Twitch is a party of useless morons. Since the last update, I need to make an account there in order to watch streams in their Android app. How can anyome be that idiotic?
What is the link for ByuN - MaNa? It would be cool to be able to pass the mouse on top of MaNa vs ByuN on the live event tab and see which streams we have available
Wtf happened, I didn't realize how smart ByuN was with his moves. Painful to watch MaNa committing suicide because he couldn't handle the mental pressure, but that makes the Squirtle vs mvp and mvp vs TOP GSL finals even more beautiful, superb mental resilience
On July 22 2017 21:00 Poopi wrote: Wtf happened, I didn't realize how smart ByuN was with his moves. Painful to watch MaNa committing suicide because he couldn't handle the mental pressure, but that makes the Squirtle vs mvp and mvp vs TOP GSL finals even more beautiful, superb mental resilience
On July 22 2017 21:00 Poopi wrote: Wtf happened, I didn't realize how smart ByuN was with his moves. Painful to watch MaNa committing suicide because he couldn't handle the mental pressure, but that makes the Squirtle vs mvp and mvp vs TOP GSL finals even more beautiful, superb mental resilience
ByuN stopped trying to win without starport units
No I mean when he fled from the fight in the middle of the map that was in a bad spot, to come closer to his base and the high ground. MaNa knew it would be a shit spot to take a fight but probably accepted defeat and attempted to fight in a bad spot xD.
That speaks a lot about ByuN aura, MaNa thinks of himself as better than bluecheese and the likes so he doesn't accept losing to such players, but against the greatest player of LotV he accepts it relatively quickly
On July 22 2017 21:14 GumBa wrote: If we don't get a Korean cast this event I will be sad.
You're gonna be sad then. If it didn't happen yet I don't think it will at all.
Does anyone who watches Zest's stream know if he speaks any English?
I don't know if it's improved since then but I only remember it being particularly atrocious even by Korean progamer standards. Even more so considering Zest is one of the few pros who finished school
On July 22 2017 21:14 GumBa wrote: If we don't get a Korean cast this event I will be sad.
You're gonna be sad then. If it didn't happen yet I don't think it will at all.
Does anyone who watches Zest's stream know if he speaks any English?
I don't know if it's improved since then but I only remember it being particularly atrocious even by Korean progamer standards. Even more so considering Zest is one of the few pros who finished school
Zest is too busy benching to consider learning english.
On July 22 2017 21:14 GumBa wrote: If we don't get a Korean cast this event I will be sad.
You're gonna be sad then. If it didn't happen yet I don't think it will at all.
Does anyone who watches Zest's stream know if he speaks any English?
I don't know if it's improved since then but I only remember it being particularly atrocious even by Korean progamer standards. Even more so considering Zest is one of the few pros who finished school
Zest is too busy benching to consider learning english.
On July 22 2017 21:25 [PkF] Wire wrote: incontrol is crazy ^^
So I've been looking for 15 minutes for that picture and stil can't find it: does anyone have a screenshot of INnoVation saying "if you aren't good at the game, you might as well be good at running your mouth?"
On July 22 2017 21:48 Diabolique wrote: What? I came back after a few minutes on youtube and you have created 7 pages of discussion? I am not going to read it!
Please, write every meaningful idea, you had on the 7 pages, once again!
fortunately as shitposters we're strangers to the concept of meaningful idea
On July 22 2017 21:48 Diabolique wrote: What? I came back after a few minutes on youtube and you have created 7 pages of discussion? I am not going to read it!
Please, write every meaningful idea, you had on the 7 pages, once again!
fortunately as shitposters we're strangers to the concept of meaningful idea
On July 22 2017 23:07 Ej_ wrote: yeah iNcontrol, I LOVE spending 200/200 on a tech that I will never use.
