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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-09 21:03:34
September 09 2017 21:00 GMT
#701
On September 10 2017 05:59 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2017 05:56 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:53 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:52 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:40 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:35 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:33 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:30 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:27 Shellshock wrote:
Manliest Race for not bitching

- Hide Spoiler [ Though they should whine more for buffs] -

Zerg

In the 35 premier tournaments held in 2014, only 8 were won by Zerg players. And yet despite that, Zerg players have been almost completely silent on the issue of balance. While this was going on, Rain called Terran the new BL/infestor at the beginning of the year: Protoss then went on to win 10/12 tournaments during the blink era, before blink, the mothership core, and the collective map pool were nerfed. This left Terran in a much stronger state than before, leaving Protoss players to rage about the "death" of HT/Chargelot, the myriad openings of Terran now that they weren't forced to go bio or die, or the SCV train (which I find strange since it's basically a Communist Soul Train). When they weren't complaining about Terran, they complained about swarmhosts or muta base trades. It all ended with ZParcraft 2 (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/460550-welcome-to-zparcraft-ii) and Protoss is sorry, Not! (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/444089-protoss-were-sorry-parody-of-south-parks-bp).

For their unending patience in not demanding nerfs to every other race, Zerg has been given the Manliest Race. Their award? More Terran buffs.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/477647-2014-stuchiu-awards#1

It doesn't help than whenever a Zerg player asks for buffs the response is usually, "LOL do you want Brood Lord/Infestor back? Do you want SC2 to die again?" It's only OK when Terran dominates.

when a terran asks for buffs it's "LOL you want GomTvT again", when a toss asks for buffs it's "LOL you want Blink era again".
No need to play the victim here.

I've never seen another race get called out for single-handidly killing the game like Zerg has. It's not Zerg's fault Blizzard doesn't know what they're doing.


Problem is, zerg have some imba, every time, so they abuse it, no one can beat it except one player every two seasons because of new strat, and zerg struggles because they stick to their strats

Zergs plays classic most of the time because they have more chance to win than their opponents in normal games.

If INno played that way against Dark it was because nobody could win hydra bane as bio

Same thing for Byun last year ...



Byun went 3 Rax Reaper every game because Zerg was OP?


Have you ever try to play against ultra in 2016 ?

I'm pretty sure Byun had the best Ghost micro at the time.

TY is the best ghost player. But you don't need ghosts if in the majority of the games you just push and kill them before hive.

MMM/Ghost/Liberator/Viking is really cool to watch but there's a reason it's the last resort for everyone except TY. Even right now, the Korean Terrans decided that mech was the better strategy for lategame TvZ
Denominator of the Universe
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
September 09 2017 21:00 GMT
#702
On September 10 2017 05:58 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2017 05:56 Charoisaur wrote:
DT's are my favourite unit

Mine is the mutalisk.

e: stop replying to the troll holy fuck

So the mine or the mutalisk?
why even
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
September 09 2017 21:01 GMT
#703
On September 10 2017 05:58 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2017 05:56 Charoisaur wrote:
DT's are my favourite unit

Mine is the mutalisk.

e: stop replying to the troll holy fuck

I bet you'd pay to get mutas carrying roaches.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 09 2017 21:01 GMT
#704
Scarlett please don't do something dumb this game >.>
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 09 2017 21:01 GMT
#705
On September 10 2017 05:59 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2017 05:58 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:54 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:53 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:52 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:40 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:35 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:33 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:30 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:27 Shellshock wrote:
[quote]

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/477647-2014-stuchiu-awards#1

It doesn't help than whenever a Zerg player asks for buffs the response is usually, "LOL do you want Brood Lord/Infestor back? Do you want SC2 to die again?" It's only OK when Terran dominates.

when a terran asks for buffs it's "LOL you want GomTvT again", when a toss asks for buffs it's "LOL you want Blink era again".
No need to play the victim here.

I've never seen another race get called out for single-handidly killing the game like Zerg has. It's not Zerg's fault Blizzard doesn't know what they're doing.


