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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
February 06 2018 08:06 GMT
#501
On February 06 2018 17:05 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 17:04 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On February 06 2018 17:02 Durnuu wrote:
On February 06 2018 17:01 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On February 06 2018 17:00 Ej_ wrote:
On February 06 2018 17:00 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On February 06 2018 16:58 Ej_ wrote:
On February 06 2018 16:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On February 06 2018 16:57 pvsnp wrote:
Still think Bly could've won if he just went nydus instead of mutas


I agree but after game 4 he never was going to. The look on his face said it all. Dude was tilted as tilted could be

Calm down Wolf, if the spire hadn't been scouted you'd be saying how Bly bounced off the emotional disaster.


No I wouldn't, I said from the beginning he was tilted off the planet and was going to lose in a macro game. He was never going to cheese in this map after game 4. Ever

2 base muta is a cheese, not a macro build.


He built 7 mutas then threw down a 3rd hatch. That was pretty macro-y if you ask me.

2 base muta is definitely not a macro build, not since HOTS


Again he was building a 3rd while his mutas were popping out. I'm not saying its the most macro of macro builds but that was a macro game. We'll never know if that would have turned into a 2 base all in had the spire not been scouted but he definitely macroed out of it

if the spire doesn't get scouted, there is no ebay wall, no turrets, no mine production. mutas kill off scvs, pick off the tanks and the terran dies to a speedling rally


Or he does the build the same way he did and make 6-8 mutas and a 3rd, and keeps Major pinned down as he rushes to hive tech.

Theorycrafting is fun!
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
February 06 2018 08:09 GMT
#502
On February 06 2018 17:04 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 17:03 Tyrhanius wrote:
On February 06 2018 17:00 Ej_ wrote:
On February 06 2018 17:00 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On February 06 2018 16:58 Ej_ wrote:
On February 06 2018 16:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On February 06 2018 16:57 pvsnp wrote:
Still think Bly could've won if he just went nydus instead of mutas


I agree but after game 4 he never was going to. The look on his face said it all. Dude was tilted as tilted could be

Calm down Wolf, if the spire hadn't been scouted you'd be saying how Bly bounced off the emotional disaster.


No I wouldn't, I said from the beginning he was tilted off the planet and was going to lose in a macro game. He was never going to cheese in this map after game 4. Ever

2 base muta is a cheese, not a macro build.


That build has never worked on LOTV, could be good vs mech but it's a true gamble

You should tweet that at Bly so he never makes the same mistake of using it.

Bly is so unpredictible because himself doesn't really know what he is doing.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
February 06 2018 08:19 GMT
#503
On February 06 2018 17:06 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 17:04 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On February 06 2018 17:02 Durnuu wrote:
On February 06 2018 17:01 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On February 06 2018 17:00 Ej_ wrote:
On February 06 2018 17:00 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On February 06 2018 16:58 Ej_ wrote:
On February 06 2018 16:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On February 06 2018 16:57 pvsnp wrote:
Still think Bly could've won if he just went nydus instead of mutas


I agree but after game 4 he never was going to. The look on his face said it all. Dude was tilted as tilted could be

Calm down Wolf, if the spire hadn't been scouted you'd be saying how Bly bounced off the emotional disaster.


No I wouldn't, I said from the beginning he was tilted off the planet and was going to lose in a macro game. He was never going to cheese in this map after game 4. Ever

2 base muta is a cheese, not a macro build.


He built 7 mutas then threw down a 3rd hatch. That was pretty macro-y if you ask me.

2 base muta is definitely not a macro build, not since HOTS


Again he was building a 3rd while his mutas were popping out. I'm not saying its the most macro of macro builds but that was a macro game. We'll never know if that would have turned into a 2 base all in had the spire not been scouted but he definitely macroed out of it

By that logic proxy 2 rax in TvZ is not a cheese but a macro build because Terran can macro even if Zerg holds it off.

Proxy 2 rax isn't meant to kill whereas 2base muta is so not the best comparison out there
WriterMaru
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
February 06 2018 08:21 GMT
#504
Byun won the handshake but Maru won at Starcraft? ; )
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
February 06 2018 08:27 GMT
#505
Am I the only one that loves 1080p? Finally we can see stuff on the screen xD
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
February 06 2018 08:31 GMT
#506
On February 06 2018 17:27 Nerchio wrote:
Am I the only one that loves 1080p? Finally we can see stuff on the screen xD


Don't work for me T_T

Also Leenock and Scarlett must be quite pleased to see Zest form in PvZ (even if Elazer is really strong)
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-06 08:34:47
February 06 2018 08:34 GMT
#507
On February 06 2018 17:31 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 17:27 Nerchio wrote:
Am I the only one that loves 1080p? Finally we can see stuff on the screen xD


Don't work for me T_T

Also Leenock and Scarlett must be quite pleased to see Zest form in PvZ (even if Elazer is really strong)

And Elazer even said he played suboptimally today. So yeah, Zest really needs to get his shit together.
why even
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
February 06 2018 09:12 GMT
#508
I haven't really followed this tour, it's during the Olympics? And that's why it's got this shitty time slot?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
February 06 2018 09:19 GMT
#509
Wow, an expert!
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
February 06 2018 09:27 GMT
#510
On February 06 2018 17:27 Nerchio wrote:
Am I the only one that loves 1080p? Finally we can see stuff on the screen xD

I don't care tbh. Always managed to see everything even on 480p.
why even
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
February 06 2018 09:28 GMT
#511
Haha, Maru proxied again?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
February 06 2018 09:34 GMT
#512
Kind of shitty defence there, if Maru had repaired the tank and attacked with the other SCV:s he would have held.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
February 06 2018 09:36 GMT
#513
On February 06 2018 18:27 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 17:27 Nerchio wrote:
Am I the only one that loves 1080p? Finally we can see stuff on the screen xD

I don't care tbh. Always managed to see everything even on 480p.

