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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28483 Posts
August 03 2019 19:07 GMT
#841
On August 04 2019 04:06 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 04:05 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:00 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:48 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:40 Fango wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:06 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:01 Fango wrote:
On August 04 2019 02:57 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On August 04 2019 02:52 Xain0n wrote:
Serral in 2019 really isn't as clutch as he used to be; Stats played very well and deserved, those stupid teasing comments are so needless; is Stats a superior player overall? I highly doubt it.

I don't mind Stats winning the tournament for Aiur, I would be disappointed if he ended up losing to Solar after what he showed against Serral.


Comeon is it that hard for you to admit Stats looked superior in this series? Its not like he landslided him, it was a close series but Stats just looked better, I think everyone saw that.
And who is overall better that is quite pointless to discuss they are both so insanely good , right at the top of the food-chain

Yeah I don't see how anyone can watch that series and try to say Stats wasn't the superior player. Even the games Serral won weren't that impressive, one was a dumb ling rush that won because Stats hadn't walled off yet, and the other had zerg reach 30 infestors almost uncontested, which is a scenario they have no business losing.


You wouldn't be waving this "superior player" nonsense if Stats beat a top korean Zerg 3-2 in a close series, I don't remember Classic being called superior when he barely edged out Dark 4-3 in Code S season 2 earlier this year.

You guys eagerly wait for Serral to lose to restore your idea of korean supremacy, forgetting no top player ever was winning every tournament(actually, nobody before Serral last year did since May); you will never deal with the fact Serral won BlizzCon and are overzealous in bashing Serral every time he loses, no other top player is welcomed with such negative feedback on this forum.

This time it was actually mild, but take a look at what happened after WESG.

If Stats had beaten Dark in the exact same fashion, you bet I'd have called him out as being the better player there. I remember when he beat Dark 4-3 in the super cup last year I was trashing Dark for how he bad played. And it's not like I'm bashing Serral here either, all I said was Stats played much better. Although now I think about it Serral wasn't that impressive at all, the two games he won are games no zerg should really lose.

I don't recall bashing Serral after WeSG either (this year at least, he deserved it last year).

And lastly, the reason you think Serral is met with seemingly negative feedback here is because he gets more positive feedback than he deserves a lot of the time, especially from you who seems to overrate Serral in every thread you appear. If you post rather far out opinions on any matter, you can expect people to meet it with the contrary.


This literally can't be right since I registered an account to this forum well after people started badmouthing him; maybe you didn't, but many insulted Serral after WESG this year. You guys don't perceive Serral as just a top player, you perceive him as a non korean top player.

I consider superiority something else than playing slightly better throughout a series, for me to say someone looked superior there must have been a stomp, and even then Sc2 is a game volatile enough to render this kind of comments someway pointless. I am not overrating Serral, I could say you underrate him because he plays in WCS; also, have you got any idea about how much you venerate Maru? I saw nobody saying Patience and Inno looked like the better player the day he was eliminated from Code S, and I surely weren't there saying that.


Just in this thread multiple people value Serral as one of the best players in the world. I literally said he and Stats are neck/neck overall.

Your problem is, {even though you try to hide it sometimes) you perceive him as the undisputed best without any valid reason except annoying fanboyism and can't admit another player was just straight up better in the series if Serral loses (and it doesn't even happen often).

Inno looked superior to Maru in that GSL. Honestly he always does when they play against each other. Patience is another story. He was well prepared and a bit lucky, I don't think that's remotely comparable...


No player is as complete as Serral, as consistent, and as competitive in any matchup,

Serral confirmed best TvP

you should see his TvT, TY has nothing on him
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-03 19:10:35
August 03 2019 19:08 GMT
#842
Top tier play by graviton beaming the egg producing a drone. It delays the drone by at least a third of a second.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
August 03 2019 19:08 GMT
#843
On August 04 2019 04:07 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 04:06 DBooN wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:05 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:00 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:48 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:40 Fango wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:06 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:01 Fango wrote:
On August 04 2019 02:57 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On August 04 2019 02:52 Xain0n wrote:
Serral in 2019 really isn't as clutch as he used to be; Stats played very well and deserved, those stupid teasing comments are so needless; is Stats a superior player overall? I highly doubt it.

I don't mind Stats winning the tournament for Aiur, I would be disappointed if he ended up losing to Solar after what he showed against Serral.


