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[WCS] 2018 Austin - NA Challenger League

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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-14 18:13:17
April 14 2018 18:02 GMT
#1
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WHERE TO WATCH
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WHEN TO WATCH

Group Stage:
14 April 2018 11:00 PDT
15 April 2018 11:00 PDT
21 April 2018 11:00 PDT
28 April 2018 11:00 PDT
Playoffs: 13 May 2018 11:00 PDT




GROUP STAGE
Group A: (P)Neeb (Z)JonSnow (T)Future (T)Epic
Group B: (Z)Scarlett (T)Semper (Z)Silky (Z)Kane
Group C: (T)MaSa (Z)Cicada (Z)PandaBearMe (Z)starkiller
Group D: (Z)NoRegreT (P)puCK (T)Raze (Z)Bioice
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TBD
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 14 2018 18:08 GMT
#2
TLPD got the wrong Future (and Cicada is spelled wrong).
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 14 2018 18:13 GMT
#3
On April 15 2018 03:08 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
TLPD got the wrong Future (and Cicada is spelled wrong).

No idea what you're talking about, get this misinformation outta here
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 14 2018 18:15 GMT
#4
On April 15 2018 03:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2018 03:08 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
TLPD got the wrong Future (and Cicada is spelled wrong).

No idea what you're talking about, get this misinformation outta here


The listed streams don't look too accurate either .
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
April 14 2018 18:16 GMT
#5
On April 15 2018 03:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2018 03:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On April 15 2018 03:08 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
TLPD got the wrong Future (and Cicada is spelled wrong).

No idea what you're talking about, get this misinformation outta here


The listed streams don't look too accurate either .

Fake news.
why even
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 14 2018 18:16 GMT
#6
On April 15 2018 03:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2018 03:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On April 15 2018 03:08 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
TLPD got the wrong Future (and Cicada is spelled wrong).

No idea what you're talking about, get this misinformation outta here


The listed streams don't look too accurate either .

No one looks at that, just look at the sidebar
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-14 18:51:43
April 14 2018 18:50 GMT
#7
I have no idea what Future was planning to do with that double praxy barracks that were floated after creating 3 reapers then lifting his barracks and sending one into the opponent's base and the other home before anything even really happened.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 14 2018 18:52 GMT
#8
Future vs Epic sound like something a 50 years old TV writer would made up for a one time episode featuring esport on CSI.

He would also write lines for a 20 years old guys like: "You never heard of Epic? He is the greatest bonjwa ever, he has the best APM micro and marine zerg rush control".
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
April 14 2018 19:00 GMT
#9
TvT has always been a praised mirror, but my god I hate it. This shit in particular.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 14 2018 19:35 GMT
#10
InControl is entertaining as always
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
April 14 2018 20:09 GMT
#11
On April 15 2018 04:00 Mozdk wrote:
TvT has always been a praised mirror, but my god I hate it. This shit in particular.



personally I find every matchup enjoyable to watch. Don't know why people always complain. especially about the mirrors.

@Topic:

gogo Future. Would be nice to see a Terran advance.
love esports - hate homophobia
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
April 14 2018 20:21 GMT
#12
On April 15 2018 04:00 Mozdk wrote:
TvT has always been a praised mirror, but my god I hate it. This shit in particular.

What happened? TvT played by Korean Terrans is pretty much always amazing, but I could see NA Terrans turning mech vs mech into a slow turtley game.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 14 2018 20:44 GMT
#13
On April 15 2018 04:00 Mozdk wrote:
TvT has always been a praised mirror, but my god I hate it. This shit in particular.

The GOMTvT era has been long gone
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
April 15 2018 18:23 GMT
#14
It would be nice if all players eligible to compete in WCS Circuit played under the same rules regarding Challenger.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
April 15 2018 18:36 GMT
#15
On April 16 2018 03:23 Boggyb wrote:
It would be nice if all players eligible to compete in WCS Circuit played under the same rules regarding Challenger.

Who are you referring to?
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 15 2018 18:38 GMT
#16
fun fact Kane was actually 7-3 against Scarlett before today
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
April 15 2018 18:42 GMT
#17
On April 16 2018 03:36 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 03:23 Boggyb wrote:
It would be nice if all players eligible to compete in WCS Circuit played under the same rules regarding Challenger.

Who are you referring to?

TRUE had to forfeit his spot in NA challenger while players like Scarlett and Elazer did not.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 15 2018 19:09 GMT
#18
On April 15 2018 05:21 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2018 04:00 Mozdk wrote:
TvT has always been a praised mirror, but my god I hate it. This shit in particular.

What happened? TvT played by Korean Terrans is pretty much always amazing, but I could see NA Terrans turning mech vs mech into a slow turtley game.


Uhh... Korean TvT involves exactly the same nonsense with cyclones and ravens as foreign TvT. Pure turtling à la avilo is not the norm of course, but neither is it the norm for the foreign scene.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 15 2018 19:13 GMT
#19
On April 16 2018 03:38 Shellshock wrote:
fun fact Kane was actually 7-3 against Scarlett before today

Peak Kane was a pretty frickin scary player.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 15 2018 19:28 GMT
#20
Silky need to go right now
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-15 19:37:02
April 15 2018 19:30 GMT
#21
On April 16 2018 04:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 03:38 Shellshock wrote:
fun fact Kane was actually 7-3 against Scarlett before today

Peak Kane was a pretty frickin scary player.


I don't remember his ZvZ being all that great tbh, so this is rather surprising to me. Flashes of brilliance in the other match-ups, but ZvZ not so much.

edit: ...yeah okay that's a way to lose a game. Going for fifteen +3 brood lords, and just losing to a bunch of unupgraded corruptors.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 15 2018 19:37 GMT
#22
that was just lol.
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
April 15 2018 19:59 GMT
#23
that was very efficient from scarlett :D
love esports - hate homophobia
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
April 15 2018 20:00 GMT
#24
sick scarlett still strong
NewEyes
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany113 Posts
April 15 2018 20:08 GMT
#25
I have to say Feardragon does a surprisingly well job at imitating the purity of the cards.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-15 20:14:33
April 15 2018 20:09 GMT
#26
Hive on 2 base, hum....
Well that work out, still look like kind of a strange build to me.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-15 20:21:13
April 15 2018 20:20 GMT
#27
On April 16 2018 05:09 Nakajin wrote:
Hive on 2 base, hum....
Well that work out, still look like kind of a strange build to me.


Fitzyhere used to go for 2-base hive every game. Admittedly this was with the 8 armor ultra, and the build was still bad.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 15 2018 20:33 GMT
#28
On April 16 2018 05:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 05:09 Nakajin wrote:
Hive on 2 base, hum....
Well that work out, still look like kind of a strange build to me.


Fitzyhere used to go for 2-base hive every game. Admittedly this was with the 8 armor ultra, and the build was still bad.


Scarlett also used to do a 2 bases BL build in zvz that was quite good in HOTS, but anyway this was suppose to be on three base I think since the third was sniped, but still going hive before hydra seems super risky to me, but maybe it's a genious call.
And the fact that I have never heard of Fitzyhere in my life don't exactly make me want to try it lol
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 21 2018 18:50 GMT
#29
Nice job Player Formerly Known As Voltz
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-21 20:27:05
April 21 2018 20:26 GMT
#30
And yet another victim falls to the dreaded rematch curse and gets knocked out 2-3 overall
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juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
April 22 2018 11:16 GMT
#31
Was any of this recommended?
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 13 2018 17:51 GMT
#32
Does Neeb drop a map? I say no.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
May 13 2018 18:05 GMT
#33
On May 14 2018 02:51 Boggyb wrote:
Does Neeb drop a map? I say no.


