On May 09 2018 18:32 The_Red_Viper wrote: Nah i don't have any rights to use css, waiting for an admin to "submit" it. Usually pandemona posts these but there was no thread rdy so i did it.
On May 09 2018 19:02 deacon.frost wrote: Why don't you take the inner 3rd Cure? WHY?"!?!?!?!? WHY?!@?!??!
You dont want to fly your third from your main
Well, he almost lost, not sure if it was luck or soO being sloppy.
Edit> I meant after he was flooded by roaches, he wasn't mining, he lost almost all SCVs in the process, he could have safely flew there(or watever is the correct form of fly)
soO is like a player with superb mechanics who manages to get an absurd economy and subsequent army, but has no idea what to do with it other than A1'ing into the opponent over and over
I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
It's not the main issue, the stackability is thje problem. Imagine P throwing 10 storms over each other.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Seriously, he lost literally dozens of infestors, corrs, BLs throughout the game without making the slighest effort to not park them stacked in the most obvious positions.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Seriously, he lost literally dozens of infestors, corrs, BLs throughout the game without making the slighest effort to not park them stacked in the most obvious positions.
Also PB's good.
Because they are air units and they naturally clump. I see terran's clump their vikings all the time against para bomb, but you have time to react after the damage starts because they don't stack. Remember them having to make it not stack because terran's couldn't split their vikings?
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Still applies. The damage / range / cost ratio of the missile is god awful, literally the only situation in which it is good is if the opponent stacks his units hard.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Seriously, he lost literally dozens of infestors, corrs, BLs throughout the game without making the slighest effort to not park them stacked in the most obvious positions.
Also PB's good.
I don’t think anyone is arguing that soO played well, doesn’t mean the ability is fair though.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Remember when PB stacked? Those were the times
Yeah and I'm inclined to find the pre-split advices from Lyyna and why the hell Blizzard made it to unstack when all that needs to be done is to pre-split? Weird, weird, weird.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Seriously, he lost literally dozens of infestors, corrs, BLs throughout the game without making the slighest effort to not park them stacked in the most obvious positions.
Also PB's good.
Because they are air units and they naturally clump. I see terran's clump their vikings all the time against para bomb, but you have time to react after the damage starts because they don't stack. Remember them having to make it not stack because terran's couldn't split their vikings?
Come on, you can't justify his terrible control in that game by "naturally clump".He literally kept them stacked at all time, parked next to the terran's bases, or while A moving into him, without the slighest attempt at splitting.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Still applies. The damage / range / cost ratio of the missile is god awful, literally the only situation in which it is good is if the opponent stacks his units hard.
So the reason why every Terran goes mass ravena ia because they all hope progamers forcefuly stack their units :D?
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Seriously, he lost literally dozens of infestors, corrs, BLs throughout the game without making the slighest effort to not park them stacked in the most obvious positions.
Also PB's good.
I don’t think anyone is arguing that soO played well, doesn’t mean the ability is fair though.
Oh the ability is still stupid. Just saying it isn't as impossible to counter as some people make it be.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
The game was over when he failed two push with broodlord and no support, ravens just allowed him to play some extra times
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Still applies. The damage / range / cost ratio of the missile is god awful, literally the only situation in which it is good is if the opponent stacks his units hard.
So the reason why every Terran goes mass ravena ia because they all hope progamers forcefuly stack their units :D?
Seems to work well enough against some people, eh.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Remember when PB stacked? Those were the times
Yeah and I'm inclined to find the pre-split advices from Lyyna and why the hell Blizzard made it to unstack when all that needs to be done is to pre-split? Weird, weird, weird.
Yeah, it's quite strange that he seems to forget the time when terran's couldn't split their vikings so they had to change para bomb, but is all for telling zergs they need to git gud at splitting air units (that are much slower then vikings)
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Remember when PB stacked? Those were the times
Yeah and I'm inclined to find the pre-split advices from Lyyna and why the hell Blizzard made it to unstack when all that needs to be done is to pre-split? Weird, weird, weird.