Comeon is it that hard for you to admit Stats looked superior in this series? Its not like he landslided him, it was a close series but Stats just looked better, I think everyone saw that.
And who is overall better that is quite pointless to discuss they are both so insanely good , right at the top of the food-chain

Yeah I don't see how anyone can watch that series and try to say Stats wasn't the superior player. Even the games Serral won weren't that impressive, one was a dumb ling rush that won because Stats hadn't walled off yet, and the other had zerg reach 30 infestors almost uncontested, which is a scenario they have no business losing.


You wouldn't be waving this "superior player" nonsense if Stats beat a top korean Zerg 3-2 in a close series, I don't remember Classic being called superior when he barely edged out Dark 4-3 in Code S season 2 earlier this year.

You guys eagerly wait for Serral to lose to restore your idea of korean supremacy, forgetting no top player ever was winning every tournament(actually, nobody before Serral last year did since May); you will never deal with the fact Serral won BlizzCon and are overzealous in bashing Serral every time he loses, no other top player is welcomed with such negative feedback on this forum.

This time it was actually mild, but take a look at what happened after WESG.

If Stats had beaten Dark in the exact same fashion, you bet I'd have called him out as being the better player there. I remember when he beat Dark 4-3 in the super cup last year I was trashing Dark for how he bad played. And it's not like I'm bashing Serral here either, all I said was Stats played much better. Although now I think about it Serral wasn't that impressive at all, the two games he won are games no zerg should really lose.

I don't recall bashing Serral after WeSG either (this year at least, he deserved it last year).

And lastly, the reason you think Serral is met with seemingly negative feedback here is because he gets more positive feedback than he deserves a lot of the time, especially from you who seems to overrate Serral in every thread you appear. If you post rather far out opinions on any matter, you can expect people to meet it with the contrary.


This literally can't be right since I registered an account to this forum well after people started badmouthing him; maybe you didn't, but many insulted Serral after WESG this year. You guys don't perceive Serral as just a top player, you perceive him as a non korean top player.

I consider superiority something else than playing slightly better throughout a series, for me to say someone looked superior there must have been a stomp, and even then Sc2 is a game volatile enough to render this kind of comments someway pointless. I am not overrating Serral, I could say you underrate him because he plays in WCS; also, have you got any idea about how much you venerate Maru? I saw nobody saying Patience and Inno looked like the better player the day he was eliminated from Code S, and I surely weren't there saying that.


Just in this thread multiple people value Serral as one of the best players in the world. I literally said he and Stats are neck/neck overall.

Your problem is, {even though you try to hide it sometimes) you perceive him as the undisputed best without any valid reason except annoying fanboyism and can't admit another player was just straight up better in the series if Serral loses (and it doesn't even happen often).

Inno looked superior to Maru in that GSL. Honestly he always does when they play against each other. Patience is another story. He was well prepared and a bit lucky, I don't think that's remotely comparable...


No player is as complete as Serral, as consistent, and as competitive in any matchup,

Serral confirmed best TvP

you should see his TvT, TY has nothing on him

Well at least we have firm evidence he's got the best TvZ in Finland.
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
531 Posts
August 03 2019 19:09 GMT
#844
On August 04 2019 04:00 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 03:48 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:40 Fango wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:06 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:01 Fango wrote:
On August 04 2019 02:57 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On August 04 2019 02:52 Xain0n wrote:
Serral in 2019 really isn't as clutch as he used to be; Stats played very well and deserved, those stupid teasing comments are so needless; is Stats a superior player overall? I highly doubt it.

I don't mind Stats winning the tournament for Aiur, I would be disappointed if he ended up losing to Solar after what he showed against Serral.


Comeon is it that hard for you to admit Stats looked superior in this series? Its not like he landslided him, it was a close series but Stats just looked better, I think everyone saw that.
And who is overall better that is quite pointless to discuss they are both so insanely good , right at the top of the food-chain

Yeah I don't see how anyone can watch that series and try to say Stats wasn't the superior player. Even the games Serral won weren't that impressive, one was a dumb ling rush that won because Stats hadn't walled off yet, and the other had zerg reach 30 infestors almost uncontested, which is a scenario they have no business losing.


You wouldn't be waving this "superior player" nonsense if Stats beat a top korean Zerg 3-2 in a close series, I don't remember Classic being called superior when he barely edged out Dark 4-3 in Code S season 2 earlier this year.