Think he drops 2. 1 puck, 1 scarlett
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
May 13 2018 18:08 GMT
#34
Anyone saw Masa play recently? What are the chances he just shows up and trashes everyone?
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-13 18:14:21
May 13 2018 18:13 GMT
#35
On May 14 2018 03:08 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Anyone saw Masa play recently? What are the chances he just shows up and trashes everyone?

Unless he's streamed, nobody has seen Masa recently. His chances of trashing everyone are zero even if Scarlett and Neeb are having a bad day. Neeb is at least 2 tiers above him and Scarlett is at least 1.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
May 13 2018 18:31 GMT
#36
the casters really trying hard to make the games look less one-sided than they truly are . Can't blame them, of course, they're doing their job.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
May 13 2018 18:36 GMT
#37
On May 14 2018 03:13 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 03:08 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Anyone saw Masa play recently? What are the chances he just shows up and trashes everyone?

Unless he's streamed, nobody has seen Masa recently. His chances of trashing everyone are zero even if Scarlett and Neeb are having a bad day. Neeb is at least 2 tiers above him and Scarlett is at least 1.


Well, Masa always had that strange vibe of seeming totally irrelevant and invisible and then he suddenly appeared and just totally recked players that were supposed to be 2 classes above him.
But I would be very surprised if he does that today, I haven't heard about Masa in ages
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 13 2018 18:36 GMT
#38
On May 14 2018 03:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
the casters really trying hard to make the games look less one-sided than they truly are . Can't blame them, of course, they're doing their job.

Honestly PandaBearMe looked like he was going to win game 2 up until he didn't.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 13 2018 18:40 GMT
#39
Using the overlord to ferry the queen to snipe the warp prism seemed like a good idea until he lost 4 queens to do it.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
May 13 2018 18:40 GMT
#40
On May 14 2018 03:36 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 03:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
the casters really trying hard to make the games look less one-sided than they truly are . Can't blame them, of course, they're doing their job.

Honestly PandaBearMe looked like he was going to win game 2 up until he didn't.

the attack looked doomed to fail to me but maybe he had more of a chance than I gave him credit for
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
May 13 2018 18:42 GMT
#41
yeah brutal 3-0, nothing to report
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
May 13 2018 18:44 GMT
#42
An expected bopping.
The next matches can be pretty close though
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
May 13 2018 18:46 GMT
#43
masa noregret will be the series of the day, i think
Year of MaxPax
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
May 13 2018 18:50 GMT
#44
On May 14 2018 03:44 MarianoSC2 wrote:
An expected bopping.
The next matches can be pretty close though

I agree, the rest should be rather interesting
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 13 2018 19:08 GMT
#45
I'm not sure if puCK's splitting of his army is doing much though I guess it kept Semper at home for awhile.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 13 2018 19:12 GMT
#46
puCK with the manner nexus.
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
May 13 2018 19:13 GMT
#47
Nice recall, free out of jail card.
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-13 19:28:59
May 13 2018 19:28 GMT
#48
puCK really doesn't want to go stargate to deal with the liberators.

edit: and there he goes.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-13 19:46:25
May 13 2018 19:45 GMT
#49
I understand puCK thought he needed to do something to get back into the game, but man was that a bad idea. There was zero chance he was getting into the main.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
May 13 2018 19:50 GMT
#50
Is Semper playing a throw competition? If so then he is a master, each game he plays the throw is bigger and bigger lol
Well, good games at least, pretty close. Although Semper really should have won at least 2 out of that 3
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-13 20:01:45
May 13 2018 20:01 GMT
#51
Both of these players are infinitely better at SC2 than I ever will be, but I don't think either one of these guys knows how to "win" an SC2 game haha
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 13 2018 20:01 GMT
#52
Backwater
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33390 Posts
May 13 2018 20:04 GMT
#53
On May 14 2018 05:01 Bagration wrote:
Both of these players are infinitely better at SC2 than I ever will be, but I don't think either one of these guys knows how to "win" an SC2 game haha

When you're the best at playing 'not to lose,' you're Maru. When you're less good at playing not to lose, you're avilo.
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 13 2018 20:08 GMT
#54
puCK had absolutely no business winning that game.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
May 13 2018 20:08 GMT
#55
I'm feeling a bit uneasy.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-13 20:09:57
May 13 2018 20:09 GMT
#56
That game made me itchy.
On May 14 2018 05:08 Boggyb wrote:
puCK had absolutely no business winning that game.


To be fair, neither did Semper.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 13 2018 20:09 GMT
#57
On May 14 2018 05:08 Boggyb wrote:
puCK had absolutely no business winning that game.

Neither did Semper though
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Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-13 20:10:55
May 13 2018 20:10 GMT
#58
On May 14 2018 05:09 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 05:08 Boggyb wrote:
puCK had absolutely no business winning that game.

Neither did Semper though


Damnit sniped XD
(added the same phrase as an edit submitted 30s after your post)
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 13 2018 20:10 GMT
#59
On May 14 2018 05:09 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 05:08 Boggyb wrote:
puCK had absolutely no business winning that game.

Neither did Semper though

He did for the first 15 or so minutes then yeah, he gave that all up.
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
May 13 2018 20:13 GMT
#60
I don't know, it was a cool game, was on the edge-ish of my seat. And both players displayed pretty cool control at times (esp Semper with the splits)
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
May 13 2018 20:13 GMT
#61
The truth is I really enjoy NA matches

I hope my boss never finds out
Year of MaxPax
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
May 13 2018 20:13 GMT
#62
Feels like the winner of that series is a lamb about to go to slaughter.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-13 20:15:10
May 13 2018 20:14 GMT
#63
On May 14 2018 05:13 VengefulTree wrote:
I don't know, it was a cool game, was on the edge-ish of my seat. And both players displayed pretty cool control at times (esp Semper with the splits)

I feel like it is the kind of game you can only really appreciate if you don't care about who wins otherwise you just get irritated by all the misplays.
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
May 13 2018 20:32 GMT
#64
On May 14 2018 05:14 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 05:13 VengefulTree wrote:
I don't know, it was a cool game, was on the edge-ish of my seat. And both players displayed pretty cool control at times (esp Semper with the splits)

I feel like it is the kind of game you can only really appreciate if you don't care about who wins otherwise you just get irritated by all the misplays.


I get what you mean, but at the same time if you're emotionally invested in the game the back and forth foreigner baseball makes it a very intense experience No matter the lead, it can always be thrown
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 13 2018 20:33 GMT
#65
On May 14 2018 05:32 VengefulTree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 05:14 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 05:13 VengefulTree wrote:
I don't know, it was a cool game, was on the edge-ish of my seat. And both players displayed pretty cool control at times (esp Semper with the splits)

I feel like it is the kind of game you can only really appreciate if you don't care about who wins otherwise you just get irritated by all the misplays.