Problem is, zerg have some imba, every time, so they abuse it, no one can beat it except one player every two seasons because of new strat, and zerg struggles because they stick to their strats

Zergs plays classic most of the time because they have more chance to win than their opponents in normal games.

If INno played that way against Dark it was because nobody could win hydra bane as bio

Same thing for Byun last year ...



Byun went 3 Rax Reaper every game because Zerg was OP?


Have you ever try to play against ultra in 2016 ?

That 1 Korean Zerg who managed to live to hive sure was glad his ultras had 8 armor.


Well, a lot of bs from kr zergs last year.

And none of them tried to do something different.

I remember soO losing in the first 6 min against double drop vs Maru.

Or the full ravager strats

Or the mass nydus strats ( TRUE )

When terrans and protoss and Dark are trying to adapt they just play like AI

when they played standard they just died to 2/2 timing


But they was as much zerg as terran in top 8 Korea
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
September 09 2017 21:02 GMT
#706
On September 10 2017 06:01 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2017 05:59 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:58 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:54 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:53 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:52 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:40 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:35 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:33 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:30 Solar424 wrote:
[quote]
It doesn't help than whenever a Zerg player asks for buffs the response is usually, "LOL do you want Brood Lord/Infestor back? Do you want SC2 to die again?" It's only OK when Terran dominates.

when a terran asks for buffs it's "LOL you want GomTvT again", when a toss asks for buffs it's "LOL you want Blink era again".
No need to play the victim here.

I've never seen another race get called out for single-handidly killing the game like Zerg has. It's not Zerg's fault Blizzard doesn't know what they're doing.


Problem is, zerg have some imba, every time, so they abuse it, no one can beat it except one player every two seasons because of new strat, and zerg struggles because they stick to their strats

Zergs plays classic most of the time because they have more chance to win than their opponents in normal games.

If INno played that way against Dark it was because nobody could win hydra bane as bio

Same thing for Byun last year ...



Byun went 3 Rax Reaper every game because Zerg was OP?


Have you ever try to play against ultra in 2016 ?

That 1 Korean Zerg who managed to live to hive sure was glad his ultras had 8 armor.


Well, a lot of bs from kr zergs last year.

And none of them tried to do something different.

I remember soO losing in the first 6 min against double drop vs Maru.

Or the full ravager strats

Or the mass nydus strats ( TRUE )

When terrans and protoss and Dark are trying to adapt they just play like AI

when they played standard they just died to 2/2 timing


But they was as much zerg as terran in top 8 Korea

Did you know there's a 3rd race in Starcraft
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 09 2017 21:02 GMT
#707
On September 10 2017 06:01 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2017 05:58 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:56 Charoisaur wrote:
DT's are my favourite unit

Mine is the mutalisk.

e: stop replying to the troll holy fuck

I bet you'd pay to get mutas carrying roaches.

I dream every day of playing a 12 gas game vs mech on cross WW so I could do roach drops and mass muta.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 09 2017 21:02 GMT
#708
On September 10 2017 06:01 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2017 05:58 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:56 Charoisaur wrote:
DT's are my favourite unit

Mine is the mutalisk.

e: stop replying to the troll holy fuck

I bet you'd pay to get mutas carrying roaches.

An upgrade for the Hydraroach?
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 09 2017 21:02 GMT
#709
I can't believe this guy said that Byun is still the ghost king
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 09 2017 21:02 GMT
#710
On September 10 2017 06:02 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2017 06:01 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:59 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:58 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:54 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:53 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:52 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:40 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:35 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:33 Charoisaur wrote:
[quote]
when a terran asks for buffs it's "LOL you want GomTvT again", when a toss asks for buffs it's "LOL you want Blink era again".
No need to play the victim here.

I've never seen another race get called out for single-handidly killing the game like Zerg has. It's not Zerg's fault Blizzard doesn't know what they're doing.


Problem is, zerg have some imba, every time, so they abuse it, no one can beat it except one player every two seasons because of new strat, and zerg struggles because they stick to their strats

Zergs plays classic most of the time because they have more chance to win than their opponents in normal games.

