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Can showtime have more luck?
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On July 14 2019 23:43 Argonauta wrote:
Can showtime have more luck?
This doesn't look very lucky right now
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That was the first meh game of the day.
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On July 14 2019 23:43 HolydaKing wrote:
That was the first meh game of the day.
it was beautiful
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On July 14 2019 23:31 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2019 23:17 stilt wrote:On July 14 2019 23:02 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2019 22:57 Xain0n wrote:On July 14 2019 22:55 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2019 22:54 HolydaKing wrote:
Reynor can't stop smiling. Will he still smile once infestors get nerfed again is the real question Will he still smile when EMP becomes huge is the real question; lategame TvZ is even. Do I trust Solar or Xain0n here? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/b48w24/some_stories_about_maru_vs_scarlett_at_wesg/Dunno if the situation has changed about the late game in this mu but this is a legit question. Hm seems to crush most of eu Z in late game while inno toyed this serral at iem before he figured out in a close game at wesg. Edit : I am not sure but if I remember correctly, solar was speaking about late game mech vs zerg right ? Yeah I remember the consenus between INnoVation and Maru is that T wins endgame, but I often wonder how much of that is just false positive from how good the 2 are haha. I think it actually comes down to whether Terran can split the map. And I do think mech is just boned in lategame. Modern mech seems to secure map control through mobility, and have very hard time when the Zerg player actually manages to match their economy and get comfortable tech.
Maybe but inno seems quite vocal about balance...
I feel the same for mech but in libe/ghots, there are some possibilities with the nuke harass which is tricky to defend and a ball of bio in order to have good trade at the other sides of the map, a perfect zerg play should overcome this but it didn't prevent inno to toy with serral at iem and when the latter figured out in wesg it was so damn close.
Heromarine seems to have decent success too, at least, it is not the same bullshit at it is against mech and even worst, protoss.
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I actually looked away. What happened?
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On July 14 2019 23:44 Argonauta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2019 23:43 HolydaKing wrote:
That was the first meh game of the day. it was beautiful
Yeah it was well done by TIME at least.
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On July 14 2019 23:45 GumBa wrote:
I actually looked away. What happened?
Tesagi happened
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On July 14 2019 23:44 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2019 23:31 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2019 23:17 stilt wrote:On July 14 2019 23:02 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2019 22:57 Xain0n wrote:On July 14 2019 22:55 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2019 22:54 HolydaKing wrote:
Reynor can't stop smiling. Will he still smile once infestors get nerfed again is the real question Will he still smile when EMP becomes huge is the real question; lategame TvZ is even. Do I trust Solar or Xain0n here? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/b48w24/some_stories_about_maru_vs_scarlett_at_wesg/Dunno if the situation has changed about the late game in this mu but this is a legit question. Hm seems to crush most of eu Z in late game while inno toyed this serral at iem before he figured out in a close game at wesg. Edit : I am not sure but if I remember correctly, solar was speaking about late game mech vs zerg right ? Yeah I remember the consenus between INnoVation and Maru is that T wins endgame, but I often wonder how much of that is just false positive from how good the 2 are haha. I think it actually comes down to whether Terran can split the map. And I do think mech is just boned in lategame. Modern mech seems to secure map control through mobility, and have very hard time when the Zerg player actually manages to match their economy and get comfortable tech. Maybe but inno seems quite vocal about balance... I feel the same for mech but in libe/ghots, there are some possibilities with the nuke harass which is tricky to defend and a ball of bio in order to have good trade at the other sides of the map, a perfect zerg play should overcome this but it didn't prevent inno to toy with serral at iem and when the latter figured out in wesg it was so damn close. Heromarine seems to have decent success too, at least, it is not the same bullshit at it is against mech and even worst, protoss.
It's just so severely map dependent. On Thunderbird it's really hard for Zerg, on Cyber Forest Terran shouldn't even bother trying.
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On July 14 2019 23:45 GumBa wrote:
I actually looked away. What happened?
Widow Mines and some beautiful Chinese Cheddar
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On July 14 2019 23:48 AzAlexZ wrote:Widow Mines and some beautiful Chinese Cheddar
sparkled with flawless stutter step micro
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On July 14 2019 23:44 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2019 23:31 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2019 23:17 stilt wrote:On July 14 2019 23:02 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2019 22:57 Xain0n wrote:On July 14 2019 22:55 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2019 22:54 HolydaKing wrote:
Reynor can't stop smiling. Will he still smile once infestors get nerfed again is the real question Will he still smile when EMP becomes huge is the real question; lategame TvZ is even. Do I trust Solar or Xain0n here? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/b48w24/some_stories_about_maru_vs_scarlett_at_wesg/Dunno if the situation has changed about the late game in this mu but this is a legit question. Hm seems to crush most of eu Z in late game while inno toyed this serral at iem before he figured out in a close game at wesg. Edit : I am not sure but if I remember correctly, solar was speaking about late game mech vs zerg right ? Yeah I remember the consenus between INnoVation and Maru is that T wins endgame, but I often wonder how much of that is just false positive from how good the 2 are haha. I think it actually comes down to whether Terran can split the map. And I do think mech is just boned in lategame. Modern mech seems to secure map control through mobility, and have very hard time when the Zerg player actually manages to match their economy and get comfortable tech. Maybe but inno seems quite vocal about balance... I feel the same for mech but in libe/ghots, there are some possibilities with the nuke harass which is tricky to defend and a ball of bio in order to have good trade at the other sides of the map, a perfect zerg play should overcome this but it didn't prevent inno to toy with serral at iem and when the latter figured out in wesg it was so damn close. Heromarine seems to have decent success too, at least, it is not the same bullshit at it is against mech and even worst, protoss.
