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GSL vs. The World
2019 GSL vs. the WorldStreams & Casters
Format
- Single-elimination Bracket:
- All Matches are Bo5.
- Finals are Bo7.
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Matches
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[GSL 2019] GSL vs. The World - Day 1
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Map Pool CSS: FO-nTTaX Awesomeness: Panda Banner: GSL | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Poll: Dark vs Elazer Dark Wins (100) Elazer Wins (26) 126 total votes Your vote: Dark vs Elazer Poll: soO vs TIME TIME Wins (77) soO Wins (61) 138 total votes Your vote: soO vs TIME Poll: Maru vs Stats Stats Wins (63) Maru Wins (62) 125 total votes Your vote: Maru vs Stats | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
TIME did so well in Asus Rog vs Serral, but the Koreans know him way better and soO had enough time to prepare I think. So I don't think TIME will look quite as strong this time. | ||
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Elentos
55458 Posts
On August 14 2019 03:54 Musicus wrote: Thanks Pande!!! TIME did so well in Asus Rog vs Serral, but the Koreans know him way better and soO had enough time to prepare I think. So I don't think TIME will look quite as strong this time. soO is also very much a "When in doubt, roach all-in" type of guy while Serral tends to play more straight-up. Could lead to some strangeness. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
Also: did you remember to vote for Luolis today? | ||
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yhellothere12
46 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Should be easy for Dark, Stats, and ShoWTime | ||
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Elentos
55458 Posts
On August 14 2019 05:00 Fango wrote: soO isn't good anymore tbh. I don't see him beating TIME. Should be easy for Dark, Stats, and ShoWTime Did you know you live in a bizzaro world where ZvT has been soO's best match-up for the past 6 months? | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 14 2019 05:07 Elentos wrote: Did you know you live in a bizzaro world where ZvT has been soO's best match-up for the past 6 months? Has soO actually been good in anything for the last six months? | ||
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Durnuu
13319 Posts
On August 14 2019 05:18 Fango wrote: Has soO actually been good in anything for the last six months? Technically, IEM Katowice happened sometime in the last six months  | ||
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Elentos
55458 Posts
On August 14 2019 05:18 Fango wrote: Has soO actually been good in anything for the last six months? He's been good at winning IEM Katowice in the last six months. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4902 Posts
 TIME heart -> TIME head ->  Stats heart -> Marubtw really sad for the casters... Where is my RotterdaM? | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
 Dark 3-0 ElazersoO 3-1 TimeMaru 1-3 StatsNeeb 3-2 ShoWTimEMaru vs Serral ruined forever | ||
Poopi
France12761 Posts
At least I might have a chance to catch Maru - Stats at a decent hour | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
On August 14 2019 06:22 Poopi wrote: Wtf 8am, why so early T_T? At least I might have a chance to catch Maru - Stats at a decent hour It's on from like 2am-6am for east coast US  | ||
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necrosexy
451 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Yeah that's a bit suprising. I'd have expected Maynarde and Rotti to be there | ||
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feardragon
United States970 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/jxRkXjr.png) I hope Maynarde and Rotti aren't upset they flew all the way out to Korea to cast and then I just took their spot. I didn't even bring a dress shirt. | ||
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yht9657
1810 Posts
TIME. How could this happen? I mean Gyuri is great but she really needs to step up at drawing bracket. Doesn't matter, neither of these two are gonna beat Maru/Stats in an offline BO5. | ||
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AlexZhang1012
63 Posts
Dark 3:1 ElazerTIME 2:3 soOMaru 2:3 StatsNeeb 3:2 ShoWTimE | ||
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CreightonOlsen
United States366 Posts
On August 14 2019 10:22 feardragon wrote: Oh that's cool. I didn't know I was casting but I guess maybe I should start doing some last minute prep work. I hope I'm getting paid to do this because I don't remember signing a contract. I hope Maynarde and Rotti aren't upset they flew all the way out to Korea to cast and then I just took their spot. I didn't even bring a dress shirt. Congrats on the surprise gig. I can loan you one of my suits if you didn't pack one - you're a 40 short, right? xD | ||
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hunterqiji
12 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
Dark 3-1 ElazersoO 3-2 TimeMaru 1-3 StatsNeeb 3-1 ShoWTimE | ||
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BjoernK
194 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19202 Posts
On August 14 2019 09:06 TentativePanda wrote: It's on from like 2am-6am for east coast US East coaster here. Sleep in and watch on live stream but rewind to beginning. Skip all commercials and fluff by fast forwarding when neccessary. I personally love waking up knowing I have 2-4 hrs of content ready to be watched.  | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Edit> I still think he will win 3:1, but that's my heart choice, head doesn't know | ||
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Moonerz
United States442 Posts
On August 14 2019 16:30 BisuDagger wrote: East coaster here. Sleep in and watch on live stream but rewind to beginning. Skip all commercials and fluff by fast forwarding when neccessary. I personally love waking up knowing I have 2-4 hrs of content ready to be watched. Yep, looking forward to having SC to watch all day at work  The only downside is having to avoid TL like the plague all day and I cant spam P R O T O S S E D in twitch chat  | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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BanGaRang_42
1 Post
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Togekiss
Canada154 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
On August 14 2019 22:26 Moonerz wrote: Yep, looking forward to having SC to watch all day at work The only downside is having to avoid TL like the plague all day and I cant spam P R O T O S S E D in twitch chat You can still spam protossed even in a vod of a live stream | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On August 15 2019 07:14 Conut wrote: You can still spam protossed even in a vod of a live stream That's what I love about TL. You always get the best advice here. | ||
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FBTsingLoong
China410 Posts
LPN,go go! | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
I find your lack of faith in Serral extremely disturbing. | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On August 15 2019 05:56 Togekiss wrote: Please please please Maru, win a weekender for once and cast the naysayers aside! This is how I feel. I want Maru to wake up and go on a rampage. But I don't dare get my hopes up. Stats is kind of an interesting case, in terms of rivalries. Or, I don't know that it's a rivalry exactly, I'm not sure what to call it, but he's taken both Maru and Serral to the brink. He's won and lost against both at the height of their powers. In my head, he's become something like a hidden character in the Maru-Serral discussion. | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
On August 14 2019 16:30 BisuDagger wrote: East coaster here. Sleep in and watch on live stream but rewind to beginning. Skip all commercials and fluff by fast forwarding when neccessary. I personally love waking up knowing I have 2-4 hrs of content ready to be watched. And oh hell yeah Im looking forward to watching it. Just worried I’ll get impatient and check the results because I’m so hyped haha | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17601 Posts
On August 15 2019 12:06 TentativePanda wrote: Hey guys, how long after the stream ends do you think sc2links will have twitch VODs of it up? Trying to watch it unspoiled when I get up in the morning tomorrow why not just watch the past broadcast? https://www.twitch.tv/gsl/videos?filter=archives&sort=time | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
On August 15 2019 12:29 Die4Ever wrote: why not just watch the past broadcast? https://www.twitch.tv/gsl/videos?filter=archives&sort=time Thats what my plan was, sorta what I meant. But I also don’t know how quickly twitch updates that on channels (I usually just watch twitch live if you can tell haha). Is it automatic? I’d be waking up like right after the broadcast ends | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17601 Posts
On August 15 2019 12:52 TentativePanda wrote: Thats what my plan was, sorta what I meant. But I also don’t know how quickly twitch updates that on channels (I usually just watch twitch live if you can tell haha). Is it automatic? I’d be waking up like right after the broadcast ends yea past broadcasts are automatic, they show up even while the stream is still going | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
On August 15 2019 12:54 Die4Ever wrote: yea past broadcasts are automatic, they show up even while the stream is still going Ah wow, good to know. Thank you! This is starting so early today wow. Will be good for you Murican's Hmm? It’s alright for west cost people, but literally the absolute worst timing for east cost, and not so great for the people in between | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17601 Posts
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NoS-Craig
Australia3090 Posts
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Meeii
155 Posts
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
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Crocolisk Dundee
870 Posts
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romson87
Poland487 Posts
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droppanda
Australia176 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17601 Posts
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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Tsubbi
Germany7967 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
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Terra1
Philippines312 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
Well, happy for Elazer I guess. | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3090 Posts
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yht9657
1810 Posts
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Uni1987
Netherlands642 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
edit: didn't go as bad as i thought. edit2: yes it did. way too few to counter them. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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NoS-Craig
Australia3090 Posts
Twitch chat is as bad as ever. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On August 15 2019 15:38 Xain0n wrote: Mmm didn't understand this. Dark massed mutas, Elazer built 1 spore crawler everywhere, had a couple of queens and 3-4 hydras, morphed rest into lurkers -> bad anti air. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On August 15 2019 15:39 Alejandrisha wrote: one or two spores at the choke would have been amazing. for the price of 2 drones and half a sec of mineral income.. they were on the way, it was just too late | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
Edit: don't play zerg is this normal? | ||
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starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
On August 15 2019 15:45 NExt wrote: Elazer is panicking? He's 60/130. Over overlorded Edit: don't play zerg is this normal? no Elazer has a tendency to build way too many overlords | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 15:48 starkiller123 wrote: no Elazer has a tendency to build way too many overlords or he has a tendency to panic :D dark's play is really confusing me. seems super overconfident. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 15 2019 15:49 Alejandrisha wrote: or he has a tendency to panic :D dark's play is really confusing me. seems super overconfident. It's exactly as confident as someone as good as Dark should be. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 15 2019 15:39 HolydaKing wrote: Dark massed mutas, Elazer built 1 spore crawler everywhere, had a couple of queens and 3-4 hydras, morphed rest into lurkers -> bad anti air. Hahah yea thank you xD However, I meant I didn't understand why would Elazer not attack right after having built so many roaches. | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3090 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 15:51 Ej_ wrote: It's exactly as confident as someone as good as Dark should be. its exactly the kind of mindset that opens you up to lose to some one you should never lose to, though. not that that will happen i think game 2 showed just how different the levels are as if we didn't already know. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15878 Posts
On August 15 2019 15:45 NExt wrote: Elazer is panicking? He's 60/130. Over overlorded Edit: don't play zerg is this normal? that's not to bad. I remember him having 78/200 once | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 15:53 Xain0n wrote: Hahah yea thank you xD However, I meant I didn't understand why would Elazer not attack right after having built so many roaches. he's playing very indecisively. in this series he would be better off committing to an iffy decision that sit in limbo which cost him game 2 | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On August 15 2019 15:53 Xain0n wrote: Hahah yea thank you xD However, I meant I didn't understand why would Elazer not attack right after having built so many roaches. In that game Dark had like 7 spines (I think that was the one?), his only real way to attack would've been nydus. Else he probably would have failed. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15878 Posts