If INno played that way against Dark it was because nobody could win hydra bane as bio

Same thing for Byun last year ...



Byun went 3 Rax Reaper every game because Zerg was OP?


Have you ever try to play against ultra in 2016 ?

That 1 Korean Zerg who managed to live to hive sure was glad his ultras had 8 armor.


Well, a lot of bs from kr zergs last year.

And none of them tried to do something different.

I remember soO losing in the first 6 min against double drop vs Maru.

Or the full ravager strats

Or the mass nydus strats ( TRUE )

When terrans and protoss and Dark are trying to adapt they just play like AI

when they played standard they just died to 2/2 timing


But they was as much zerg as terran in top 8 Korea

Did you know there's a 3rd race in Starcraft

Only 2 races in ZParcraft
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
September 09 2017 21:02 GMT
#711
On September 10 2017 06:01 The_Templar wrote:
Scarlett please don't do something dumb this game >.>

But that's one of her specialties!
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 09 2017 21:03 GMT
#712
On September 10 2017 06:02 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2017 06:01 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:59 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:58 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:54 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:53 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:52 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:40 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:35 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:33 Charoisaur wrote:
[quote]
when a terran asks for buffs it's "LOL you want GomTvT again", when a toss asks for buffs it's "LOL you want Blink era again".
No need to play the victim here.

I've never seen another race get called out for single-handidly killing the game like Zerg has. It's not Zerg's fault Blizzard doesn't know what they're doing.


Problem is, zerg have some imba, every time, so they abuse it, no one can beat it except one player every two seasons because of new strat, and zerg struggles because they stick to their strats

Zergs plays classic most of the time because they have more chance to win than their opponents in normal games.

If INno played that way against Dark it was because nobody could win hydra bane as bio

Same thing for Byun last year ...



Byun went 3 Rax Reaper every game because Zerg was OP?


Have you ever try to play against ultra in 2016 ?

That 1 Korean Zerg who managed to live to hive sure was glad his ultras had 8 armor.


Well, a lot of bs from kr zergs last year.

And none of them tried to do something different.

I remember soO losing in the first 6 min against double drop vs Maru.

Or the full ravager strats

Or the mass nydus strats ( TRUE )

When terrans and protoss and Dark are trying to adapt they just play like AI

when they played standard they just died to 2/2 timing


But they was as much zerg as terran in top 8 Korea

Did you know there's a 3rd race in Starcraft


I don't talk about protoss balance since Myungsik s run in s2 2016
TL+ Member
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-09 21:03:56
September 09 2017 21:03 GMT
#713
On September 10 2017 06:01 The_Templar wrote:
Scarlett please don't do something dumb this game >.>

Well if it's Scarlett and not Shura it's way too late to request that.
why even
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
September 09 2017 21:03 GMT
#714
On September 10 2017 06:01 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2017 05:59 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:58 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:54 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:53 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:52 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:40 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:35 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:33 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:30 Solar424 wrote:
[quote]
It doesn't help than whenever a Zerg player asks for buffs the response is usually, "LOL do you want Brood Lord/Infestor back? Do you want SC2 to die again?" It's only OK when Terran dominates.

when a terran asks for buffs it's "LOL you want GomTvT again", when a toss asks for buffs it's "LOL you want Blink era again".
No need to play the victim here.

I've never seen another race get called out for single-handidly killing the game like Zerg has. It's not Zerg's fault Blizzard doesn't know what they're doing.


Problem is, zerg have some imba, every time, so they abuse it, no one can beat it except one player every two seasons because of new strat, and zerg struggles because they stick to their strats

Zergs plays classic most of the time because they have more chance to win than their opponents in normal games.

If INno played that way against Dark it was because nobody could win hydra bane as bio

Same thing for Byun last year ...



Byun went 3 Rax Reaper every game because Zerg was OP?


Have you ever try to play against ultra in 2016 ?

That 1 Korean Zerg who managed to live to hive sure was glad his ultras had 8 armor.


Well, a lot of bs from kr zergs last year.

And none of them tried to do something different.