But it messes them up! when they see you making a spire they'll push and you'll die
to be fair it worked well in HotS to build both spire and infestation pit because sh and muta/corruptor required such different reactions it was worth it to keep the P confused
On July 22 2017 23:07 Ej_ wrote: yeah iNcontrol, I LOVE spending 200/200 on a tech that I will never use.
But it messes them up! when they see you making a spire they'll push and you'll die
to be fair it worked well in HotS to build both spire and infestation pit because sh and muta/corruptor required such different reactions it was worth it to keep the P confused
Yeah but in HotS you actually had the superior economy to afford it and not die
On July 22 2017 23:07 Ej_ wrote: yeah iNcontrol, I LOVE spending 200/200 on a tech that I will never use.
But it messes them up! when they see you making a spire they'll push and you'll die
to be fair it worked well in HotS to build both spire and infestation pit because sh and muta/corruptor required such different reactions it was worth it to keep the P confused
Yeah but in HotS you actually had the superior economy to afford it and not die
With viewer numbers this low it seems to be extremely generous by TakeTV to even organize this event. The 15k donated by the community + a few $ from the usual sponsors should not be enough to pay for all the fun.
On July 22 2017 23:35 marcesr wrote: With viewer numbers this low it seems to be extremely generous by TakeTV to even organize this event. The 15k donated by the community + a few $ from the usual sponsors should not be enough to pay for all the fun.
10 thousand people watching a commercial break during groups isn't a lot?
On July 23 2017 00:18 djraphi23 wrote: I guess it's very satisfying to watch Showtime-Bly as a protoss. The german blocks everything Bly throws at him.
On July 23 2017 01:28 [PkF] Wire wrote: Zest is definitely not beating ByuN / Gumiho
he could take maps of ByuN
Maybe at jenga.
Reminds me of last year when ByuN won GSL and Zest was in a massive slump, then Zest beat him 4-1 at kespa cup
I'm not saying Zest would beat him, but ByuN's TvP is very shaky. He recently lost to Super and Hurricane, which aren't far of Zest's level
I really need to see Super and Hurricane vs DemusliM and Heromarine before I say they aren't far from Zest's current level, which is painful to see at times. PvT has always been the mu he can shine in or be embarrassingly bad at though.
On July 23 2017 01:44 Shellshock wrote: people acting like this is a surprise when byun already said that heromarine has the 2nd best tvp in this tournament behind gumiho
well he said he would get 3-1ed by ShoWTime so I took that statement with a grain of salt
Wow ByuN didn't lost a map yet? What a bonjwa :o But seriously tho, did he dominate ShoWTimE as much as the score suggests? Why is ShoWTimE becoming the shadow of himself recently (in before whine about protoss, there are protoss out there performing as well as we expect of them)
Too bad I missed it, ByuN is seemingly doing a Federer right now
On July 23 2017 02:35 Poopi wrote: Wow ByuN didn't lost a map yet? What a bonjwa :o But seriously tho, did he dominate ShoWTimE as much as the score suggests? Why is ShoWTimE becoming the shadow of himself recently (in before whine about protoss, there are protoss out there performing as well as we expect of them)
Too bad I missed it, ByuN is seemingly doing a Federer right now
Showtime dominated everyone except Byun he's actually doing great
On July 23 2017 02:35 Poopi wrote: Wow ByuN didn't lost a map yet? What a bonjwa :o But seriously tho, did he dominate ShoWTimE as much as the score suggests? Why is ShoWTimE becoming the shadow of himself recently (in before whine about protoss, there are protoss out there performing as well as we expect of them)
Too bad I missed it, ByuN is seemingly doing a Federer right now
Showtime dominated everyone except Byun he's actually doing great
He lost pretty badly at the most recent WCS iirc. So I'm talking about that, not about his performance at HSC against lesser players.