Yeah, it's quite strange that he seems to forget the time when terran's couldn't split their vikings so they had to change para bomb, but is all for telling zergs they need to git gud at splitting air units (that are much slower then vikings)
Right, the change to PB was definitely because vikings couldn't be split. definitely not because it would stack, and thus you could just make 10 vipers and just triple PB any viking group coming in sight.
Hilarious considering every single zerg that is posting here now was "hurr durr terran l2split lol"
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Remember when PB stacked? Those were the times
Yeah and I'm inclined to find the pre-split advices from Lyyna and why the hell Blizzard made it to unstack when all that needs to be done is to pre-split? Weird, weird, weird.
Yeah, it's quite strange that he seems to forget the time when terran's couldn't split their vikings so they had to change para bomb, but is all for telling zergs they need to git gud at splitting air units (that are much slower then vikings)
viking can also just land to dodge although that might be bad if its a big fight.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Seriously, he lost literally dozens of infestors, corrs, BLs throughout the game without making the slighest effort to not park them stacked in the most obvious positions.
Also PB's good.
Because they are air units and they naturally clump. I see terran's clump their vikings all the time against para bomb, but you have time to react after the damage starts because they don't stack. Remember them having to make it not stack because terran's couldn't split their vikings?
Come on, you can't justify his terrible control in that game by "naturally clump".He literally kept them stacked at all time, parked next to the terran's bases, or while A moving into him, without the slighest attempt at splitting.
I didn't say his control wasn't terrible. I'm saying that you can't tell zergs to "just split like terrans always do" when parasitic bomb was changed because terrans couldn't split their vikings.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Seriously, he lost literally dozens of infestors, corrs, BLs throughout the game without making the slighest effort to not park them stacked in the most obvious positions.
Also PB's good.
Because they are air units and they naturally clump. I see terran's clump their vikings all the time against para bomb, but you have time to react after the damage starts because they don't stack. Remember them having to make it not stack because terran's couldn't split their vikings?
Come on, you can't justify his terrible control in that game by "naturally clump".He literally kept them stacked at all time, parked next to the terran's bases, or while A moving into him, without the slighest attempt at splitting.
I didn't say his control wasn't terrible. I'm saying that you can't tell zergs to "just split like terrans always do" when parasitic bomb was changed because terrans couldn't split their vikings.
It wasn't changed because terran wouldn't split, it was changed because it wasn't possible to split against it, since you could just stack it and get 100 dps .. IN A MOVING AREA FOLLOWING AN UNIT.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Remember when PB stacked? Those were the times
Yeah and I'm inclined to find the pre-split advices from Lyyna and why the hell Blizzard made it to unstack when all that needs to be done is to pre-split? Weird, weird, weird.
Yeah, it's quite strange that he seems to forget the time when terran's couldn't split their vikings so they had to change para bomb, but is all for telling zergs they need to git gud at splitting air units (that are much slower then vikings)
Right, the change to PB was definitely because vikings couldn't be split. definitely not because it would stack, and thus you could just make 10 vipers and just triple PB any viking group coming in sight.
Hilarious considering every single zerg that is posting here now was "hurr durr terran l2split lol"
Oh, but you cannot do that to broods? C'mon, re-read what you just wrote
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Remember when PB stacked? Those were the times
Yeah and I'm inclined to find the pre-split advices from Lyyna and why the hell Blizzard made it to unstack when all that needs to be done is to pre-split? Weird, weird, weird.
Yeah, it's quite strange that he seems to forget the time when terran's couldn't split their vikings so they had to change para bomb, but is all for telling zergs they need to git gud at splitting air units (that are much slower then vikings)
Right, the change to PB was definitely because vikings couldn't be split. definitely not because it would stack, and thus you could just make 10 vipers and just triple PB any viking group coming in sight.
Hilarious considering every single zerg that is posting here now was "hurr durr terran l2split lol"
rofl, that's the whole fucking point dude. It was a problem because you could stack parabomb. That's exactly what the problem is with the missle. I could take your second sentence and sub raven and missile, for viper and para bomb. It would talk about the exact same sort of problem. I'm not saying the previous para bomb was good, it wasn't. I'm trying to get you to see that your standpoint is ridiculously hypocritical.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Remember when PB stacked? Those were the times
Yeah and I'm inclined to find the pre-split advices from Lyyna and why the hell Blizzard made it to unstack when all that needs to be done is to pre-split? Weird, weird, weird.
