detection mate"  Ah, good ol' times in mah lulz league when one a-mover accused the other of a-moving
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On September 04 2019 21:57 Penev wrote:
bankcraft incoming
If Maru uses the bunker bank mechanic he's fine
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On September 04 2019 21:51 Z3nith wrote:
I kinda have a feeling we're going to see Protoss really struggle over the next few months with this new patch.
Protoss is weaker than before and the best korean Protoss are leaving soon...
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On September 04 2019 21:49 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2019 21:46 BerserkSword wrote:On September 04 2019 21:43 goody153 wrote:On September 04 2019 21:41 La1 wrote:On September 04 2019 21:38 Durnuu wrote:
Stats going for dumb attacks because Terran lategame is too strong, obviously I think exactly this the radius of that EMP is insane.. it seems like the protoss has no answer in straight on engages Storm is still a better ability by a mile tbh. Also feedbacks. storm is overall better but in TvP EMP is miles better the new EMP buff is absurd in TvP tbh it outclasses storm in every way range surface area damage burst damage vs damage over time of storm ghosts are overall stronger units than HT (cloak, more dps than stalker, etc) that's why you have disruptors, colosus and are for so that you have a chance to fight back with a mixed composition
disruptors are garbage at the highest level. It's a joke for pro players to consistently dodge disruptors
colossi and disruptors can both be dived upon and killed with even bio with the new emp being able to wipe out their shields like nothing too
just watch hero vs cure in group b of this code s
hero is one of the greatest protoss players of all time and he became so by virtue of his absurd micro and unit control. it was one of the most disgusting things ive seen in sc2, second only to neeb losing to elazer in the lategame in gsl vs the world.....protoss is doomed
look at g1 hero vs cure and see how cure completely steamrolled hero in an open map engagement....and hero tried everything - HT in warp prisms, colossi, and disruptors. nothign worked even with his legendary micro
cure started out with a pure bio army with inferior supply against a heavier supply protoss army with greater tech and still just steamrolled him. bio runs train on protoss ground armies once emps blanked everything
it's over for protoss pros in tvp. it's a joke tbh
Even when hero built a forest of shield batteries against cure's ghost in g2, cure just ran him over
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you'd think a player like Maru should be able to hurt a zerg with the earlier stim
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On September 04 2019 21:58 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2019 21:49 goody153 wrote:On September 04 2019 21:46 BerserkSword wrote:On September 04 2019 21:43 goody153 wrote:On September 04 2019 21:41 La1 wrote:On September 04 2019 21:38 Durnuu wrote:
Stats going for dumb attacks because Terran lategame is too strong, obviously I think exactly this the radius of that EMP is insane.. it seems like the protoss has no answer in straight on engages Storm is still a better ability by a mile tbh. Also feedbacks. storm is overall better but in TvP EMP is miles better the new EMP buff is absurd in TvP tbh it outclasses storm in every way range surface area damage burst damage vs damage over time of storm ghosts are overall stronger units than HT (cloak, more dps than stalker, etc) that's why you have disruptors, colosus and are for so that you have a chance to fight back with a mixed composition disruptors are garbage at the highest level. It's a joke for pro players to consistently dodge disruptors colossi and disruptors can both be dived upon and killed with even bio with the new emp being able to wipe out their shields like nothing too just watch hero vs cure in group b of this code s hero is one of the greatest protoss players of all time and he became so by virtue of his absurd micro and unit control. it was one of the most disgusting things ive seen in sc2, second only to neeb losing to elazer in the lategame in gsl vs the world.....protoss is doomed look at g1 hero vs cure and see how cure completely steamrolled hero in an open map engagement....and hero tried everything - HT in warp prisms, colossi, and disruptors. nothign worked even with his legendary micro cure started out with a pure bio army with inferior supply against a heavier supply protoss army with greater tech and still just steamrolled him. bio runs train on protoss ground armies once emps blanked everything it's over for protoss pros in tvp. it's a joke tbh Even when hero built a forest of shield batteries against cure's ghost in g2, cure just ran him over
herO used to be one of the greatest Protoss players, recently he's not that great. Let's make herO great again!  Rather use Classic/Stats IMO.
Edit> Also Cure got better.
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this map kinda reminds me of cactus valley except vertical doesnt seem very unbalanced
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wtf maru's micro in this game has been really bad, like multiple times.
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wait i thought the matches for today was over lol
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Maru's marines looking like my marines : clumped and served on a plate for banelings.
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On September 04 2019 22:08 nojok wrote:
Maru's marines looking like my marines : clumped and served on a plate for banelings.
Just play like Maru
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Maru seems so dead. How do you stop zerg with half the map covered already
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What is up with Maru allowing all of those baneling hits vs Solar? So many of them could be avoided by simple pickups done by plenty of other Terrans.
Unboarding the Maru hype train here and now, I hope some other T can step it up.
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