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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-04 13:08:13
March 04 2018 13:07 GMT
#701
On March 04 2018 22:07 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 22:04 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 04 2018 22:02 Fango wrote:
On March 04 2018 22:01 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:58 Fango wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:55 Zaros wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:54 Fango wrote:
The first two games were so sick from Maru then he loses to 3 all-ins.


How was that last game all in? 5x bases maxed out...


Making 60 lings then spending all your money on banes before a-moving through the terrans base feels very alliny


Lol, he had 90 drones... His 1000000 bling "allin" did damage but did not end the game. And he immediately remaxed his army. That is as far from an all-in as it gets


If he didn't do game ending damage (which he did) he would have lost the game. So yes it's an all-in.


:D :D :D okay


You actually think rogue transitions there of he didn't do that much damage? He put everything into making banes


You missed his remax then
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 04 2018 13:08 GMT
#702
On March 04 2018 22:07 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 22:04 Fango wrote:
On March 04 2018 22:02 Zaros wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote:
Whenever players show ridiculous skill then lose to unscounted all-ins is actually one of the saddest things to watch


If Maru could learn to build a wall he wouldn't have lost to nydus, he let rogue get out of control game 5, game 3 maybe you have a point


The point is I value skill more than luck/coinflips. Rogue winning with all-ins feels lucky, his games themselves weren't very impressive

Maru won both of his games with all-ins too

whenever I play I always all in because I'm all in it to win it
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Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
March 04 2018 13:08 GMT
#703
On March 04 2018 22:04 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 22:02 Zaros wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote:
Whenever players show ridiculous skill then lose to unscounted all-ins is actually one of the saddest things to watch


If Maru could learn to build a wall he wouldn't have lost to nydus, he let rogue get out of control game 5, game 3 maybe you have a point


The point is I value skill more than luck/coinflips. Rogue winning with all-ins feels lucky, his games themselves weren't very impressive

One of Maru’s wins was double proxyrax, how is that more “impressive or skillful” than what Rogue did..
It appears I have been chosen.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
March 04 2018 13:08 GMT
#704
On March 04 2018 22:05 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 22:04 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:58 Fango wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:55 Zaros wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:54 Fango wrote:
The first two games were so sick from Maru then he loses to 3 all-ins.


How was that last game all in? 5x bases maxed out...


Making 60 lings then spending all your money on banes before a-moving through the terrans base feels very alliny

"A-moving"

The bias is strong with this one. :')

Keep being salty.


I don't mean he literally a moved and took his hands of the keyboard... He ran completely over the terran army

Turns out you can't just let Zerg get 5 bases uncontested, who knew? And that even wouldn't have happened if Maru actually protected his tanks from being sniped instead of leaving them open like that... And 4th game Maru wouldn't lose to a Nydus if he knew how to fucking wall-in.

Do you see that these small mistakes cost you the game, and it is not some huge imbalance happening...?
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 04 2018 13:09 GMT
#705
On March 04 2018 22:04 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 22:02 Zaros wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote:
Whenever players show ridiculous skill then lose to unscounted all-ins is actually one of the saddest things to watch


If Maru could learn to build a wall he wouldn't have lost to nydus, he let rogue get out of control game 5, game 3 maybe you have a point


The point is I value skill more than luck/coinflips. Rogue winning with all-ins feels lucky, his games themselves weren't very impressive


I agree with you but youre crying on the wrong grave here. Rogue is the best late game Zerg, only Dark is close or equal to him in this. The fact that he does cheese or crazy mind game strats as well just makes him so much more fun and so much stronger and harder to play against.
I think its part of the skill to recognize weaknesses in his opponents and exploit them when possible, although you would be more than capable playing the macro game with them as well.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12991 Posts
March 04 2018 13:09 GMT
#706
On March 04 2018 22:03 DieuCure wrote:
7 premier tournament without a terran in finals, how many can we get ?

Well at least we had a terran in semi
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16084 Posts
March 04 2018 13:09 GMT
#707
On March 04 2018 22:08 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 22:04 Fango wrote:
On March 04 2018 22:02 Zaros wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote:
Whenever players show ridiculous skill then lose to unscounted all-ins is actually one of the saddest things to watch


If Maru could learn to build a wall he wouldn't have lost to nydus, he let rogue get out of control game 5, game 3 maybe you have a point


The point is I value skill more than luck/coinflips. Rogue winning with all-ins feels lucky, his games themselves weren't very impressive

One of Maru’s wins was double proxyrax, how is that more “impressive or skillful” than what Rogue did..

the other game was a 200 supply Marine Tank Ghost Liberator all-in
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 04 2018 13:09 GMT
#708
On March 04 2018 22:08 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 22:04 Fango wrote:
On March 04 2018 22:02 Zaros wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote:
Whenever players show ridiculous skill then lose to unscounted all-ins is actually one of the saddest things to watch


If Maru could learn to build a wall he wouldn't have lost to nydus, he let rogue get out of control game 5, game 3 maybe you have a point


The point is I value skill more than luck/coinflips. Rogue winning with all-ins feels lucky, his games themselves weren't very impressive

One of Maru’s wins was double proxyrax, how is that more “impressive or skillful” than what Rogue did..


