He played decent like any 6K+ protoss would do, he did a major misstakes that cost him 30 supply and let heromarine, who is the probably the best terran foreigner in this type of game, get away with one of the most greedy build he can play, Tvp midgame is insane no matter who you are and no matter who you play against, hope maru ty and innovation get crushed by inferior protoss player in GSL to make blizzard react, i doubt they can find any nerf to protoss without breaking PvZ and making terran too strong considering that early game and lategame are fine, but one of the two not reachable, hope i underestimate the balance team that will be a rough task to make it decently fair

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

February 01 2019 16:03 GMT

#22

it looks a little rough for terran mid/late but I am excited to see innovation win gsl anyways

Mlord

France135 Posts

February 01 2019 16:05 GMT

#23

Lategame is fine if you reach it evenly, the interaction between the newthor/new tempest and BC/carrier make it pretty even , props to the blizzard team on this one

darklycid

3540 Posts

February 01 2019 16:06 GMT

#24

On February 02 2019 01:05 Mlord wrote:
Lategame is fine if you reach it evenly, the interaction between the newthor/new tempest and BC/carrier make it pretty even , props to the blizzard team on this one

So what would you say is the biggest problem in the midgame right now? Chrono?

Mlord

France135 Posts

February 01 2019 16:14 GMT

#25

I'm obviously biased, but i feel like its a pack of insanity that we have to deal with, chronoboost is insane, the fact that toss can expand more than a zerg thanks to recall, warpin and battery shield, and if its not enough every tech unit you are gonna add to your army is gonna make your army go from very strong to insanely strong to unbeatable, for example, the addition of disruptor to a colossus army makes it insane, if you want to win a fight vs colossus you need a good concave and non stop shooting from your army, thats how the game works, but also the disruptor force you to split so you can't shoot, nobody is gonna split perfectly right but even if you do so you miss alot of DPS with your army, which makes it even or good for the protoss, + the fact that you can easily run back and save your army from a bad engagement with storm or disruptor, while if you take a bad fight as terran you get blinked on and its pretty much over . TvP early got nerfed but remains totally duable, but as you just witnessed a good blindcounter and you are losing to a way inferior player... so i'm not sure what blizzard should do, but considering how insane protoss army is, i think aiming at his mobility would be a good choice, so maybe a huge recall nerf but it's obviously hard to know if it would be enough/change much

Nakajin

Canada8989 Posts

February 01 2019 16:15 GMT

#26

Wasn't ZG suppose to be casting, did she cancel?

Edit: Haha Mana with the Alphastar probe strats

Dani_jug

2 Posts

February 01 2019 16:18 GMT

#27

Do you think that pure marine/marauder is viable against colossi/archon/immortal?
Then do you think that a LOT of vikings is viable against an army "without" collossi?
For me it looks that skillous benefits from his map control. He really had prefect map control and perfect understanding of "what he plays agains", while Heromarine were in dark for the most of the game.
This is why Skillous had 5th uncontended, this is why his army mix was always one step ahead of HeroMarine's one.
Looked like quite a dumb brute-force from player who is supposed to be better player. But not in this game at all.

Aeromi

France14461 Posts

February 01 2019 16:20 GMT

#28

On February 02 2019 01:15 Nakajin wrote:
Wasn't ZG suppose to be casting, did she cancel?

Edit: Haha Mana with the Alphastar probe strats

She is casting next week.

Nakajin

Canada8989 Posts

February 01 2019 16:25 GMT

#29

On February 02 2019 01:20 Aeromi wrote:

Show nested quote +

She is casting next week.

Thanks, do you know if we are loosing someone in exchange?

Scarlett`

Canada2393 Posts

February 01 2019 16:52 GMT

#30

great to see so much new protoss talent coming into the scene recently
+ Show Spoiler +

fLyiNgDroNe

Belgium4068 Posts

February 01 2019 16:54 GMT

#31

haha Scarlett with memes

darklycid

3540 Posts

February 01 2019 16:56 GMT

#32

On February 02 2019 01:52 Scarlett` wrote:
great to see so much new protoss talent coming into the scene recently

Need that new protoss talent to fight the new Zerg talent from last year

Scarlett`

Canada2393 Posts

February 01 2019 17:01 GMT

#33

On February 02 2019 01:14 Mlord wrote:
I'm obviously biased, but i feel like its a pack of insanity that we have to deal with, chronoboost is insane, the fact that toss can expand more than a zerg thanks to recall, warpin and battery shield, and if its not enough every tech unit you are gonna add to your army is gonna make your army go from very strong to insanely strong to unbeatable, for example, the addition of disruptor to a colossus army makes it insane, if you want to win a fight vs colossus you need a good concave and non stop shooting from your army, thats how the game works, but also the disruptor force you to split so you can't shoot, nobody is gonna split perfectly right but even if you do so you miss alot of DPS with your army, which makes it even or good for the protoss, + the fact that you can easily run back and save your army from a bad engagement with storm or disruptor, while if you take a bad fight as terran you get blinked on and its pretty much over . TvP early got nerfed but remains totally duable, but as you just witnessed a good blindcounter and you are losing to a way inferior player... so i'm not sure what blizzard should do, but considering how insane protoss army is, i think aiming at his mobility would be a good choice, so maybe a huge recall nerf but it's obviously hard to know if it would be enough/change much

not to mention the observer and hallucination buffs make it so they get full scouting with any opening and you have to struggle to see part of their base