On August 04 2019 02:52 Xain0n wrote: Serral in 2019 really isn't as clutch as he used to be; Stats played very well and deserved, those stupid teasing comments are so needless; is Stats a superior player overall? I highly doubt it.
I don't mind Stats winning the tournament for Aiur, I would be disappointed if he ended up losing to Solar after what he showed against Serral.
Comeon is it that hard for you to admit Stats looked superior in this series? Its not like he landslided him, it was a close series but Stats just looked better, I think everyone saw that. And who is overall better that is quite pointless to discuss they are both so insanely good , right at the top of the food-chain
Yeah I don't see how anyone can watch that series and try to say Stats wasn't the superior player. Even the games Serral won weren't that impressive, one was a dumb ling rush that won because Stats hadn't walled off yet, and the other had zerg reach 30 infestors almost uncontested, which is a scenario they have no business losing.
You wouldn't be waving this "superior player" nonsense if Stats beat a top korean Zerg 3-2 in a close series, I don't remember Classic being called superior when he barely edged out Dark 4-3 in Code S season 2 earlier this year.
You guys eagerly wait for Serral to lose to restore your idea of korean supremacy, forgetting no top player ever was winning every tournament(actually, nobody before Serral last year did since May); you will never deal with the fact Serral won BlizzCon and are overzealous in bashing Serral every time he loses, no other top player is welcomed with such negative feedback on this forum.
This time it was actually mild, but take a look at what happened after WESG.
If Stats had beaten Dark in the exact same fashion, you bet I'd have called him out as being the better player there. I remember when he beat Dark 4-3 in the super cup last year I was trashing Dark for how he bad played. And it's not like I'm bashing Serral here either, all I said was Stats played much better. Although now I think about it Serral wasn't that impressive at all, the two games he won are games no zerg should really lose.
I don't recall bashing Serral after WeSG either (this year at least, he deserved it last year).
And lastly, the reason you think Serral is met with seemingly negative feedback here is because he gets more positive feedback than he deserves a lot of the time, especially from you who seems to overrate Serral in every thread you appear. If you post rather far out opinions on any matter, you can expect people to meet it with the contrary.
This literally can't be right since I registered an account to this forum well after people started badmouthing him; maybe you didn't, but many insulted Serral after WESG this year. You guys don't perceive Serral as just a top player, you perceive him as a non korean top player.
I consider superiority something else than playing slightly better throughout a series, for me to say someone looked superior there must have been a stomp, and even then Sc2 is a game volatile enough to render this kind of comments someway pointless. I am not overrating Serral, I could say you underrate him because he plays in WCS; also, have you got any idea about how much you venerate Maru? I saw nobody saying Patience and Inno looked like the better player the day he was eliminated from Code S, and I surely weren't there saying that.
Just in this thread multiple people value Serral as one of the best players in the world. I literally said he and Stats are neck/neck overall.
Your problem is, {even though you try to hide it sometimes) you perceive him as the undisputed best without any valid reason except annoying fanboyism and can't admit another player was just straight up better in the series if Serral loses (and it doesn't even happen often).
Inno looked superior to Maru in that GSL. Honestly he always does when they play against each other. Patience is another story. He was well prepared and a bit lucky, I don't think that's remotely comparable...
On August 04 2019 04:02 JJH777 wrote: Did he only bring one probe or did he just lose another one earlier too? Weird decision to only bring one probe if that's what he did.
Haha Stats screwed that up a little but tbf, this is deceptively a somewhat hard map to pull that cannon rush off. I'm surprised that the Koreans seem to always do it on this map but never attempt it on IMO better maps like Cyber
On August 04 2019 02:52 Xain0n wrote: Serral in 2019 really isn't as clutch as he used to be; Stats played very well and deserved, those stupid teasing comments are so needless; is Stats a superior player overall? I highly doubt it.
I don't mind Stats winning the tournament for Aiur, I would be disappointed if he ended up losing to Solar after what he showed against Serral.
Comeon is it that hard for you to admit Stats looked superior in this series? Its not like he landslided him, it was a close series but Stats just looked better, I think everyone saw that. And who is overall better that is quite pointless to discuss they are both so insanely good , right at the top of the food-chain
Yeah I don't see how anyone can watch that series and try to say Stats wasn't the superior player. Even the games Serral won weren't that impressive, one was a dumb ling rush that won because Stats hadn't walled off yet, and the other had zerg reach 30 infestors almost uncontested, which is a scenario they have no business losing.
You wouldn't be waving this "superior player" nonsense if Stats beat a top korean Zerg 3-2 in a close series, I don't remember Classic being called superior when he barely edged out Dark 4-3 in Code S season 2 earlier this year.
You guys eagerly wait for Serral to lose to restore your idea of korean supremacy, forgetting no top player ever was winning every tournament(actually, nobody before Serral last year did since May); you will never deal with the fact Serral won BlizzCon and are overzealous in bashing Serral every time he loses, no other top player is welcomed with such negative feedback on this forum.
This time it was actually mild, but take a look at what happened after WESG.
If Stats had beaten Dark in the exact same fashion, you bet I'd have called him out as being the better player there. I remember when he beat Dark 4-3 in the super cup last year I was trashing Dark for how he bad played. And it's not like I'm bashing Serral here either, all I said was Stats played much better. Although now I think about it Serral wasn't that impressive at all, the two games he won are games no zerg should really lose.