On August 15 2019 15:53 Xain0n wrote: Hahah yea thank you xD However, I meant I didn't understand why would Elazer not attack right after having built so many roaches. superior EU ZvZ decisionmaking | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 15 2019 15:54 Charoisaur wrote: that's not to bad. I remember him having 78/200 once And he won the game :D Peak hydras were something else. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
(I really doubt it tho) | ||
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Crocolisk Dundee
870 Posts
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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NoS-Craig
Australia3090 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 15 2019 15:56 HolydaKing wrote: In that game Dark had like 7 spines (I think that was the one?), his only real way to attack would've been nydus. Else he probably would have failed. He had a window in which he could attack even without Nydus I think. By the way, as predicted, Dark is not stomping Elazer; we have a game 5! | ||
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TheGoatPuncher
76 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
edit: omg that baneling hit in the main | ||
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AlexZhang1012
63 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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TheGoatPuncher
76 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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tigon_ridge
482 Posts
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tigon_ridge
482 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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ElPres1dente
89 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:20 HolydaKing wrote: this is such a great series, both are about the same power in ZvZ. would have to check the player rules but idk how one would even do that. things have changed since kespa, for sure | ||
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capu
Finland224 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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Goolpsy
Denmark301 Posts
No a fan of ZvZ, but this is Amazing! And that Viper control - Elazer is really impressive | ||
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TheGoatPuncher
76 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:27 AzAlexZ wrote: working on a project so not watching. Who's winning? Viewers. Seriously though, hard to say. It's 2-2 and this one's super even. | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: elazer is going to win this purely on better viper control dese koreans are only good at OP infestor control | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:28 TheGoatPuncher wrote: Viewers. Seriously though, hard to say. It's 2-2 and this one's super even. Damn, legit sad that I can't watch :'( | ||
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capu
Finland224 Posts
edit: not game ending though edit: GG Elazer takes it 3 - 2 ! | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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True_Spike
Poland3414 Posts
Excellent bo5 overall. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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Crocolisk Dundee
870 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
Impressive... | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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tigon_ridge
482 Posts
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Terra1
Philippines312 Posts
Grats Elazer though | ||
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Azurues
Malaysia5612 Posts
That last game had me on edge | ||
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Penev
28451 Posts
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
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Argonauta
Spain4902 Posts
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:34 lolfail9001 wrote: We are 1 match in and TLnet preview is already off. Impressive... i think elazer and his mom are the only 2 people in the world who could foresee this result | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
Too bad Elazer won. | ||
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osliang
China108 Posts
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Kitai
United States868 Posts
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DocSchlakk
Austria172 Posts
well deserved win, dark kept up pretty good but elazers viper control was just a notch better | ||
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romson87
Poland487 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:36 osliang wrote: So, what were all the predictions of Elazer again ? :D getting blown out and missing the bus and having to walk back to europe | ||
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AlexZhang1012
63 Posts
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NoS-Craig
Australia3090 Posts
Edit: So, what were all the predictions of Elazer again ? :D Did you think Elazer was going to win Osliang? | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
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stilt
France2743 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:34 Alejandrisha wrote: that is the biggest upset i can remember since sjow took a game off of Life like 6 years ago What the fuck, Dark's zvz is so overestimated it's insane. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:37 stilt wrote: What the fuck, Dark zvz is so overestimated it's insane. screenshot me your liquibet saying elazer would win | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:35 Andi_Goldberger wrote: damn. eu zvz delivering :D yep! i knew this was possible, as for elazer, he also won against solar and armani (twice) this year. really not too bad record against KR Zergs: http://aligulac.com/players/5847/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=z&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= | ||
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Edmon
United Kingdom259 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:35 Alejandrisha wrote: i think elazer and his mom are the only 2 people in the world who could foresee this result I mean, i know that Koreans has kind of shown that they do dominate the scene still, but fairly certain we knew about strength of EU ZvZ since last year at least? | ||
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stilt
France2743 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:38 Alejandrisha wrote: screenshot me your liquibet saying elazer would win I don't do liquidbet, that say, if you really think this is the same kind of upset, it's very telling about your limited knowledge about the current scene. Just like putting Life vs sjow as the biggest upset since the last 6y actually. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:38 lolfail9001 wrote: I mean, i know that Koreans has kind of shown that they do dominate the scene still, but fairly certain we knew about strength of EU ZvZ since last year at least? i wouldn't have put elazer at the top of the euro scene, even if its zvz euro vs kr.. i don't understand this whole thing about euro zvz being ahead of kr zvz anyway. is it because europe has serral?? how would such a pattern emerge | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:38 Edmon wrote: Now all we need is for TIME to beat SOO and Korea will be punching the express train ticket to humbletown. Why? soO is worse each month further from the IEM. So unless he found his lost mojo he's not the clear favorite here as he used to be. But hey, he has many fans, so he got in. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:39 Alejandrisha wrote: i wouldn't have put elazer at the top of the euro scene, even if its zvz euro vs kr.. i don't understand this whole thing about euro zvz being ahead of kr zvz anyway. is it because europe has serral?? how would such a pattern emerge Because Europe simply plays more ZvZs at their higher levels, it's this simple, just look at all the Reynor vs Serral matches. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:35 Alejandrisha wrote: i think elazer and his mom are the only 2 people in the world who could foresee this result Not only, "EZ" Liquibet for me. On a serious note, I have been saying for the last ten days that Elazer would have been a tough opponent for Dark; I initially predicted Dark 3-2 but I eventually bet on Elazer. Do never undervalue EU ZvZ! | ||
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:39 stilt wrote: I don't do liquidbet, that say, if you really think this is the same kind of upset, it's very telling about your limited knowledge about the current scene. Just like putting Life vs sjow as the biggest upset since the last 6y actually. i do think it's the same kind of upset.. it's reigning gsl champion. easy to say you knew it all along with no proof or nothing on the line just saying it to be right. why to take that stance is lost on me. it's like kissing your sister. high five. | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3090 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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JasonOfAeson
33 Posts
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WenHe
34 Posts
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3995 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:39 stilt wrote: I don't do liquidbet, that say, if you really think this is the same kind of upset, it's very telling about your limited knowledge about the current scene. Just like putting Life vs sjow as the biggest upset since the last 6y actually. Nah life vs sjow maybe biggest upset of all time. Like a C-tier foreigner taking down the best player in the world and heavy tournament favorite. Was a great match. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:41 Alejandrisha wrote: i do think it's the same kind of upset.. it's reigning gsl champion. easy to say you knew it all along with no proof or nothing on the line just saying it to be right. why to take that stance is lost on me. it's like kissing your sister. high five. Dark is not even close to what monster Life was and considering how weak the Korean Zerg play was in the past months we can't even say much about his ZvZ. Which has just shown(and Elazer isn't the best ZvZ out there) Edit> If you keep comparing to this match you're actually downplaying how good Elazer is in ZvZ. MeomaikA v Maru is way bigger than this considering Maru's ZvT and how MeomaikA is not even close the level he should have to win it. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:43 deacon.frost wrote: Dark is not even close to what monster Life was and considering how weak the Korean Zerg play was in the past months we can't even say much about his ZvZ. Which has just shown(and Elazer isn't the best ZvZ out there) what would you say was a bigger upset since sjow vs life since, in that case? | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:43 Alejandrisha wrote: lmao this thread is hilarious. suddenly elazer getting into the tournament was not a meme at all and everyone knew he was going to win vs reigning gsl champion I believe many people here would agree that Elazer facing Dark was one of the best brackets for him. I'm sure any non Z is more favored against Elazer than Dark was. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:44 Schelim wrote: i'd be lying to say i expected this, but i was really rooting for Elazer once the casters all just laughed him off. that was so disrespectful. i agree. i really wanted him to win after artosis was ragging on him but i'm not going to pretend i believed he would win, even after game 1 and game 2 | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15878 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:43 Alejandrisha wrote: lmao this thread is hilarious. suddenly elazer getting into the tournament was not a meme at all and everyone knew he was going to win vs reigning gsl champion Elazer is 8th in WCS ranking so I don't think him getting into the tournament is a "meme". | ||
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Alejandrisha
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On August 15 2019 16:45 HolydaKing wrote: I believe many people here would agree that Elazer facing Dark was one of the best brackets for him. I'm sure any non Z is more favored against Elazer than Dark was. well if you asked them now, obviously they would. that's what i find hilarious. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:45 Argonauta wrote: I also knew after Elazer won that Elazer was going to win LOL <3 | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
Gratz to Elazer, glad he proved himself in that fifth game instead of just winning the early game like 1 and 4. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:44 Alejandrisha wrote: what would you say was a bigger upset since sjow vs life since, in that case? Maru v Meomaika? Read my edit, you're downplaying Elazer and overestimating Dark. (both in ZvZ) | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:44 Alejandrisha wrote: what would you say was a bigger upset since sjow vs life since, in that case? soO vs Dark in Kespa cup final. | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:46 deacon.frost wrote: Maru v Meomaika? Read my edit, you're downplaying Elazer and overestimating Dark. (both in ZvZ) Maru v. Meomaika was just all-in's though, right? That's not too shocking for a player to lose 0-2 to all-ins. Meanwhile pretty sure game 3 of sjow vs life was 18 minutes or something | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:46 deacon.frost wrote: Maru v Meomaika? Read my edit, you're downplaying Elazer and overestimating Dark. (both in ZvZ) didn't see that match. sounds like an upset as i've never heard of him. will have to watch. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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NoS-Craig
Australia3090 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:45 Argonauta wrote: I also knew after Elazer won that Elazer was going to win Pretty much. I see this in LR threads from time to time. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:45 Alejandrisha wrote: i agree. i really wanted him to win after artosis was ragging on him but i'm not going to pretend i believed he would win, even after game 1 and game 2 Check my previous posts. It's more or less as you say, just a couple of people thought it could be close and many were predicting Dark slaughtering Elazer 3-0. | ||
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Gina
