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JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2517 Posts
October 29 2018 00:27 GMT
#2021
On October 29 2018 09:25 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 09:25 starkiller123 wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:24 Achamian wrote:
I like how none of the commentary mentioned Special. That dude is going to murder Stats.

you are crazy

He beat him at last year's WCS grand finals, so it's not unbelievable.


Well, it's been a whole year since that happened. Not the best argument to support your prediction.
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
October 29 2018 00:27 GMT
#2022
On October 29 2018 09:24 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 09:22 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:19 Fango wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:17 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:15 JoeCool wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:14 Paljas wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:13 Boucot wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:10 CynicalDeath wrote:
lol that Maru Serral rig rule

What rule ? I didn't hear.

apparently maru and serral are on opposite of the bracket cause they rank 1st in wcs rankings. which makes no sense whatsoever, but i wont complain


Yeah I mean, that's what everyone wanted anyways. So it's fine.

you don't suddenly shift your rules for no logical reason other than people wanting it

To be fair, tournament organisers can change whatever rules they want if it will make a better show

the WCS rules were announced at the start of the season though. technically they have the right to change it when they want but the lack of transparency doing this is concerning

In this case it works though. A good system is one where the #1 and #2 players are on opposite sides.

Although I agree the announcement of this after groups is a joke. But then again they changed gsl vs the world format to force a maru vs serral match so why not


I agree, they should have announced this once both Serral and Maru were confirmed to go through to the ro8. Still, it's really not that big of a deal imo. It's not like they gave Serral and Maru a 1 map advantage in their games too. They just put the 2 top players on opposite ends like every sport does.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 29 2018 00:27 GMT
#2023
On October 29 2018 09:25 StasisField wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 09:20 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:18 Paljas wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:17 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:15 JoeCool wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:14 Paljas wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:13 Boucot wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:10 CynicalDeath wrote:
lol that Maru Serral rig rule

What rule ? I didn't hear.

apparently maru and serral are on opposite of the bracket cause they rank 1st in wcs rankings. which makes no sense whatsoever, but i wont complain


Yeah I mean, that's what everyone wanted anyways. So it's fine.

you don't suddenly shift your rules for no logical reason other than people wanting it

why not, lol.

ever heard of something called competitive integrity? In every other sport rigging the bracket to make 2 favourites face later in the tournament would be a HUGE controversy.
it's not much better than what Life did tbh.


I suggest you look at every playoff bracket a traditional sport ever does and then try to tell me most sports don't purposely try to line things up so the favorites play each other in the end rather than at the beginning.

Of course they do, but they fucking announce it at the start of the season. YOU KNOW how the play off will be played in advance. And not all leagues have play offs!

So you can actually PLAN it. Can you imagine that FIFA/UEFA would add a random rule just before drawing Champions League? What Blizzard just did is pathetic from sport/fair play view. Announce these rules properly and in advance.
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
October 29 2018 00:27 GMT
#2024
And it was in group stage
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
October 29 2018 00:27 GMT
#2025
On October 29 2018 09:26 Penev wrote:
Come on guys of course it's rigged

Every year we get NASL sound guy, glorious breaks, full foreigners and rigging. It's called tradition.
Sad and true.
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4029 Posts
October 29 2018 00:28 GMT
#2026
well should be some fun games next week, can't wait
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15880 Posts
October 29 2018 00:28 GMT
#2027
On October 29 2018 09:25 StasisField wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 09:20 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:18 Paljas wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:17 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:15 JoeCool wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:14 Paljas wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:13 Boucot wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:10 CynicalDeath wrote:
lol that Maru Serral rig rule

What rule ? I didn't hear.

apparently maru and serral are on opposite of the bracket cause they rank 1st in wcs rankings. which makes no sense whatsoever, but i wont complain


Yeah I mean, that's what everyone wanted anyways. So it's fine.

you don't suddenly shift your rules for no logical reason other than people wanting it

why not, lol.

ever heard of something called competitive integrity? In every other sport rigging the bracket to make 2 favourites face later in the tournament would be a HUGE controversy.
it's not much better than what Life did tbh.


I suggest you look at every playoff bracket a traditional sport ever does and then try to tell me most sports don't purposely try to line things up so the favorites play each other in the end rather than at the beginning.

They may or not. They don't straight up say "we rigged the bracket to make sure the favorites play each other later"
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
October 29 2018 00:29 GMT
#2028
On October 29 2018 09:27 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 09:25 Yonnua wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:25 starkiller123 wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:24 Achamian wrote:
I like how none of the commentary mentioned Special. That dude is going to murder Stats.

you are crazy

He beat him at last year's WCS grand finals, so it's not unbelievable.


Well, it's been a whole year since that happened. Not the best argument to support your prediction.

