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Alright, hopefully it's a 3-2 with many great games, or I feel bad for the people who showed up to watch live today
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your Country52797 Posts
On March 09 2018 19:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Alright, hopefully it's a 3-2 with many great games, or I feel bad for the people who showed up to watch live today
I'm going to bed now so it's going to be exactly that. Have fun!
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Yeah i don't think you can call Scarlett getting here a "fluke" she was doing very well in that period showing why she was able to win IEM Winter Olympics tourney. Just now maybe travel and what not is catching up with her and ZvZ is a bad match up.
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On March 09 2018 19:21 MarthTV wrote:
Please dear Starcraft gods give me some 40 minute Golden Armada battles. I want to see some nice lategame PvP. Or some crazy shit. But make it entertaining.
Please no skytoss, so boring
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On March 09 2018 19:18 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 19:14 LongShot27 wrote:
"Go back to Canadia!" essentially what soO said Winter Olympics is over why are you still here - soO 9th March 2018
Brutal diss if you think about it
(Special Olympics)
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
On March 09 2018 19:23 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 19:18 Pandemona wrote:On March 09 2018 19:14 LongShot27 wrote:
"Go back to Canadia!" essentially what soO said Winter Olympics is over why are you still here - soO 9th March 2018 Brutal diss if you think about it (Special Olympics)
Offt, i did not mean it that way 
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On March 09 2018 19:21 Soularion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 19:21 FrkFrJss wrote:On March 09 2018 19:17 Soularion wrote:On March 09 2018 19:16 Muffloe wrote:On March 09 2018 19:10 Fyzar wrote:On March 09 2018 19:06 Morbidius wrote:
Lose 2 games to the best ZvZer inthe world, and suddenly she's considered garbage? Cheese a couple games and suddenly she’s considered best foreigner? Same logic applies tbh. if u can get ro8 gsl by cheesing a couple of games, then sign me up  tbf she got ro8 gsl by beating billowy and 3 hugely slumping players. This has to be one of the all-time worst Ro8 runs, knowing what we know now about INno and Rogue's form. soO's run, to be far, wasn't all that much more impressive. He beat NoRegreT and Zest and then beat aLive twice. Yea but at least he faced Dark so he got to be a #2 seed.
There is always chance to go deep with mostly "cheeses" but at the end of the day lets see if this repeats or not cause one time RO8 is "cheese" but if this repeats its on the players to not let cheesy player to beat them
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Canada2764 Posts
On March 09 2018 19:22 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah i don't think you can call Scarlett getting here a "fluke" she was doing very well in that period showing why she was able to win IEM Winter Olympics tourney. Just now maybe travel and what not is catching up with her and ZvZ is a bad match up.
I think she was only truly elite at ZvZ, and even that she's fairly inconsistent at but she certainly looked good at IEM and has shown great potential, while otherwise she's coasted off of ZvP being a pretty imbalanced matchup (and sOs/Zest not being great at it) and INno being really bad form. She's gotten very lucky to only play one terran in all of her major offline outings, I really do think she's quite bad at the matchup right now.
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On March 09 2018 19:22 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah i don't think you can call Scarlett getting here a "fluke" she was doing very well in that period showing why she was able to win IEM Winter Olympics tourney. Just now maybe travel and what not is catching up with her and ZvZ is a bad match up.
Isn’t that the definition of a fluke though? She had a little bit of a hot streak, usually she’s not an IEM winner or GSL ro8 quality player and now she’s cooled back down to her usual level over the past load of tournaments.
Don’t get me wrong, her streak was cool and all but I feel like you guys expect way too much out of her now.
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some solid bantz between Classic and Stats here
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It's impossible to not like Stats, he's just a good guy lol
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On March 09 2018 19:24 SatsuinoHado wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 19:21 Soularion wrote:On March 09 2018 19:21 FrkFrJss wrote:On March 09 2018 19:17 Soularion wrote:On March 09 2018 19:16 Muffloe wrote:On March 09 2018 19:10 Fyzar wrote:On March 09 2018 19:06 Morbidius wrote:
Lose 2 games to the best ZvZer inthe world, and suddenly she's considered garbage? Cheese a couple games and suddenly she’s considered best foreigner? Same logic applies tbh. if u can get ro8 gsl by cheesing a couple of games, then sign me up tbf she got ro8 gsl by beating billowy and 3 hugely slumping players. This has to be one of the all-time worst Ro8 runs, knowing what we know now about INno and Rogue's form. soO's run, to be far, wasn't all that much more impressive. He beat NoRegreT and Zest and then beat aLive twice. Yea but at least he faced Dark so he got to be a #2 seed. There is always chance to go deep with mostly "cheeses" but at the end of the day lets see if this repeats or not cause one time RO8 is "cheese" but if this repeats its on the players to not let cheesy player to beat them
I do think people are overblowing how much cheese Scarlett really used to get from the ro16 to the ro8. 1 very precise build designed to catch Innovation off guard + 1 cheese. vs Zest, 1 loss, 1 cheese win, 1 macro game win.