I don't recall bashing Serral after WeSG either (this year at least, he deserved it last year).
And lastly, the reason you think Serral is met with seemingly negative feedback here is because he gets more positive feedback than he deserves a lot of the time, especially from you who seems to overrate Serral in every thread you appear. If you post rather far out opinions on any matter, you can expect people to meet it with the contrary.
This literally can't be right since I registered an account to this forum well after people started badmouthing him; maybe you didn't, but many insulted Serral after WESG this year. You guys don't perceive Serral as just a top player, you perceive him as a non korean top player.
I consider superiority something else than playing slightly better throughout a series, for me to say someone looked superior there must have been a stomp, and even then Sc2 is a game volatile enough to render this kind of comments someway pointless. I am not overrating Serral, I could say you underrate him because he plays in WCS; also, have you got any idea about how much you venerate Maru? I saw nobody saying Patience and Inno looked like the better player the day he was eliminated from Code S, and I surely weren't there saying that.
Just in this thread multiple people value Serral as one of the best players in the world. I literally said he and Stats are neck/neck overall.
Your problem is, {even though you try to hide it sometimes) you perceive him as the undisputed best without any valid reason except annoying fanboyism and can't admit another player was just straight up better in the series if Serral loses (and it doesn't even happen often).
Inno looked superior to Maru in that GSL. Honestly he always does when they play against each other. Patience is another story. He was well prepared and a bit lucky, I don't think that's remotely comparable...
No player is as complete as Serral, as consistent, and as competitive in any matchup, that is my personal opinion; Serral being one of the best in the world is just a reality. I do think Stats roflstomped Serral in their series at HSC, he looked superior there; today, the series was very close and I didn't perceive any superiority. Stats was peerless in his use of Oracles, but the difference was as slight as the outcome.
On August 04 2019 02:52 Xain0n wrote: Serral in 2019 really isn't as clutch as he used to be; Stats played very well and deserved, those stupid teasing comments are so needless; is Stats a superior player overall? I highly doubt it.
I don't mind Stats winning the tournament for Aiur, I would be disappointed if he ended up losing to Solar after what he showed against Serral.
Comeon is it that hard for you to admit Stats looked superior in this series? Its not like he landslided him, it was a close series but Stats just looked better, I think everyone saw that. And who is overall better that is quite pointless to discuss they are both so insanely good , right at the top of the food-chain
Yeah I don't see how anyone can watch that series and try to say Stats wasn't the superior player. Even the games Serral won weren't that impressive, one was a dumb ling rush that won because Stats hadn't walled off yet, and the other had zerg reach 30 infestors almost uncontested, which is a scenario they have no business losing.
You wouldn't be waving this "superior player" nonsense if Stats beat a top korean Zerg 3-2 in a close series, I don't remember Classic being called superior when he barely edged out Dark 4-3 in Code S season 2 earlier this year.
You guys eagerly wait for Serral to lose to restore your idea of korean supremacy, forgetting no top player ever was winning every tournament(actually, nobody before Serral last year did since May); you will never deal with the fact Serral won BlizzCon and are overzealous in bashing Serral every time he loses, no other top player is welcomed with such negative feedback on this forum.
This time it was actually mild, but take a look at what happened after WESG.
If Stats had beaten Dark in the exact same fashion, you bet I'd have called him out as being the better player there. I remember when he beat Dark 4-3 in the super cup last year I was trashing Dark for how he bad played. And it's not like I'm bashing Serral here either, all I said was Stats played much better. Although now I think about it Serral wasn't that impressive at all, the two games he won are games no zerg should really lose.
I don't recall bashing Serral after WeSG either (this year at least, he deserved it last year).
And lastly, the reason you think Serral is met with seemingly negative feedback here is because he gets more positive feedback than he deserves a lot of the time, especially from you who seems to overrate Serral in every thread you appear. If you post rather far out opinions on any matter, you can expect people to meet it with the contrary.
This literally can't be right since I registered an account to this forum well after people started badmouthing him; maybe you didn't, but many insulted Serral after WESG this year. You guys don't perceive Serral as just a top player, you perceive him as a non korean top player.
I consider superiority something else than playing slightly better throughout a series, for me to say someone looked superior there must have been a stomp, and even then Sc2 is a game volatile enough to render this kind of comments someway pointless. I am not overrating Serral, I could say you underrate him because he plays in WCS; also, have you got any idea about how much you venerate Maru? I saw nobody saying Patience and Inno looked like the better player the day he was eliminated from Code S, and I surely weren't there saying that.
Just in this thread multiple people value Serral as one of the best players in the world. I literally said he and Stats are neck/neck overall.
Your problem is, {even though you try to hide it sometimes) you perceive him as the undisputed best without any valid reason except annoying fanboyism and can't admit another player was just straight up better in the series if Serral loses (and it doesn't even happen often).
Inno looked superior to Maru in that GSL. Honestly he always does when they play against each other. Patience is another story. He was well prepared and a bit lucky, I don't think that's remotely comparable...
No player is as complete as Serral, as consistent, and as competitive in any matchup,
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