I feel like the average WCS Zerg is just much better with infestors than the average WCS Terran is with ghosts.
The question which race wins ultra lategame is still unsolved imo. My feeling says Terran though. If I see Inno and Maru play super lategame it just seems so unstoppable. Even Serral transitioned into a more dynamic lategame with different unit comps all over the map instead of a deathball.
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I'm pretty underwhelmed by this cast considering I'm watching TIME vs ShoWTimE.
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On July 14 2019 23:50 Elentos wrote:
I'm pretty underwhelmed by this cast considering I'm watching TIME vs ShoWTimE.
The lack of puns makes it pretti mediocre
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On July 14 2019 23:50 ChaosArcher wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2019 23:44 stilt wrote:On July 14 2019 23:31 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2019 23:17 stilt wrote:On July 14 2019 23:02 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2019 22:57 Xain0n wrote:On July 14 2019 22:55 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2019 22:54 HolydaKing wrote:
Reynor can't stop smiling. Will he still smile once infestors get nerfed again is the real question Will he still smile when EMP becomes huge is the real question; lategame TvZ is even. Do I trust Solar or Xain0n here? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/b48w24/some_stories_about_maru_vs_scarlett_at_wesg/Dunno if the situation has changed about the late game in this mu but this is a legit question. Hm seems to crush most of eu Z in late game while inno toyed this serral at iem before he figured out in a close game at wesg. Edit : I am not sure but if I remember correctly, solar was speaking about late game mech vs zerg right ? Yeah I remember the consenus between INnoVation and Maru is that T wins endgame, but I often wonder how much of that is just false positive from how good the 2 are haha. I think it actually comes down to whether Terran can split the map. And I do think mech is just boned in lategame. Modern mech seems to secure map control through mobility, and have very hard time when the Zerg player actually manages to match their economy and get comfortable tech. Maybe but inno seems quite vocal about balance... I feel the same for mech but in libe/ghots, there are some possibilities with the nuke harass which is tricky to defend and a ball of bio in order to have good trade at the other sides of the map, a perfect zerg play should overcome this but it didn't prevent inno to toy with serral at iem and when the latter figured out in wesg it was so damn close. Heromarine seems to have decent success too, at least, it is not the same bullshit at it is against mech and even worst, protoss. I feel like the average WCS Zerg is just much better with infestors than the average WCS Terran is with ghosts. The question which race wins ultra lategame is still unsolved imo. My feeling says Terran though. If I see Inno and Maru play super lategame it just seems so unstoppable. Even Serral transitioned into a more dynamic lategame with different unit comps all over the map instead of a deathball.
and still Inno and Maru lost lategame to Serral and Scarlett
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On July 14 2019 23:51 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2019 23:50 ChaosArcher wrote:On July 14 2019 23:44 stilt wrote:On July 14 2019 23:31 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2019 23:17 stilt wrote:On July 14 2019 23:02 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2019 22:57 Xain0n wrote:On July 14 2019 22:55 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2019 22:54 HolydaKing wrote:
Reynor can't stop smiling. Will he still smile once infestors get nerfed again is the real question Will he still smile when EMP becomes huge is the real question; lategame TvZ is even. Do I trust Solar or Xain0n here? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/b48w24/some_stories_about_maru_vs_scarlett_at_wesg/Dunno if the situation has changed about the late game in this mu but this is a legit question. Hm seems to crush most of eu Z in late game while inno toyed this serral at iem before he figured out in a close game at wesg. Edit : I am not sure but if I remember correctly, solar was speaking about late game mech vs zerg right ? Yeah I remember the consenus between INnoVation and Maru is that T wins endgame, but I often wonder how much of that is just false positive from how good the 2 are haha. I think it actually comes down to whether Terran can split the map. And I do think mech is just boned in lategame. Modern mech seems to secure map control through mobility, and have very hard time when the Zerg player actually manages to match their economy and get comfortable tech. Maybe but inno seems quite vocal about balance... I feel the same for mech but in libe/ghots, there are some possibilities with the nuke harass which is tricky to defend and a ball of bio in order to have good trade at the other sides of the map, a perfect zerg play should overcome this but it didn't prevent inno to toy with serral at iem and when the latter figured out in wesg it was so damn close. Heromarine seems to have decent success too, at least, it is not the same bullshit at it is against mech and even worst, protoss. I feel like the average WCS Zerg is just much better with infestors than the average WCS Terran is with ghosts. The question which race wins ultra lategame is still unsolved imo. My feeling says Terran though. If I see Inno and Maru play super lategame it just seems so unstoppable. Even Serral transitioned into a more dynamic lategame with different unit comps all over the map instead of a deathball. and still Inno and Maru lost lategame to Serral and Scarlett
Like to be fair Maru forgot his buildings could fly, if you don't know that how are you ever gonna win anything?