I get what you mean, but at the same time if you're emotionally invested in the game the back and forth foreigner baseball makes it a very intense experience No matter the lead, it can always be thrown


Foreigner baseball - well put haha
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
May 13 2018 20:57 GMT
#66
NA StarCraft
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 13 2018 20:58 GMT
#67
Maru holds
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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
May 13 2018 20:58 GMT
#68
Uhm, okay. Masa totally shrecked him.
Kinda disappointing so far. Not counting Neebs match because that was always going to be, well, not close. But Semper vs Puck was a shitshow throwfest and this was just brutally one-sided
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 13 2018 20:59 GMT
#69
On May 14 2018 03:46 sudete wrote:
masa noregret will be the series of the day, i think

I hope not.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 13 2018 20:59 GMT
#70
NEVER ANY REGRETS
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Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
May 13 2018 20:59 GMT
#71
Ledge OP
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 13 2018 20:59 GMT
#72
This is so terrible, but I'm so entertained by Incontrol and Nathanias roasting the NA player scene
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
May 13 2018 21:00 GMT
#73
This is why we need the old WCS...
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
May 13 2018 21:01 GMT
#74
Quality starcraft ladies and gents. As perfect a series to show your family over christmas to convince them of your hobby as any other.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 13 2018 21:01 GMT
#75
On May 14 2018 05:59 Bagration wrote:
This is so terrible, but I'm so entertained by Incontrol and Nathanias roasting the NA player scene

iNcontroL roasting production, his co-casters, the players, AND twitch chat.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 13 2018 21:09 GMT
#76
On May 14 2018 06:01 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 05:59 Bagration wrote:
This is so terrible, but I'm so entertained by Incontrol and Nathanias roasting the NA player scene

iNcontroL roasting production, his co-casters, the players, AND twitch chat.


It's only fair after all the shit people gave him during the 2011 MLG circuit haha
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 13 2018 21:55 GMT
#77
Did the favored player go 12-0 in this round? Damn
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Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
May 13 2018 21:56 GMT
#78
Some close series on our hands today.
(There have actually been some fun games to be fair )
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
May 13 2018 21:56 GMT
#79
Hoping Masa vs Scarlett will save the day
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 13 2018 21:59 GMT
#80
Game 1 of Scarlett vs JonSnow was pretty back and forth at least, not all hope for NA is lost
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VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-13 22:26:25
May 13 2018 22:26 GMT
#81
On May 14 2018 06:59 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Game 1 of Scarlett vs JonSnow was pretty back and forth at least, not all hope for NA is lost


Man, your signature quote is so accurate it got William Tell jealous
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 13 2018 22:32 GMT
#82
attacking into shield batteries without a superior army. yeah, great idea.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-13 22:39:15
May 13 2018 22:32 GMT
#83
How funny would it be if every single series in this tournament was a sweep

Edit: CURSED
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 13 2018 22:35 GMT
#84
On May 14 2018 07:32 Bagration wrote:
How funny would it be if every single series in this tournament was a sweep

I wouldn't mind it if Neeb took the title that way.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 13 2018 22:41 GMT
#85
The Bagration curse.
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Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2385 Posts
May 13 2018 23:04 GMT
#86
On May 14 2018 07:32 Bagration wrote:
How funny would it be if every single series in this tournament was a sweep

Edit: CURSED

it was last season
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
May 13 2018 23:20 GMT
#87
Is this going to be polt style hellion marauder?
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 13 2018 23:21 GMT
#88
Hellbat/Marauder, bringing it way back
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Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 13 2018 23:22 GMT
#89
On May 14 2018 08:20 royalroadweed wrote:
Is this going to be polt style hellion marauder?


Certainly reminds me of it too - very 2012-esque, now with hellbats
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 13 2018 23:29 GMT
#90
Kicking Scarletts butt in challenger

#justMasathings
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 13 2018 23:29 GMT
#91
Channel the Slayers Boxer, one more bunker rush
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 13 2018 23:29 GMT
#92
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 13 2018 23:30 GMT
#93
On May 14 2018 08:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Kicking Scarletts butt in challenger

#justMasathings

Fixed
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-13 23:31:41
May 13 2018 23:30 GMT
#94
On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.


That's Scarlett's favorite strategy, she would know.

Something something glass houses something something stones.
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Last Edited: 2018-05-13 23:31:30
May 13 2018 23:31 GMT
#95
On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.

That's funny to say when someone is playing SCARLETT.

edit:
On May 14 2018 08:30 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.


That's Scarlett's favorite strategy, she would know.

Damn you.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
May 13 2018 23:31 GMT
#96
That's such a maru thing to do.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 13 2018 23:32 GMT
#97
On May 14 2018 08:31 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.

That's funny to say when someone is playing SCARLETT.

Right, because the one week of her career when won games by cheesing defines her as a player entirely. Just shows your complete ignorance when you classify her as a cheeser off of 3 series.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 13 2018 23:33 GMT
#98
On May 14 2018 08:32 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 08:31 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.

That's funny to say when someone is playing SCARLETT.

Right, because the one week of her career when won games by cheesing defines her as a player entirely. Just shows your complete ignorance when you classify her as a cheeser off of 3 series.

Cheesing the better player literally describes every series she's ever played against Neeb in LotV.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-13 23:34:07
May 13 2018 23:33 GMT
#99
On May 14 2018 08:32 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 08:31 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.

That's funny to say when someone is playing SCARLETT.

Right, because the one week of her career when won games by cheesing defines her as a player entirely. Just shows your complete ignorance when you classify her as a cheeser off of 3 series.


Given that it was the same one week where she peaked by cheesing superior players out of series she should have lost (and was heavily expected to lose).......it's not a false comparison.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 13 2018 23:33 GMT
#100
Yes - more proxies pleases me
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Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
May 13 2018 23:33 GMT
#101
I like this.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33390 Posts
May 13 2018 23:35 GMT
#102
What's up with people called Maru and bunker rushing?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
May 13 2018 23:35 GMT
#103
This series pleases me.
why even
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 13 2018 23:35 GMT
#104
Somewhere, BoxeR is smiling
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France24202 Posts
May 13 2018 23:36 GMT
#105
what a series
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
May 13 2018 23:36 GMT
#106
And what did it cost? everything

ROFL InControl is amazing.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
May 13 2018 23:37 GMT
#107
OK. I hope scarlet loses. That bot did not deserve that.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 13 2018 23:40 GMT
#108
On May 14 2018 08:33 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 08:32 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:31 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.

That's funny to say when someone is playing SCARLETT.

Right, because the one week of her career when won games by cheesing defines her as a player entirely. Just shows your complete ignorance when you classify her as a cheeser off of 3 series.

Cheesing the better player literally describes every series she's ever played against Neeb in LotV.

She cheesed in 2 of the 5 games she won against Neeb in the IEM Pyeongchang qualifiers. Go and troll somewhere else.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 13 2018 23:41 GMT
#109
On May 14 2018 08:40 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 08:33 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:32 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:31 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.

That's funny to say when someone is playing SCARLETT.

Right, because the one week of her career when won games by cheesing defines her as a player entirely. Just shows your complete ignorance when you classify her as a cheeser off of 3 series.

Cheesing the better player literally describes every series she's ever played against Neeb in LotV.

She cheesed in 2 of the 5 games she won against Neeb in the IEM Pyeongchang qualifiers. Go and troll somewhere else.

