• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:16
CEST 01:16
KST 08:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO8 Preview: ByuN, Rogue, herO, Cure3[ASL19] Ro4 Preview: Storied Rivals7Code S RO12 Preview: Maru, Trigger, Rogue, NightMare12Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, sOs, Reynor, Solar15[ASL19] Ro8 Preview: Unyielding3
Community News
Dark to begin military service on May 13th (2025)20Weekly Cups (May 5-11): New 2v2 Champs1Maru & Rogue GSL RO12 interviews: "I think the pressure really got to [trigger]"5Code S Season 1 - Maru & Rogue advance to RO80Code S Season 1 - Cure & Reynor advance to RO84
StarCraft 2
General
Dark to begin military service on May 13th (2025) Official Ladder Map Pool Update (April 28, 2025) 2024/25 Off-Season Roster Moves Code S RO8 Preview: ByuN, Rogue, herO, Cure I hope balance council is prepping final balance
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S:Season 1 - RO12 - Group B Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Monday Nights Weeklies [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 1 - RO12 - Group A
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat Mutation # 471 Delivery Guaranteed Mutation # 470 Certain Demise
Brood War
General
ASL 19 Tickets for foreigners BW General Discussion BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site [ASL19] Ro4 Preview: Storied Rivals
Tourneys
[ASL19] Semifinal A [ASL19] Semifinal B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues BSL Nation Wars 2 - Grand Finals - Saturday 21:00
Strategy
[G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Creating a full chart of Zerg builds [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Grand Theft Auto VI Nintendo Switch Thread What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Iraq & Syrian Civil Wars UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Books] Wool by Hugh Howey
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Why 5v5 Games Keep Us Hooked…
TrAiDoS
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
BW PvZ Balance hypothetic…
Vasoline73
Racial Distribution over MMR …
Navane
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 15940 users

WeSG 2017 APAC Qualifier - Page 5

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10044 Posts
January 14 2018 03:57 GMT
#81
hehehe T_T and that was a good defense setup :/
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-14 03:59:06
January 14 2018 03:58 GMT
#82
Really makes you wonder how Zest manages to lose all those PvTs.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 14 2018 03:59 GMT
#83
After a series like that I imagine Maru goes and immediately reads the balance patch notes again

"Only two more weeks.....only two more weeks....."
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
January 14 2018 03:59 GMT
#84
Wow that was very well balanced.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 14 2018 04:01 GMT
#85
On January 14 2018 12:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Really makes you wonder how Zest manages to lose all those PvTs.


He loves blink stalkers too much
Liquipedia"Expert"
KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
January 14 2018 04:02 GMT
#86
On January 14 2018 12:59 pvsnp wrote:
After a series like that I imagine Maru goes and immediately reads the balance patch notes again

"Only two more weeks.....only two more weeks....."

Where can we see those?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 14 2018 04:03 GMT
#87
I don't understand how top level protosses can lose to terran right now. A-moving up a ramp against mines+liberators and still winnning is cringeworthy
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-14 04:06:10
January 14 2018 04:04 GMT
#88
On January 14 2018 13:02 KappaKingPrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2018 12:59 pvsnp wrote:
After a series like that I imagine Maru goes and immediately reads the balance patch notes again

"Only two more weeks.....only two more weeks....."

Where can we see those?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/530066-community-update-january-12th
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-14 04:08:32
January 14 2018 04:06 GMT
#89
On January 14 2018 13:03 Fango wrote:
I don't understand how top level protosses can lose to terran right now. A-moving up a ramp against mines+liberators and still winnning is cringeworthy

Classic narrowly lost to Inno (2-3) in the IEM Katowice qualifiers. Aside from that he has lost 0 series against Terran since 4.0 happened.

Stats has also lost 0 series against Terran since 4.0 happened.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
January 14 2018 04:07 GMT
#90
Come on, this match doesn't even matter, both of them are qualified for the main event, so the only consequence of Maru's loss is that Protoss is going to be nerfed MORE into oblivion in the next patch, and Maru can take all the easy Chinese money once again.
engesser1
Profile Blog Joined December 2016
264 Posts
January 14 2018 04:07 GMT
#91
I'm pretty sure Team Balance, they've watched this and they are sorry.
Maru, he is the reason why i'm still playing and watching sc2
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
January 14 2018 04:12 GMT
#92
In the first two games I was like "Dude, don't 2-base all in every game".
Then the third game happened. 16 more days.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-14 04:21:38
January 14 2018 04:19 GMT
#93
On January 14 2018 13:07 yht9657 wrote:
Come on, this match doesn't even matter, both of them are qualified for the main event, so the only consequence of Maru's loss is that Protoss is going to be nerfed MORE into oblivion in the next patch, and Maru can take all the easy Chinese money once again.


Despite the production quality, there's still 18K for first place. Almost double that of IEM Shangai or Super Tournament
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-14 04:25:49
January 14 2018 04:24 GMT
#94
On January 14 2018 13:19 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2018 13:07 yht9657 wrote:
Come on, this match doesn't even matter, both of them are qualified for the main event, so the only consequence of Maru's loss is that Protoss is going to be nerfed MORE into oblivion in the next patch, and Maru can take all the easy Chinese money once again.


