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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 10:48:32
September 29 2017 10:48 GMT
#121
On September 29 2017 19:45 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote:
This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him

He just got outplayed.


Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base.

g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous.

So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series?
Outplayed.


Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side.

That's literally what happened in game 3.
In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest

The very definition of 'outplay'

Zest got fuking rekt, no need to sugarcoat it
Faker is the GOAT!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 10:49 GMT
#122
On September 29 2017 19:45 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote:
This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him

He just got outplayed.


Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base.

g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous.

So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series?
Outplayed.


Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side.

That's literally what happened in game 3.
In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest


I said games 1 and 2 specifically.

In g2 herO was playing worse and got drastically behind, then went for double oracle and DTs, hoping that Zest's pheonixes would miss his oracles and that Zest didn't have detection. That's called a lucky comeback, it's a big risk, and the results are not repeatable in any way.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 10:50:57
September 29 2017 10:50 GMT
#123
On September 29 2017 19:49 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:45 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote:
This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him

He just got outplayed.


Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base.

g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous.

So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series?
Outplayed.


Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side.

That's literally what happened in game 3.
In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest


I said games 1 and 2 specifically.

In g2 herO was playing worse and got drastically behind, then went for double oracle and DTs, hoping that Zest's pheonixes would miss his oracles and that Zest didn't have detection. That's called a lucky comeback, it's a big risk, and the results are not repeatable in any way.

Was so lucky to plan all of that while Zest absolutely ignored such a possibility, right?

Eh the lucky 3-0 :/. Ro16 really needs bo7
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
September 29 2017 10:53 GMT
#124
does a pylon like that have a name?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 29 2017 10:54 GMT
#125
On September 29 2017 19:53 Penev wrote:
does a pylon like that have a name?


Artosis referred to it as a Tasteless pylon.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 29 2017 10:54 GMT
#126
Weird game.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
September 29 2017 10:55 GMT
#127
On September 29 2017 19:54 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:53 Penev wrote:
does a pylon like that have a name?


Artosis referred to it as a Tasteless pylon.

Forgetting that there is on-record historical evidence that Tasteless pylons are never alone.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 10:56:30
September 29 2017 10:56 GMT
#128
On September 29 2017 19:50 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:49 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:45 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote:
This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him

He just got outplayed.


Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base.

g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous.

So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series?
Outplayed.


Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side.

That's literally what happened in game 3.
In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest


I said games 1 and 2 specifically.

In g2 herO was playing worse and got drastically behind, then went for double oracle and DTs, hoping that Zest's pheonixes would miss his oracles and that Zest didn't have detection. That's called a lucky comeback, it's a big risk, and the results are not repeatable in any way.

Was so lucky to plan all of that while Zest absolutely ignored such a possibility, right?

Eh the lucky 3-0 :/. Ro16 really needs bo7


Well yeah, going for desperation oracles and DT is a game deciding risk. The results are not repeatable and entirely depend on where the opponents units happen to be and how many obvs they got. Hence it is luck dependant

g3 was Zest making mistakes while herO knew what he was doing. g1 wasn't far off a build order win for herO.

Did I say herO didn't deserve to win? Did I say it should be bo7? No. I just said that g1/2 were very lucky for herO, which they were.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
September 29 2017 10:56 GMT
#129
On September 29 2017 19:54 Diabolique wrote:
Weird game.

It was the most standard LotV sOs PvT you'll ever see. 2 base glaive adept all-in, add DTs if it doesn't work, add super late 3rd and lose if that doesn't work.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 10:56 GMT
#130
W O L F G A T E
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 29 2017 10:59 GMT
#131
These sOs rush strategies :-)
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 29 2017 10:59 GMT
#132
Wow such gameplay.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
September 29 2017 10:59 GMT
#133
P R O T O S S E D
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 11:00:05
September 29 2017 10:59 GMT
#134
This is the saltiest build to lose to
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
slimbo1
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany228 Posts
September 29 2017 11:01 GMT
#135
best protoss build to frustrate your opponent.
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
September 29 2017 11:01 GMT
#136
that's why we hate protoss
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 11:01 GMT
#137
On September 29 2017 19:59 Fango wrote:
This is the saltiest build to lose to

You haven't seen my patented proxy void ray in the terran natural
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 29 2017 11:02 GMT
#138
On September 29 2017 20:01 Gurbak wrote:
that's why we hate protoss

We didn;t ask for shooting pylons, I stopped playing for more than a year because of them
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
September 29 2017 11:02 GMT
#139
On September 29 2017 20:01 slimbo1 wrote:
best protoss build to frustrate your opponent.

Every Protoss build is the best one for that.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 11:03 GMT
#140
Btw if anyone plays on the test realm, stalkers now one-shot every terran unit/building and rush builds are the worst thing I've ever experienced
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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