I said every series, not every game. 2 cheeses out of 5 is a huge percentage, especially when PvZ was functionally unwinnable if the Protoss didn't play super defensively and playing super defensively just got you killed to lurkers later.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 13 2018 23:42 GMT
#110
Salt on instant ramen? Incontrol really likes his salt
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United States4001 Posts
May 13 2018 23:46 GMT
#111
On May 14 2018 08:41 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 08:40 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:33 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:32 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:31 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.

That's funny to say when someone is playing SCARLETT.

Right, because the one week of her career when won games by cheesing defines her as a player entirely. Just shows your complete ignorance when you classify her as a cheeser off of 3 series.

Cheesing the better player literally describes every series she's ever played against Neeb in LotV.

She cheesed in 2 of the 5 games she won against Neeb in the IEM Pyeongchang qualifiers. Go and troll somewhere else.

I said every series, not every game. 2 cheeses out of 5 is a huge percentage, especially when PvZ was functionally unwinnable if the Protoss didn't play super defensively and playing super defensively just got you killed to lurkers later.

40% is a completely normal amount of cheese for a series. sOs cannon rushed Jaedong twice in the Blizzcon 2013 finals and 2 Gated herO twice in the IEM Katowice finals in 2014, but I wouldn't say he won those series entirely off of cheese.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2018-05-13 23:46:36
May 13 2018 23:46 GMT
#112
Vipers going full NA
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Profile Joined January 2017
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May 13 2018 23:47 GMT
#113
On May 14 2018 08:46 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 08:41 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:40 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:33 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:32 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:31 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.

That's funny to say when someone is playing SCARLETT.

Right, because the one week of her career when won games by cheesing defines her as a player entirely. Just shows your complete ignorance when you classify her as a cheeser off of 3 series.

Cheesing the better player literally describes every series she's ever played against Neeb in LotV.

She cheesed in 2 of the 5 games she won against Neeb in the IEM Pyeongchang qualifiers. Go and troll somewhere else.

I said every series, not every game. 2 cheeses out of 5 is a huge percentage, especially when PvZ was functionally unwinnable if the Protoss didn't play super defensively and playing super defensively just got you killed to lurkers later.

40% is a completely normal amount of cheese for a series. sOs cannon rushed Jaedong twice in the Blizzcon 2013 finals and 2 Gated herO twice in the IEM Katowice finals in 2014, but I wouldn't say he won those series entirely off of cheese.

That's because sOs is a good player rather than a patch X.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 13 2018 23:47 GMT
#114
On May 14 2018 08:46 pvsnp wrote:
Vipers going full NA

Need an auto-attack so that they don't run into their deaths.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 13 2018 23:48 GMT
#115
On May 14 2018 08:47 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 08:46 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:41 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:40 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:33 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:32 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:31 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.

That's funny to say when someone is playing SCARLETT.

Right, because the one week of her career when won games by cheesing defines her as a player entirely. Just shows your complete ignorance when you classify her as a cheeser off of 3 series.

Cheesing the better player literally describes every series she's ever played against Neeb in LotV.

She cheesed in 2 of the 5 games she won against Neeb in the IEM Pyeongchang qualifiers. Go and troll somewhere else.

I said every series, not every game. 2 cheeses out of 5 is a huge percentage, especially when PvZ was functionally unwinnable if the Protoss didn't play super defensively and playing super defensively just got you killed to lurkers later.

40% is a completely normal amount of cheese for a series. sOs cannon rushed Jaedong twice in the Blizzcon 2013 finals and 2 Gated herO twice in the IEM Katowice finals in 2014, but I wouldn't say he won those series entirely off of cheese.

That's because sOs is a good player rather than a patch X.

One of the best foreigners of all time isn't a good player? Oh right, only Koreans are good, foreigners only have the illusion of being good because they rape and pillage the Korean scene.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 13 2018 23:49 GMT
#116
Masa really needs to work on his medivac count and/or overstimming
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United States18282 Posts
May 13 2018 23:49 GMT
#117
On May 14 2018 08:42 pvsnp wrote:
Salt on instant ramen? Incontrol really likes his salt


Can't work in the eSports industry without an appreciation for salt
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-13 23:54:31
May 13 2018 23:54 GMT
#118
On May 14 2018 08:48 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 08:47 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:46 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:41 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:40 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:33 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:32 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:31 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.

That's funny to say when someone is playing SCARLETT.

Right, because the one week of her career when won games by cheesing defines her as a player entirely. Just shows your complete ignorance when you classify her as a cheeser off of 3 series.

Cheesing the better player literally describes every series she's ever played against Neeb in LotV.

She cheesed in 2 of the 5 games she won against Neeb in the IEM Pyeongchang qualifiers. Go and troll somewhere else.

I said every series, not every game. 2 cheeses out of 5 is a huge percentage, especially when PvZ was functionally unwinnable if the Protoss didn't play super defensively and playing super defensively just got you killed to lurkers later.

40% is a completely normal amount of cheese for a series. sOs cannon rushed Jaedong twice in the Blizzcon 2013 finals and 2 Gated herO twice in the IEM Katowice finals in 2014, but I wouldn't say he won those series entirely off of cheese.

That's because sOs is a good player rather than a patch X.

One of the best foreigners of all time isn't a good player? Oh right, only Koreans are good, foreigners only have the illusion of being good because they rape and pillage the Korean scene.

Prior to 2018, you have to go back to 2014 to find a really impressive Scarlett performance. Scarlett was a tier 4 WCS Circuit player in 2017. (Tiers: Neeb, Championship Contenders, They could make a finals with bracket luck, and then Scarlett) That's literally the definition of patch Zerg.
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 13 2018 23:55 GMT
#119
Please, more bunkers Masa
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 13 2018 23:57 GMT
#120
On May 14 2018 08:55 Latr02 wrote:
Please, more bunkers Masa

Yes please. Scarlett won't expect it in game 4 or even game 5.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 13 2018 23:59 GMT
#121
Considering this is Backwater, I would have preferred fast 3CC

But hey, sick mindgames
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May 14 2018 00:00 GMT
#122
I don't really see what that build does for Masa.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 14 2018 00:00 GMT
#123
On May 14 2018 08:54 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 08:48 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:47 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:46 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:41 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:40 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:33 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:32 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:31 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.

That's funny to say when someone is playing SCARLETT.

Right, because the one week of her career when won games by cheesing defines her as a player entirely. Just shows your complete ignorance when you classify her as a cheeser off of 3 series.

Cheesing the better player literally describes every series she's ever played against Neeb in LotV.

She cheesed in 2 of the 5 games she won against Neeb in the IEM Pyeongchang qualifiers. Go and troll somewhere else.

I said every series, not every game. 2 cheeses out of 5 is a huge percentage, especially when PvZ was functionally unwinnable if the Protoss didn't play super defensively and playing super defensively just got you killed to lurkers later.

40% is a completely normal amount of cheese for a series. sOs cannon rushed Jaedong twice in the Blizzcon 2013 finals and 2 Gated herO twice in the IEM Katowice finals in 2014, but I wouldn't say he won those series entirely off of cheese.

That's because sOs is a good player rather than a patch X.

One of the best foreigners of all time isn't a good player? Oh right, only Koreans are good, foreigners only have the illusion of being good because they rape and pillage the Korean scene.