Well, it was really close + amazing plays + hold, Rogue won on blackpink with a big roach allin, a nydus, ...
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-04 13:09:48
March 04 2018 13:09 GMT
#709
After all the years, I still refuse to believe that Classic is not a fraud, so it should be an easy win for Rogue
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 04 2018 13:09 GMT
#710
On March 04 2018 22:07 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 22:04 Fango wrote:
On March 04 2018 22:02 Zaros wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote:
Whenever players show ridiculous skill then lose to unscounted all-ins is actually one of the saddest things to watch


If Maru could learn to build a wall he wouldn't have lost to nydus, he let rogue get out of control game 5, game 3 maybe you have a point


The point is I value skill more than luck/coinflips. Rogue winning with all-ins feels lucky, his games themselves weren't very impressive

Maru won both of his games with all-ins too


The first game he only went all-in at the very end and rogue knew what was going on. Very different to an unscounted nydus rush or roach allin
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 04 2018 13:10 GMT
#711
I hope classic wins 4-0 now, we need our protoss bonjwa in starcraft
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 04 2018 13:10 GMT
#712
On March 04 2018 22:09 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 22:03 DieuCure wrote:
7 premier tournament without a terran in finals, how many can we get ?

Well at least we had a terran in semi

Maybe Terran players should try getting gud
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 04 2018 13:11 GMT
#713
SC4 when
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
March 04 2018 13:11 GMT
#714
On March 04 2018 22:11 Inflicted wrote:
SC4 when

After SC3.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-04 13:12:15
March 04 2018 13:11 GMT
#715
On March 04 2018 22:09 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 22:04 Fango wrote:
On March 04 2018 22:02 Zaros wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote:
Whenever players show ridiculous skill then lose to unscounted all-ins is actually one of the saddest things to watch


If Maru could learn to build a wall he wouldn't have lost to nydus, he let rogue get out of control game 5, game 3 maybe you have a point


The point is I value skill more than luck/coinflips. Rogue winning with all-ins feels lucky, his games themselves weren't very impressive


I agree with you but youre crying on the wrong grave here. Rogue is the best late game Zerg, only Dark is close or equal to him in this. The fact that he does cheese or crazy mind game strats as well just makes him so much more fun and so much stronger and harder to play against.
I think its part of the skill to recognize weaknesses in his opponents and exploit them when possible, although you would be more than capable playing the macro game with them as well.


Rogue literally just said on the stage that he knew he would get destroyed if he tried to play a macro game against Maru, that's why he went for the coinflips.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 04 2018 13:11 GMT
#716
On March 04 2018 22:07 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 22:04 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 04 2018 22:02 Fango wrote:
On March 04 2018 22:01 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:58 Fango wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:55 Zaros wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:54 Fango wrote:
The first two games were so sick from Maru then he loses to 3 all-ins.


How was that last game all in? 5x bases maxed out...


Making 60 lings then spending all your money on banes before a-moving through the terrans base feels very alliny


Lol, he had 90 drones... His 1000000 bling "allin" did damage but did not end the game. And he immediately remaxed his army. That is as far from an all-in as it gets


If he didn't do game ending damage (which he did) he would have lost the game. So yes it's an all-in.


:D :D :D okay


You actually think rogue transitions there if he didn't do that much damage? He put everything into making banes


Why transition? He was so far ahead that he could afford to keep on "A-moving" tons of banes to Marus bases. If someone has 90 drones, 70 banes or so, and a hive with 6 hatches its never an allin, so stop it already
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
March 04 2018 13:11 GMT
#717
On March 04 2018 22:11 Inflicted wrote:
SC4 when

After SC2:R
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 04 2018 13:12 GMT
#718
WC4 confirmed
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 04 2018 13:12 GMT
#719
On March 04 2018 22:11 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 22:11 Inflicted wrote:
SC4 when

After SC3.


SC3 when ?
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 04 2018 13:12 GMT
#720
Console skins!
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