Yeah, it's quite strange that he seems to forget the time when terran's couldn't split their vikings so they had to change para bomb, but is all for telling zergs they need to git gud at splitting air units (that are much slower then vikings)
Right, the change to PB was definitely because vikings couldn't be split. definitely not because it would stack, and thus you could just make 10 vipers and just triple PB any viking group coming in sight.
Hilarious considering every single zerg that is posting here now was "hurr durr terran l2split lol"
Oh, but you cannot do that to broods? C'mon, re-read what you just wrote
What exactly prevent you from pre-splitting your broods before the fight ?
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Remember when PB stacked? Those were the times
Yeah and I'm inclined to find the pre-split advices from Lyyna and why the hell Blizzard made it to unstack when all that needs to be done is to pre-split? Weird, weird, weird.
Yeah, it's quite strange that he seems to forget the time when terran's couldn't split their vikings so they had to change para bomb, but is all for telling zergs they need to git gud at splitting air units (that are much slower then vikings)
Right, the change to PB was definitely because vikings couldn't be split. definitely not because it would stack, and thus you could just make 10 vipers and just triple PB any viking group coming in sight.
Hilarious considering every single zerg that is posting here now was "hurr durr terran l2split lol"
Oh, but you cannot do that to broods? C'mon, re-read what you just wrote
What exactly prevent you from pre-splitting your broods before the fight ?
Unlike PB, missiles don't follow your units.
sure, it explodes right away. And sure, broodlords are so fast they can escape the bomb!!! Hear hear!
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Seriously, he lost literally dozens of infestors, corrs, BLs throughout the game without making the slighest effort to not park them stacked in the most obvious positions.
Also PB's good.
Because they are air units and they naturally clump. I see terran's clump their vikings all the time against para bomb, but you have time to react after the damage starts because they don't stack. Remember them having to make it not stack because terran's couldn't split their vikings?
Come on, you can't justify his terrible control in that game by "naturally clump".He literally kept them stacked at all time, parked next to the terran's bases, or while A moving into him, without the slighest attempt at splitting.
I didn't say his control wasn't terrible. I'm saying that you can't tell zergs to "just split like terrans always do" when parasitic bomb was changed because terrans couldn't split their vikings.
It wasn't changed because terran wouldn't split, it was changed because it wasn't possible to split against it, since you could just stack it and get 100 dps .. IN A MOVING AREA FOLLOWING AN UNIT.
Lol, and you have time to split after 10 missiles get put on your army? lol, it's the same thing dude.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Remember when PB stacked? Those were the times
Yeah and I'm inclined to find the pre-split advices from Lyyna and why the hell Blizzard made it to unstack when all that needs to be done is to pre-split? Weird, weird, weird.
Yeah, it's quite strange that he seems to forget the time when terran's couldn't split their vikings so they had to change para bomb, but is all for telling zergs they need to git gud at splitting air units (that are much slower then vikings)
Right, the change to PB was definitely because vikings couldn't be split. definitely not because it would stack, and thus you could just make 10 vipers and just triple PB any viking group coming in sight.
Hilarious considering every single zerg that is posting here now was "hurr durr terran l2split lol"
rofl, that's the whole fucking point dude. It was a problem because you could stack parabomb. That's exactly what the problem is with the missle. I could take your second sentence and sub raven and missile, for viper and para bomb. It would talk about the exact same sort of problem. I'm not saying the previous para bomb was good, it wasn't. I'm trying to get you to see that your standpoint is ridiculously hypocritical.
How is my viewpont hypocritical ?
Again, i admitted on a previous page that the ability is stupid. What i'm saying, again, is that it is far from uncounterable, and that such a game can hardly be used as a case against it, because it was pretty much the worse demonstration possible of "how to play against missile"
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Remember when PB stacked? Those were the times
Yeah and I'm inclined to find the pre-split advices from Lyyna and why the hell Blizzard made it to unstack when all that needs to be done is to pre-split? Weird, weird, weird.