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On July 14 2019 23:44 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2019 23:31 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2019 23:17 stilt wrote:On July 14 2019 23:02 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2019 22:57 Xain0n wrote:On July 14 2019 22:55 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2019 22:54 HolydaKing wrote:
Reynor can't stop smiling. Will he still smile once infestors get nerfed again is the real question Will he still smile when EMP becomes huge is the real question; lategame TvZ is even. Do I trust Solar or Xain0n here? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/b48w24/some_stories_about_maru_vs_scarlett_at_wesg/Dunno if the situation has changed about the late game in this mu but this is a legit question. Hm seems to crush most of eu Z in late game while inno toyed this serral at iem before he figured out in a close game at wesg. Edit : I am not sure but if I remember correctly, solar was speaking about late game mech vs zerg right ? Yeah I remember the consenus between INnoVation and Maru is that T wins endgame, but I often wonder how much of that is just false positive from how good the 2 are haha. I think it actually comes down to whether Terran can split the map. And I do think mech is just boned in lategame. Modern mech seems to secure map control through mobility, and have very hard time when the Zerg player actually manages to match their economy and get comfortable tech. Maybe but inno seems quite vocal about balance... I feel the same for mech but in libe/ghots, there are some possibilities with the nuke harass which is tricky to defend and a ball of bio in order to have good trade at the other sides of the map, a perfect zerg play should overcome this but it didn't prevent inno to toy with serral at iem and when the latter figured out in wesg it was so damn close. Heromarine seems to have decent success too, at least, it is not the same bullshit at it is against mech and even worst, protoss.
the big selling point of battle mech is they can secure a healthy eco in exchange for combat prowess which means terran players can transition however they want in late game but most mech players choose staying with mech units because of upgrades
battle mech is also very gud at multi pronged harrass to slow down zerg
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On July 14 2019 23:52 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2019 23:51 Charoisaur wrote:On July 14 2019 23:50 ChaosArcher wrote:On July 14 2019 23:44 stilt wrote:On July 14 2019 23:31 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2019 23:17 stilt wrote:On July 14 2019 23:02 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2019 22:57 Xain0n wrote:On July 14 2019 22:55 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2019 22:54 HolydaKing wrote:
Reynor can't stop smiling. Will he still smile once infestors get nerfed again is the real question Will he still smile when EMP becomes huge is the real question; lategame TvZ is even. Do I trust Solar or Xain0n here? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/b48w24/some_stories_about_maru_vs_scarlett_at_wesg/Dunno if the situation has changed about the late game in this mu but this is a legit question. Hm seems to crush most of eu Z in late game while inno toyed this serral at iem before he figured out in a close game at wesg. Edit : I am not sure but if I remember correctly, solar was speaking about late game mech vs zerg right ? Yeah I remember the consenus between INnoVation and Maru is that T wins endgame, but I often wonder how much of that is just false positive from how good the 2 are haha. I think it actually comes down to whether Terran can split the map. And I do think mech is just boned in lategame. Modern mech seems to secure map control through mobility, and have very hard time when the Zerg player actually manages to match their economy and get comfortable tech. Maybe but inno seems quite vocal about balance... I feel the same for mech but in libe/ghots, there are some possibilities with the nuke harass which is tricky to defend and a ball of bio in order to have good trade at the other sides of the map, a perfect zerg play should overcome this but it didn't prevent inno to toy with serral at iem and when the latter figured out in wesg it was so damn close. Heromarine seems to have decent success too, at least, it is not the same bullshit at it is against mech and even worst, protoss. I feel like the average WCS Zerg is just much better with infestors than the average WCS Terran is with ghosts. The question which race wins ultra lategame is still unsolved imo. My feeling says Terran though. If I see Inno and Maru play super lategame it just seems so unstoppable. Even Serral transitioned into a more dynamic lategame with different unit comps all over the map instead of a deathball. and still Inno and Maru lost lategame to Serral and Scarlett Like to be fair Maru forgot his buildings could fly, if you don't know that how are you ever gonna win anything?
4 times GSL winner btw
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