You guys eagerly wait for Serral to lose to restore your idea of korean supremacy, forgetting no top player ever was winning every tournament(actually, nobody before Serral last year did since May); you will never deal with the fact Serral won BlizzCon and are overzealous in bashing Serral every time he loses, no other top player is welcomed with such negative feedback on this forum.

This time it was actually mild, but take a look at what happened after WESG.

If Stats had beaten Dark in the exact same fashion, you bet I'd have called him out as being the better player there. I remember when he beat Dark 4-3 in the super cup last year I was trashing Dark for how he bad played. And it's not like I'm bashing Serral here either, all I said was Stats played much better. Although now I think about it Serral wasn't that impressive at all, the two games he won are games no zerg should really lose.

I don't recall bashing Serral after WeSG either (this year at least, he deserved it last year).

And lastly, the reason you think Serral is met with seemingly negative feedback here is because he gets more positive feedback than he deserves a lot of the time, especially from you who seems to overrate Serral in every thread you appear. If you post rather far out opinions on any matter, you can expect people to meet it with the contrary.


This literally can't be right since I registered an account to this forum well after people started badmouthing him; maybe you didn't, but many insulted Serral after WESG this year. You guys don't perceive Serral as just a top player, you perceive him as a non korean top player.

I consider superiority something else than playing slightly better throughout a series, for me to say someone looked superior there must have been a stomp, and even then Sc2 is a game volatile enough to render this kind of comments someway pointless. I am not overrating Serral, I could say you underrate him because he plays in WCS; also, have you got any idea about how much you venerate Maru? I saw nobody saying Patience and Inno looked like the better player the day he was eliminated from Code S, and I surely weren't there saying that.


Just in this thread multiple people value Serral as one of the best players in the world. I literally said he and Stats are neck/neck overall.

Your problem is, {even though you try to hide it sometimes) you perceive him as the undisputed best without any valid reason except annoying fanboyism and can't admit another player was just straight up better in the series if Serral loses (and it doesn't even happen often).

Inno looked superior to Maru in that GSL. Honestly he always does when they play against each other. Patience is another story. He was well prepared and a bit lucky, I don't think that's remotely comparable...


None of us is objective and Xain0n hypes Serral maybe a dat too much, but it goes both ways. Please do not represent yourself as the paragon of objectivity. Some of us might hype Serral too much, but downplaying everything he does is no better.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28483 Posts
August 03 2019 19:10 GMT
#845
beautiful stasis tasteless
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 03 2019 19:10 GMT
#846
On August 04 2019 04:07 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 04:06 DBooN wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:05 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:00 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:48 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:40 Fango wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:06 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:01 Fango wrote:
On August 04 2019 02:57 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On August 04 2019 02:52 Xain0n wrote:
Serral in 2019 really isn't as clutch as he used to be; Stats played very well and deserved, those stupid teasing comments are so needless; is Stats a superior player overall? I highly doubt it.

I don't mind Stats winning the tournament for Aiur, I would be disappointed if he ended up losing to Solar after what he showed against Serral.


Comeon is it that hard for you to admit Stats looked superior in this series? Its not like he landslided him, it was a close series but Stats just looked better, I think everyone saw that.
And who is overall better that is quite pointless to discuss they are both so insanely good , right at the top of the food-chain

Yeah I don't see how anyone can watch that series and try to say Stats wasn't the superior player. Even the games Serral won weren't that impressive, one was a dumb ling rush that won because Stats hadn't walled off yet, and the other had zerg reach 30 infestors almost uncontested, which is a scenario they have no business losing.


You wouldn't be waving this "superior player" nonsense if Stats beat a top korean Zerg 3-2 in a close series, I don't remember Classic being called superior when he barely edged out Dark 4-3 in Code S season 2 earlier this year.

You guys eagerly wait for Serral to lose to restore your idea of korean supremacy, forgetting no top player ever was winning every tournament(actually, nobody before Serral last year did since May); you will never deal with the fact Serral won BlizzCon and are overzealous in bashing Serral every time he loses, no other top player is welcomed with such negative feedback on this forum.

This time it was actually mild, but take a look at what happened after WESG.

If Stats had beaten Dark in the exact same fashion, you bet I'd have called him out as being the better player there. I remember when he beat Dark 4-3 in the super cup last year I was trashing Dark for how he bad played. And it's not like I'm bashing Serral here either, all I said was Stats played much better. Although now I think about it Serral wasn't that impressive at all, the two games he won are games no zerg should really lose.

