On March 04 2018 21:54 Fango wrote: The first two games were so sick from Maru then he loses to 3 all-ins.
How was that last game all in? 5x bases maxed out...
Making 60 lings then spending all your money on banes before a-moving through the terrans base feels very alliny
Lol, he had 90 drones... His 1000000 bling "allin" did damage but did not end the game. And he immediately remaxed his army. That is as far from an all-in as it gets
If he didn't do game ending damage (which he did) he would have lost the game. So yes it's an all-in.
:D :D :D okay
You actually think rogue transitions there of he didn't do that much damage? He put everything into making banes
On March 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote: Whenever players show ridiculous skill then lose to unscounted all-ins is actually one of the saddest things to watch
If Maru could learn to build a wall he wouldn't have lost to nydus, he let rogue get out of control game 5, game 3 maybe you have a point
The point is I value skill more than luck/coinflips. Rogue winning with all-ins feels lucky, his games themselves weren't very impressive
Maru won both of his games with all-ins too
whenever I play I always all in because I'm all in it to win it
On March 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote: Whenever players show ridiculous skill then lose to unscounted all-ins is actually one of the saddest things to watch
If Maru could learn to build a wall he wouldn't have lost to nydus, he let rogue get out of control game 5, game 3 maybe you have a point
The point is I value skill more than luck/coinflips. Rogue winning with all-ins feels lucky, his games themselves weren't very impressive
One of Maru’s wins was double proxyrax, how is that more “impressive or skillful” than what Rogue did..
On March 04 2018 21:54 Fango wrote: The first two games were so sick from Maru then he loses to 3 all-ins.
How was that last game all in? 5x bases maxed out...
Making 60 lings then spending all your money on banes before a-moving through the terrans base feels very alliny
"A-moving"
The bias is strong with this one. :')
Keep being salty.
I don't mean he literally a moved and took his hands of the keyboard... He ran completely over the terran army
Turns out you can't just let Zerg get 5 bases uncontested, who knew? And that even wouldn't have happened if Maru actually protected his tanks from being sniped instead of leaving them open like that... And 4th game Maru wouldn't lose to a Nydus if he knew how to fucking wall-in.
Do you see that these small mistakes cost you the game, and it is not some huge imbalance happening...?
On March 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote: Whenever players show ridiculous skill then lose to unscounted all-ins is actually one of the saddest things to watch
If Maru could learn to build a wall he wouldn't have lost to nydus, he let rogue get out of control game 5, game 3 maybe you have a point
The point is I value skill more than luck/coinflips. Rogue winning with all-ins feels lucky, his games themselves weren't very impressive
I agree with you but youre crying on the wrong grave here. Rogue is the best late game Zerg, only Dark is close or equal to him in this. The fact that he does cheese or crazy mind game strats as well just makes him so much more fun and so much stronger and harder to play against. I think its part of the skill to recognize weaknesses in his opponents and exploit them when possible, although you would be more than capable playing the macro game with them as well.
On March 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote: Whenever players show ridiculous skill then lose to unscounted all-ins is actually one of the saddest things to watch
If Maru could learn to build a wall he wouldn't have lost to nydus, he let rogue get out of control game 5, game 3 maybe you have a point
The point is I value skill more than luck/coinflips. Rogue winning with all-ins feels lucky, his games themselves weren't very impressive
One of Maru’s wins was double proxyrax, how is that more “impressive or skillful” than what Rogue did..
the other game was a 200 supply Marine Tank Ghost Liberator all-in
On March 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote: Whenever players show ridiculous skill then lose to unscounted all-ins is actually one of the saddest things to watch
If Maru could learn to build a wall he wouldn't have lost to nydus, he let rogue get out of control game 5, game 3 maybe you have a point
The point is I value skill more than luck/coinflips. Rogue winning with all-ins feels lucky, his games themselves weren't very impressive
One of Maru’s wins was double proxyrax, how is that more “impressive or skillful” than what Rogue did..
Well, it was really close + amazing plays + hold, Rogue won on blackpink with a big roach allin, a nydus, ...
On March 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote: Whenever players show ridiculous skill then lose to unscounted all-ins is actually one of the saddest things to watch
If Maru could learn to build a wall he wouldn't have lost to nydus, he let rogue get out of control game 5, game 3 maybe you have a point
The point is I value skill more than luck/coinflips. Rogue winning with all-ins feels lucky, his games themselves weren't very impressive
Maru won both of his games with all-ins too
The first game he only went all-in at the very end and rogue knew what was going on. Very different to an unscounted nydus rush or roach allin
On March 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote: Whenever players show ridiculous skill then lose to unscounted all-ins is actually one of the saddest things to watch
If Maru could learn to build a wall he wouldn't have lost to nydus, he let rogue get out of control game 5, game 3 maybe you have a point
The point is I value skill more than luck/coinflips. Rogue winning with all-ins feels lucky, his games themselves weren't very impressive
I agree with you but youre crying on the wrong grave here. Rogue is the best late game Zerg, only Dark is close or equal to him in this. The fact that he does cheese or crazy mind game strats as well just makes him so much more fun and so much stronger and harder to play against. I think its part of the skill to recognize weaknesses in his opponents and exploit them when possible, although you would be more than capable playing the macro game with them as well.
Rogue literally just said on the stage that he knew he would get destroyed if he tried to play a macro game against Maru, that's why he went for the coinflips.
On March 04 2018 21:54 Fango wrote: The first two games were so sick from Maru then he loses to 3 all-ins.
How was that last game all in? 5x bases maxed out...
Making 60 lings then spending all your money on banes before a-moving through the terrans base feels very alliny
Lol, he had 90 drones... His 1000000 bling "allin" did damage but did not end the game. And he immediately remaxed his army. That is as far from an all-in as it gets
If he didn't do game ending damage (which he did) he would have lost the game. So yes it's an all-in.
:D :D :D okay
You actually think rogue transitions there if he didn't do that much damage? He put everything into making banes
Why transition? He was so far ahead that he could afford to keep on "A-moving" tons of banes to Marus bases. If someone has 90 drones, 70 banes or so, and a hive with 6 hatches its never an allin, so stop it already