Yeah, it's quite strange that he seems to forget the time when terran's couldn't split their vikings so they had to change para bomb, but is all for telling zergs they need to git gud at splitting air units (that are much slower then vikings)
Right, the change to PB was definitely because vikings couldn't be split. definitely not because it would stack, and thus you could just make 10 vipers and just triple PB any viking group coming in sight.
Hilarious considering every single zerg that is posting here now was "hurr durr terran l2split lol"
Oh, but you cannot do that to broods? C'mon, re-read what you just wrote
What exactly prevent you from pre-splitting your broods before the fight ?
Unlike PB, missiles don't follow your units.
what exactly prevented pre-splitting vikings? yeah, they don't follow your units because all of their damage is upfront. Their damage is done faster then para bomb.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Seriously, he lost literally dozens of infestors, corrs, BLs throughout the game without making the slighest effort to not park them stacked in the most obvious positions.
Also PB's good.
Because they are air units and they naturally clump. I see terran's clump their vikings all the time against para bomb, but you have time to react after the damage starts because they don't stack. Remember them having to make it not stack because terran's couldn't split their vikings?
Come on, you can't justify his terrible control in that game by "naturally clump".He literally kept them stacked at all time, parked next to the terran's bases, or while A moving into him, without the slighest attempt at splitting.
I didn't say his control wasn't terrible. I'm saying that you can't tell zergs to "just split like terrans always do" when parasitic bomb was changed because terrans couldn't split their vikings.
It wasn't changed because terran wouldn't split, it was changed because it wasn't possible to split against it, since you could just stack it and get 100 dps .. IN A MOVING AREA FOLLOWING AN UNIT.
Lol, and you have time to split after 10 missiles get put on your army? lol, it's the same thing dude.
Because missile does a lot less damage on a much smaller area than stacking PB.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Remember when PB stacked? Those were the times
Yeah and I'm inclined to find the pre-split advices from Lyyna and why the hell Blizzard made it to unstack when all that needs to be done is to pre-split? Weird, weird, weird.
Yeah, it's quite strange that he seems to forget the time when terran's couldn't split their vikings so they had to change para bomb, but is all for telling zergs they need to git gud at splitting air units (that are much slower then vikings)
Right, the change to PB was definitely because vikings couldn't be split. definitely not because it would stack, and thus you could just make 10 vipers and just triple PB any viking group coming in sight.
Hilarious considering every single zerg that is posting here now was "hurr durr terran l2split lol"
Oh, but you cannot do that to broods? C'mon, re-read what you just wrote
What exactly prevent you from pre-splitting your broods before the fight ?
Unlike PB, missiles don't follow your units.
what exactly prevented pre-splitting vikings? yeah, they don't follow your units because all of their damage is upfront. Their damage is done faster then para bomb.
There was a lot of presplitting, but it would not matter because with 5+ vipers you could essentially parabomb an entire screen worth of space, then drain your buildings and do it again within 15 seconds
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Remember when PB stacked? Those were the times
Yeah and I'm inclined to find the pre-split advices from Lyyna and why the hell Blizzard made it to unstack when all that needs to be done is to pre-split? Weird, weird, weird.
Yeah, it's quite strange that he seems to forget the time when terran's couldn't split their vikings so they had to change para bomb, but is all for telling zergs they need to git gud at splitting air units (that are much slower then vikings)
Right, the change to PB was definitely because vikings couldn't be split. definitely not because it would stack, and thus you could just make 10 vipers and just triple PB any viking group coming in sight.
Hilarious considering every single zerg that is posting here now was "hurr durr terran l2split lol"
rofl, that's the whole fucking point dude. It was a problem because you could stack parabomb. That's exactly what the problem is with the missle. I could take your second sentence and sub raven and missile, for viper and para bomb. It would talk about the exact same sort of problem. I'm not saying the previous para bomb was good, it wasn't. I'm trying to get you to see that your standpoint is ridiculously hypocritical.