It's not my prediction- I'm a massive stats fan and I don't like Special. But saying that the other guy is crazy because he thinks Special stands a chance against stats is ridiculous. Stats has had a worse year than last year when Special beat him, so it's not at all impossible.
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CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3220 Posts
October 29 2018 00:29 GMT
#2029
On October 29 2018 09:27 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 09:25 StasisField wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:20 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:18 Paljas wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:17 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:15 JoeCool wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:14 Paljas wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:13 Boucot wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:10 CynicalDeath wrote:
lol that Maru Serral rig rule

What rule ? I didn't hear.

apparently maru and serral are on opposite of the bracket cause they rank 1st in wcs rankings. which makes no sense whatsoever, but i wont complain


Yeah I mean, that's what everyone wanted anyways. So it's fine.

you don't suddenly shift your rules for no logical reason other than people wanting it

why not, lol.

ever heard of something called competitive integrity? In every other sport rigging the bracket to make 2 favourites face later in the tournament would be a HUGE controversy.
it's not much better than what Life did tbh.


I suggest you look at every playoff bracket a traditional sport ever does and then try to tell me most sports don't purposely try to line things up so the favorites play each other in the end rather than at the beginning.

Of course they do, but they fucking announce it at the start of the season. YOU KNOW how the play off will be played in advance. And not all leagues have play offs!

So you can actually PLAN it. Can you imagine that FIFA/UEFA would add a random rule just before drawing Champions League? What Blizzard just did is pathetic from sport/fair play view. Announce these rules properly and in advance.

^ this
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StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
October 29 2018 00:29 GMT
#2030
On October 29 2018 09:27 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 09:25 StasisField wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:20 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:18 Paljas wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:17 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:15 JoeCool wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:14 Paljas wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:13 Boucot wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:10 CynicalDeath wrote:
lol that Maru Serral rig rule

What rule ? I didn't hear.

apparently maru and serral are on opposite of the bracket cause they rank 1st in wcs rankings. which makes no sense whatsoever, but i wont complain


Yeah I mean, that's what everyone wanted anyways. So it's fine.

you don't suddenly shift your rules for no logical reason other than people wanting it

why not, lol.

ever heard of something called competitive integrity? In every other sport rigging the bracket to make 2 favourites face later in the tournament would be a HUGE controversy.
it's not much better than what Life did tbh.


I suggest you look at every playoff bracket a traditional sport ever does and then try to tell me most sports don't purposely try to line things up so the favorites play each other in the end rather than at the beginning.

Of course they do, but they fucking announce it at the start of the season. YOU KNOW how the play off will be played in advance. And not all leagues have play offs!

So you can actually PLAN it. Can you imagine that FIFA/UEFA would add a random rule just before drawing Champions League? What Blizzard just did is pathetic from sport/fair play view. Announce these rules properly and in advance.


Out of all the things that could "taint" the integrity of competition, this has to be one of the lowest on my list tbh. I really don't see how this is that big of a deal.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7099 Posts
October 29 2018 00:30 GMT
#2031
On October 29 2018 09:28 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 09:25 StasisField wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:20 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:18 Paljas wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:17 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:15 JoeCool wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:14 Paljas wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:13 Boucot wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:10 CynicalDeath wrote:
lol that Maru Serral rig rule

What rule ? I didn't hear.

apparently maru and serral are on opposite of the bracket cause they rank 1st in wcs rankings. which makes no sense whatsoever, but i wont complain


Yeah I mean, that's what everyone wanted anyways. So it's fine.

you don't suddenly shift your rules for no logical reason other than people wanting it

why not, lol.

ever heard of something called competitive integrity? In every other sport rigging the bracket to make 2 favourites face later in the tournament would be a HUGE controversy.
it's not much better than what Life did tbh.


I suggest you look at every playoff bracket a traditional sport ever does and then try to tell me most sports don't purposely try to line things up so the favorites play each other in the end rather than at the beginning.

They may or not. They don't straight up say "we rigged the bracket to make sure the favorites play each other later"

Atleast in leagues they seed according to how the regular season went. It's stupid that esports doesn't do the same when it can.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-29 00:33:14
October 29 2018 00:31 GMT
#2032
On October 29 2018 09:28 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 09:25 StasisField wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:20 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:18 Paljas wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:17 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:15 JoeCool wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:14 Paljas wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:13 Boucot wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:10 CynicalDeath wrote:
lol that Maru Serral rig rule

What rule ? I didn't hear.

apparently maru and serral are on opposite of the bracket cause they rank 1st in wcs rankings. which makes no sense whatsoever, but i wont complain


Yeah I mean, that's what everyone wanted anyways. So it's fine.

you don't suddenly shift your rules for no logical reason other than people wanting it

why not, lol.

ever heard of something called competitive integrity? In every other sport rigging the bracket to make 2 favourites face later in the tournament would be a HUGE controversy.
it's not much better than what Life did tbh.