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Canada2764 Posts
On March 09 2018 19:27 FrkFrJss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 19:24 SatsuinoHado wrote:On March 09 2018 19:21 Soularion wrote:On March 09 2018 19:21 FrkFrJss wrote:On March 09 2018 19:17 Soularion wrote:On March 09 2018 19:16 Muffloe wrote:On March 09 2018 19:10 Fyzar wrote:On March 09 2018 19:06 Morbidius wrote:
Lose 2 games to the best ZvZer inthe world, and suddenly she's considered garbage? Cheese a couple games and suddenly she’s considered best foreigner? Same logic applies tbh. if u can get ro8 gsl by cheesing a couple of games, then sign me up tbf she got ro8 gsl by beating billowy and 3 hugely slumping players. This has to be one of the all-time worst Ro8 runs, knowing what we know now about INno and Rogue's form. soO's run, to be far, wasn't all that much more impressive. He beat NoRegreT and Zest and then beat aLive twice. Yea but at least he faced Dark so he got to be a #2 seed. There is always chance to go deep with mostly "cheeses" but at the end of the day lets see if this repeats or not cause one time RO8 is "cheese" but if this repeats its on the players to not let cheesy player to beat them I do think people are overblowing how much cheese Scarlett really used to get from the ro16 to the ro8. 1 very precise build designed to catch Innovation off guard + 1 cheese. vs Zest, 1 loss, 1 cheese win, 1 macro game win.
So basically, out of 4 games, the only macro game she won was in a broken matchup against a player who is proven to be terrible at that matchup?
Yeah, seems about right.
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On March 09 2018 19:28 Soularion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 19:27 FrkFrJss wrote:On March 09 2018 19:24 SatsuinoHado wrote:On March 09 2018 19:21 Soularion wrote:On March 09 2018 19:21 FrkFrJss wrote:On March 09 2018 19:17 Soularion wrote:On March 09 2018 19:16 Muffloe wrote:On March 09 2018 19:10 Fyzar wrote:On March 09 2018 19:06 Morbidius wrote:
Lose 2 games to the best ZvZer inthe world, and suddenly she's considered garbage? Cheese a couple games and suddenly she’s considered best foreigner? Same logic applies tbh. if u can get ro8 gsl by cheesing a couple of games, then sign me up tbf she got ro8 gsl by beating billowy and 3 hugely slumping players. This has to be one of the all-time worst Ro8 runs, knowing what we know now about INno and Rogue's form. soO's run, to be far, wasn't all that much more impressive. He beat NoRegreT and Zest and then beat aLive twice. Yea but at least he faced Dark so he got to be a #2 seed. There is always chance to go deep with mostly "cheeses" but at the end of the day lets see if this repeats or not cause one time RO8 is "cheese" but if this repeats its on the players to not let cheesy player to beat them I do think people are overblowing how much cheese Scarlett really used to get from the ro16 to the ro8. 1 very precise build designed to catch Innovation off guard + 1 cheese. vs Zest, 1 loss, 1 cheese win, 1 macro game win. So basically, out of 4 games, the only macro game she won was in a broken matchup against a player who is proven to be terrible at that matchup? Yeah, seems about right.
It's actually a little hilarious how lost Zest is in pvz right now
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On March 09 2018 19:28 Soularion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 19:27 FrkFrJss wrote:On March 09 2018 19:24 SatsuinoHado wrote:On March 09 2018 19:21 Soularion wrote:On March 09 2018 19:21 FrkFrJss wrote:On March 09 2018 19:17 Soularion wrote:On March 09 2018 19:16 Muffloe wrote:On March 09 2018 19:10 Fyzar wrote:On March 09 2018 19:06 Morbidius wrote:
Lose 2 games to the best ZvZer inthe world, and suddenly she's considered garbage? Cheese a couple games and suddenly she’s considered best foreigner? Same logic applies tbh. if u can get ro8 gsl by cheesing a couple of games, then sign me up tbf she got ro8 gsl by beating billowy and 3 hugely slumping players. This has to be one of the all-time worst Ro8 runs, knowing what we know now about INno and Rogue's form. soO's run, to be far, wasn't all that much more impressive. He beat NoRegreT and Zest and then beat aLive twice. Yea but at least he faced Dark so he got to be a #2 seed. There is always chance to go deep with mostly "cheeses" but at the end of the day lets see if this repeats or not cause one time RO8 is "cheese" but if this repeats its on the players to not let cheesy player to beat them I do think people are overblowing how much cheese Scarlett really used to get from the ro16 to the ro8. 1 very precise build designed to catch Innovation off guard + 1 cheese. vs Zest, 1 loss, 1 cheese win, 1 macro game win. So basically, out of 4 games, the only macro game she won was in a broken matchup against a player who is proven to be terrible at that matchup? Yeah, seems about right.