How is my viewpont hypocritical ?
Again, i admitted on a previous page that the ability is stupid. What i'm saying, again, is that it is far from uncounterable, and that such a game can hardly be used as a case against it, because it was pretty much the worse demonstration possible of "how to play against missile"
I've never said that game was a good example. The issue I had was with "The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...". When there's a perfectly good example of terran players being unable to split effectively against a similar spell used against their air units.
On May 09 2018 19:42 Lyyna wrote: [quote] The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Remember when PB stacked? Those were the times
Yeah and I'm inclined to find the pre-split advices from Lyyna and why the hell Blizzard made it to unstack when all that needs to be done is to pre-split? Weird, weird, weird.
Yeah, it's quite strange that he seems to forget the time when terran's couldn't split their vikings so they had to change para bomb, but is all for telling zergs they need to git gud at splitting air units (that are much slower then vikings)
Right, the change to PB was definitely because vikings couldn't be split. definitely not because it would stack, and thus you could just make 10 vipers and just triple PB any viking group coming in sight.
Hilarious considering every single zerg that is posting here now was "hurr durr terran l2split lol"
Oh, but you cannot do that to broods? C'mon, re-read what you just wrote
What exactly prevent you from pre-splitting your broods before the fight ?
Unlike PB, missiles don't follow your units.
what exactly prevented pre-splitting vikings? yeah, they don't follow your units because all of their damage is upfront. Their damage is done faster then para bomb.
There was a lot of presplitting, but it would not matter because with 5+ vipers you could essentially parabomb an entire screen worth of space.
On May 09 2018 19:49 DBooN wrote: Zerg players are just less talented
Stop acting like he lost because of the mass raven, he tried BL push without support and threw everything
This loss was about that, but that doesn't mean it didn't show us what's wrong with the Netherland bomb(I hope they still play in orange )
Well, Raven is a problem but it would have been really bad for this game if he had won despite these terrible BL push.
It just showed that terran cant punish a zerg t3 without making 50 ravens
That was because of the map though. If you get enough drones and enough bases you generally don't care, but Terran care because he cannot replenish so fast. I love ZvT(or PvT) on huge maps. Zerg can remax on anything as long as your greed goes through and, well, in case of Protoss you have to re-warp, but boy...
On May 09 2018 19:43 deacon.frost wrote: [quote] Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Remember when PB stacked? Those were the times
Yeah and I'm inclined to find the pre-split advices from Lyyna and why the hell Blizzard made it to unstack when all that needs to be done is to pre-split? Weird, weird, weird.
Yeah, it's quite strange that he seems to forget the time when terran's couldn't split their vikings so they had to change para bomb, but is all for telling zergs they need to git gud at splitting air units (that are much slower then vikings)
Right, the change to PB was definitely because vikings couldn't be split. definitely not because it would stack, and thus you could just make 10 vipers and just triple PB any viking group coming in sight.
Hilarious considering every single zerg that is posting here now was "hurr durr terran l2split lol"
Oh, but you cannot do that to broods? C'mon, re-read what you just wrote
What exactly prevent you from pre-splitting your broods before the fight ?
Unlike PB, missiles don't follow your units.
what exactly prevented pre-splitting vikings? yeah, they don't follow your units because all of their damage is upfront. Their damage is done faster then para bomb.
There was a lot of presplitting, but it would not matter because with 5+ vipers you could essentially parabomb an entire screen worth of space.
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Seriously, he lost literally dozens of infestors, corrs, BLs throughout the game without making the slighest effort to not park them stacked in the most obvious positions.
Also PB's good.
Because they are air units and they naturally clump. I see terran's clump their vikings all the time against para bomb, but you have time to react after the damage starts because they don't stack. Remember them having to make it not stack because terran's couldn't split their vikings?
Come on, you can't justify his terrible control in that game by "naturally clump".He literally kept them stacked at all time, parked next to the terran's bases, or while A moving into him, without the slighest attempt at splitting.
I didn't say his control wasn't terrible. I'm saying that you can't tell zergs to "just split like terrans always do" when parasitic bomb was changed because terrans couldn't split their vikings.