True starcraft fans watch on 160p, out of nostalgia
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
February 06 2018 09:43 GMT
#514
On February 06 2018 18:36 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 18:27 D-light wrote:
On February 06 2018 17:27 Nerchio wrote:
Am I the only one that loves 1080p? Finally we can see stuff on the screen xD

I don't care tbh. Always managed to see everything even on 480p.

True starcraft fans watch on 160p, out of nostalgia


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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 06 2018 09:48 GMT
#515
On February 06 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:
Why do people consider this an upset? Serral is a foreigner. Scarlett is a GSL ro16 player who recently beat the world champion.
Guess reaching 10k MMR on the EU server isn't that impressive. Scarlett was #3 on KR last time I checked which is much more impressive.

And Serral was #1 on KR at one point :D
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-06 10:08:35
February 06 2018 10:08 GMT
#516
On February 06 2018 18:48 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:
Why do people consider this an upset? Serral is a foreigner. Scarlett is a GSL ro16 player who recently beat the world champion.
Guess reaching 10k MMR on the EU server isn't that impressive. Scarlett was #3 on KR last time I checked which is much more impressive.

And Serral was #1 on KR at one point :D

Scarlett shown an absolute horrid form, after she managed to upset Rogue in the GSL qualifiers. Went like 0-567685 against Neeb and protoss in general, and lost to every half-decent terran as well.
Watched the series where Khelazur 3-0d her.
The only good matchup for Scarlett lately is ZvZ, and she was eliminated in ro32 at WCS in an all zerg group.

And it's not even the fact that she keeps getting knocked off, the games are all "well let s see if i can blindcounter or allin my opponent, well it looks like he went for something else than i tought he would, gg then". Watched about 20 scarlett games in the past few weeks, lots of early gg-s because she just made 60 drones and died to 5 hellbats or went allin on lings and the other guy managed to make a wall. Granted, most of the wins against high tier opponents were also ling-floods

Im persoanlly quite sad that Serral was eliminated by Scarlett
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
February 06 2018 10:11 GMT
#517
On February 06 2018 16:26 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 16:25 Ej_ wrote:
Shitty ravager build is 12pool ravager, not proxy hatchery.

Shitty ravager build has variants, sometimes it has 2 lings, sometimes a proxy hatch, sometimes both.

Proxy hatch ravager is the good version of the build so it's not shitty
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
February 06 2018 10:14 GMT
#518
On February 06 2018 19:08 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 18:48 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On February 06 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:
Why do people consider this an upset? Serral is a foreigner. Scarlett is a GSL ro16 player who recently beat the world champion.
Guess reaching 10k MMR on the EU server isn't that impressive. Scarlett was #3 on KR last time I checked which is much more impressive.

And Serral was #1 on KR at one point :D

Scarlett shown an absolute horrid form, after she managed to upset Rogue in the GSL qualifiers. Went like 0-567685 against Neeb and protoss in general, and lost to every half-decent terran as well.
Watched the series where Khelazur 3-0d her.
The only good matchup for Scarlett lately is ZvZ, and she was eliminated in ro32 at WCS in an all zerg group.

And it's not even the fact that she keeps getting knocked off, the games are all "well let s see if i can blindcounter or allin my opponent, well it looks like he went for something else than i tought he would, gg then". Watched about 20 scarlett games in the past few weeks, lots of early gg-s because she just made 60 drones and died to 5 hellbats or went allin on lings and the other guy managed to make a wall. Granted, most of the wins against high tier opponents were also ling-floods

Im persoanlly quite sad that Serral was eliminated by Scarlett

She lost in WCS because she was jetlagged otherwise she would have swept the tournament like every GSL ro16 player would've done
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
February 06 2018 10:22 GMT
#519
Not surpised that scarlett won, I still have that old "gsl weighs heavy" mindset
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-06 10:30:40
February 06 2018 10:30 GMT
#520
On February 06 2018 19:14 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 19:08 Geo.Rion wrote:
On February 06 2018 18:48 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On February 06 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:
Why do people consider this an upset? Serral is a foreigner. Scarlett is a GSL ro16 player who recently beat the world champion.
Guess reaching 10k MMR on the EU server isn't that impressive. Scarlett was #3 on KR last time I checked which is much more impressive.

And Serral was #1 on KR at one point :D

Scarlett shown an absolute horrid form, after she managed to upset Rogue in the GSL qualifiers. Went like 0-567685 against Neeb and protoss in general, and lost to every half-decent terran as well.
Watched the series where Khelazur 3-0d her.
The only good matchup for Scarlett lately is ZvZ, and she was eliminated in ro32 at WCS in an all zerg group.

And it's not even the fact that she keeps getting knocked off, the games are all "well let s see if i can blindcounter or allin my opponent, well it looks like he went for something else than i tought he would, gg then". Watched about 20 scarlett games in the past few weeks, lots of early gg-s because she just made 60 drones and died to 5 hellbats or went allin on lings and the other guy managed to make a wall. Granted, most of the wins against high tier opponents were also ling-floods

Im persoanlly quite sad that Serral was eliminated by Scarlett

She lost in WCS because she was jetlagged otherwise she would have swept the tournament like every GSL ro16 player would've done

uhumm, not sure there s any point in replying to you, since obviously you re a stray from an other dimension or a blatant troll, but pray tell why did scarlett go 0-5 against khelazor and 1-5 against Neeb just at WESG just a couple of days ago
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