Does that even matter? If one player is better he should play aggressive and win games from there. No problem to be a few workers behind instead of getting rekt.
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Austria24417 Posts
I'm expecting Classic to roll Stats
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Austria24417 Posts
On March 09 2018 19:29 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 19:28 Soularion wrote:On March 09 2018 19:27 FrkFrJss wrote:On March 09 2018 19:24 SatsuinoHado wrote:On March 09 2018 19:21 Soularion wrote:On March 09 2018 19:21 FrkFrJss wrote:On March 09 2018 19:17 Soularion wrote:On March 09 2018 19:16 Muffloe wrote:On March 09 2018 19:10 Fyzar wrote:On March 09 2018 19:06 Morbidius wrote:
Lose 2 games to the best ZvZer inthe world, and suddenly she's considered garbage? Cheese a couple games and suddenly she’s considered best foreigner? Same logic applies tbh. if u can get ro8 gsl by cheesing a couple of games, then sign me up tbf she got ro8 gsl by beating billowy and 3 hugely slumping players. This has to be one of the all-time worst Ro8 runs, knowing what we know now about INno and Rogue's form. soO's run, to be far, wasn't all that much more impressive. He beat NoRegreT and Zest and then beat aLive twice. Yea but at least he faced Dark so he got to be a #2 seed. There is always chance to go deep with mostly "cheeses" but at the end of the day lets see if this repeats or not cause one time RO8 is "cheese" but if this repeats its on the players to not let cheesy player to beat them I do think people are overblowing how much cheese Scarlett really used to get from the ro16 to the ro8. 1 very precise build designed to catch Innovation off guard + 1 cheese. vs Zest, 1 loss, 1 cheese win, 1 macro game win. So basically, out of 4 games, the only macro game she won was in a broken matchup against a player who is proven to be terrible at that matchup? Yeah, seems about right. It's actually a little hilarious how lost Zest is in pvz right now
I totally get it though
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On March 09 2018 19:30 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 19:28 Soularion wrote:On March 09 2018 19:27 FrkFrJss wrote:On March 09 2018 19:24 SatsuinoHado wrote:On March 09 2018 19:21 Soularion wrote:On March 09 2018 19:21 FrkFrJss wrote:On March 09 2018 19:17 Soularion wrote:On March 09 2018 19:16 Muffloe wrote:On March 09 2018 19:10 Fyzar wrote:On March 09 2018 19:06 Morbidius wrote:
Lose 2 games to the best ZvZer inthe world, and suddenly she's considered garbage? Cheese a couple games and suddenly she’s considered best foreigner? Same logic applies tbh. if u can get ro8 gsl by cheesing a couple of games, then sign me up tbf she got ro8 gsl by beating billowy and 3 hugely slumping players. This has to be one of the all-time worst Ro8 runs, knowing what we know now about INno and Rogue's form. soO's run, to be far, wasn't all that much more impressive. He beat NoRegreT and Zest and then beat aLive twice. Yea but at least he faced Dark so he got to be a #2 seed. There is always chance to go deep with mostly "cheeses" but at the end of the day lets see if this repeats or not cause one time RO8 is "cheese" but if this repeats its on the players to not let cheesy player to beat them I do think people are overblowing how much cheese Scarlett really used to get from the ro16 to the ro8. 1 very precise build designed to catch Innovation off guard + 1 cheese. vs Zest, 1 loss, 1 cheese win, 1 macro game win. So basically, out of 4 games, the only macro game she won was in a broken matchup against a player who is proven to be terrible at that matchup? Yeah, seems about right. Does that even matter? If one player is better he should play aggressive and win games from there. No problem to be a few workers behind instead of getting rekt.
No, as we all know if you win with aggressive builds it just means your worse. Good players only play honourable macro games 
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That'll all the SC2 ill watch for this year. Was fun.
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