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On August 15 2019 16:45 HolydaKing wrote: I believe many people here would agree that Elazer facing Dark was one of the best brackets for him. I'm sure any non Z is more favored against Elazer than Dark was. That's exactly what he said in pre-match interview himself =) | ||
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seemsgood
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On August 15 2019 16:46 deacon.frost wrote: Maru v Meomaika? Read my edit, you're downplaying Elazer and overestimating Dark. (both in ZvZ) snipe builds beating top players is nowhere as huge as the underdog beating the tops in a straight macro game | ||
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On August 15 2019 16:48 Gina wrote: That's exactly what he said in pre-match interview himself =) Precisely! A Terran would have easily dispatched Elazed and most likely any Protoss too. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:50 seemsgood wrote: snipe builds beating top players is nowhere as huge as the underdog beating the tops in a straight macro game The issue is that Elazer isn't as bad as Sjow was, and he's a great player in ZvZ. Had he met T or P of Dark's caliber, it would be someything different, but he's really good in ZvZ. Maru wasn't sniped, there wasn't any special builds, Maru just lost to all ins he's supposed to defend because he's way better | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:52 Argonauta wrote: Now if soO loses, which I think is likely, but I will know for sure once the match ends, we are out of Kr Zergs. Where is Rogue and why is Fantasy here? Fan's didn't vote by quality but by names? Fan vote makes this tournament so great | ||
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TheOneAboveU
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Need
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Dark is lucky he didn't run into Serral to get 3-0'd again | ||
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nojok
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Time : "I will be happy if I win a single game." soO : "See? That's what I'm talking about, stop looking down on me, you won't even kill a drone you scrub." | ||
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Argonauta
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On August 15 2019 16:54 Need wrote: Lol we sent our #8th player to murder KR's #1. L2p KR Who are you and what organization you and elazer belong? | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:52 Argonauta wrote: Now if soO loses, which I think is likely, but I will know for sure once the match ends, we are out of Kr Zergs. Where is Rogue and why is Fantasy here? But is there even a need for Korean Zergs. At this point KR exists to supply good Terran and Protoss players, so EU zergs don't dominate the world. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4902 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:56 Musicus wrote: But is there even a need for Korean Zergs. At this point KR exists to supply good Terran and Protoss players, so EU zergs don't dominate the world. I like variety in GSL, given that I cannot have it in WCS since the lock | ||
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Xain0n
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Delicious, don't you think? | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:57 Argonauta wrote: I like variety in GSL, given that I cannot have it in WCS since the lock True, with region lock we still need Korean Zergs I guess. | ||
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Need
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On August 15 2019 16:55 Argonauta wrote: Who are you and what organization you and elazer belong? The World | ||
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Edmon
United Kingdom259 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:40 deacon.frost wrote: Why? soO is worse each month further from the IEM. So unless he found his lost mojo he's not the clear favorite here as he used to be. But hey, he has many fans, so he got in. There is always this sentiment that not all the matches are world versus Korea to make sure some world players "make it to the Ro4". Now that situation might be totally inverted, with the only Korean making it due to a KvK. | ||
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:40 lolfail9001 wrote: Because Europe simply plays more ZvZs at their higher levels, it's this simple, just look at all the Reynor vs Serral matches. Not just because of Serral. We had a deep roster of top zergs for a really long time now. Who do we have in Korea? Like 3 guys swapping positions: Dark, soO, Rogue. Then solar and quite a bit behind Impact. This didn't change for quite a while now. In EU we had over the course of the last years: Snute, Nerchio, Elazer, Zanster, Sortof, Denver, Lambo, Serral, Reynor, Namshar, Stephano, TLO, Bly. That's a really thick layer of Zerg players who are able to peak every now and then and make competition really tough. They play ZvZ against each other all the time. Also there are many more very good Zergs competing with those top players in online cups regularly. How did this pattern emerge? I don't know... we just happened to have some really strong Zergs historically. Also my impression is, that more good zerg players kept on competing than in the other races? I mean, apart from Serral, Reynor and Denver all the names I listed above are some serious veterans | ||
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Need
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On August 15 2019 16:59 fronkschnonk wrote: Not just because of Serral. We had a deep roster of top zergs for a really long time now. Who do we have in Korea? Like 3 guys swapping positions: Dark, soO, Rogue. Then solar and quite a bit behind Impact. This didn't change for quite a while now. In EU we had over the course of the last years: Snute, Nerchio, Elazer, Zanster, Sortof, Denver, Lambo, Serral, Reynor, Namshar, Stephano, TLO, Bly. That's a really thick layer of Zerg players who are able to peak every now and then and make competition really tough. They play ZvZ against each other all the time. Also there are many more very good Zergs competing with those top players in online cups regularly. How did this pattern emerge? I don't know... we just happened to have some really strong Zergs historically. Also my impression is, that more good zerg players kept on competing than in the other races? I mean, apart from Serral, Reynor and Denver all the names I listed above are some serious veterans Lol ignoring Ragnarok but including all those no name EU Zergs | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:58 Edmon wrote: There is always this sentiment that not all the matches are world versus Korea to make sure some world players "make it to the Ro4". Now that situation might be totally inverted, with the only Korean making it due to a KvK. Don't know, soO's ZvZ should be still good, if he survives TIME Neeb should be an underdog to Maru/Stats too. What are you talking about? Didn't you mean RO8? | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15878 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:59 fronkschnonk wrote: Not just because of Serral. We had a deep roster of top zergs for a really long time now. Who do we have in Korea? Like 3 guys swapping positions: Dark, soO, Rogue. Then solar and quite a bit behind Impact. This didn't change for quite a while now. In EU we had over the course of the last years: Snute, Nerchio, Elazer, Zanster, Sortof, Denver, Lambo, Serral, Reynor, Namshar, Stephano, TLO, Bly. That's a really thick layer of Zerg players who are able to peak every now and then and make competition really tough. They play ZvZ against each other all the time. Also there are many more very good Zergs competing with those top players in online cups regularly. How did this pattern emerge? I don't know... we just happened to have some really strong Zergs historically. Also my impression is, that more good zerg players kept on competing than in the other races? I mean, apart from Serral, Reynor and Denver all the names I listed above are some serious veterans If you list guys like Sortof, Zanster and Denver (lol) you also must name a lot more players for korea (Leenock, Losira, Ragnarok, Armani) | ||
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Argonauta
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On August 15 2019 16:59 fronkschnonk wrote: Not just because of Serral. We had a deep roster of top zergs for a really long time now. Who do we have in Korea? Like 3 guys swapping positions: Dark, soO, Rogue. Then solar and quite a bit behind Impact. This didn't change for quite a while now. In EU we had over the course of the last years: Snute, Nerchio, Elazer, Zanster, Sortof, Denver, Lambo, Serral, Reynor, Namshar, Stephano, TLO, Bly. That's a really thick layer of Zerg players who are able to peak every now and then and make competition really tough. They play ZvZ against each other all the time. Also there are many more very good Zergs competing with those top players in online cups regularly. How did this pattern emerge? I don't know... we just happened to have some really strong Zergs historically. Also my impression is, that more good zerg players kept on competing than in the other races? I mean, apart from Serral, Reynor and Denver all the names I listed above are some serious veterans Armani, Leenock and Ragnarock also come to my mind if you are going so deep to include zanster denver or sortof | ||
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RotterdaM
Netherlands684 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:44 Schelim wrote: i'd be lying to say i expected this, but i was really rooting for Elazer once the casters all just laughed him off. that was so disrespectful. We laughed at tasteless saying this was the match he looked forward to in particular when you got maru vs stats after that ;D I mean dark vs Elazer is cool but how many people out there prefer this Zvz over maru vs stats? Just having some fun, don’t read so much into us teasing tasteless a bit | ||
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StasisField
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deacon.frost
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On August 15 2019 17:03 Charoisaur wrote: this is why people favored TIME over soO Also because soO is bad now | ||
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deacon.frost
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On August 15 2019 17:06 Charoisaur wrote: "beautiful liberation zone" Nicer than fungals? | ||
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NExt
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stilt
France2743 Posts
On August 15 2019 16:43 Pandain wrote: Nah life vs sjow maybe biggest upset of all time. Like a C-tier foreigner taking down the best player in the world and heavy tournament favorite. Was a great match. Life was in a slump at the time, Soulkey was a way better zerg (while soO would wait 2 months before his first gsl final a case can be made he was already superior, summer 2013 was quite awful in term of gsl results despite a online win against bomber, despite a win at iem ny, Life won't manage to get in blizzcon this year), sjow was on fire, he played great in a favorable meta (remember the hbm count), he was kind of washed up and that's obviously a big upset but not the biggest if you compare to Meimoka beating Maru. Anyway happy for elazer. | ||
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tigon_ridge
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Poopi
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Crush the fuck out of him, then free win against Elazer | ||
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droppanda
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HolydaKing
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Great game by TIME, barely any big mistakes. | ||
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osliang
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:07 tigon_ridge wrote: TIME has improved so much in two years. On August 15 2019 17:07 droppanda wrote: HOLY crap Time is getting good... fo rela | ||
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Edmon
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WenHe
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TIME:" I finished my goal" | ||
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seemsgood
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winning IEM was a mistake.no victory comes without a cost | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3090 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:03 Archerylady wrote: Everyone shitting on Elazer before the match, thinking Dark could overcome superior European ZvZ after getting outclassed by Serral 3 times in the last year just because he cheesed a few protosses out of GSL. https://i.imgur.com/nuzNALY.png Sometimes people get their picks wrong. Relax man | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:08 NoS-Craig wrote: Sometimes people get their picks wrong. Relax man you are mistaken. being retrospectively correct on a forum is actually the most important thing in the entire world. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:10 NoS-Craig wrote: lol I guess so. At least it shows people being passionate about starcraft. So that's one good thing out of this. i don't know if it shows passion for starcraft or passion for being right. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:08 seemsgood wrote: winning IEM was a mistake.no victory comes without a cost It's just shocking how bad soO became and considering he has a seat to Blizzcon... dah, if only it could have been transferred | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:11 deacon.frost wrote: It's just shocking how bad soO became and considering he has a seat to Blizzcon... dah, if only it could have been transferred who would you pick as your other zerg? also, wtf happened to Sniper? | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4902 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:12 Alejandrisha wrote: who would you pick as your other zerg? Rex | ||
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Alejandrisha
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ah i would pick ragnorak but if this tournament has told me anything it's that i don't know shit about shit. | ||
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NExt
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fealx