I don't recall bashing Serral after WeSG either (this year at least, he deserved it last year).

And lastly, the reason you think Serral is met with seemingly negative feedback here is because he gets more positive feedback than he deserves a lot of the time, especially from you who seems to overrate Serral in every thread you appear. If you post rather far out opinions on any matter, you can expect people to meet it with the contrary.


This literally can't be right since I registered an account to this forum well after people started badmouthing him; maybe you didn't, but many insulted Serral after WESG this year. You guys don't perceive Serral as just a top player, you perceive him as a non korean top player.

I consider superiority something else than playing slightly better throughout a series, for me to say someone looked superior there must have been a stomp, and even then Sc2 is a game volatile enough to render this kind of comments someway pointless. I am not overrating Serral, I could say you underrate him because he plays in WCS; also, have you got any idea about how much you venerate Maru? I saw nobody saying Patience and Inno looked like the better player the day he was eliminated from Code S, and I surely weren't there saying that.


Just in this thread multiple people value Serral as one of the best players in the world. I literally said he and Stats are neck/neck overall.

Your problem is, {even though you try to hide it sometimes) you perceive him as the undisputed best without any valid reason except annoying fanboyism and can't admit another player was just straight up better in the series if Serral loses (and it doesn't even happen often).

Inno looked superior to Maru in that GSL. Honestly he always does when they play against each other. Patience is another story. He was well prepared and a bit lucky, I don't think that's remotely comparable...


No player is as complete as Serral, as consistent, and as competitive in any matchup,

Serral confirmed best TvP

you should see his TvT, TY has nothing on him


Has TY ever beaten Fagballs in a TvT? I don't think so.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3512 Posts
August 03 2019 19:12 GMT
#847
Solar waking up?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28483 Posts
August 03 2019 19:12 GMT
#848
I don't know who's superior anymore
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
August 03 2019 19:13 GMT
#849
On August 04 2019 04:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 04:07 Penev wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:06 DBooN wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:05 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:00 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:48 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:40 Fango wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:06 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:01 Fango wrote:
On August 04 2019 02:57 MarianoSC2 wrote:
[quote]

Comeon is it that hard for you to admit Stats looked superior in this series? Its not like he landslided him, it was a close series but Stats just looked better, I think everyone saw that.
And who is overall better that is quite pointless to discuss they are both so insanely good , right at the top of the food-chain

Yeah I don't see how anyone can watch that series and try to say Stats wasn't the superior player. Even the games Serral won weren't that impressive, one was a dumb ling rush that won because Stats hadn't walled off yet, and the other had zerg reach 30 infestors almost uncontested, which is a scenario they have no business losing.


You wouldn't be waving this "superior player" nonsense if Stats beat a top korean Zerg 3-2 in a close series, I don't remember Classic being called superior when he barely edged out Dark 4-3 in Code S season 2 earlier this year.

You guys eagerly wait for Serral to lose to restore your idea of korean supremacy, forgetting no top player ever was winning every tournament(actually, nobody before Serral last year did since May); you will never deal with the fact Serral won BlizzCon and are overzealous in bashing Serral every time he loses, no other top player is welcomed with such negative feedback on this forum.

This time it was actually mild, but take a look at what happened after WESG.

If Stats had beaten Dark in the exact same fashion, you bet I'd have called him out as being the better player there. I remember when he beat Dark 4-3 in the super cup last year I was trashing Dark for how he bad played. And it's not like I'm bashing Serral here either, all I said was Stats played much better. Although now I think about it Serral wasn't that impressive at all, the two games he won are games no zerg should really lose.

I don't recall bashing Serral after WeSG either (this year at least, he deserved it last year).

And lastly, the reason you think Serral is met with seemingly negative feedback here is because he gets more positive feedback than he deserves a lot of the time, especially from you who seems to overrate Serral in every thread you appear. If you post rather far out opinions on any matter, you can expect people to meet it with the contrary.


This literally can't be right since I registered an account to this forum well after people started badmouthing him; maybe you didn't, but many insulted Serral after WESG this year. You guys don't perceive Serral as just a top player, you perceive him as a non korean top player.

