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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 06 2018 04:25 GMT
#81
On January 06 2018 13:20 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 13:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 06 2018 13:13 Zzzapper wrote:
On January 06 2018 13:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 06 2018 13:07 Zzzapper wrote:
Rotational symmetry needs to die, half of the complaints people have about 4p maps are really about that and would be fixed with mirror symmetry


Frost has mirrored symmetry and yet has a bunch of problems...

Sure, it doesn't fix everything but the two main complaints I see about 4 player maps in general are positional imbalance and not knowing where you oppopnent starts. The first one is gone with mirror symmetry


You still end up with games decided by getting favourable or unfavourable spawns (since one player wants diagonal, and the other doesn't).

That's 4 player maps in general though, and it happens 1/3 games on mirror maps instead of every game. I'm not saying 4p maps are neccessarily great, just that mirror>rotational symmetry


For a 4 player mirrored map to work you have to design both horizontal and vertical to work separately which is a lot more awkward and likely to go wrong than sticking to rotational stuff imo. Not that I'm particularly a fan of either.
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
January 06 2018 04:25 GMT
#82
Inno is a brute. I am really hyped for his tvz.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
January 06 2018 04:25 GMT
#83
Losing one 150/150 unit shouldn't mean you automatically lose the game 4-5 minutes later after taking no other real damage.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
January 06 2018 04:25 GMT
#84
On January 06 2018 13:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 13:14 DieuCure wrote:
On January 06 2018 13:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I want that GSL Hoodie, where can I buy one?


You just have to qualify to code s

I have to do it with no team too. I can't even go full NoRegret because he's signed :/



Then go full Byun, it's even better
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
January 06 2018 04:26 GMT
#85
On January 06 2018 13:25 Boggyb wrote:
Losing one 150/150 unit shouldn't mean you automatically lose the game 4-5 minutes later after taking no other real damage.

Artosis also said last patch was great cause you could make widow mines faster.

They have to say a lot of things during a cast...
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
January 06 2018 04:27 GMT
#86
4 player map...
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 06 2018 04:27 GMT
#87
On January 06 2018 13:25 Boggyb wrote:
Losing one 150/150 unit shouldn't mean you automatically lose the game 4-5 minutes later after taking no other real damage.


While losing the oracle certainly isn't good I wouldn't ascribe the loss to that. It's more INno just being generally better than Creator.
breaker1328
Profile Joined March 2016
Canada295 Posts
January 06 2018 04:28 GMT
#88
I think I would prefer Darkness Sanctuary in the WCS ladder instead of Battle of the Boardwalk. Both are really great looking maps but I would like DS because 4 player maps on the 1v1 ladder are something that I miss from the old days when I played all of the time and also, selfishly, my pleb mind can not figure out PvAnything on BotB.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
January 06 2018 04:28 GMT
#89
On January 06 2018 13:25 Boggyb wrote:
Losing one 150/150 unit shouldn't mean you automatically lose the game 4-5 minutes later after taking no other real damage.

maybe the fact it was Creator playing vs INnoVation has more to do with that loss. herO/Stats can totally win after losing Oracles.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
January 06 2018 04:29 GMT
#90
On January 06 2018 13:28 breaker1328 wrote:
I think I would prefer Darkness Sanctuary in the WCS ladder instead of Battle of the Boardwalk. Both are really great looking maps but I would like DS because 4 player maps on the 1v1 ladder are something that I miss from the old days when I played all of the time and also, selfishly, my pleb mind can not figure out PvAnything on BotB.

I've never played a game on Battle of the Boardwalk tbh
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 06 2018 04:30 GMT
#91
On January 06 2018 13:28 breaker1328 wrote:
I think I would prefer Darkness Sanctuary in the WCS ladder instead of Battle of the Boardwalk. Both are really great looking maps but I would like DS because 4 player maps on the 1v1 ladder are something that I miss from the old days when I played all of the time and also, selfishly, my pleb mind can not figure out PvAnything on BotB.


Grab the gold no matter what, and hope to live long enough to outmoney them.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
January 06 2018 04:32 GMT
#92
nice Forcefield
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 06 2018 04:32 GMT
#93
Those WM hits were huge, won him the game
Denominator of the Universe
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 06 2018 04:32 GMT
#94
Poor Creator. If only the oracles had energy for the last fight
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
January 06 2018 04:32 GMT
#95
wow is Creator mediocre
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
January 06 2018 04:33 GMT
#96
Poor Creator...
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
January 06 2018 04:33 GMT
#97
Ouch poor creator
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1796 Posts
January 06 2018 04:33 GMT
#98
Creator must be made of literally anything because he got EATEN by the goat
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
January 06 2018 04:33 GMT
#99
INnoVation is a much better player than Creator, but I saw nothing from either of those games that justified how lopsided either of those games was.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
January 06 2018 04:33 GMT
#100
What a stomp
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