I remember soO losing in the first 6 min against double drop vs Maru.

Or the full ravager strats

Or the mass nydus strats ( TRUE )

When terrans and protoss and Dark are trying to adapt they just play like AI

when they played standard they just died to 2/2 timing


But they was as much zerg as terran in top 8 Korea
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series_Korea/Standings
the 3rd Zerg was soO at #18
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
September 09 2017 21:05 GMT
#715
Hey, the oldschool archon drop
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-09 21:05:20
September 09 2017 21:05 GMT
#716
On September 10 2017 06:03 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2017 06:01 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:59 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:58 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:54 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:53 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:52 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:40 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:35 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:33 Charoisaur wrote:
[quote]
when a terran asks for buffs it's "LOL you want GomTvT again", when a toss asks for buffs it's "LOL you want Blink era again".
No need to play the victim here.

I've never seen another race get called out for single-handidly killing the game like Zerg has. It's not Zerg's fault Blizzard doesn't know what they're doing.


Problem is, zerg have some imba, every time, so they abuse it, no one can beat it except one player every two seasons because of new strat, and zerg struggles because they stick to their strats

Zergs plays classic most of the time because they have more chance to win than their opponents in normal games.

If INno played that way against Dark it was because nobody could win hydra bane as bio

Same thing for Byun last year ...



Byun went 3 Rax Reaper every game because Zerg was OP?


Have you ever try to play against ultra in 2016 ?

That 1 Korean Zerg who managed to live to hive sure was glad his ultras had 8 armor.


Well, a lot of bs from kr zergs last year.

And none of them tried to do something different.

I remember soO losing in the first 6 min against double drop vs Maru.

Or the full ravager strats

Or the mass nydus strats ( TRUE )

When terrans and protoss and Dark are trying to adapt they just play like AI

when they played standard they just died to 2/2 timing


But they was as much zerg as terran in top 8 Korea
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series_Korea/Standings
the 3rd Zerg was soO at #18

My favorite LotV statistic is Rogue being the best Zerg player in Proleague by far, sitting at #10.
2nd favorite is that GSL season with 0 Zergs in ro8, the first ro8 with 2 races since Zergless top8 in 2012.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 09 2017 21:05 GMT
#717
On September 10 2017 06:03 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2017 06:01 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:59 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:58 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:54 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:53 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:52 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:40 DieuCure wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:35 Solar424 wrote:
On September 10 2017 05:33 Charoisaur wrote:
[quote]
when a terran asks for buffs it's "LOL you want GomTvT again", when a toss asks for buffs it's "LOL you want Blink era again".
No need to play the victim here.

I've never seen another race get called out for single-handidly killing the game like Zerg has. It's not Zerg's fault Blizzard doesn't know what they're doing.


Problem is, zerg have some imba, every time, so they abuse it, no one can beat it except one player every two seasons because of new strat, and zerg struggles because they stick to their strats

Zergs plays classic most of the time because they have more chance to win than their opponents in normal games.

If INno played that way against Dark it was because nobody could win hydra bane as bio

Same thing for Byun last year ...



Byun went 3 Rax Reaper every game because Zerg was OP?


Have you ever try to play against ultra in 2016 ?

That 1 Korean Zerg who managed to live to hive sure was glad his ultras had 8 armor.


Well, a lot of bs from kr zergs last year.

And none of them tried to do something different.

I remember soO losing in the first 6 min against double drop vs Maru.

Or the full ravager strats

Or the mass nydus strats ( TRUE )

When terrans and protoss and Dark are trying to adapt they just play like AI

when they played standard they just died to 2/2 timing


But they was as much zerg as terran in top 8 Korea
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series_Korea/Standings
the 3rd Zerg was soO at #18


Cure#11 - 1800 s1 gsl, thank you for making me remember
TL+ Member
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
September 09 2017 21:05 GMT
#718
lol Scarlett bop
why even
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 09 2017 21:05 GMT
#719
Welp
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3484 Posts
September 09 2017 21:05 GMT
#720
Neeb is playing very well atm
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
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