I consider superiority something else than playing slightly better throughout a series, for me to say someone looked superior there must have been a stomp, and even then Sc2 is a game volatile enough to render this kind of comments someway pointless. I am not overrating Serral, I could say you underrate him because he plays in WCS; also, have you got any idea about how much you venerate Maru? I saw nobody saying Patience and Inno looked like the better player the day he was eliminated from Code S, and I surely weren't there saying that.


Just in this thread multiple people value Serral as one of the best players in the world. I literally said he and Stats are neck/neck overall.

Your problem is, {even though you try to hide it sometimes) you perceive him as the undisputed best without any valid reason except annoying fanboyism and can't admit another player was just straight up better in the series if Serral loses (and it doesn't even happen often).

Inno looked superior to Maru in that GSL. Honestly he always does when they play against each other. Patience is another story. He was well prepared and a bit lucky, I don't think that's remotely comparable...


No player is as complete as Serral, as consistent, and as competitive in any matchup,

Serral confirmed best TvP

you should see his TvT, TY has nothing on him


Has TY ever beaten Fagballs in a TvT? I don't think so.

please tell me that's not actually a player's name
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
August 03 2019 19:13 GMT
#850
On August 04 2019 04:06 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 04:05 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:00 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:48 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:40 Fango wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:06 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:01 Fango wrote:
On August 04 2019 02:57 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On August 04 2019 02:52 Xain0n wrote:
Serral in 2019 really isn't as clutch as he used to be; Stats played very well and deserved, those stupid teasing comments are so needless; is Stats a superior player overall? I highly doubt it.

I don't mind Stats winning the tournament for Aiur, I would be disappointed if he ended up losing to Solar after what he showed against Serral.


Comeon is it that hard for you to admit Stats looked superior in this series? Its not like he landslided him, it was a close series but Stats just looked better, I think everyone saw that.
And who is overall better that is quite pointless to discuss they are both so insanely good , right at the top of the food-chain

Yeah I don't see how anyone can watch that series and try to say Stats wasn't the superior player. Even the games Serral won weren't that impressive, one was a dumb ling rush that won because Stats hadn't walled off yet, and the other had zerg reach 30 infestors almost uncontested, which is a scenario they have no business losing.


You wouldn't be waving this "superior player" nonsense if Stats beat a top korean Zerg 3-2 in a close series, I don't remember Classic being called superior when he barely edged out Dark 4-3 in Code S season 2 earlier this year.

You guys eagerly wait for Serral to lose to restore your idea of korean supremacy, forgetting no top player ever was winning every tournament(actually, nobody before Serral last year did since May); you will never deal with the fact Serral won BlizzCon and are overzealous in bashing Serral every time he loses, no other top player is welcomed with such negative feedback on this forum.

This time it was actually mild, but take a look at what happened after WESG.

If Stats had beaten Dark in the exact same fashion, you bet I'd have called him out as being the better player there. I remember when he beat Dark 4-3 in the super cup last year I was trashing Dark for how he bad played. And it's not like I'm bashing Serral here either, all I said was Stats played much better. Although now I think about it Serral wasn't that impressive at all, the two games he won are games no zerg should really lose.

I don't recall bashing Serral after WeSG either (this year at least, he deserved it last year).

And lastly, the reason you think Serral is met with seemingly negative feedback here is because he gets more positive feedback than he deserves a lot of the time, especially from you who seems to overrate Serral in every thread you appear. If you post rather far out opinions on any matter, you can expect people to meet it with the contrary.


This literally can't be right since I registered an account to this forum well after people started badmouthing him; maybe you didn't, but many insulted Serral after WESG this year. You guys don't perceive Serral as just a top player, you perceive him as a non korean top player.

I consider superiority something else than playing slightly better throughout a series, for me to say someone looked superior there must have been a stomp, and even then Sc2 is a game volatile enough to render this kind of comments someway pointless. I am not overrating Serral, I could say you underrate him because he plays in WCS; also, have you got any idea about how much you venerate Maru? I saw nobody saying Patience and Inno looked like the better player the day he was eliminated from Code S, and I surely weren't there saying that.


Just in this thread multiple people value Serral as one of the best players in the world. I literally said he and Stats are neck/neck overall.

Your problem is, {even though you try to hide it sometimes) you perceive him as the undisputed best without any valid reason except annoying fanboyism and can't admit another player was just straight up better in the series if Serral loses (and it doesn't even happen often).