Prior to 2018, you have to go back to 2014 to find a really impressive Scarlett performance. Scarlett was a tier 4 WCS Circuit player in 2017. (Tiers: Neeb, Championship Contenders, They could make a finals with bracket luck, and then Scarlett) That's literally the definition of patch Zerg.

Consistent Ro8-Ro16 finishes is a tier 4 player? By that logic PartinG and DRG were tier 4 GSL players for nearly their entire career. Just keep moving the goalposts more, maybe you'll eventually find a way your hatred of Scarlett is justified.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 00:02 GMT
#124
On May 14 2018 09:00 Solar424 wrote:
maybe you'll eventually find a way your hatred of Scarlett is justified.

Oh, I don't need to do that. Professionals don't say to delete a race they don't like.
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 14 2018 00:02 GMT
#125
On May 14 2018 09:00 Boggyb wrote:
I don't really see what that build does for Masa.

Right? Why not just build the rax in base and start a bunker to force a reaction if the mind game was the only goal.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 14 2018 00:03 GMT
#126
On May 14 2018 09:02 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 09:00 Solar424 wrote:
maybe you'll eventually find a way your hatred of Scarlett is justified.

Oh, I don't need to do that. Professionals don't say to delete a race they don't like.

Were you even around for HotS? Protoss was filled to the brim with the most insane builds that worked out because the race had so many options you couldn't prepare for all of them. Wanting the race to be redesigned was something people had been asking for since WoL.
yangluphil
Profile Joined July 2015
318 Posts
May 14 2018 00:04 GMT
#127
I mean Scarlett is obviously a patchzerg no question. That's not bad per se. There are tons of zergs that can't get results even when patch favors zergs.
Neither party will be missed.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 14 2018 00:04 GMT
#128
On May 14 2018 09:04 yangluphil wrote:
There are tons of zergs that can't get results even when patch favors zergs.

Like every Zerg in Korea.
yangluphil
Profile Joined July 2015
318 Posts
May 14 2018 00:05 GMT
#129
On May 14 2018 09:04 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 09:04 yangluphil wrote:
There are tons of zergs that can't get results even when patch favors zergs.

Like every Zerg in Korea.

except THE patchzerg.
Neither party will be missed.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 14 2018 00:05 GMT
#130
On May 14 2018 09:04 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 09:04 yangluphil wrote:
There are tons of zergs that can't get results even when patch favors zergs.

Like every Zerg in Korea.


Rogue would like a word
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2855 Posts
May 14 2018 00:07 GMT
#131
On May 14 2018 09:04 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 09:04 yangluphil wrote:
There are tons of zergs that can't get results even when patch favors zergs.

Like every Zerg in Korea.

Would you consider 2016 to be Zerg favored? The top 2 players in Korea were Dark and Solar.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 14 2018 00:07 GMT
#132
92 drones holy fuck
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Last Edited: 2018-05-14 00:15:19
May 14 2018 00:12 GMT
#133
Dunno what it is with foreign mech but it really seems that all of them neglect AA, the Viking count is almost always pathetic

Side effect of going for Hellbat drops, not really worth sacrificing AA
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United States18282 Posts
May 14 2018 00:13 GMT
#134
Patch zergs are players that are irrelevant post-patch. Think JohnnyRecco
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 14 2018 00:15 GMT
#135
The term patch zerg officially means nothing anymore ever since Mizen said Rogue was one
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 00:15 GMT
#136
On May 14 2018 09:13 Bagration wrote:
Patch zergs are players that are irrelevant post-patch. Think JohnnyRecco

Wins premier tournament.
Race gets patched.
Bombs out of GSL in ro32.

If that made Rogue a patch Zerg, it makes Scarlett a patch zerg.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 00:16 GMT
#137
5 games. 5 proxies. I love it.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 14 2018 00:18 GMT
#138
This is a weird af game
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
May 14 2018 00:19 GMT
#139
Masa is the man.
why even
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 14 2018 00:19 GMT
#140
Can we finally talk about bunker build time?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 14 2018 00:20 GMT
#141
On May 14 2018 09:19 Latr02 wrote:
Can we finally talk about bunker build time?


DAVID KIM PLZ
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Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
May 14 2018 00:20 GMT
#142
best series ever
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 00:21 GMT
#143
Top notch game and top notch commentary.
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 14 2018 00:21 GMT
#144
I wouldn't expect anything else from NA Challenger tbh
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 14 2018 00:22 GMT
#145
Someone needs to go through their match history and count the number of proxy rax builds Masa has done to Scarlett. It must be a comedically large number
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 14 2018 00:23 GMT
#146
On May 14 2018 09:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Someone needs to go through their match history and count the number of proxy rax builds Masa has done to Scarlett. It must be a comedically large number


Well whatever it was, it just went up by 5
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amyamyamy
Profile Joined November 2017
76 Posts
May 14 2018 00:23 GMT
#147
Being an inferior player, MaSa resorts to braindead shenigans instead of playing straight up

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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-14 00:26:28
May 14 2018 00:24 GMT
#148
On May 14 2018 09:15 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 09:13 Bagration wrote:
Patch zergs are players that are irrelevant post-patch. Think JohnnyRecco

Wins premier tournament.
Race gets patched.
Bombs out of GSL in ro32.

If that made Rogue a patch Zerg, it makes Scarlett a patch zerg.

Alternatively, she just rode a hot streak. She got knocked out of DH Leipzig in the Ro32 the week before IEM. Scarlett is a player who's form is never really constant, and the patch wouldn't have made an impact on her Ro16 group, since she used ling drops in precisely zero of her games.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 00:24 GMT
#149
Instead of manner muling, I'd love to see MaSa build some manner bunkers.
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 14 2018 00:27 GMT
#150
Maybe MaSa's entire approach was to get Scarlett off her game plan from the get go, get it to a weird position. Or maybe he just really likes proxy rax
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 14 2018 00:29 GMT
#151
Scarlett with the spoiler stream start timing
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 14 2018 00:29 GMT
#152
A literal terran god
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-14 00:31:17
May 14 2018 00:30 GMT
#153
On May 14 2018 09:23 amyamyamy wrote:
Being an inferior player, MaSa resorts to braindead shenigans instead of playing straight up


That (ironic) conversation has already happened:

On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.


On May 14 2018 08:30 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.


That's Scarlett's favorite strategy, she would know.

Something something glass houses something something stones.


On May 14 2018 08:31 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.

That's funny to say when someone is playing SCARLETT.

edit:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 08:30 pvsnp wrote:
On May 14 2018 08:29 Solar424 wrote:
When you know you're outclassed, just cheese. #1 way to win series you shouldn't.


That's Scarlett's favorite strategy, she would know.

Damn you.

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United States4001 Posts
May 14 2018 00:30 GMT
#154
If ling drops got nerfed based on one series, can we get bunker rush nerfed off of this one? Apparently that's the precedent that's been set.
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 14 2018 00:31 GMT
#155
Nathanias is enjoying this a lot
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-14 00:35:06
May 14 2018 00:32 GMT
#156
On May 14 2018 09:31 Latr02 wrote:
Nathanias is enjoying this a lot


Incontrol too. They need to use the break to take that cold shower.

