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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
November 11 2017 21:38 GMT
#381
On November 12 2017 06:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 06:32 Nakajin wrote:
On November 12 2017 06:27 Xamo wrote:
On November 12 2017 06:00 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 12 2017 05:58 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
On November 12 2017 05:58 Makro wrote:
full circle boys

bring back vortex


Does that help against 9 range neural parasite?

We need at least Wormhole Transit and Earth Cracker.

That is not enough... we need dark templars with blink!!


Ah men I still remember when everyone lost their mind over DT blink. And even now that I know that it suck I can't help to wonder how great it would have been if it was actually good.


It'd be pretty obnoxious if it was actually good I think. The fact that it's kinda fringe makes it cool.


Oh it would have been fucking obnoxious, that's where all the fun come from.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
November 11 2017 21:38 GMT
#382
On November 12 2017 06:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 06:32 Nakajin wrote:
On November 12 2017 06:27 Xamo wrote:
On November 12 2017 06:00 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 12 2017 05:58 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
On November 12 2017 05:58 Makro wrote:
full circle boys

bring back vortex


Does that help against 9 range neural parasite?

We need at least Wormhole Transit and Earth Cracker.

That is not enough... we need dark templars with blink!!


Ah men I still remember when everyone lost their mind over DT blink. And even now that I know that it suck I can't help to wonder how great it would have been if it was actually good.


It'd be pretty obnoxious if it was actually good I think. The fact that it's kinda fringe makes it cool.

It's not even bad late game, just overshadowed by a few better options.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 11 2017 21:40 GMT
#383
On November 12 2017 06:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 06:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 12 2017 06:32 Nakajin wrote:
On November 12 2017 06:27 Xamo wrote:
On November 12 2017 06:00 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 12 2017 05:58 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
On November 12 2017 05:58 Makro wrote:
full circle boys

bring back vortex


Does that help against 9 range neural parasite?

We need at least Wormhole Transit and Earth Cracker.

That is not enough... we need dark templars with blink!!


Ah men I still remember when everyone lost their mind over DT blink. And even now that I know that it suck I can't help to wonder how great it would have been if it was actually good.


It'd be pretty obnoxious if it was actually good I think. The fact that it's kinda fringe makes it cool.

It's not even bad late game, just overshadowed by a few better options.


It's a bit like Structure Armor where you get it late game, and it helps a little sometimes.
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
November 11 2017 21:44 GMT
#384
Dance hellions
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
November 11 2017 21:44 GMT
#385
The casting on the mainstream is a bit irritating.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 11 2017 21:44 GMT
#386
All of the raven's abilities sound like great support abilities, but in practice it hasn't looked too useful.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
November 11 2017 21:44 GMT
#387
Why did impact take the lowground third?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-11 21:46:47
November 11 2017 21:46 GMT
#388
On November 12 2017 06:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
All of the raven's abilities sound like great support abilities, but in practice it hasn't looked too useful.

I think they are useful, but is it worth to invest so much ressources into ravens for that?
If ravens were cheaper maybe
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 11 2017 21:47 GMT
#389
On November 12 2017 06:44 Solar424 wrote:
Why did impact take the lowground third?

If you do an aggressive push off it your reinforcements get there a little faster.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
November 11 2017 21:53 GMT
#390
On November 12 2017 06:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
All of the raven's abilities sound like great support abilities, but in practice it hasn't looked too useful.

In terms of abilities it's probably as close as it'll ever get to science vessels, but in terms of utility, it seems outclassed by other starport units in many ways.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 11 2017 21:54 GMT
#391
How long does Scrambler Missile last?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 11 2017 21:58 GMT
#392
On November 12 2017 06:53 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 06:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
All of the raven's abilities sound like great support abilities, but in practice it hasn't looked too useful.

In terms of abilities it's probably as close as it'll ever get to science vessels, but in terms of utility, it seems outclassed by other starport units in many ways.


All the abilities seem to have a pretty short window though or are narrow in application. For the science vessel if you hit an arbiter with an EMP it becomes a flying paperweight for ages. Irradiate is pretty versatile against zerg, can be used to take out key units, clear out mineral lines, push back mutas. Defense matrix has some nice utility. Compared to that the raven seems lackluster.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
November 11 2017 21:59 GMT
#393
that's why I never go reapers in tvt
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
November 11 2017 22:00 GMT
#394
Some of the players make really good casters, the ones on the couch right now make really bad ones
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 11 2017 22:03 GMT
#395
Interesting decision to base trade.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
November 11 2017 22:04 GMT
#396
completely fine completely fine

LOL
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 11 2017 22:04 GMT
#397
What was that uThermal...
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28525 Posts
November 11 2017 22:05 GMT
#398
some exquisite full foreinerses right there
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
November 11 2017 22:06 GMT
#399
On November 12 2017 06:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 06:53 Elentos wrote:
On November 12 2017 06:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
All of the raven's abilities sound like great support abilities, but in practice it hasn't looked too useful.

In terms of abilities it's probably as close as it'll ever get to science vessels, but in terms of utility, it seems outclassed by other starport units in many ways.


All the abilities seem to have a pretty short window though or are narrow in application. For the science vessel if you hit an arbiter with an EMP it becomes a flying paperweight for ages. Irradiate is pretty versatile against zerg, can be used to take out key units, clear out mineral lines, push back mutas. Defense matrix has some nice utility. Compared to that the raven seems lackluster.

Well in BW most abilities are kinda ridiculous. Imagine if blinding cloud lasted as long as dark swarm. And really I only meant by the general idea. Like scramble would ideally be like EMP, shredder missile would be irradiate and repair drone defense matrix. But shredder missile does no damage and scramble only lasts like 2 seconds.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
November 11 2017 22:07 GMT
#400
On November 12 2017 07:00 starkiller123 wrote:
Some of the players make really good casters, the ones on the couch right now make really bad ones

they were really funny
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