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On September 29 2017 19:45 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote: This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him He just got outplayed. Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base. g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous. So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series? Outplayed. Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side. That's literally what happened in game 3. In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest  The very definition of 'outplay'
Zest got fuking rekt, no need to sugarcoat it
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On September 29 2017 19:45 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote: This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him He just got outplayed. Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base. g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous. So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series? Outplayed. Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side. That's literally what happened in game 3. In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest 
I said games 1 and 2 specifically.
In g2 herO was playing worse and got drastically behind, then went for double oracle and DTs, hoping that Zest's pheonixes would miss his oracles and that Zest didn't have detection. That's called a lucky comeback, it's a big risk, and the results are not repeatable in any way.
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On September 29 2017 19:49 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 19:45 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote: This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him He just got outplayed. Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base. g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous. So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series? Outplayed. Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side. That's literally what happened in game 3. In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest  I said games 1 and 2 specifically. In g2 herO was playing worse and got drastically behind, then went for double oracle and DTs, hoping that Zest's pheonixes would miss his oracles and that Zest didn't have detection. That's called a lucky comeback, it's a big risk, and the results are not repeatable in any way. Was so lucky to plan all of that while Zest absolutely ignored such a possibility, right?
Eh the lucky 3-0 :/. Ro16 really needs bo7
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does a pylon like that have a name?
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On September 29 2017 19:53 Penev wrote: does a pylon like that have a name?
Artosis referred to it as a Tasteless pylon.
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On September 29 2017 19:54 Phredxor wrote:Artosis referred to it as a Tasteless pylon. Forgetting that there is on-record historical evidence that Tasteless pylons are never alone.
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On September 29 2017 19:50 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 19:49 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:45 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote: This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him He just got outplayed. Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base. g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous. So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series? Outplayed. Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side. That's literally what happened in game 3. In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest  I said games 1 and 2 specifically. In g2 herO was playing worse and got drastically behind, then went for double oracle and DTs, hoping that Zest's pheonixes would miss his oracles and that Zest didn't have detection. That's called a lucky comeback, it's a big risk, and the results are not repeatable in any way. Was so lucky to plan all of that while Zest absolutely ignored such a possibility, right? Eh the lucky 3-0 :/. Ro16 really needs bo7
Well yeah, going for desperation oracles and DT is a game deciding risk. The results are not repeatable and entirely depend on where the opponents units happen to be and how many obvs they got. Hence it is luck dependant
g3 was Zest making mistakes while herO knew what he was doing. g1 wasn't far off a build order win for herO.
Did I say herO didn't deserve to win? Did I say it should be bo7? No. I just said that g1/2 were very lucky for herO, which they were.
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On September 29 2017 19:54 Diabolique wrote: Weird game. It was the most standard LotV sOs PvT you'll ever see. 2 base glaive adept all-in, add DTs if it doesn't work, add super late 3rd and lose if that doesn't work.
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These sOs rush strategies :-)
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This is the saltiest build to lose to
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best protoss build to frustrate your opponent.
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that's why we hate protoss
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On September 29 2017 19:59 Fango wrote: This is the saltiest build to lose to You haven't seen my patented proxy void ray in the terran natural
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On September 29 2017 20:01 Gurbak wrote: that's why we hate protoss We didn;t ask for shooting pylons, I stopped playing for more than a year because of them
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On September 29 2017 20:01 slimbo1 wrote: best protoss build to frustrate your opponent. Every Protoss build is the best one for that.
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Btw if anyone plays on the test realm, stalkers now one-shot every terran unit/building and rush builds are the worst thing I've ever experienced
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