Together. (thanks for that mental image, incontrol)
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 00:32 GMT
#157
On May 14 2018 09:30 Solar424 wrote:
If ling drops got nerfed based on one series, can we get bunker rush nerfed off of this one? Apparently that's the precedent that's been set.

Dropperlords were nerfed because PvZ was at ~43.5% and opening anything other than Stargate into Oracle was an auto-loss against a not very committed ling attack.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 14 2018 00:34 GMT
#158
On May 14 2018 09:32 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 09:30 Solar424 wrote:
If ling drops got nerfed based on one series, can we get bunker rush nerfed off of this one? Apparently that's the precedent that's been set.

Dropperlords were nerfed because PvZ was at ~43.5% and opening anything other than Stargate into Oracle was an auto-loss against a not very committed ling attack.

And anything but opening pool first is an auto-loss against bunker rushes, which are basically 0 commitment because bunkers can still be salvaged and barracks can just be floated back to your main base.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 14 2018 00:35 GMT
#159
On May 14 2018 09:34 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 09:32 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:30 Solar424 wrote:
If ling drops got nerfed based on one series, can we get bunker rush nerfed off of this one? Apparently that's the precedent that's been set.

Dropperlords were nerfed because PvZ was at ~43.5% and opening anything other than Stargate into Oracle was an auto-loss against a not very committed ling attack.

And anything but opening pool first is an auto-loss against bunker rushes, which are basically 0 commitment because bunkers can still be salvaged and barracks can just be floated back to your main base.


Clearly we need to increase bunker build time.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 14 2018 00:38 GMT
#160
On May 14 2018 09:35 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 09:34 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:32 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:30 Solar424 wrote:
If ling drops got nerfed based on one series, can we get bunker rush nerfed off of this one? Apparently that's the precedent that's been set.

Dropperlords were nerfed because PvZ was at ~43.5% and opening anything other than Stargate into Oracle was an auto-loss against a not very committed ling attack.

And anything but opening pool first is an auto-loss against bunker rushes, which are basically 0 commitment because bunkers can still be salvaged and barracks can just be floated back to your main base.


Clearly we need to increase bunker build time.

This but actually not totally joking. Or eliminate salvage because it's always been a weird mechanic
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 00:39 GMT
#161
On May 14 2018 09:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 09:35 pvsnp wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:34 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:32 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:30 Solar424 wrote:
If ling drops got nerfed based on one series, can we get bunker rush nerfed off of this one? Apparently that's the precedent that's been set.

Dropperlords were nerfed because PvZ was at ~43.5% and opening anything other than Stargate into Oracle was an auto-loss against a not very committed ling attack.

And anything but opening pool first is an auto-loss against bunker rushes, which are basically 0 commitment because bunkers can still be salvaged and barracks can just be floated back to your main base.


Clearly we need to increase bunker build time.

This but actually not totally joking. Or eliminate salvage because it's always been a weird mechanic

Either of those would seem to make some Zerg all ins extremely hard to defend.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 14 2018 00:42 GMT
#162
On May 14 2018 09:39 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 09:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:35 pvsnp wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:34 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:32 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:30 Solar424 wrote:
If ling drops got nerfed based on one series, can we get bunker rush nerfed off of this one? Apparently that's the precedent that's been set.

Dropperlords were nerfed because PvZ was at ~43.5% and opening anything other than Stargate into Oracle was an auto-loss against a not very committed ling attack.

And anything but opening pool first is an auto-loss against bunker rushes, which are basically 0 commitment because bunkers can still be salvaged and barracks can just be floated back to your main base.


Clearly we need to increase bunker build time.

This but actually not totally joking. Or eliminate salvage because it's always been a weird mechanic

Either of those would seem to make some Zerg all ins extremely hard to defend.

Which one, the 2 base Roach Ravager timing, or the... oh wait I guess that's about it for Zerg all-ins.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 14 2018 00:42 GMT
#163
On May 14 2018 09:39 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 09:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:35 pvsnp wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:34 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:32 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:30 Solar424 wrote:
If ling drops got nerfed based on one series, can we get bunker rush nerfed off of this one? Apparently that's the precedent that's been set.

Dropperlords were nerfed because PvZ was at ~43.5% and opening anything other than Stargate into Oracle was an auto-loss against a not very committed ling attack.

And anything but opening pool first is an auto-loss against bunker rushes, which are basically 0 commitment because bunkers can still be salvaged and barracks can just be floated back to your main base.


Clearly we need to increase bunker build time.

This but actually not totally joking. Or eliminate salvage because it's always been a weird mechanic

Either of those would seem to make some Zerg all ins extremely hard to defend.

Yes but it would directly benefit me and my favorite players.
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 00:43 GMT
#164
On May 14 2018 09:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 09:39 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:35 pvsnp wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:34 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:32 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:30 Solar424 wrote:
If ling drops got nerfed based on one series, can we get bunker rush nerfed off of this one? Apparently that's the precedent that's been set.

Dropperlords were nerfed because PvZ was at ~43.5% and opening anything other than Stargate into Oracle was an auto-loss against a not very committed ling attack.

And anything but opening pool first is an auto-loss against bunker rushes, which are basically 0 commitment because bunkers can still be salvaged and barracks can just be floated back to your main base.


Clearly we need to increase bunker build time.

This but actually not totally joking. Or eliminate salvage because it's always been a weird mechanic

Either of those would seem to make some Zerg all ins extremely hard to defend.

Yes but it would directly benefit me and my favorite players.

That's a refreshing level of honesty.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-14 00:44:04
May 14 2018 00:43 GMT
#165
On May 14 2018 09:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 09:39 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:35 pvsnp wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:34 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:32 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:30 Solar424 wrote:
If ling drops got nerfed based on one series, can we get bunker rush nerfed off of this one? Apparently that's the precedent that's been set.

Dropperlords were nerfed because PvZ was at ~43.5% and opening anything other than Stargate into Oracle was an auto-loss against a not very committed ling attack.

And anything but opening pool first is an auto-loss against bunker rushes, which are basically 0 commitment because bunkers can still be salvaged and barracks can just be floated back to your main base.


Clearly we need to increase bunker build time.

This but actually not totally joking. Or eliminate salvage because it's always been a weird mechanic

Either of those would seem to make some Zerg all ins extremely hard to defend.

Yes but it would directly benefit me and my favorite players.


A for honesty

On May 14 2018 09:43 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 09:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:39 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:35 pvsnp wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:34 Solar424 wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:32 Boggyb wrote:
On May 14 2018 09:30 Solar424 wrote:
If ling drops got nerfed based on one series, can we get bunker rush nerfed off of this one? Apparently that's the precedent that's been set.

Dropperlords were nerfed because PvZ was at ~43.5% and opening anything other than Stargate into Oracle was an auto-loss against a not very committed ling attack.

And anything but opening pool first is an auto-loss against bunker rushes, which are basically 0 commitment because bunkers can still be salvaged and barracks can just be floated back to your main base.


Clearly we need to increase bunker build time.

This but actually not totally joking. Or eliminate salvage because it's always been a weird mechanic

Either of those would seem to make some Zerg all ins extremely hard to defend.

Yes but it would directly benefit me and my favorite players.

That's a refreshing level of honesty.


