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On April 21 2018 15:08 aish wrote: is this another pvsnp "defend terran at all costs" thread?
Please, tell me what is so imbalanced about Hellions, Hellbats, or Cyclones that Gumiho suddenly discovered today.
I'll wait.
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On April 21 2018 15:08 aish wrote: is this another pvsnp "defend terran at all costs" thread? He has 2 states: shit on foreigners or defend Terran, if possible do both at the same time by saying that foreigners are trash at Terran, the only race that requires skill.
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On April 21 2018 15:08 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 15:04 Durnuu wrote:On April 21 2018 15:00 Fango wrote: Idk why artosis always says this about gumiho's mech. Iirc zergs didn't even try swarmhost when he won GSL. Once they actually realised swarmhost work mech stopped working in Korea. Wtf, no it didn't stop working I remember at the time (gsl season 3 until the big patch) I made a comment every time there was mech vs swarm host game and every time the Zerg won. In super tournament 2 mech was the meta for terran and didn't win a single map. Gumiho even lost to soO (who he usually roasted) once he started swarmhosting. Edit: to clarify, mech still won matches, just not when the Zergs realised swarmhosts countered it so hard.
Yeah agreed. Mech was pretty dead until swarmhosts got nerfed with patch 4.0.
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Whining about Ravens is one thing. Whining about this standard-as-sliced-bread shit? Seriously?
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On April 21 2018 15:09 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 15:08 aish wrote: is this another pvsnp "defend terran at all costs" thread? Please, tell me what is so imbalanced about Hellions, Hellbats, or Cyclones that Gumiho suddenly discovered today. I'll wait. Whining about Ravens is one thing. Whining about this standard-as-sliced-bread shit? Seriously? When Terrans were losing 20+ workers to Adepts you guys cried imba for weeks until they got nerfed against only Terran. A mech push kills 20+ workers and it's perfectly fine. Seems fair.
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On April 21 2018 15:09 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 15:08 aish wrote: is this another pvsnp "defend terran at all costs" thread? He has 2 states: shit on foreigners or defend Terran, if possible do both at the same time by saying that foreigners are trash at Terran, the only race that requires skill. I mean trying to argue that terran is imba during a match between a Korean terran champ and a foreigner Zerg is a tad pointless.
Imagine dark or solar against foreign terrans, they would make lings and roaches look broken.
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On April 21 2018 15:09 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 15:08 aish wrote: is this another pvsnp "defend terran at all costs" thread? He has 2 states: shit on foreigners or defend Terran, if possible do both at the same time by saying that foreigners are trash at Terran, the only race that requires skill.
You forgot worshipping avilo as the mech hokage in your caricature.
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On April 21 2018 15:08 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 15:04 Durnuu wrote:On April 21 2018 15:00 Fango wrote: Idk why artosis always says this about gumiho's mech. Iirc zergs didn't even try swarmhost when he won GSL. Once they actually realised swarmhost work mech stopped working in Korea. Wtf, no it didn't stop working I remember at the time (gsl season 3 until the big patch) I made a comment every time there was mech vs swarm host game and every time the Zerg won. In super tournament 2 mech was the meta for terran and didn't win a single map. Gumiho even lost to soO (who he usually roasted) once he started swarmhosting. Edit: to clarify, mech still won matches, just not when the Zergs realised swarmhosts countered it so hard. Gumiho was lucky he won GSL before they figured it out. I can nitpick you as many games where swarm host lost as you can nitpick ones where they won. Also "figuring out SH" took a lot longer than just after GSL season 2. Mech was still dominant in GSL S3 (just look at INnoVation vs Dark)
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Scarlett has fallen back on the always reliable defense of building a ton of queens.
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Lets hope she knows it's not mech
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On April 21 2018 15:12 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 15:08 Fango wrote:On April 21 2018 15:04 Durnuu wrote:On April 21 2018 15:00 Fango wrote: Idk why artosis always says this about gumiho's mech. Iirc zergs didn't even try swarmhost when he won GSL. Once they actually realised swarmhost work mech stopped working in Korea. Wtf, no it didn't stop working I remember at the time (gsl season 3 until the big patch) I made a comment every time there was mech vs swarm host game and every time the Zerg won. In super tournament 2 mech was the meta for terran and didn't win a single map. Gumiho even lost to soO (who he usually roasted) once he started swarmhosting. Edit: to clarify, mech still won matches, just not when the Zergs realised swarmhosts countered it so hard. Gumiho was lucky he won GSL before they figured it out. I can nitpick you as many games where swarm host lost as you can nitpick ones where they won. Go ahead. I'm waiting.
