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[GSL 2019] Season 2 - Quarterfinals Day 2 - Page 7

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mpmaley86
Profile Joined May 2019
115 Posts
June 08 2019 12:17 GMT
#121
DARK!
Can someone photoshop to get 'dark' and 'protoss' on this:[image loading]
Macrobe
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom87 Posts
June 08 2019 13:55 GMT
#122
Rooting for a Dark vs Classic finals so we can get a runback of their awesome semifinals from season 1 this year.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
June 08 2019 20:00 GMT
#123
Dark is a beast.

After getting abused by toss on the ladder for 10 days (new to the game) getting to see him put down that push that always kills me was inspiring.

I am a bad player (diamond 3) so it feels good that someone can beat a P, even if it isn't me.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24387 Posts
June 08 2019 21:53 GMT
#124
Dark vs herO, god some of those games.

Dark’s builds and drone/unit timing choices were straight up baffling to me first two games.

Playing stupidly all-in and taking a calculated gamble, or going ‘eco cheese’ on the same basis, sure, it’s Starcraft, it’s mindgames etc.

Of his own choosing he seemed to do the worst of all worlds,
not aggressive enough to do anything, cutting too much eco to actually hold certain pushes.

Perhaps he’s mindgaming herO’s tendencies and they have practiced together and know each other very well, it seemed to me that he relied way way too much on herO letting lings through walls, or moving out and getting surrounded, just didn’t feel solid at all.

I feel it’s good for the tournament that it’s not all PvP for sure, but I hope Dark brings something a bit better next round.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-09 00:00:58
June 08 2019 23:59 GMT
#125
On June 09 2019 06:53 Wombat_NI wrote:
Dark vs herO, god some of those games.

Dark’s builds and drone/unit timing choices were straight up baffling to me first two games.

Playing stupidly all-in and taking a calculated gamble, or going ‘eco cheese’ on the same basis, sure, it’s Starcraft, it’s mindgames etc.

Of his own choosing he seemed to do the worst of all worlds,
not aggressive enough to do anything, cutting too much eco to actually hold certain pushes.

Perhaps he’s mindgaming herO’s tendencies and they have practiced together and know each other very well, it seemed to me that he relied way way too much on herO letting lings through walls, or moving out and getting surrounded, just didn’t feel solid at all.

I feel it’s good for the tournament that it’s not all PvP for sure, but I hope Dark brings something a bit better next round.

i felt like maybe dark was onto something with the big commitment to units. it can't be a mistake. maybe he played on ladder and found it was more consistent to skip the drones that would die to adepts anyway and make something happen with runbys. it's entirely possible that in this meta it's a valid way to play zerg, kind of like how TvP is based on units and aggression right now. once in a while a pro shows the world that what we think we know about a matchup has shifted.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24387 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-09 00:11:32
June 09 2019 00:10 GMT
#126
On June 09 2019 08:59 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2019 06:53 Wombat_NI wrote:
Dark vs herO, god some of those games.

Dark’s builds and drone/unit timing choices were straight up baffling to me first two games.

Playing stupidly all-in and taking a calculated gamble, or going ‘eco cheese’ on the same basis, sure, it’s Starcraft, it’s mindgames etc.

Of his own choosing he seemed to do the worst of all worlds,
not aggressive enough to do anything, cutting too much eco to actually hold certain pushes.

Perhaps he’s mindgaming herO’s tendencies and they have practiced together and know each other very well, it seemed to me that he relied way way too much on herO letting lings through walls, or moving out and getting surrounded, just didn’t feel solid at all.

I feel it’s good for the tournament that it’s not all PvP for sure, but I hope Dark brings something a bit better next round.

i felt like maybe dark was onto something with the big commitment to units. it can't be a mistake. maybe he played on ladder and found it was more consistent to skip the drones that would die to adepts anyway and make something happen with runbys. it's entirely possible that in this meta it's a valid way to play zerg, kind of like how TvP is based on units and aggression right now

TvP is a bit different though, a ton of bio on your doorstep is different from a bunch of lings. You can’t just turtle behind your wall

That’s sort of what I meant by the worst of halfway houses, he cuts too much eco to be safe against certain things, but doesn’t commit enough to aggression to be aggressive.

Perhaps I’m missing something, these guys know what they’re doing.

soO made it through the Ro16 with some really calculated hardcore allins. Sure that’s risky in a sense, but I get his game plan there.

I’ll maybe rewatch them properly, games 1 and 2 it felt to me he had a bunch of units floating around too early, but not in sufficient number to really be properly aggressive with confidence.

‘I hope herO decides to push out to do a push he doesn’t have to do and I get a surround in open ground’ does not sound a stable plan to me.

Weird games for sure, definitely worth a detailed rewatch


'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TanksALot
Profile Joined December 2002
United States153 Posts
June 09 2019 13:26 GMT
#127
On June 08 2019 14:37 IshinShishi wrote:
Noregret 1x9 carrying rapid today, props.


Truth. Some of rapids casting is just embarrassing.
Big up
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
June 09 2019 15:00 GMT
#128
On June 09 2019 09:10 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2019 08:59 brickrd wrote:
On June 09 2019 06:53 Wombat_NI wrote:
Dark vs herO, god some of those games.

Dark’s builds and drone/unit timing choices were straight up baffling to me first two games.

Playing stupidly all-in and taking a calculated gamble, or going ‘eco cheese’ on the same basis, sure, it’s Starcraft, it’s mindgames etc.

Of his own choosing he seemed to do the worst of all worlds,
not aggressive enough to do anything, cutting too much eco to actually hold certain pushes.

Perhaps he’s mindgaming herO’s tendencies and they have practiced together and know each other very well, it seemed to me that he relied way way too much on herO letting lings through walls, or moving out and getting surrounded, just didn’t feel solid at all.

I feel it’s good for the tournament that it’s not all PvP for sure, but I hope Dark brings something a bit better next round.

i felt like maybe dark was onto something with the big commitment to units. it can't be a mistake. maybe he played on ladder and found it was more consistent to skip the drones that would die to adepts anyway and make something happen with runbys. it's entirely possible that in this meta it's a valid way to play zerg, kind of like how TvP is based on units and aggression right now

TvP is a bit different though, a ton of bio on your doorstep is different from a bunch of lings. You can’t just turtle behind your wall

That’s sort of what I meant by the worst of halfway houses, he cuts too much eco to be safe against certain things, but doesn’t commit enough to aggression to be aggressive.

Perhaps I’m missing something, these guys know what they’re doing.

soO made it through the Ro16 with some really calculated hardcore allins. Sure that’s risky in a sense, but I get his game plan there.

I’ll maybe rewatch them properly, games 1 and 2 it felt to me he had a bunch of units floating around too early, but not in sufficient number to really be properly aggressive with confidence.

‘I hope herO decides to push out to do a push he doesn’t have to do and I get a surround in open ground’ does not sound a stable plan to me.

Weird games for sure, definitely worth a detailed rewatch




Honestly, I kinda feel like the games were so bad that they’re leading to a false sense of analysis that’s just going to lead to more conclusions that don’t actually fix the matchup.

Both players just seemed completely out of it.
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