Inno looked superior to Maru in that GSL. Honestly he always does when they play against each other. Patience is another story. He was well prepared and a bit lucky, I don't think that's remotely comparable...


No player is as complete as Serral, as consistent, and as competitive in any matchup,

Serral confirmed best TvP


Lol I meant that nobody is as strongs as Serral considering all of the three matchups the race they play(someone can be stronger in one, but I see nobody being more complete than him).
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 03 2019 19:14 GMT
#851
On August 04 2019 04:05 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 04:03 Fango wrote:
Does Stats ever pull off cheese?


At one point he liked proxying two robos against terran. I think I saw him do that build a few times and saw it work at least once?

Didn't he lose the GSL final against Maru doing that?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
August 03 2019 19:14 GMT
#852
the remontada is on.
Polt | Bomber | MMA | Taeja | Maru | TY | Byun | Innovation
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 03 2019 19:14 GMT
#853
gj Solar
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28483 Posts
August 03 2019 19:15 GMT
#854
I saw a very bored girl in the audience lol
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 03 2019 19:15 GMT
#855
On August 04 2019 04:14 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 04:05 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:03 Fango wrote:
Does Stats ever pull off cheese?


At one point he liked proxying two robos against terran. I think I saw him do that build a few times and saw it work at least once?

Didn't he lose the GSL final against Maru doing that?


Yup. He completely botched things on Darkness Sanctuary iirc.

On August 04 2019 04:13 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 04:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:07 Penev wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:06 DBooN wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:05 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:00 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:48 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:40 Fango wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:06 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:01 Fango wrote:
[quote]
Yeah I don't see how anyone can watch that series and try to say Stats wasn't the superior player. Even the games Serral won weren't that impressive, one was a dumb ling rush that won because Stats hadn't walled off yet, and the other had zerg reach 30 infestors almost uncontested, which is a scenario they have no business losing.


You wouldn't be waving this "superior player" nonsense if Stats beat a top korean Zerg 3-2 in a close series, I don't remember Classic being called superior when he barely edged out Dark 4-3 in Code S season 2 earlier this year.

You guys eagerly wait for Serral to lose to restore your idea of korean supremacy, forgetting no top player ever was winning every tournament(actually, nobody before Serral last year did since May); you will never deal with the fact Serral won BlizzCon and are overzealous in bashing Serral every time he loses, no other top player is welcomed with such negative feedback on this forum.

This time it was actually mild, but take a look at what happened after WESG.

If Stats had beaten Dark in the exact same fashion, you bet I'd have called him out as being the better player there. I remember when he beat Dark 4-3 in the super cup last year I was trashing Dark for how he bad played. And it's not like I'm bashing Serral here either, all I said was Stats played much better. Although now I think about it Serral wasn't that impressive at all, the two games he won are games no zerg should really lose.

I don't recall bashing Serral after WeSG either (this year at least, he deserved it last year).

And lastly, the reason you think Serral is met with seemingly negative feedback here is because he gets more positive feedback than he deserves a lot of the time, especially from you who seems to overrate Serral in every thread you appear. If you post rather far out opinions on any matter, you can expect people to meet it with the contrary.


This literally can't be right since I registered an account to this forum well after people started badmouthing him; maybe you didn't, but many insulted Serral after WESG this year. You guys don't perceive Serral as just a top player, you perceive him as a non korean top player.

I consider superiority something else than playing slightly better throughout a series, for me to say someone looked superior there must have been a stomp, and even then Sc2 is a game volatile enough to render this kind of comments someway pointless. I am not overrating Serral, I could say you underrate him because he plays in WCS; also, have you got any idea about how much you venerate Maru? I saw nobody saying Patience and Inno looked like the better player the day he was eliminated from Code S, and I surely weren't there saying that.


Just in this thread multiple people value Serral as one of the best players in the world. I literally said he and Stats are neck/neck overall.

Your problem is, {even though you try to hide it sometimes) you perceive him as the undisputed best without any valid reason except annoying fanboyism and can't admit another player was just straight up better in the series if Serral loses (and it doesn't even happen often).

Inno looked superior to Maru in that GSL. Honestly he always does when they play against each other. Patience is another story. He was well prepared and a bit lucky, I don't think that's remotely comparable...