Damn you
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Canada28396 Posts
May 14 2018 00:45 GMT
#166
Scarlett should have been watching Masa's discord apparently

[image loading]
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Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 14 2018 00:53 GMT
#167
MaSa is 28-58 vs Neeb in map score historically and Aligulac gives Neeb a 78% chance of winning, but also according to Aligulac MaSa played his first match on the 10th anniversary of 9/11 and this is NA Challenger so who knows what can happen.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 00:57 GMT
#168
That fight to end game 1 was absolutely brutal.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-14 01:04:06
May 14 2018 01:03 GMT
#169
Neeb's refusal to build 1 sentry might lose him this game.

edit:
He makes 2, so he probably wins.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 14 2018 01:04 GMT
#170
From Masa's Liquipedia page:
MaSa began seriously competing in StarCraft II after being inspired by players like BoxeR and NaDa competing in the GSL.

I get what he meant by that now.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
May 14 2018 01:06 GMT
#171
Oh my god this is proper NA. This is 100% unadulterated NA pro SC2, and I want to hate it. But... I almost can't.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33390 Posts
May 14 2018 01:06 GMT
#172
I hope "did you know MaSa's real name is Maru" becomes the new "Ohana means family"
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 01:07 GMT
#173
On May 14 2018 10:06 Waxangel wrote:
I hope "did you know MaSa's real name is Maru" becomes the new "Ohana means family"

It would probably require him doing really well at Austin for it to get enough air time to stick.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 14 2018 01:08 GMT
#174
Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 14 2018 01:09 GMT
#175
On May 14 2018 10:06 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Oh my god this is proper NA. This is 100% unadulterated NA pro SC2, and I want to hate it. But... I almost can't.

"Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?"
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 14 2018 01:12 GMT
#176
North America may not have the best cheese, but we have the most cheese
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
May 14 2018 01:12 GMT
#177
That was terrible.
That whole game, and everything about it, was terrible.
But I *am* laughing.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 14 2018 01:12 GMT
#178
Even Neeb can fall to it. Korea needs to start paying attention to Masa builds
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-14 01:16:37
May 14 2018 01:14 GMT
#179
On May 14 2018 10:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Even Neeb can fall to it. Korea needs to start paying attention to Masa builds


I mean, did you watch the GSL finals? Maru (the real Maru) busted out the crazy cheeses first.
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yangluphil
Profile Joined July 2015
318 Posts
May 14 2018 01:15 GMT
#180
What you guys complaining about? I'm trying to win here. -- Masa
Neither party will be missed.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 14 2018 01:16 GMT
#181
On May 14 2018 10:14 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 10:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Even Neeb can fall to it. Korea needs to start paying attention to Masa builds


I mean, did you watch the GSL finals? Maru (the real Maru) did it all first.

Masa was Maru first, to be fair. Maru been copying every step of the way.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33390 Posts
May 14 2018 01:19 GMT
#182
When Korean Maru does it, it's a calculated, cold-blooded move by a top tier competitor. When other Korean Maru does it, it, it's disgusting cheese.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
May 14 2018 01:22 GMT
#183
On May 14 2018 10:14 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 10:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Even Neeb can fall to it. Korea needs to start paying attention to Masa builds


I mean, did you watch the GSL finals? Maru (the real Maru) busted out the crazy cheeses first.

Masa is the real Maru.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 01:22 GMT
#184
Once again Maru going for the fake proxy.
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 14 2018 01:23 GMT
#185
Maru really refining these mind game builds in front of our very eyes.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 14 2018 01:24 GMT
#186
Ah, the good old proxy Destiny Cloudfist
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Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
May 14 2018 01:24 GMT
#187
Another one.
If this were a drinking game, I'd be calling my ex by now.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 01:24 GMT
#188
Neither Scarlett nor Neeb spend much time on NA ladder, so MaSa going for full NA strats seems like a decent idea.
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 14 2018 01:28 GMT
#189
Recall???
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 14 2018 01:29 GMT
#190
wtf am i even watching
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 01:29 GMT
#191
I think Neeb actually might lose this.
yangluphil
Profile Joined July 2015
318 Posts
May 14 2018 01:29 GMT
#192
Genius
Neither party will be missed.
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
May 14 2018 01:30 GMT
#193
I've seen a lot of Masa, and it's the first time I feel anything about him. What a god
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33390 Posts
May 14 2018 01:30 GMT
#194
Wait, didn't the other Maru also do a fake 1-1-1 proxy right outside his base to force 1-base defensive play from Protoss in the finals???
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
May 14 2018 01:31 GMT
#195
Neeb has been spending too much time in KR. He can't handle these advanced NA tactics.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 14 2018 01:32 GMT
#196
We're witnessing greatness
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
May 14 2018 01:32 GMT
#197
Everything in this game bothers me - Nathanias is correct.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 14 2018 01:33 GMT
#198
this is a Has level game from a terran, something i never thought i would see
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 14 2018 01:33 GMT
#199
So this is what it feels like to watch history in the making
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Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
May 14 2018 01:34 GMT
#200
On May 14 2018 10:30 Waxangel wrote:
Wait, didn't the other Maru also do a fake 1-1-1 proxy right outside his base to force 1-base defensive play from Protoss in the finals???


I feel bad but I can't remember what series are you referring to
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 14 2018 01:34 GMT
#201
MEME GOD
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 01:34 GMT
#202
I'm starting to believe that Maru can actually win this.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
May 14 2018 01:35 GMT
#203
Neeb playing checkers. Masa playing 4d chess.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-14 01:36:46
May 14 2018 01:35 GMT
#204
On May 14 2018 10:34 VengefulTree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 10:30 Waxangel wrote:
Wait, didn't the other Maru also do a fake 1-1-1 proxy right outside his base to force 1-base defensive play from Protoss in the finals???


I feel bad but I can't remember what series are you referring to


GSL finals (the most recent one) Game 4 of Maru vs Stats
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Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33390 Posts
May 14 2018 01:35 GMT
#205
On May 14 2018 10:34 VengefulTree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 10:30 Waxangel wrote:
Wait, didn't the other Maru also do a fake 1-1-1 proxy right outside his base to force 1-base defensive play from Protoss in the finals???


I feel bad but I can't remember what series are you referring to


abyssal reef where Maru "proxies" his factory and starport at his third base, confusing stats and getting him to go 3 gate 1 stargate off one base in his panic
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Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 14 2018 01:36 GMT
#206
Maru teaching Neeb a valuable lesson: never forget where you come from
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 14 2018 01:37 GMT
#207
Masa is sending out 2 SCV's onto the map, wonder what he's up to here.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 14 2018 01:38 GMT
#208
On May 14 2018 10:37 Solar424 wrote:
Masa is sending out 2 SCV's onto the map, wonder what he's up to here.