On July 23 2017 02:35 Poopi wrote: Wow ByuN didn't lost a map yet? What a bonjwa :o But seriously tho, did he dominate ShoWTimE as much as the score suggests? Why is ShoWTimE becoming the shadow of himself recently (in before whine about protoss, there are protoss out there performing as well as we expect of them)
Too bad I missed it, ByuN is seemingly doing a Federer right now
Showtime dominated everyone except Byun he's actually doing great
He lost pretty badly at the most recent WCS iirc. So I'm talking about that, not about his performance at HSC against lesser players.
Oh yeah, he said he didn't really know why his results were not as good in an interview, still practicing hard, 7k mmr etc
On July 23 2017 02:35 Poopi wrote: Wow ByuN didn't lost a map yet? What a bonjwa :o But seriously tho, did he dominate ShoWTimE as much as the score suggests? Why is ShoWTimE becoming the shadow of himself recently (in before whine about protoss, there are protoss out there performing as well as we expect of them)
Too bad I missed it, ByuN is seemingly doing a Federer right now
Showtime dominated everyone except Byun he's actually doing great
He lost pretty badly at the most recent WCS iirc. So I'm talking about that, not about his performance at HSC against lesser players.
Hold up. Hold the fuckin phone.
You think uThermal, Bly and Namshar whom ShoWTimE beat at HSC XV, are "lesser players" compared to Denver and Strange whom he lost to at Valencia?
I want some of that dank kush you're smoking. lmao.
On July 23 2017 02:35 Poopi wrote: Wow ByuN didn't lost a map yet? What a bonjwa :o But seriously tho, did he dominate ShoWTimE as much as the score suggests? Why is ShoWTimE becoming the shadow of himself recently (in before whine about protoss, there are protoss out there performing as well as we expect of them)
Too bad I missed it, ByuN is seemingly doing a Federer right now
Showtime dominated everyone except Byun he's actually doing great
He lost pretty badly at the most recent WCS iirc. So I'm talking about that, not about his performance at HSC against lesser players.
Oh yeah, he said he didn't really know why his results were not as good in an interview, still practicing hard, 7k mmr etc
Okay so he'll do fine in the next tournaments, that's good to hear
On July 23 2017 02:35 Poopi wrote: Wow ByuN didn't lost a map yet? What a bonjwa :o But seriously tho, did he dominate ShoWTimE as much as the score suggests? Why is ShoWTimE becoming the shadow of himself recently (in before whine about protoss, there are protoss out there performing as well as we expect of them)
Too bad I missed it, ByuN is seemingly doing a Federer right now
Showtime dominated everyone except Byun he's actually doing great
He lost pretty badly at the most recent WCS iirc. So I'm talking about that, not about his performance at HSC against lesser players.
He said he feels like he's playing like his normal self outside of the big WCS tournaments on ladder and on smaller cups for example. Not totally sure why he's failing in WCS.
He had good moments in his series against Byun, but then when he made a mistake Byun capitalized on it well. I guess it could have been 3-1.
On July 23 2017 02:35 Poopi wrote: Wow ByuN didn't lost a map yet? What a bonjwa :o But seriously tho, did he dominate ShoWTimE as much as the score suggests? Why is ShoWTimE becoming the shadow of himself recently (in before whine about protoss, there are protoss out there performing as well as we expect of them)
Too bad I missed it, ByuN is seemingly doing a Federer right now
Showtime dominated everyone except Byun he's actually doing great
He lost pretty badly at the most recent WCS iirc. So I'm talking about that, not about his performance at HSC against lesser players.
Hold up. Hold the fuckin phone.
You think uThermal, Bly and Namshar whom ShoWTimE beat at HSC XV, are "lesser players" compared to Denver and Strange whom he lost to at Valencia?
I want some of that dank kush you're smoking. lmao.
What? ShoWTimE is on paper better than all the players you quoted. But HSC is not as serious of a tournament as a WCS event, so I don't really care about his performance against lesser players (compared to him) in HSC.