It wasn't changed because terran wouldn't split, it was changed because it wasn't possible to split against it, since you could just stack it and get 100 dps .. IN A MOVING AREA FOLLOWING AN UNIT.
Lol, and you have time to split after 10 missiles get put on your army? lol, it's the same thing dude.
Because missile does a lot less damage on a much smaller area than stacking PB.
"a lot less damage" deletes units with twice the health of a viking in 1 second. You can also only cast 1 para bomb per viper, and it doesn't damage ground units.
Yeah and I'm inclined to find the pre-split advices from Lyyna and why the hell Blizzard made it to unstack when all that needs to be done is to pre-split? Weird, weird, weird.
Yeah, it's quite strange that he seems to forget the time when terran's couldn't split their vikings so they had to change para bomb, but is all for telling zergs they need to git gud at splitting air units (that are much slower then vikings)
Right, the change to PB was definitely because vikings couldn't be split. definitely not because it would stack, and thus you could just make 10 vipers and just triple PB any viking group coming in sight.
Hilarious considering every single zerg that is posting here now was "hurr durr terran l2split lol"
Oh, but you cannot do that to broods? C'mon, re-read what you just wrote
What exactly prevent you from pre-splitting your broods before the fight ?
Unlike PB, missiles don't follow your units.
what exactly prevented pre-splitting vikings? yeah, they don't follow your units because all of their damage is upfront. Their damage is done faster then para bomb.
There was a lot of presplitting, but it would not matter because with 5+ vipers you could essentially parabomb an entire screen worth of space.
And you can't missile an entire screen?
You can't do it again within 30 seconds.
Yeah, you can do it much faster.
Edit> I don't know if you noticed, but we're talking about mass raven. If someone loses to 6 ravens casting several missiles, yeah, that's bad, but we saw just what, 20+ ravens?
On May 09 2018 20:02 Morbidius wrote: Blizzard really fucked up this matchup since LotV. Every single trend has been unenjoyable for players and spectators.
Personally, I enjoy watching PvZ more lately than TvZ. TvZ used to be the most entertaining matchup. Just my opinion.
On May 09 2018 20:14 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Barely even 32 pro players left in Korea, basicly everone qualifies.
Players like Zanster, Impact and Sortoff really shouldn't be in GSL
impact would randomly qualify into a GSL back in 2015 and 2014 for a season but would get booped in the round of 32 but yeah in 2014 and 2015 zanster and sortoff would not have made it and when a none korean did make it they were really really on top of their game.
On May 09 2018 20:14 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Barely even 32 pro players left in Korea, basicly everone qualifies.
Players like Zanster, Impact and Sortoff really shouldn't be in GSL
Impact is actually legit good right now. Its a shame he does not show that today, and basically ever, in the GSL. Maybe he has some kind of mental problem when playing offline. Still expect him to beat soO though, maybe even Cure to advance
btw, Cure was never close to catching up. Somehow the casters missed the extra base and the higher worker count for TY after the army supply evened out.
Great recovery by soO ! But his comments are just dumb. He was always great with Roaches and Roach/Ravager, but was abysmal with super late game even before Ghost Raven, so he really should not blame balance for his long term personal struggles against Terran
I wish they'd do something to the format to counteract the rematch curse. If the 2nd place match is a rematch, they should turn it into a best of 5 (or even best of 7) starting with the previous score. So for example, the Cure soO rematch would have started out with the score of 2-1 with soO winning 3-2.
On May 09 2018 22:19 MarianoSC2 wrote: Great recovery by soO ! But his comments are just dumb. He was always great with Roaches and Roach/Ravager, but was abysmal with super late game even before Ghost Raven, so he really should not blame balance for his long term personal struggles against Terran
The man's had a tough day, he deserves to whine a bit.
I love how people got so mad that KeeN beat Solar and Cure beat soO in their first encounter, blaming terran imba and stuff like that, but when they got wrecked in the rematches when it actually matters we don't hear much.
On May 09 2018 22:30 Poopi wrote: I love how people got so mad that KeeN beat Solar and Cure beat soO in their first encounter, blaming terran imba and stuff like that, but then they got wrecked in the rematches when it actually matters we don't hear much.