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NoS-Craig
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And as I type that Hellions go BBQ drones. | ||
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Alejandrisha
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On August 15 2019 17:14 darklycid wrote: And people always wonder why there are so few Zergs in gsl if you're balance whining just come out with it? | ||
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Musicus
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United Kingdom259 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:12 Alejandrisha wrote: who would you pick as your other zerg? also, wtf happened to Sniper? Who says I would pick Zerg? Anyway, for this tournament I would pick Rogue or Solar, both have better chances than soO by far. For Blizzcon I wouldn't pick any Zerg unless Rogue gets into his champion form. (if we're talking about replacing soO) | ||
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Argonauta
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On August 15 2019 17:16 deacon.frost wrote: Who says I would pick Zerg? Anyway, for this tournament I would pick Rogue or Solar, both have better chances than soO by far. For Blizzcon I wouldn't pick any Zerg unless Rogue gets into his champion form. (if we're talking about replacing soO) uuh because you had to vote a player for each race.. ofc you could also leave it blank | ||
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seemsgood
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On August 15 2019 17:16 Alejandrisha wrote: if you're balance whining just come out with it? Toss OP | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:16 deacon.frost wrote: Who says I would pick Zerg? Anyway, for this tournament I would pick Rogue or Solar, both have better chances than soO by far. For Blizzcon I wouldn't pick any Zerg unless Rogue gets into his champion form. (if we're talking about replacing soO) i would say you would pick zerg bc i thought it was racially picked, x amount from each race so if you eliminated one zerg you would replace it with another. rogue and solar are both good replacements. rogue has been falling off a bit, though. and i don't know if solar had the same clout when the vote was initiated that he does now. | ||
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TheGoatPuncher
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Thanks, we do our best! | ||
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Alejandrisha
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On August 15 2019 17:19 Zambrah wrote: I'm not sure if this is a foreign ascendance or Korean disrespect and underestimation, but either way it's juicy srsly. i feeling like im watching love and hip hop in korea | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:17 Argonauta wrote: uuh because you had to vote a player for each race.. ofc you could also leave it blank Well I thought it was more about Blizzcon because I want to replace soO there. But I mentioned BOTH options, so... wat? | ||
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deacon.frost
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On August 15 2019 17:19 Zambrah wrote: I'm not sure if this is a foreign ascendance or Korean disrespect and underestimation, but either way it's juicy It's soO being just bad. | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:20 Anc13nt wrote: TIME has good bio but his mech doesn't look as strong. Yeah, he's definitely a bio specialist. He's always stronger playing that style. | ||
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HolydaKing
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Charoisaur
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and then he wins a game where he lost 30 drones in the beginning... | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:24 Charoisaur wrote: and then he wins a game where he lost 30 drones in the beginning... Big throw? | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:24 Charoisaur wrote: and then he wins a game where he lost 30 drones in the beginning... Haha it's fun to see people jump band wagons so quickly. TIME has definitely imrpvoed but seriously people this is soO. | ||
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loses a ton of drones in the earlygame and wins anyway | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:27 NExt wrote: Haha it's fun to see people jump band wagons so quickly. TIME has definitely imrpvoed but seriously people this is soO. What has soO done in the past 2 months to justify not being called bad though? | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:27 NExt wrote: Haha it's fun to see people jump band wagons so quickly. TIME has definitely imrpvoed but seriously people this is soO. soO played very well after that atrocious defense but TIME did almost game ending damage; it was a throw! On a side note, having a foreign Terran is hilarious since Terran fanbois might not agree with korean elitists, while they usually overlap. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:26 NoS-Craig wrote: Glad we got some good back and forth games so far. GSL vs the World has been fun to watch so far. could not agree more. this is already an amazing tournament ; i don't care what happens the rest of the way. | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:32 Alejandrisha wrote: could not agree more. this is already an amazing tournament ; i don't care what happens the rest of the way. that's what happens when players make mistakes. it's fun for sure | ||
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seemsgood
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On August 15 2019 17:27 NExt wrote: Haha it's fun to see people jump band wagons so quickly. TIME has definitely imrpvoed but seriously people this is soO. NEED FREEDOOM ??? | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:36 HolydaKing wrote: that's what happens when players make mistakes. it's fun for sure i like games with lots of mistakes. just shows sc2 is hard as hell and adaptability and resilience are the winning traits | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:38 Argonauta wrote: starcraft is such a treat to watch we are blessed to be alive rn. and to be humans. and to be able to watch streams. the age of information is so gud. | ||
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seemsgood
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On August 15 2019 17:30 deacon.frost wrote: What has soO done in the past 2 months to justify not being called bad though? nvm dude is still bad | ||
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TheGoatPuncher
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On August 15 2019 17:38 Argonauta wrote: starcraft is such a treat to watch Now THAT we can all agree on! | ||
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HolydaKing
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On August 15 2019 17:39 TheOneAboveU wrote: What a game. How nice of soO to play like it's a tournament final after TIME went full foreigner. That's lategame soO for you. | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:39 nojok wrote: Thor vs BL, is this peak starcraft? 3/3 vs 0/0 clearly the pinnacle | ||
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tigon_ridge
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On August 15 2019 17:40 AlexZhang1012 wrote: What a game! You can see TIME's face and how he's surprised he actually won. That wasn't surprised. That was relief. He knew how much econ damage he was doing. | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:41 FBTsingLoong wrote: holy shit,tight game.I think Time could have won earlier. soo could have too when time was at like 80 supply. | ||
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On August 15 2019 16:38 Alejandrisha wrote: screenshot me your liquibet saying elazer would win ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/P3qatHt.png) | ||
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FBTsingLoong
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On August 15 2019 17:41 FataLe wrote: soo could have too when time was at like 80 supply. Yeah,both players made some mistakes. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4492 Posts
hi elazer's mom | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
well done | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4902 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:40 Schelim wrote: maybe Korean Zergs should set up a teamhouse in Europe you misspelled china | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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Aeromi
France14456 Posts
Chinese players are on the Korean server :> | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
well at that point it'd probably be easier to kidnap TIME | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:46 Circumstance wrote: So, today is an incredible day for Newbee. Thoroughly outperforming expectations on the global stage in two separate games. again, Time was the favorite here. At this moment soO has just his name, not the form. Edit> this maybe sounds harsher than intended, but as much as I want soO to be great again, currently he's far away from it. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On August 15 2019 17:47 deacon.frost wrote: again, Time was the favorite here. At this moment soO has just his name, not the form. Form is temporary, name is permanent | ||
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Geo.Rion
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I am his second mom ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/Ln4rX9l.png) | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Except for some certain Mexican player | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:51 Penev wrote: 0-3 ouch Good thing it's not all GSL vs World players, at least this way the Koreans fans will have someone to cheer for past the ro16  | ||
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Poopi
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Foreigners hold | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:52 deacon.frost wrote: And they told me soO isn't bad. Obviously he isn't and this is just a Dream Well he isn't bad just not at TIME's level in ZvT. Serral almost got crushed 3-0 too, is he bad tho? | ||
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Malinor
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Possibly a rigged bracket to make the home crowd happy. | ||
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yo TIME's English is fire | ||
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REMOVE REGION LOCK! | ||
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Schelim
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On August 15 2019 17:56 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: that gap is so tight it really starts to hurt a lot that's what she said | ||
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Charoisaur
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On August 15 2019 17:54 Geo.Rion wrote: Good thing it's not all GSL vs World players, at least this way the Koreans fans will have someone to cheer for past the ro16 now you're running your mouth but when the discussion comes again to remove region lock you're suddenly against it for some reason | ||
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nojok
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On August 15 2019 17:56 Argonauta wrote: REMOVE REGION LOCK! You want to kill the Korean scene or what? | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:56 Schelim wrote: at least one foreigner in semis yo TIME's English is fire another reason why koreans should build a teamhouse in EU | ||
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:55 Poopi wrote: Well he isn't bad just not at TIME's level in ZvT. Serral almost got crushed 3-0 too, is he bad tho? Why do you think soO's good currently? What recent results did I miss? | ||
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Vutalisk
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Me: Seriously? The worst series I have seen from soO. Absolutely horrible. His 6 choked finals are 1000x better this. It is harsh to say but I miss soO pre-IEM win so badly. I thought that win will break the curse. I think it just replaces that curse with a new and worse one. Now soO will become GSL Ro32 filler. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
Super happy for TIME and China! | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:58 The_Red_Viper wrote: Player with the better english won 2/2 times today, clearly stats and neeb to win the remaining series Why would an american have better english than a german? | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:58 The_Red_Viper wrote: Player with the better english won 2/2 times today, clearly stats and neeb to win the remaining series From what I hear in the interviews Showtime seems to be the better English speaker tbh. | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:58 Shuffleblade wrote: And now its time for the great showstoper, which Maru is showing up? I mean its in the GSL studio, he could arrive and dominate! Waiting for the return of G4L domination | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:58 Shuffleblade wrote: And now its time for the great showstoper, which Maru is showing up? I mean its in the GSL studio, he could arrive and dominate! It's not a Code S match though. | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:59 Durnuu wrote: Why would an american have better english than a german? On August 15 2019 17:59 yht9657 wrote: From what I hear in the interviews Showtime seems to be the better English speaker tbh. Good points! | ||
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Shuffleblade
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On August 15 2019 17:58 deacon.frost wrote: Why do you think soO's good currently? What recent results did I miss? He didn't say soO "isn't good" he said soO is bad. soO being a bad starcraft pro will never be true. I never get why some people think only top 12 players in the world is "good" and the rest are "bad". Sure soO isn't among the best in the world atm, doesn't mean he is bad or not good or that he shouldn't have a chance against Time. | ||