On July 23 2017 02:35 Poopi wrote: Wow ByuN didn't lost a map yet? What a bonjwa :o But seriously tho, did he dominate ShoWTimE as much as the score suggests? Why is ShoWTimE becoming the shadow of himself recently (in before whine about protoss, there are protoss out there performing as well as we expect of them)
Too bad I missed it, ByuN is seemingly doing a Federer right now
Showtime dominated everyone except Byun he's actually doing great
He lost pretty badly at the most recent WCS iirc. So I'm talking about that, not about his performance at HSC against lesser players.
Hold up. Hold the fuckin phone.
You think uThermal, Bly and Namshar whom ShoWTimE beat at HSC XV, are "lesser players" compared to Denver and Strange whom he lost to at Valencia?
I want some of that dank kush you're smoking. lmao.
What? ShoWTimE is on paper better than all the players you quoted. But HSC is not as serious of a tournament as a WCS event, so I don't really care about his performance against lesser players (compared to him) in HSC.
The way you worded things was very ambiguous. It looked like you were saying that HSC has lesser players compared to WCS, which would have been very ironic for the reasons in my previous post.
Still it's kinda sad to see people still downplaying the skill of uThermal and Bly...
On July 23 2017 02:35 Poopi wrote: Wow ByuN didn't lost a map yet? What a bonjwa :o But seriously tho, did he dominate ShoWTimE as much as the score suggests? Why is ShoWTimE becoming the shadow of himself recently (in before whine about protoss, there are protoss out there performing as well as we expect of them)
Too bad I missed it, ByuN is seemingly doing a Federer right now
Showtime dominated everyone except Byun he's actually doing great
He lost pretty badly at the most recent WCS iirc. So I'm talking about that, not about his performance at HSC against lesser players.
Hold up. Hold the fuckin phone.
You think uThermal, Bly and Namshar whom ShoWTimE beat at HSC XV, are "lesser players" compared to Denver and Strange whom he lost to at Valencia?
I want some of that dank kush you're smoking. lmao.
What? ShoWTimE is on paper better than all the players you quoted. But HSC is not as serious of a tournament as a WCS event, so I don't really care about his performance against lesser players (compared to him) in HSC.
The way you worded things was very ambiguous. It looked like you were saying that HSC has lesser players compared to WCS, which would have been very ironic for the reasons in my previous post.
Still it's kinda sad to see people still downplaying the skill of uThermal and Bly...
? I'm not downplaying their skill or their form. Just that ShoWTimE proved his worth as a competitor by winning WCS events. There is nothing more to it.
On July 23 2017 03:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I like how Elazer can sit all his overlords over Zest's production since DT builds like this have no anti-air.
Actually you usually make a stalker when doing a DT drop to prevent exactly that :p
On July 23 2017 03:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I like how Elazer can sit all his overlords over Zest's production since DT builds like this have no anti-air.
Actually you usually make a stalker when doing a DT drop to prevent exactly that :p
Tbh a single stalker won't stop speed overlords from scouting anything, so skipping it makes sense kinda (the choice of the build is still questionable) it just makes it more hilarious.
Yesterday, the honor of Korea was upheld by kicking all the foreigners out of GSL. Today......Zest. Ofc, Zest is sub-Code S, so there's that. At least he is not in GSL vs the World.
On July 23 2017 04:01 pvsnp wrote: Yesterday, the honor of Korea was upheld by kicking all the foreigners out of GSL. Today......Zest. Ofc, Zest is sub-Code S, so there's that.
On July 23 2017 04:01 pvsnp wrote: Yesterday, the honor of Korea was upheld by kicking all the foreigners out of GSL. Today......Zest. Ofc, Zest is sub-Code S, so there's that.
Zest is protoss, so theres that.
I mean, do you think herO/Stats would have lost to Elazer or something? Zest simply isn't a top-tier KR Protoss anymore.