At this point it's a question of where
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 14 2018 01:39 GMT
#209
Masa please stop. This is getting silly
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 01:40 GMT
#210
If Maru had a CC, I'd say he was in an amazing spot.
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-14 01:40:41
May 14 2018 01:40 GMT
#211
On May 14 2018 10:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Masa please stop. This is getting silly


I mean, as long as it's working This is some ActionJesuz level shit right there
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 01:41 GMT
#212
What on earth is the point of that Nexus location?
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
May 14 2018 01:43 GMT
#213
Someone should unironically try make some "intro to starcraft" style tutorial videos off of this BO7.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 14 2018 01:44 GMT
#214
this is my favorite bo7 ever
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 14 2018 01:45 GMT
#215
We should have NA challenger every weekend
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-14 01:46:06
May 14 2018 01:45 GMT
#216
M A S A

A S A

H A S A

H A S

It was there all along
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 14 2018 01:45 GMT
#217
On May 14 2018 10:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
We should have NA challenger every weekend

sc2 will be revived forever
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 14 2018 01:46 GMT
#218
Please for the love of all that is Has, let this go to Game 7
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 14 2018 01:47 GMT
#219
On May 14 2018 10:45 Bagration wrote:
M A S A

A S A

H A S A

H A S

It was there all along

Chris Nolan releasing a Masa movie, out soonTM
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
May 14 2018 01:48 GMT
#220
Sometimes I feel like these players are discovering the game, hard to accept that they're playing it all day for a living XD
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
May 14 2018 01:49 GMT
#221
This is almost painful to watch. I can *feel* Neeb's contempt seeing this.
Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
May 14 2018 01:55 GMT
#222
On May 14 2018 10:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Masa please stop. This is getting silly


That's exactly why he shouldn't stop
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2647 Posts
May 14 2018 01:57 GMT
#223
On May 14 2018 10:49 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
This is almost painful to watch. I can *feel* Neeb's contempt seeing this.


Not with mech, when you see a terran going mech as protoss you think "I guess I win now"
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 01:59 GMT
#224
On May 14 2018 10:57 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 10:49 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
This is almost painful to watch. I can *feel* Neeb's contempt seeing this.


Not with mech, when you see a terran going mech as protoss you think "I guess I win now"

uThermal has used it to decent effect recently including games against Neeb.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
May 14 2018 02:02 GMT
#225
Why would you ever not mass immortals against mech
yangluphil
Profile Joined July 2015
318 Posts
May 14 2018 02:03 GMT
#226
Just play like Masa
Neither party will be missed.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
May 14 2018 02:03 GMT
#227
Best series NA.
why even
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-14 02:04:21
May 14 2018 02:03 GMT
#228
On May 14 2018 10:57 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 10:49 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
This is almost painful to watch. I can *feel* Neeb's contempt seeing this.


Not with mech, when you see a terran going mech as protoss you think "I guess I win now"


Unless you're Neeb, then you think "I guess I make VRs and lose now"
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 14 2018 02:03 GMT
#229
Electronic sporting history folks
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 14 2018 02:04 GMT
#230
What a game
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
May 14 2018 02:04 GMT
#231
That was the "normal" game :D
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 14 2018 02:04 GMT
#232
if Masa somehow beats Neeb i don't even know, this series is so ridiculous
Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
May 14 2018 02:04 GMT
#233
GAME 7 HYPE!
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 14 2018 02:04 GMT
#234
This tournament has been just something else man
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 02:04 GMT
#235
If Maru wins game 7, this is by far his most impressive series in 2018.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 14 2018 02:05 GMT
#236
i must say i am happy to see a game 7 in this insane series
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 14 2018 02:05 GMT
#237
Masa should win now because he is clearly the most NA player
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
May 14 2018 02:05 GMT
#238
On May 14 2018 11:03 Latr02 wrote:
Electronic sporting history folks

These cyber athletes are playing out of their minds right now.
why even
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
May 14 2018 02:05 GMT
#239
Masa is beginning to usurp Gumiho's position as my favorite terran.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
May 14 2018 02:05 GMT
#240
Not often you see cyclone anti air closing out a game, lol
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 14 2018 02:05 GMT
#241
On May 14 2018 11:04 Boggyb wrote:
If Maru wins game 7, this is by far his most impressive series in 2018.


This would be his most impressive tournament ever
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2647 Posts
May 14 2018 02:05 GMT
#242
On May 14 2018 11:03 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2018 10:57 Lexender wrote:
On May 14 2018 10:49 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
This is almost painful to watch. I can *feel* Neeb's contempt seeing this.


Not with mech, when you see a terran going mech as protoss you think "I guess I win now"


Unless you're Neeb, then you think "I guess I make VRs and lose now"


You mean going stalker disruptor.

If he did a big zealot/inmortal push with the same money he wins straight up.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
May 14 2018 02:06 GMT
#243
To beat protoss with mech you just have to play like maru.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 14 2018 02:06 GMT
#244
Neeb must be so tilted right now lol
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
May 14 2018 02:06 GMT
#245
What is Neeb doing?
He had a sick economy. Just build those carriers and immortals and get your free win dude... OMG
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 14 2018 02:08 GMT
#246
Death, taxes, and Masa proxying.
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 14 2018 02:08 GMT
#247
TL's Games of the Month could just be these two series
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
May 14 2018 02:08 GMT
#248
On May 14 2018 11:06 MarianoSC2 wrote:
What is Neeb doing?
He had a sick economy. Just build those carriers and immortals and get your free win dude... OMG

I think he could have just built immortals instead of disruptors and win with that first push tough disruptor stalker did much better than I thought it would.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 02:13 GMT
#249
Maru was SOOOOO close to breaking that.
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
May 14 2018 02:16 GMT
#250
Why didn't Masa disable missile the prism
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 14 2018 02:18 GMT
#251
rip the dream is dead
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 14 2018 02:18 GMT
#252
Masa is actually doing us all a favor: he's showing that Terran can be just as bullshit as Protoss and Zerg so that Terran players stop acting superior.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
May 14 2018 02:21 GMT
#253
Thanks Masa for all you showed today.
why even
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 14 2018 02:21 GMT
#254
What an entertainment tournament
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
May 14 2018 02:22 GMT
#255
I love that this tournament started up so bad and ended soooo good
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 14 2018 02:23 GMT
#256
That was a lot of fun. Such a shame that Maru isn't allowed to play in NationWars
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 14 2018 02:26 GMT
#257
I feel like those series wouldn't have been nearly as fun without iNcontroL and Nathanias bringing the top tier commentary.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
May 14 2018 02:27 GMT
#258
Fun games, neeb really should've killed it in g6 but g7 wasn't too bad
Year of MaxPax
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 14 2018 02:51 GMT
#259
On May 14 2018 11:26 Boggyb wrote:
I feel like those series wouldn't have been nearly as fun without iNcontroL and Nathanias bringing the top tier commentary.


Yea - that casters were great for this series
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
May 14 2018 14:09 GMT
#260
On May 14 2018 11:06 royalroadweed wrote:
To beat protoss with mech you just have to play like maru.


Did you see uthermal performance against showtime?
YourLocalRabbi
Profile Joined June 2011
United States11 Posts
May 21 2018 14:09 GMT
#261
Can someone tell incontrol not to complain about other casters' observing unless he is willing to observe himself?

Otherwise,
"Yes, occasionally I'll hit somebody with my car. So sue me." -Michael Scott
t e a C h e r
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada151 Posts
May 21 2018 22:35 GMT
#262
hey, how do i sign up for the open tournament. and how much is it. Which Pass do i need to buy. PLEASE HELP!
@bullscent , twitch: teacherwish
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 21 2018 23:03 GMT
#263
On May 21 2018 23:09 YourLocalRabbi wrote:
Can someone tell incontrol not to complain about other casters' observing unless he is willing to observe himself?

Otherwise,

Considering every time he criticized FearDragon or Nathanias's observing, he said that if he took over, they'd look like Funka or Shine in comparison, he already knows.
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