I suggest you look at every playoff bracket a traditional sport ever does and then try to tell me most sports don't purposely try to line things up so the favorites play each other in the end rather than at the beginning.

They may or not. They don't straight up say "we rigged the bracket to make sure the favorites play each other later"


Go check out the NBA, NFL, and MLB playoff brackets. Then, tell me where the best teams are placed relative to each other and how that's not done so the best don't play each other first. I honestly don't see how this is too different from that or worth caring about as much as many of y'all are.

EDIT: Although, I wish they had been clear about this from the beginning. I do agree with that, but I don't see this as corrupting fair play or anything like that, unless you consider what nearly every sport with a playoffs does as being unfair.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4029 Posts
October 29 2018 00:31 GMT
#2033
On October 29 2018 09:29 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 09:27 JoeCool wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:25 Yonnua wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:25 starkiller123 wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:24 Achamian wrote:
I like how none of the commentary mentioned Special. That dude is going to murder Stats.

you are crazy

He beat him at last year's WCS grand finals, so it's not unbelievable.


Well, it's been a whole year since that happened. Not the best argument to support your prediction.

It's not my prediction- I'm a massive stats fan and I don't like Special. But saying that the other guy is crazy because he thinks Special stands a chance against stats is ridiculous. Stats has had a worse year than last year when Special beat him, so it's not at all impossible.

he said Special is going to murder Stats and i completely disagree with that, last time they met it was a easy 3-0 for Stats and to say Special will murder Stats after he shows one good series is ridiculous
Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
October 29 2018 00:32 GMT
#2034
If sOs passes Maru, he has a real chance to go to the final.
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2622 Posts
October 29 2018 00:32 GMT
#2035
Blizzard isn't even trying to hide their foreigner bias anymore. After the whole WCS 2018 Trailer where they literally say "It's US vs THEM" to them rigging the seeding, this is a total shit show.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-29 00:32:33
October 29 2018 00:32 GMT
#2036
On October 29 2018 09:27 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 09:25 StasisField wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:20 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:18 Paljas wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:17 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:15 JoeCool wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:14 Paljas wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:13 Boucot wrote:
On October 29 2018 09:10 CynicalDeath wrote:
lol that Maru Serral rig rule

What rule ? I didn't hear.

apparently maru and serral are on opposite of the bracket cause they rank 1st in wcs rankings. which makes no sense whatsoever, but i wont complain


Yeah I mean, that's what everyone wanted anyways. So it's fine.

you don't suddenly shift your rules for no logical reason other than people wanting it

why not, lol.

ever heard of something called competitive integrity? In every other sport rigging the bracket to make 2 favourites face later in the tournament would be a HUGE controversy.
it's not much better than what Life did tbh.


I suggest you look at every playoff bracket a traditional sport ever does and then try to tell me most sports don't purposely try to line things up so the favorites play each other in the end rather than at the beginning.

Of course they do, but they fucking announce it at the start of the season. YOU KNOW how the play off will be played in advance. And not all leagues have play offs!

So you can actually PLAN it. Can you imagine that FIFA/UEFA would add a random rule just before drawing Champions League? What Blizzard just did is pathetic from sport/fair play view. Announce these rules properly and in advance.


Yeah this last minute rule is utter bullshit. And that's coming from someone who doesn't buy in to the narrative that they always rig brackets (except for KeSPA Cups).
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7099 Posts
October 29 2018 00:33 GMT
#2037
On October 29 2018 09:32 Brutaxilos wrote:
Blizzard isn't even trying to hide their foreigner bias anymore. After the whole WCS 2018 Trailer where they literally say "It's US vs THEM" to them rigging the seeding, this is a total shit show.

Cry is free my friend
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13969 Posts
October 29 2018 00:34 GMT
#2038
(P)sOs > (T)Maru
(P)Stats > (T)SpeCial
(Z)Rogue > (T)TY
(Z)Serral > (Z)Dark

(P)Stats > (P)sOs
(Z)Serral > (Z)Rogue

(P)Stats > (Z)Serral
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
October 29 2018 00:34 GMT
#2039
On October 29 2018 09:32 Brutaxilos wrote:
Blizzard isn't even trying to hide their foreigner bias anymore. After the whole WCS 2018 Trailer where they literally say "It's US vs THEM" to them rigging the seeding, this is a total shit show.

More like money bias tbh.
They know that’s what the viewers want (majority of them at least)
WriterMaru
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
October 29 2018 00:34 GMT
#2040
On October 29 2018 09:32 Brutaxilos wrote:
Blizzard isn't even trying to hide their foreigner bias anymore. After the whole WCS 2018 Trailer where they literally say "It's US vs THEM" to them rigging the seeding, this is a total shit show.


Curious, as someone that constantly is arguing against Blizzard's foreigner bias, what exactly is rigged about this bracket? That Special and Serral are on opposite sides of it? Is that it?
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