On July 23 2017 04:01 pvsnp wrote: Yesterday, the honor of Korea was upheld by kicking all the foreigners out of GSL. Today......Zest. Ofc, Zest is sub-Code S, so there's that.
Zest is protoss, so theres that.
I mean, do you think herO/Stats would have lost to Elazer or something? Zest simply isn't a top-tier KR Protoss anymore.
herO is pretty cheesy and Stats isn't doing so hot anymore either. There really isn't a stable protoss that's doing well in korea atm that I can think of.
On July 23 2017 04:01 pvsnp wrote: Yesterday, the honor of Korea was upheld by kicking all the foreigners out of GSL. Today......Zest. Ofc, Zest is sub-Code S, so there's that.
On July 23 2017 04:01 pvsnp wrote: Yesterday, the honor of Korea was upheld by kicking all the foreigners out of GSL. Today......Zest. Ofc, Zest is sub-Code S, so there's that.
Zest is protoss, so theres that.
I mean, do you think herO/Stats would have lost to Elazer or something? Zest simply isn't a top-tier KR Protoss anymore.
herO is pretty cheesy and Stats isn't doing so hot anymore either. There really isn't a stable protoss that's doing well in korea atm that I can think of.
6 protosses made it to the ro16 in GSL with 5 of them topping their groups...
On July 23 2017 04:01 pvsnp wrote: Yesterday, the honor of Korea was upheld by kicking all the foreigners out of GSL. Today......Zest. Ofc, Zest is sub-Code S, so there's that.
Zest is protoss, so theres that.
I mean, do you think herO/Stats would have lost to Elazer or something? Zest simply isn't a top-tier KR Protoss anymore.
herO is pretty cheesy and Stats isn't doing so hot anymore either. There really isn't a stable protoss that's doing well in korea atm that I can think of.
"Stats isn't so hot anymore" this is based of what?
His online performances are sketchy, but his offline games are still good. He got top 4 in SSL, and ro8 in GSL last season. This season he's beaten Solar and aLive in SSL, and won his GSL group.
His only bad tournament run this year has been in Super Tournament, he lost to Gumiho (who went on to win GSL)
A Zest in horrible shape who's losing almost every offline game in korea can still take the current WCS champion to the last map. GSL vs the world will be fun.
On July 23 2017 04:01 pvsnp wrote: Yesterday, the honor of Korea was upheld by kicking all the foreigners out of GSL. Today......Zest. Ofc, Zest is sub-Code S, so there's that.
Zest is protoss, so theres that.
I mean, do you think herO/Stats would have lost to Elazer or something? Zest simply isn't a top-tier KR Protoss anymore.
herO is pretty cheesy and Stats isn't doing so hot anymore either. There really isn't a stable protoss that's doing well in korea atm that I can think of.
6 protosses made it to the ro16 in GSL with 5 of them topping their groups...
And we have to give special thanks to sOs, Classic and herO (especially sOs I guess) among them since they have been carried their race from the beginning of 2013, their contribution (both mentally and technically) just never fade away. Also RIP Rain and Parting, I don't think any of the young Protoss player (if there is any) will reach their level ever again.
So uh... since there is no discussion about DH Atlanta anywhere else, does anyone know why none of the players who participated in the qualifier are there?
On July 23 2017 05:08 207aicila wrote: So uh... since there is no discussion about DH Atlanta anywhere else, does anyone know why none of the players who participated in the qualifier are there?
On July 23 2017 06:54 [PkF] Wire wrote: Quite a clever guess by Zest. Heromarine ate all the baits merrily.
Don't believe Zest can even get ro4.
Yeah Serral/Elazer/Gumiho/Byun probably ain't losing to him.
Seems unlikely yeah. Of course class is permanent, but Zest has been so incredibly unconvincing. Maybe he can play one decent series, but the Gumiho ByuN finals looks inevitable now.
On July 23 2017 06:57 Fango wrote: Zest goes up against Gumi, ByuN, or Serral in the ro8
rip
Not sure why but I like his chances against Byun the best.