Despite the production quality, there's still 18K for first place. Almost double that of IEM Shangai or Super Tournament

I'm sure the players care (a lot) about the prize money, but I personally couldn't give a shit. It's not like I'm getting any money, nor will top Koreans like Maru starve if they don't win huge prizes. WESG and Pyeongchang are just a circus show.

Personally, I'm glad that the balance patch will drop in time for the GSL to get serious with the Ro16, and for IEM Katowice, the big tournaments that actually count for something in terms of skill.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 14 2018 04:29 GMT
#95
On January 14 2018 13:24 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2018 13:19 Fango wrote:
On January 14 2018 13:07 yht9657 wrote:
Come on, this match doesn't even matter, both of them are qualified for the main event, so the only consequence of Maru's loss is that Protoss is going to be nerfed MORE into oblivion in the next patch, and Maru can take all the easy Chinese money once again.


Despite the production quality, there's still 18K for first place. Almost double that of IEM Shangai or Super Tournament

I'm sure the players care (a lot) about the prize money, but I personally couldn't give a shit. It's not like I'm getting any money, nor will top Koreans like Maru starve if they don't win huge prizes. WESG and Pyeongchang are just a circus show.

Personally, I'm glad that the balance patch will drop in time for the GSL to get serious with the Ro16, and for IEM Katowice, the big tournaments that actually count for something in terms of skill.


True, but the idea that Maru doesn't lose out at all here is still wrong. And I'm hoping at least 2 balance patches before katowice at least
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 14 2018 04:31 GMT
#96
Classic is just a god. I'm not worried about anything
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
January 14 2018 04:35 GMT
#97
Such a shame no matter how many patches we get before the main event there's not gonna be a TVT final again, the OP races are literally stealing money from hard-working Terran players.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-14 04:37:24
January 14 2018 04:36 GMT
#98
On January 14 2018 13:29 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2018 13:24 pvsnp wrote:
On January 14 2018 13:19 Fango wrote:
On January 14 2018 13:07 yht9657 wrote:
Come on, this match doesn't even matter, both of them are qualified for the main event, so the only consequence of Maru's loss is that Protoss is going to be nerfed MORE into oblivion in the next patch, and Maru can take all the easy Chinese money once again.


Despite the production quality, there's still 18K for first place. Almost double that of IEM Shangai or Super Tournament

I'm sure the players care (a lot) about the prize money, but I personally couldn't give a shit. It's not like I'm getting any money, nor will top Koreans like Maru starve if they don't win huge prizes. WESG and Pyeongchang are just a circus show.

Personally, I'm glad that the balance patch will drop in time for the GSL to get serious with the Ro16, and for IEM Katowice, the big tournaments that actually count for something in terms of skill.


True, but the idea that Maru doesn't lose out at all here is still wrong. And I'm hoping at least 2 balance patches before katowice at least

Well, the balance patch goes live on January 29.

On January 31, 2017 the Liberator was nerfed following the 3.8 balance issues in PvT. The next nerf (for WM) did not go live until March 7, after Katowice 2017 was finished. Judging by that schedule, I'd guess that we will know the contents of the next balance patch before Katowice 2018, but it will not yet be live.

And who knows where the meta will be by then? The Stalker nerf will certainly help Terrans out, and I for one hope that it will be enough.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States276 Posts
January 14 2018 05:15 GMT
#99
Btw, about Has, I found a song for him:

The Has (from The Fox)

Dark goes slow,
Byun three rax,
Shin Hyung driving and Maru splits.
herO smile,
soO hatch roach,
and the TY expand too much.
polt basetrade and Solar cheese,
and Reality build town hall.
But there's one build,
That no one knows,
What does the Has play?
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4029 Posts
January 14 2018 05:39 GMT
#100
Dark was super sloppy that game with engagements, glad TIME was able to punish that and take a map
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 44m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
JuggernautJason121
ProTech103
Ketroc 56
CosmosSc2 38
RuFF_SC2 29
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 848
Sexy 10
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm84
Counter-Strike
Foxcn1084
flusha440
Coldzera 153
Stewie2K96
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe95
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby3827
Khaldor163
Other Games
tarik_tv10062
summit1g6800
FrodaN1443
shahzam989
hungrybox792
ViBE181
Maynarde170
ToD170
C9.Mang0116
monkeys_forever74
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick755
StarCraft 2
ESL.tv136
Other Games
BasetradeTV135
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 42
• RyuSc2 38
• davetesta37
• Hupsaiya 23
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 19
• sM.Zik 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4569
• TFBlade1116
Other Games
• imaqtpie1896
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
44m
GSL Code S
10h 14m
Classic vs Reynor
GuMiho vs Maru
The PondCast
10h 44m
RSL Revival
23h 44m
GSL Code S
1d 10h
herO vs TBD
TBD vs Cure
OSC
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
SOOP
2 days
HeRoMaRinE vs Astrea
Online Event
3 days
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Percival vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Spirit
MaxPax vs Jumy
RSL Revival
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Nation Wars Season 2
PiG Sty Festival 6.0
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
ASL Season 19
YSL S1
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
China & Korea Top Challenge
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
2025 GSL S1
Heroes 10 EU
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21

Upcoming

NPSL S3
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
2025 GSL S2
DreamHack Dallas 2025
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.