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On August 15 2019 17:57 Charoisaur wrote: now you're running your mouth but when the discussion comes again to remove region lock you're suddenly against it for some reason Obviously im joking, and as for the region lock, you're confusing me with someone else, again. 2018.11.04 On November 04 2018 21:37 Geo.Rion wrote: Open it up. Neeb. Reynor, Special, Showtime, Elazer and Scarlett have good chance against most Korean pros. Serral out shined everyone this year, so we kinda brush over the other results, but we had a Neeb top4 finish and lots of series won by some of the others. If the WCS/Blizzcon shown us anything, it s that foreigner ZvZ is better, EU zergs were biting at Serral's heels for months, but the undisputed best 2 korean zergs looked lost. Or at least Dark did. EDIT: lol, this quote aged well. Thread relevant at least | ||
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Belgium3995 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:00 deepseer wrote: What happened when soo tried to trade base but suddenly lost over 40 supply of lings and banelings without even lifting a single base? TIME's rally was on the depot with 2 libs and at least 1 tank. Attacking there was extremely inefficient. | ||
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Brazil3449 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:00 Shuffleblade wrote: He didn't say soO "isn't good" he said soO is bad. soO being a bad starcraft pro will never be true. I never get why some people think only top 12 players in the world is "good" and the rest are "bad". Sure soO isn't among the best in the world atm, doesn't mean he is bad or not good or that he shouldn't have a chance against Time. That's not how it works, you're over complicating things. You juste have to check a player's last series to determine if they're good or bad. | ||
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deepseer
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On August 15 2019 17:58 Musicus wrote: Yesterday I still said TIME is a bit overrated. Either he is a god or I didn't realize how far soO has fallen since IEM. Either way I apologize. Super happy for TIME and China! Yeah I saw your post yesterday. Some relief to you: even the Chinese casters (SCboy) predicted that soO would win. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:59 NoS-Craig wrote: How is Elazer ZvT? TIME is looking really good. I hope their series are as the ones we've seen so far. TIME/SoO was a 3-0 but it was still very entertaining. Elazer's ZvT isn't that good but the guys know each other well; I'd say TIME wins, in any of case. That was such a great bio play! | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:02 nojok wrote: That's not how it works, you're over complicating things. You juste have to check a player's last series to determine if they're good or bad. Dark lost first round in GSL vs. the World. Therefore. Dark is bad. Checks out | ||
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stilt
France2743 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:59 NoS-Craig wrote: How is Elazer ZvT? TIME is looking really good. I hope their series are as the ones we've seen so far. TIME/SoO was a 3-0 but it was still very entertaining. Hm crushed him lately, I'd say this is his worst mu currently but who knows... I think TIME will beat him without too much troubles. | ||
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Serral was struggling a lot with TIME in ASUG tournament before while Elazer historically not good with Terran. I guess TIME will move to next stage and meet Maru/Stats in the semifinal. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15878 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:01 Geo.Rion wrote: Obviously im joking, and as for the region lock, you're confusing me with someone else, again. 2018.11.04 My bad, I sometimes mix up the names Just funny how in every region-lock thread a lot of foreigner fans argue that the foreign scene would die without region-lock while a lot of them are also often shittalking koreans when they play vs foreigners. Not sure who said what or when, it's just something I noticed some foreigner fans do. | ||
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On August 15 2019 18:06 Pandain wrote: Did Maru not have an interview or did i miss it? he did have one but it was pretty short | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
"GSL Champion" "GSL Champion" "GSL Champion" "GSL Champion" | ||
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Shuffleblade
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On August 15 2019 18:02 nojok wrote: That's not how it works, you're over complicating things. You juste have to check a player's last series to determine if they're good or bad. You mean you subjectively decide who is good and bad depending on your opinion of their play? Or do you mean the winner is good and the loser bad? What about the times when some of the best players in the world have been made to look bad by the current best player in the world. Its happened lots of times in finals, are you saying the second best player in the world is bad because the best players outclassed him that series? Lets be clear, your opinion is not the defition of good or bad, I actually claim it IS more complicated than that. You think soO is BAD? Then please play him and see how that goes. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:05 Charoisaur wrote: My bad, I sometimes mix up the names Just funny how in every region-lock thread a lot of foreigner fans argue that the foreign scene would die without region-lock while a lot of them are also often shittalking koreans when they play vs foreigners. Not sure who said what or when, it's just something I noticed some foreigner fans do. Shittalking koreans is something trolls do, people shouldn't underestimate and hate on foreigners either. I think WCS would be strong enough now to welcome koreans but Code S' format should definitely be changed to be more accessible to those who don't live in Korea. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:02 deepseer wrote: Yeah I saw your post yesterday. Some relief to you: even the Chinese casters (SCboy) predicted that soO would win. Interesting! Since TIME has been in Korea for so long, I really thought soO would be prepared compared to Serral, but TIME just did it with pure skill and you can't prepare for that. | ||
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On August 15 2019 18:01 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: TIME's rally was on the depot with 2 libs and at least 1 tank. Attacking there was extremely inefficient. Seems that neither of them was micro-ing here when there was another battle in soo's base. Soo's army was blocked by the depot. He could have taken down the tank with a few lings and use other lings to lift the CC (before the liberators relocate), then break the wall with banelings. What happened (I'm not sure, the observer wasn't on the scene) was: all his banelings ran into SCVs (killed over 20) and the CC, and zerglings stuck at the wall. It seems that he didn't even destroy a depot. | ||
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:00 Shuffleblade wrote: He didn't say soO "isn't good" he said soO is bad. soO being a bad starcraft pro will never be true. I never get why some people think only top 12 players in the world is "good" and the rest are "bad". Sure soO isn't among the best in the world atm, doesn't mean he is bad or not good or that he shouldn't have a chance against Time. Well yeah, soO is better than everyone in thsi thread, but he's not tha good considering in that tournament. Also he's worse than he used to be which implies - he's bad? If you're used to be the number one Zerg and people say - look man, it's soO, it will be fine and it isn't, he's worse -> he's bad. I just see this binary, if you're not goood anymore then you're bad. And there's nothing wrong with this, everybody has their slumps. soO has one right now. Big one. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:08 Shuffleblade wrote: You mean you subjectively decide who is good and bad depending on your opinion of their play? Or do you mean the winner is good and the loser bad? What about the times when some of the best players in the world have been made to look bad by the current best player in the world. Its happened lots of times in finals, are you saying the second best player in the world is bad because the best players outclassed him that series? Lets be clear, your opinion is not the defition of good or bad, I actually claim it IS more complicated than that. You think soO is BAD? Then please play him and see how that goes. I was just mocking our current way of judging (e)sportsmen, I'm following football closely and it's that shit all the time. You read too much into it. | ||
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deepseer
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He dropped a MULE. It was a mistake because he was too nervous at the time. He intended to press E for the liberator. | ||
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osliang
China108 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:13 deepseer wrote: Time's latest message from weibo.com: He dropped a MULE. It was a mistake because he was too nervous at the time. He intended to press E for the liberator. Yes, that's why he was talking to Soo after the match, apologizing... kind of funny LOL | ||
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China6327 Posts
I totally didnt expect a 3-0! Gotta try harder next match! Although I did expose a bit of my strategies... Also the mule at the end was totally a misclick, was too nervous so sorry to soO about that. | ||
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On August 15 2019 18:20 IMSupervisor wrote: Too bad Maru didn't have recalls when caught out of position. Imagine recalling in front of storms | ||
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Charoisaur
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On August 15 2019 18:20 IMSupervisor wrote: Too bad Maru didn't have recalls when caught out of position. should have used bunker trains | ||
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Australia138 Posts
When he had to send units to the prism and zealot runbyes lol, not the storm. He would have attacked already if he didn't have to go home multiple times | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4492 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:20 IMSupervisor wrote: Too bad Maru didn't have recalls when caught out of position. when you're caught THAT much out of position he would have just ate storm after storm had maru recalled. | ||
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stilt
France2743 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:20 NExt wrote: Goddamnit Stats! Why you so good against Maru He is so good vs everyone currently (except maybe in pvp) | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15878 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:23 Elentos wrote: So TIME is gonna reach the semifinals while every other Terran is out in the first round? forein terrans OP | ||
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IMSupervisor
Australia138 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:22 FataLe wrote: when you're caught THAT much out of position he would have just ate storm after storm had maru recalled. Not the storms, but when he had to go home multiple times to the runbys and prism | ||
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Elentos
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On August 15 2019 18:22 IMSupervisor wrote: When he had to send units to the prism and zealot runbyes lol, not the storm. He would have attacked already if he didn't have to go home multiple times It's a choice to send your entire army home to take on 2 zealots, not a necessity. | ||
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On August 15 2019 18:25 Elentos wrote: It's a choice to send your entire army home to take on 2 zealots, not a necessity. Also a choice to send your stalkers and prism into a corner where they're trapped. | ||
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New Zealand4492 Posts
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Shuffleblade
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On August 15 2019 18:11 deacon.frost wrote: Well yeah, soO is better than everyone in thsi thread, but he's not tha good considering in that tournament. Also he's worse than he used to be which implies - he's bad? If you're used to be the number one Zerg and people say - look man, it's soO, it will be fine and it isn't, he's worse -> he's bad. I just see this binary, if you're not goood anymore then you're bad. And there's nothing wrong with this, everybody has their slumps. soO has one right now. Big one. You are confusing the word worse with bad, being worse at something means you aren't as good as you were before. Being bad at something mans generally not being good at something. Like how I am bad at sewing. Professional athletes are never bad at their actual sport, RO32 GSL players are never bad at starcraft. Learn language | ||
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Maybe TY but I highly doubt it | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:27 Shuffleblade wrote: You are confusing the word worse with bad, being worse at something means you aren't as good as you were before. Being bad at something mans generally not being good at something. Like how I am bad at sewing. Professional athletes are never bad at their actual sport, RO32 GSL players are never bad at starcraft. Learn language Well obviously Im ean soO is bad compared to his form and the top, not the rest of the SC2 soO is a bad pro player. Do I have to word everything in the most precise way to people stop nit picking? C'mon, soO is not good ATM. Also go learn yourself. I'm fine, thanks. | ||
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nojok
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On August 15 2019 18:30 Poopi wrote: TIME is our last hope I think Maybe TY but I highly doubt it Blizzard is terran's last hope :p | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4492 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:32 yht9657 wrote: Stats going easy on Maru by forgetting his +2 armor was he double forge? I missed it | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Doubt it. Nothing's gonna change. | ||
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
I think they'd rather see foreign players win so sadly they will always nerf koreans terrans | ||