Edit: has to be high level games though
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On April 21 2018 15:10 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 15:09 pvsnp wrote:On April 21 2018 15:08 aish wrote: is this another pvsnp "defend terran at all costs" thread? Please, tell me what is so imbalanced about Hellions, Hellbats, or Cyclones that Gumiho suddenly discovered today. I'll wait. Whining about Ravens is one thing. Whining about this standard-as-sliced-bread shit? Seriously? When Terrans were losing 20+ workers to Adepts you guys cried imba for weeks until they got nerfed against only Terran. A mech push kills 20+ workers and it's perfectly fine. Seems fair.
And every single Zerg didn't utter a word of whine about Adepts killing drones, amirite?
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On April 21 2018 15:12 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 15:12 Durnuu wrote:On April 21 2018 15:08 Fango wrote:On April 21 2018 15:04 Durnuu wrote:On April 21 2018 15:00 Fango wrote: Idk why artosis always says this about gumiho's mech. Iirc zergs didn't even try swarmhost when he won GSL. Once they actually realised swarmhost work mech stopped working in Korea. Wtf, no it didn't stop working I remember at the time (gsl season 3 until the big patch) I made a comment every time there was mech vs swarm host game and every time the Zerg won. In super tournament 2 mech was the meta for terran and didn't win a single map. Gumiho even lost to soO (who he usually roasted) once he started swarmhosting. Edit: to clarify, mech still won matches, just not when the Zergs realised swarmhosts countered it so hard. Gumiho was lucky he won GSL before they figured it out. I can nitpick you as many games where swarm host lost as you can nitpick ones where they won. Go ahead. I'm waiting. Edit: has to be high level games though Yeah I got that Gonna take me a bit to go through the VODs
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On April 21 2018 15:13 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 15:10 Solar424 wrote:On April 21 2018 15:09 pvsnp wrote:On April 21 2018 15:08 aish wrote: is this another pvsnp "defend terran at all costs" thread? Please, tell me what is so imbalanced about Hellions, Hellbats, or Cyclones that Gumiho suddenly discovered today. I'll wait. Whining about Ravens is one thing. Whining about this standard-as-sliced-bread shit? Seriously? When Terrans were losing 20+ workers to Adepts you guys cried imba for weeks until they got nerfed against only Terran. A mech push kills 20+ workers and it's perfectly fine. Seems fair. And every single Zerg didn't utter a word of whine about Adepts killing drones, amirite? And yet Blizzard nerfed Adepts so that they still 2-shot Drones, but not SCV's.
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I hope she doesn't overcommit on the mutas.
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On April 21 2018 15:14 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 15:13 pvsnp wrote:On April 21 2018 15:10 Solar424 wrote:On April 21 2018 15:09 pvsnp wrote:On April 21 2018 15:08 aish wrote: is this another pvsnp "defend terran at all costs" thread? Please, tell me what is so imbalanced about Hellions, Hellbats, or Cyclones that Gumiho suddenly discovered today. I'll wait. Whining about Ravens is one thing. Whining about this standard-as-sliced-bread shit? Seriously? When Terrans were losing 20+ workers to Adepts you guys cried imba for weeks until they got nerfed against only Terran. A mech push kills 20+ workers and it's perfectly fine. Seems fair. And every single Zerg didn't utter a word of whine about Adepts killing drones, amirite? And yet Blizzard nerfed Adepts so that they still 2-shot Drones, but not SCV's.
Oh are you talking about 2016? I was thinking of the Adept-whine of 2017 when they lost 10 health.
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Games like these remind me of how much I miss HotS, before Blizzard decided that harassment was more entertaining than macro.
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Gumiho playing bio, I knew it won't be as good as his mech. Still possibly enough.
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