No player is as complete as Serral, as consistent, and as competitive in any matchup,

Serral confirmed best TvP

you should see his TvT, TY has nothing on him


Has TY ever beaten Fagballs in a TvT? I don't think so.

please tell me that's not actually a player's name


http://aligulac.com/players/10592-Fagballs/
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
August 03 2019 19:15 GMT
#856
The funny thing is if Stats didn't cannon rush on King's Cove, I can't imagine him losing on that map if he played as well as he has been this whole day.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
August 03 2019 19:15 GMT
#857
If Stats loses another grand finals it's just too much
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
August 03 2019 19:16 GMT
#858
On August 04 2019 04:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 04:14 Fango wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:05 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:03 Fango wrote:
Does Stats ever pull off cheese?


At one point he liked proxying two robos against terran. I think I saw him do that build a few times and saw it work at least once?

Didn't he lose the GSL final against Maru doing that?


Yup. He completely botched things on Darkness Sanctuary iirc.

Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 04:13 Schelim wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:07 Penev wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:06 DBooN wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:05 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 04:00 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:48 Xain0n wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:40 Fango wrote:
On August 04 2019 03:06 Xain0n wrote:
[quote]

You wouldn't be waving this "superior player" nonsense if Stats beat a top korean Zerg 3-2 in a close series, I don't remember Classic being called superior when he barely edged out Dark 4-3 in Code S season 2 earlier this year.

You guys eagerly wait for Serral to lose to restore your idea of korean supremacy, forgetting no top player ever was winning every tournament(actually, nobody before Serral last year did since May); you will never deal with the fact Serral won BlizzCon and are overzealous in bashing Serral every time he loses, no other top player is welcomed with such negative feedback on this forum.

This time it was actually mild, but take a look at what happened after WESG.

If Stats had beaten Dark in the exact same fashion, you bet I'd have called him out as being the better player there. I remember when he beat Dark 4-3 in the super cup last year I was trashing Dark for how he bad played. And it's not like I'm bashing Serral here either, all I said was Stats played much better. Although now I think about it Serral wasn't that impressive at all, the two games he won are games no zerg should really lose.

I don't recall bashing Serral after WeSG either (this year at least, he deserved it last year).

And lastly, the reason you think Serral is met with seemingly negative feedback here is because he gets more positive feedback than he deserves a lot of the time, especially from you who seems to overrate Serral in every thread you appear. If you post rather far out opinions on any matter, you can expect people to meet it with the contrary.


This literally can't be right since I registered an account to this forum well after people started badmouthing him; maybe you didn't, but many insulted Serral after WESG this year. You guys don't perceive Serral as just a top player, you perceive him as a non korean top player.

I consider superiority something else than playing slightly better throughout a series, for me to say someone looked superior there must have been a stomp, and even then Sc2 is a game volatile enough to render this kind of comments someway pointless. I am not overrating Serral, I could say you underrate him because he plays in WCS; also, have you got any idea about how much you venerate Maru? I saw nobody saying Patience and Inno looked like the better player the day he was eliminated from Code S, and I surely weren't there saying that.


Just in this thread multiple people value Serral as one of the best players in the world. I literally said he and Stats are neck/neck overall.

Your problem is, {even though you try to hide it sometimes) you perceive him as the undisputed best without any valid reason except annoying fanboyism and can't admit another player was just straight up better in the series if Serral loses (and it doesn't even happen often).

Inno looked superior to Maru in that GSL. Honestly he always does when they play against each other. Patience is another story. He was well prepared and a bit lucky, I don't think that's remotely comparable...


No player is as complete as Serral, as consistent, and as competitive in any matchup,

Serral confirmed best TvP

you should see his TvT, TY has nothing on him


Has TY ever beaten Fagballs in a TvT? I don't think so.

please tell me that's not actually a player's name


http://aligulac.com/players/10592-Fagballs/

well i hope that has some completely unrelated meaning in Finnish or it's really offensive and stupid...
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
sagi
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland346 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-03 19:18:20
August 03 2019 19:17 GMT
#859
On August 04 2019 04:15 Penev wrote:
I saw a very bored girl in the audience lol


There's been couple on my line where their bf tried to explain the basics. First one left. Second one on the phone non stop :p
hi patrik!
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
August 03 2019 19:18 GMT
#860
Haha will Stats throw this? I didnt see this game just the start when Stats mismicroed his Oracle and lost 1 more than usual. Was that the sole turning point in the game (doubt it, but asking anyway) or did Solar manage to catch him off guard somewhere?
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