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stilt
France2743 Posts
Maru is at 6.5k in korean ladder, maybe he would have better chance in pvp :p | ||
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romson87
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On August 15 2019 18:31 Elentos wrote: Maru getting obliterated this hard multiple games in a row is something we haven't seen in a while. But it's oddly satisfying Not as satisfying as the omnipotent Dark losing to a foreigner | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:33 NExt wrote: I believe. C'mon Maru! It's a weekender Maru, it's better to start believing in Stats | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:33 Poopi wrote: I think they'd rather see foreign players win so sadly they will always nerf koreans terrans There is one incoming patch literally nerfing Protoss and Zerg(mostly) while buffing Terran, so not really. Stats is in top shape right now, but Maru is underperforming; can't believe I am saying this xd. | ||
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On August 15 2019 18:33 romson87 wrote: Not as satisfying as the omnipotent Dark losing to a foreigner Meh it was ZvZ. The only matchup where he's consistently vulnerable. I would have liked to see him against TIME much more than Elazer vs TIME. | ||
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seemsgood
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On August 15 2019 18:33 Elentos wrote: If there's any map where Maru has a shot this would have to be it. the green map s been saving terrans many times | ||
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France12761 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:36 Elentos wrote: Meh it was ZvZ. The only matchup where he's consistently vulnerable. I would have liked to see him against TIME much more than Elazer vs TIME. He would have crushed TIME Elazer is probably gonna lose though | ||
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HolydaKing
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On August 15 2019 18:39 digmouse wrote: LMAO Maru is not worthy of the Serral match up everyone craves. Stats is the real endboss. But tbh TY can beat Serral too, and there's potentially Reynor on the way. We'll see! | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
I love it. Apparently I cheer for the underdogs :D | ||
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Argonauta
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On August 15 2019 18:39 Terra1 wrote: Weekender curse (except WESG) and invitationals! | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3995 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:40 dbRic1203 wrote: Dark, Soo, Maru out. I love it. Apparently I cheer for the underdogs :D only Stats is really not an underdog. He's been looking fantastic! | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:39 NoS-Craig wrote: Maru owned 3-0 wow. I was really hoping to see some strong TvP. That was just a stomp. From Maru. In a weekender. Against Stats of all people. I was expecting 3:1 for Stats while Maru taking one random game by some shenanigans. Except the "surprise mech in PvT" he usually doesn't play very well in these tournaments. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:40 NoS-Craig wrote: Not sure if Serral vs Maru is a dream matchup of mine after seeing that. yeah, im cool with Serral vs Stats in every tourney ever for the rest of sc2's life | ||
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:40 NoS-Craig wrote: Not sure if Serral vs Maru is a dream matchup of mine after seeing that. Since Serral almost got bopped by TIME it would have been as disappointing as Stats - Maru. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:40 dbRic1203 wrote: Dark, Soo, Maru out. I love it. Apparently I cheer for the underdogs :D TIME and Stats were the favorites for many people, not sure if you're following the same SC2 and forums | ||
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MoDiV
United States90 Posts
. Maru loses | ||
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starkiller123
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Charoisaur
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NExt
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HolydaKing
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On August 15 2019 18:42 Charoisaur wrote: Stats is a savage. Beating Serral 2 times in a row isn't enough, he wants to continue bullying him. He wants revenge of course, he lost in the final last year. | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3995 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:42 Charoisaur wrote: Stats is a savage. Beating Serral 2 times in a row isn't enough, he wants to continue bullying him. How can they meet if Serral loses to TY though? | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:44 deacon.frost wrote: How can they meet if Serral loses to TY though? they re doing the team games this year as well, right? | ||
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yht9657
1810 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:43 NExt wrote: Who is the best Stats sniper? Showtime or. Neeb? I'll cheer for them lol Neither of them is favoured I'm afraid. | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3995 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:42 Charoisaur wrote: Stats is a savage. Beating Serral 2 times in a row isn't enough, he wants to continue bullying him. Stats is one of the smartest players out there. He knows he has a mental advantage this time around and he wants to keep capitalizing on that. Damn, he is good. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:45 Geo.Rion wrote: they re doing the team games this year as well, right? that's just BO1 | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:42 Poopi wrote: Since Serral almost got bopped by TIME it would have been as disappointing as Stats - Maru. True story man, true story. It's not like TIME truly seems good and Maru plays terribly during weekenders; Serral would have won. | ||
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darklycid
3374 Posts
I mean Showtime beat Stats 2:0 at Asus but that was only groupstage Stats | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
Showtime for sure, he beat Stats at ASUS Rog! He would be the underdog of course. | ||
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:46 Xain0n wrote: True story man, true story. It's not like TIME truly seems good and Maru plays terribly during weekenders; Serral would have won. Maru doesn't play terribly during weekenders. Yeah sure, keep being delusional it's almost becoming funny. | ||
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Elentos
55458 Posts
Showtime beat Stats at ASUS. Stats PvP can be shaky at times. But nobody in the tournament is really "favored" against Stats. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:44 deacon.frost wrote: How can they meet if Serral loses to TY though? then xeinon to the suicide watch but mary s lost means noonius is gonna get high to da moon so its still a dark day for me nonetheless | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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Elentos
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On August 15 2019 18:47 Schelim wrote: Elazer vs Fantasy finals confirmed I'm more of a TIME vs Heromarine kind of guy myself. | ||
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Gina
241 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:46 Poopi wrote: Maru doesn't play terribly during weekenders. Yeah sure, keep being delusional it's almost becoming funny. I am the delusional one? Maru won one weekender in his whole career. I was expecting Maru to advance believing in his TvP but he played way below his level; I can't say I'm disappointed tho. | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:48 Elentos wrote: I'm more of a TIME vs Heromarine kind of guy myself. Ah, a man of culture I see. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:48 Elentos wrote: I'm more of a TIME vs Heromarine kind of guy myself. But TIME v Fantasy would bring us some crazy games. If only Bly would be here | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:49 Gina wrote: Poor guy didn't only have to lose, he keeps getting autocorrected to Mary It's 100% intentional. HOLY MARY! | ||
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Elentos
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:31 deacon.frost wrote: Well obviously Im ean soO is bad compared to his form and the top, not the rest of the SC2 soO is a bad pro player. Do I have to word everything in the most precise way to people stop nit picking? C'mon, soO is not good ATM. Also go learn yourself. I'm fine, thanks. Yeah obviously you say one thing but mean another, makes sense. I also commonly say one thing but mean another, everyone makes mistakes. Its just funny when people on the internet say "yeah, I said something that was wrong but actually I'm not wrong because what I meant was right". It is very nitpicky, I am just very tired of everything being hyperbole, even if you lose a series you are a bad player, if you win one you are awesome and amazing. There is never anything inbetween, Time is playing amazing, such a young talent, the coming of the next sc2 version of Flash for sure. soO, who cares he is just bad. Maybe Time is not the coming of the sc2 bonjwa and maybe soO isn't a bad sc2 player. How about Time played great, soO played worse but both are good players. This mentality is everywhere and it really twists the perspective and I guess it made me touchy sorry about that. | ||
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
Also NA sucks. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:55 starkiller123 wrote: it feels like Maynarde took on Wolf's legacy of forcing nicknames onto players lol I do miss the hair style analysis though. You could say that totally tilts me. | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
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Elentos
55458 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:56 TheOneAboveU wrote: I do miss the hair style analysis though. Maynarde is at the peak of hair styles in SC2 so would be unfair to analyse those lesser than himself. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:56 TheOneAboveU wrote: I do miss the hair style analysis though. You could say that totally tilts me. rip instead he is busy casting 10/10 game Overwatch | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:53 Shuffleblade wrote: Yeah obviously you say one thing but mean another, makes sense. I also commonly say one thing but mean another, everyone makes mistakes. Its just funny when people on the internet say "yeah, I said something that was wrong but actually I'm not wrong because what I meant was right". It is very nitpicky, I am just very tired of everything being hyperbole, even if you lose a series you are a bad player, if you win one you are awesome and amazing. There is never anything inbetween, Time is playing amazing, such a young talent, the coming of the next sc2 version of Flash for sure. soO, who cares he is just bad. Maybe Time is not the coming of the sc2 bonjwa and maybe soO isn't a bad sc2 player. How about Time played great, soO played worse but both are good players. This mentality is everywhere and it really twists the perspective and I guess it made me touchy sorry about that. Well I am not comparing soO to the playerbase, I am comparing him to his former himself and to the top players. In both of these comparisons he's bad. Now he's slumping thus he's bad for me. I just didn't say what other players I was comparing him with, fine, but I am not gonna compare soO to some trash just so he comes out good. He's the god damn soO and there should be some standards. Similarly I am not gonna compare Serral to some low scrub, I am gonna compare him against the best because he should be compared to the best, not to some worse players. | ||
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Elentos
55458 Posts
That is all. | ||
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:58 Elentos wrote: The probe skin's mining laser is green. That is all. Literally unplayable, I can't even tell what unit this is. | ||
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Elentos
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AlexZhang1012
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starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:59 TheOneAboveU wrote: Literally unplayable, I can't even tell what unit this is. yeah in my tvp games i will probably mistake them for banelings | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:56 Elentos wrote: Maynarde is at the peak of hair styles in SC2 so would be unfair to analyse those lesser than himself. the man is fucking metal along with his hair, its not possible to find a caster doing cast thing while playing BFG division | ||
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:57 deacon.frost wrote: Well I am not comparing soO to the playerbase, I am comparing him to his former himself and to the top players. In both of these comparisons he's bad. Now he's slumping thus he's bad for me. I just didn't say what other players I was comparing him with, fine, but I am not gonna compare soO to some trash just so he comes out good. He's the god damn soO and there should be some standards. Similarly I am not gonna compare Serral to some low scrub, I am gonna compare him against the best because he should be compared to the best, not to some worse players. He is not playing that bad but you don't accurately judge how well players play so that's probably why you are mistaken on that one? TIME was just playing as well as vs Serral, and Serral ZvT is better than soO's since a long time | ||
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Jasper_Ty
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
Edit: Ah good, he's building them now. Why would you ever not build them. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:01 Poopi wrote: He is not playing that bad but you don't accurately judge how well players play so that's probably why you are mistaken on that one? TIME was just playing as well as vs Serral, and Serral ZvT is better than soO's since a long time And soO's PvZ is as bad as his ZvT as he just lost Code S RO16 to it. So he has just ZvZ nowadays? I love soO, I want him winning shit, but if he wants to win just based on ZvZ he needs to go to the WCS | ||
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Elentos