But when you legit complain about Protoss ( according to blizzard community update ) you get a ban
On May 09 2018 22:30 Poopi wrote: I love how people got so mad that KeeN beat Solar and Cure beat soO in their first encounter, blaming terran imba and stuff like that, but then they got wrecked in the rematches when it actually matters we don't hear much.
But when you legit complain about Protoss ( according to blizzard community update ) you get a ban
I must have missed where in the Community Feedback Update it said all complaints were legitimate and presented in an acceptable manner.
On May 09 2018 22:30 Poopi wrote: I love how people got so mad that KeeN beat Solar and Cure beat soO in their first encounter, blaming terran imba and stuff like that, but then they got wrecked in the rematches when it actually matters we don't hear much.
But when you legit complain about Protoss ( according to blizzard community update ) you get a ban
If you have any concerns or criticisms about moderation, please take it to Website Feedback. ^^
On May 09 2018 19:40 theunabletable wrote: I don't really understand why seeker missiles are instant now? It just seems really unreasonable to react, and the speed you have to split at for air units which stack, and in flat air with no obstacles forcing the opponent in a certain spot (like being able to play around chokes against banelings or something), is just really, really crazy.
I'm sure there's counterplay, but as someone who hasn't played for a bit, it just looks gross and obnoxious.
The counterplay is to presplit your units, like terrans have been doing since WoL against storm, fungal, PB, archons, etc...
I always find it odd when zerg always keep their corrs bunched in any situation, eating 5 storms in a row, 8 archons shots, a vortex, 17 thors volleys, 3 seeker missiles, and a nuke, then yell "imba".
Yeah, but you cannot eat 5 storms at the same time, you can eat 5 disco balls of doom.
Remember when PB stacked? Those were the times
Yeah and I'm inclined to find the pre-split advices from Lyyna and why the hell Blizzard made it to unstack when all that needs to be done is to pre-split? Weird, weird, weird.
Yeah, it's quite strange that he seems to forget the time when terran's couldn't split their vikings so they had to change para bomb, but is all for telling zergs they need to git gud at splitting air units (that are much slower then vikings)
Right, the change to PB was definitely because vikings couldn't be split. definitely not because it would stack, and thus you could just make 10 vipers and just triple PB any viking group coming in sight.
Hilarious considering every single zerg that is posting here now was "hurr durr terran l2split lol"
rofl, that's the whole fucking point dude. It was a problem because you could stack parabomb. That's exactly what the problem is with the missle. I could take your second sentence and sub raven and missile, for viper and para bomb. It would talk about the exact same sort of problem. I'm not saying the previous para bomb was good, it wasn't. I'm trying to get you to see that your standpoint is ridiculously hypocritical.
PB was much worse when it had 60 stackable damage. 2 bombs perfectly stacked did the same damage as 1 bomb does now for twice the energy. Everyone viewed the change as a buff and that's why the 1 second delay had to be introduced.
On May 09 2018 22:30 Poopi wrote: I love how people got so mad that KeeN beat Solar and Cure beat soO in their first encounter, blaming terran imba and stuff like that, but when they got wrecked in the rematches when it actually matters we don't hear much.
That's pure manipulation of facts buddy. Ppl gets mad about how they lose : being destroyed by a single spammable capacity. Keep whining on your stream ! (On a marauders buff, the irony...)
On May 09 2018 22:30 Poopi wrote: I love how people got so mad that KeeN beat Solar and Cure beat soO in their first encounter, blaming terran imba and stuff like that, but when they got wrecked in the rematches when it actually matters we don't hear much.
That's pure manipulation of facts buddy. Ppl gets mad about how they lose : being destroyed by a single spammable capacity. Keep whining on your stream ! (On a marauders buff, the irony...)
The fuck are you talking about? I didn't stream for ages and I don't talk on my stream. You mistake me for someone else.
great group, i enjoyed almost all the games. Im super sad by Impact and Cure being eliminated... they played better than expected and could have made it causing a big upset. props to both of them
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