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On August 15 2019 19:02 TheOneAboveU wrote: I get so nervous when a Protoss player doesn't built Immortals in PvP. Seems like an auto loss. Edit: Ah good, he's building them now. Why would you ever not build them. When you don't have observers and are surrounded by DTs | ||
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TheGoatPuncher
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On August 15 2019 18:55 TheOneAboveU wrote: People get nervous when we chant "Deutschland" in foreign countries, so we don't do it anymore. Also NA sucks. Oh, we Finns don't mind. We even tried to have one of your royals lead us! Also, NA is inadequate. | ||
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seemsgood
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:03 deacon.frost wrote: And soO's PvZ is as bad as his ZvT as he just lost Code S RO16 to it. So he has just ZvZ nowadays? I love soO, I want him winning shit, but if he wants to win just based on ZvZ he needs to go to the WCS Could have gone either way, he lost 1-2 each time. Bo3 got some variance. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15878 Posts
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Elentos
55458 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:03 deacon.frost wrote: And soO's PvZ is as bad as his ZvT as he just lost Code S RO16 to it. So he has just ZvZ nowadays? I love soO, I want him winning shit, but if he wants to win just based on ZvZ he needs to go to the WCS soO's ZvZ is also not in shape. | ||
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yht9657
1810 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:06 Poopi wrote: Could have gone either way, he lost 1-2 each time. Bo3 got some variance. Sure, but his trongest thing is ZvZ which isn't very helpful in Korea Yeah, this is getting worse with every comment. | ||
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Elentos
55458 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:08 yht9657 wrote: So far everyone using the new skins has lost. R I G G E D | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Nah, it's just a curse, don't buy the new skins unless you want to lose from now on! | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:08 yht9657 wrote: So far everyone using the new skins has lost. dese are skins with debuff effects apparently | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15878 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:10 seemsgood wrote: dese are skins with debuff effects apparently imagine if a bug like this gets discovered... | ||
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Elentos
55458 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:10 deacon.frost wrote: Nah, it's just a curse, don't buy the new skins unless you want to lose from now on! Very bad marketing strategy. | ||
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Gina
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Penev
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:10 seemsgood wrote: dese are skins with debuff effects apparently It's obviously a conspiracy by Activision to force everyone to buy skins since otherwise ladder play might be imbalanced. So to protect players with skins everyone without skins gets banned from laddering. Wake up sheeple. | ||
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Elentos
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On August 15 2019 19:12 Penev wrote: the Viper skin must be extra bugged considering Dark's control of them > Zerg > bugged | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Well it comes from people who introduced Diablo Immoral for the Blizzcon crowd | ||
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Elentos
55458 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:14 deacon.frost wrote: Well it comes from people who introduced Diablo Immoral for the Blizzcon crowd Don't you people have smartphones? | ||
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Elentos
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:11 Charoisaur wrote: imagine if a bug like this gets discovered... its working as intended | ||
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HolydaKing
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darklycid
3374 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:21 HolydaKing wrote: what a horrible game... :O What Happened? Can't watch | ||
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cugbiggcas
China15 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:56 capu wrote: I wonder what Time said to SOo over there? time may explain the dropped mule by mistake in game 3 i guess time said "sorry mistake, really sorry" lol | ||
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TheGoatPuncher
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On August 15 2019 19:21 HolydaKing wrote: what a horrible game... :O Come on now, PvP is an art, the Egon Schiele of match-ups! | ||
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
ShoWTimE lost, that automatically makes it horrible. A basetrade happened and ShoWTimE lost big chunks of army during his retreat, making him gg out kind of anti-climactically after a long build-up. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
Macro game until both were maxed out into base trade. Neeb manages to do good recall, Showtime in turn does a bad recall -> game over. | ||
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darklycid
3374 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:26 HolydaKing wrote: Macro game until both were maxed out into base trade. Neeb manages to do good recall, Showtime in turn does a bad recall -> game over. Sounds Like Peak PvP then. | ||
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DieuCure
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seemsgood
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On August 15 2019 19:28 DieuCure wrote: I see that TY is still the only non-patch terran. how dare you | ||
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yht9657
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On August 15 2019 19:28 DieuCure wrote: I see that TY is still the only non-patch terran. what about Cure tho? | ||
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
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NotSoHappy
445 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:28 DieuCure wrote: I see that TY is still the only non-patch terran. haha, I think the same | ||
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seemsgood
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TaKeTV
Germany1198 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
what about my man Major tho ? who is about to retire dat bolognese kid back to school | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
i'm sure i butchered that name, my bad | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:37 neutralrobot wrote: Is there a way to rewind the stream in twitch so I can go back and watch the games I missed? Or do I have to wait for VODs? Yeah you can rewind to the start here. | ||
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Elentos
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On August 15 2019 19:37 neutralrobot wrote: Is there a way to rewind the stream in twitch so I can go back and watch the games I missed? Or do I have to wait for VODs? You can't rewind the broadcast as it's going on but you can rewind this: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/467444087 | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:39 Elentos wrote: You can't rewind the broadcast as it's going on but you can rewind this: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/467444087 Thanks! Been spoiled on the results now, but I'm gonna watch anyway. Maru and Dark both out already? Dark to a foreigner and Maru 0-3? These are troubling times indeed. | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3090 Posts
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Goolpsy
Denmark301 Posts
I feel a little sad, that it was the European casters that got to cast the Europe-America match up. I like them switching around for us to experience different caster combiantions. but I would love to have Tasteless or Artosis input on this, since they normally cast the Koreans. I am certain the insight would be worth it | ||
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Azzur
Australia6255 Posts
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:44 Goolpsy wrote: I am loving the Event. I feel a little sad, that it was the European casters that got to cast the Europe-America match up. I like them switching around for us to experience different caster combiantions. but I would love to have Tasteless or Artosis input on this, since they normally cast the Koreans. I am certain the insight would be worth it TIL Australia is in Europe | ||
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
We all know Eurovision > Geography. Edit: Oooof ShoWTimE t.t | ||
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yht9657
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seemsgood
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HolydaKing
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On August 15 2019 19:34 TaKeTV wrote: M A U E R It went down in the end. GG Neeb. So far my prediction is pretty good. ^_^ | ||
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romson87
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Geo.Rion
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Fango
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HolydaKing
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tigon_ridge
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Argonauta
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Elentos
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yht9657
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 15 2019 20:12 Elentos wrote: Only thing in bigger shambles than Team Korea and the TL predictions are my Liquibets. I'm curious who got wrong today tbh. | ||
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
On August 15 2019 20:12 Elentos wrote: Only thing in bigger shambles than Team Korea and the TL predictions are my Liquibets. I went 2-2 in predictions at least. | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3995 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
Maru vs Serral ruined again, thanks Serral! | ||
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TheOneAboveU
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Fango
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sudete
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Argonauta
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Penev
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HolydaKing
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Argonauta
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Elentos
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On August 15 2019 20:18 Argonauta wrote: When is the showmatch being played? Sunday before the grand finals | ||
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tigon_ridge
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On August 15 2019 20:14 Argonauta wrote: uuuh Time is hot right now He's really, really strong right now. Wouldn't be surprised if he somehow wins the tournament. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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RatzBarcode
United States98 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:44 Goolpsy wrote: I am loving the Event. I feel a little sad, that it was the European casters that got to cast the Europe-America match up. I like them switching around for us to experience different caster combiantions. but I would love to have Tasteless or Artosis input on this, since they normally cast the Koreans. I am certain the insight would be worth it How well do you think Tasteless knows the foreign scene? | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3090 Posts
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yht9657
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On August 15 2019 20:19 NoS-Craig wrote: Wow, Serral picks Maru over Stats. The rivalry is real. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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Crocolisk Dundee
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Elentos
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Xain0n
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repomaniak
Poland324 Posts
GSL Elazer ceremony GSL Elazer took my heart already GSL Elazer interview + audience GSL Audience cheer GSL audience cheer GSL audience cheer from russia GSL Audience GSL cheer / maynarde memes GSL TIME interview GSL cheer tastosis GSL cheer just like like maru / stats GSL Artosis chemtrails GSL cheer GSL Stats interview GSL best cheer GSL cheer audience bakc 2back world war champs go usa GSL audience GSL Audience GSL cheer showtime vs neeb GSL Neeb interview GSL eu sux GSL Reynor pick GSL music | ||
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Elentos
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On August 15 2019 20:25 Xain0n wrote: Balanced teams, I would have actually loved to see Reynor against korean Zerg; if Maru plays like he can and has to, Serral team takes it! Well if we kept the format from last year where all games were forced GSL vs World, I dunno how important having Maru is gonna be. 75% chance he plays his weakest MU TvT as well. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 15 2019 20:33 Elentos wrote: Well if we kept the format from last year where all games were forced GSL vs World, I dunno how important having Maru is gonna be. 75% chance he plays his weakest MU TvT as well. It's his weakest but do you see him losing anyway? | ||
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Elentos
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On August 15 2019 20:36 Xain0n wrote: It's his weakest but do you see him losing anyway? Last year he lost the best of 1 in his best match-up, don't think him losing to the foreigners would be that shocking. Especially TIME and Special who practice on KR and should be familiar with his shenanigans. But even then Maru is just 1 map out of 8. Serral's team though just somehow feels like it has more depth even though they're very close in that aspect imo. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 20:41 Elentos wrote: Last year he lost the best of 1 in his best match-up, don't think him losing to the foreigners would be that shocking. Especially TIME and Special who practice on KR and should be familiar with his shenanigans. But even then Maru is just 1 map out of 8. Serral's team though just somehow feels like it has more depth even though they're very close in that aspect imo. He failed at 2 rax proxy and made it into an equal game, so it wasn't that bad. I expect similar thing this year, proxy or some quick timing to get it over fast. I just hope he prepares for Code S. | ||
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Gina
241 Posts
On to day 2, this tournament has delivered already! | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
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Meeii
155 Posts
- Dark vs Elazer: I think Dark could have won against any none Z but this matchup just isnt his thing. Still very close. - Soo vs Time: Time is super hot right now and Soo.. well he seems to get worse and worse. Not that big of a suprise. - Maru vs Stats: Holy hell what a shitshow. What are Maru doing in weekend tournaments? It feels like he just don't care or the format just doesn't work for him because this was bad. Yes, Stats is like super good but it were not even close. - Neeb vs Showtime: Didn't watch because.. well PvP and two players that have met each other a lot of times already. Mostly sad about Maru as he would for sure get to the final if he didn't lose against Stats. | ||
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Elentos
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On August 15 2019 20:54 deacon.frost wrote: He failed at 2 rax proxy and made it into an equal game, so it wasn't that bad. I expect similar thing this year, proxy or some quick timing to get it over fast. I just hope he prepares for Code S. He didn't proxy, he did a normal opening and got shut down so hard he was stupidly far behind for the rest of the game. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 15 2019 21:03 Elentos wrote: He didn't proxy, he did a normal opening and got shut down so hard he was stupidly far behind for the rest of the game. Now I wonder what game did I mistake this with. | ||
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Elentos
55458 Posts
On August 15 2019 21:07 deacon.frost wrote: Now I wonder what game did I mistake this with. Could be most Maru games last year, hard to tell | ||
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RotterdaM
Netherlands684 Posts
On August 15 2019 19:44 Goolpsy wrote: I am loving the Event. I feel a little sad, that it was the European casters that got to cast the Europe-America match up. I like them switching around for us to experience different caster combiantions. but I would love to have Tasteless or Artosis input on this, since they normally cast the Koreans. I am certain the insight would be worth it ??? How does it make sense for the guys who don’t watch these players very often to cast and provide insight over the guy who watches them all the time and on top of that also plays against them... I understand if you wanna say it would be fun to switch it up but for insights is probably the last argument you could ever use... | ||
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romson87
Poland487 Posts
On August 15 2019 21:20 RotterdaM wrote: ??? How does it make sense for the guys who don’t watch these players very often to cast and provide insight over the guy who watches them all the time and on top of that also plays against them... I understand if you wanna say it would be fun to switch it up but for insights is probably the last argument you could ever use... I get what you mean but on the other hand it would also be interesting to hear a different take on these players by casters who don't usually watch them. | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
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HeroSandro
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Argonauta
Spain4902 Posts
On August 15 2019 22:02 HeroSandro wrote: Stats continues to be amazing. Hopefully he will reach the finals rematch against Serral. Question is.. will Serral arrive to the finals? | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24293 Posts
I wanted Stats to advance but that was a stomp of a series. It makes sense there is a gap between GSL knockout Maru and other Maru given prep time, but that gap was pretty big today. If there is a series you can prep in a weekender it’s your first series when you know your opponent in advance. Happy for Elazer doing well, he should have got the chance in previous years and that’s a big scalp for him and the foreigners. Not really sure why the casters were quite so down on him, they give Scarlett a shot in basically any game she plays and their results are relatively comparable if you look at them. TIME showing his recent form is still continuing which is great, a shame soO is so out of form though. I think it’s great for the game overall if China have a real top, top player to root for so long may TIME continue to improve. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8988 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On August 15 2019 22:12 Nakajin wrote: Any series worth a rewatch? depends. Stas vs Maru and Time vs soO if you like beatdowns. Actually some good games, not that one sided. Check G2 from Time. I think Elazer vs Dark was very good, but it's ZvZ, g5 is the most relevant | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15878 Posts
On August 15 2019 22:12 Nakajin wrote: Any series worth a rewatch? Elazer vs Dark game 5, TIME vs soO game 2. | ||
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Terra1
Philippines312 Posts
Was expecting Showtime to win a 3-2, considering Neeb has lost to him a couple of times. 2-2 in the bets. Oh the upsets and close calls. Can't wait for tomorrow. | ||
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RotterdaM
Netherlands684 Posts
On August 15 2019 21:42 romson87 wrote: I get what you mean but on the other hand it would also be interesting to hear a different take on these players by casters who don't usually watch them. Definitely don’t disagree but the word insight feels kinda odd ;D like we could choose between nick dan doing fantasy classic and mayny and I doing Reynor special or the other way around but thought it make more sense to do the regular, gsl vs the world is not like a HSC where you just wanna have fun, fun is important but prolly wanna give some backstory too ;P | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Caussyou
5 Posts
On August 15 2019 17:58 The_Red_Viper wrote: Player with the better english won 2/2 times today, clearly stats and neeb to win the remaining series accurate prediction | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Now that we know the key to predict the winner, what does it mean for tomorrow :O | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On August 16 2019 00:14 The_Red_Viper wrote: Now that we know the key to predict the winner, what does it mean for tomorrow :O it means Korea needs to draft Solar asap | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
As far as i know TY tries to learn english, might have better one than serral, who knows | ||
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
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phodacbiet
United States1739 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 16 2019 01:37 phodacbiet wrote: Since this is a weekender, Maru is probably still et lagged. Either that or whenever there's a chance for Serral and Maru to meet in the finals, Maru subvert our expectations by not showing up. Don't forget to blame him for being picked into the Serral team. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
And clearly Maru isn't the best Terran in the world right now. Tomorrow we'll see if there is anyone at all worthy of that title. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 16 2019 03:25 sneakyfox wrote: Oh Stats, you're so handsome. What a god. And clearly Maru isn't the best Terran in the world right now. Tomorrow we'll see if there is anyone at all worthy of that title. That's questionable considering he didn't deliver in the past 2 years outside of Code S and WESG. We'll see how he's doing at his Death group. The issue there's no one else who could be named instead of him because no other Terran had any reasonable success. Maybe if TY wins with a big difference, but now we don't have a good Korean Terran(similarly there's no good Zerg ) | ||
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Elentos
55458 Posts
On August 16 2019 03:25 sneakyfox wrote: Oh Stats, you're so handsome. What a god. And clearly Maru isn't the best Terran in the world right now. Tomorrow we'll see if there is anyone at all worthy of that title. TIME already played | ||
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tigon_ridge
482 Posts
On August 16 2019 03:33 deacon.frost wrote: That's questionable considering he didn't deliver in the past 2 years outside of Code S and WESG. We'll see how he's doing at his Death group. The issue there's no one else who could be named instead of him because no other Terran had any reasonable success. Maybe if TY wins with a big difference, but now we don't have a good Korean Terran(similarly there's no good Zerg )Wow your bar for "good" must be extremely high, eh kid? | ||
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Johny1
Poland39 Posts
If Time can come back from this vs soo? He is legit contender! | ||
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Elentos
55458 Posts
On August 16 2019 03:52 Johny1 wrote: In game 2 soo vs time zerg was 140 vs 76 supply at one minute. If Time can come back from this vs soo? He is legit contender! soO has fucked up bigger leads let's be honest. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On August 16 2019 03:33 deacon.frost wrote: That's questionable considering he didn't deliver in the past 2 years outside of Code S and WESG. We'll see how he's doing at his Death group. The issue there's no one else who could be named instead of him because no other Terran had any reasonable success. Maybe if TY wins with a big difference, but now we don't have a good Korean Terran(similarly there's no good Zerg )If TY has a strong showing in this tournament there is no reason at all why he shouldn't be considered the best Terran right now. He's already been good at HSC and in Code S. And yes of course that can change if another player does very well later on, that's just how it is. | ||
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JJH777
United States4378 Posts
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
On August 15 2019 18:40 NoS-Craig wrote: Not sure if Serral vs Maru is a dream matchup of mine after seeing that. Yeah. So far the dream match looks like Stats Time. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On August 16 2019 05:18 JJH777 wrote: I think TY would have to win this event to call him the best Terran right now. Maru still won a GSL this year and the way he beat Reynor at WCG was brutal. Plus TY himself would absolutely say Maru is the best Terran right now. TY also says that Special is better than him | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
Heromarine is going to beat Trap too | ||
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EvanC
Canada130 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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NoS-Craig
Australia3090 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On August 16 2019 10:06 Shellshock wrote: only 28 people picked Elazer in liquibet Only a special breed of people will take that 1/1000 bet. | ||
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RePlantXG
China2 Posts
On August 16 2019 05:46 General_Winter wrote: Yeah. So far the dream match looks like Stats Time. Well tvp maybe the worst for TIME. Before the ROG,he said he usually practice with Dear, and always win 1 or 2 in 10 matches. So far he is only good at scvs all in. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 16 2019 03:39 tigon_ridge wrote: Wow your bar for "good" must be extremely high, eh kid? Oh yeah, I want them to be championship contenders which doesn't apply to neither of Innovation, Gumiho, TY or Maru. Or Cure/Fantasy At least in the current state as it doesn't seem as neither of them can take the championship crown. Maru just got spanked by Stats, TY doesn't look so strong currently. Innovation and Gumiho clearly were nearly taking the ROG... oh, they were not C'mon, from the recent results it doesn't seem that there's any contender for the top player from Z or T. | ||
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droppanda
Australia176 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4164 Posts
Beautiful to see him shutting many silly mouths that were bad mannering him and saying he doesn't belong in the tournament. You all got beautifully served GG!Hope for at least 2 non-kors in the semifinals. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
"the best players are the ones who win, but the best player lost, therefore this wasn't a good series because the better player is actually bad. in conclusion, innovation serral maru innovation serral serral maru innovation" | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24293 Posts
On August 16 2019 15:42 deacon.frost wrote: Oh yeah, I want them to be championship contenders which doesn't apply to neither of Innovation, Gumiho, TY or Maru. Or Cure/Fantasy At least in the current state as it doesn't seem as neither of them can take the championship crown. Maru just got spanked by Stats, TY doesn't look so strong currently. Innovation and Gumiho clearly were nearly taking the ROG... oh, they were not C'mon, from the recent results it doesn't seem that there's any contender for the top player from Z or T. TY does look pretty damn good lately though, relatively serenely sailed through his GSL group, straight up outplayed Maru to advance first and had a really strong HSC showing where he 3-0ed Stats. He’s lost to Serral twice which happens to quite a lot of people. Sure it’s only the last month-ish of results, which is a limited set but given Inno’s form, Maru bombing here and what TY’s done recently he’s probably the top Terran currently on form. I’m intrigued to see what the next GSL round brings and if Special Cure or Fantasy can make deep runs, they’re definitely all on the upward curve form wise but whether it’s enough to make a big jump in GSL remains to be seen. | ||
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