He isn't that different from ShoWTimE and has been showing less consistent play so I think he'd get a good old 3-0 spanking. I'd say it'd be close vs Serral, but he'd lose 3-2 somehow like against Elazer.
On July 23 2017 07:03 Fango wrote: I'm just hoping ByuN and gumiho are on opposite sides of the bracket. I don't want a one sided finals lol
Then again gumiho would probably 4-1 byun anyway lol
One-sided finals aren't too good but Gumiho or ByuN completing an undefeated run of bo5s with a bo7 finals would be pretty amazing, 22-0 that would look nice ^^
On July 23 2017 07:03 Diabolique wrote: I am sorry to announce it to you, all the SC2 fans, but all your favorite players WILL LOSE!!! Maybe except of one.
On July 23 2017 07:03 Fango wrote: I'm just hoping ByuN and gumiho are on opposite sides of the bracket. I don't want a one sided finals lol
Then again gumiho would probably 4-1 byun anyway lol
One-sided finals aren't too good but Gumiho or ByuN completing an undefeated run of bo5s with a bo7 finals would be pretty amazing, 22-0 that would look nice ^^
On July 23 2017 07:03 Fango wrote: I'm just hoping ByuN and gumiho are on opposite sides of the bracket. I don't want a one sided finals lol
Then again gumiho would probably 4-1 byun anyway lol
One-sided finals aren't too good but Gumiho or ByuN completing an undefeated run of bo5s with a bo7 finals would be pretty amazing, 22-0 that would look nice ^^
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
TIME's insanely inconsistent and awful at TvZ. I'd consider him around the level of Heromarine.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
If you are referring to their recent GSL game, Inno was nowhere near top form.
In fact, what are you referring to? There was only ever one person that could actually fight and win against INnoVation at his peak and that was Life at his peak. Even Soulkey only had the one miracle series.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
TIME's insanely inconsistent and awful at TvZ. I'd consider him around the level of Heromarine.
Heromarine has better TvZ than TIME. But in TvP dunno.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
When was that?
When she took the first map, threw another game with excellent amove into the mines and then lost to a scouted 2rax?
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
TIME's insanely inconsistent and awful at TvZ. I'd consider him around the level of Heromarine.
Heromarine has better TvZ than TIME. But in TvP dunno.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
When was that?
When she took the first map, threw another game with excellent amove into the mines and then lost to a scouted 2rax?
Well, the OP said "Inno in his top form," which he obviously was not unless you think peak Inno threw away four medivacs for free on a regular basis. Inno's scouting was awful that series, as shown by his tanks against ling/bane in game 2.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
TIME's insanely inconsistent and awful at TvZ. I'd consider him around the level of Heromarine.
Heromarine has better TvZ than TIME. But in TvP dunno.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
When was that?
When she took the first map, threw another game with excellent amove into the mines and then lost to a scouted 2rax?
TIME is probably a little better than Heromarine at TvP, but the difference isn't huge.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
Scarlett's only beaten Inno twice. Once in a IEM qualifier and once in Nation Wars. I'm not sure Inno was in top form in either of those
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
TIME's insanely inconsistent and awful at TvZ. I'd consider him around the level of Heromarine.
Heromarine has better TvZ than TIME. But in TvP dunno.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
When was that?
When she took the first map, threw another game with excellent amove into the mines and then lost to a scouted 2rax?
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
Scarlett's only beaten Inno twice. Once in a IEM qualifier and once in Nation Wars. I'm not sure Inno was in top form in either of those
Series wins, yes. Neither was Inno in top form (both were online, first was a pair of bane busts and second was literally Inno being shaken awake at 7 am in such bad form that he got his hold position Marines killed by slow banes).
Scarlett played very well vs Inno in the recent GSL, but Inno was also far from peak form in that series.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
TIME's insanely inconsistent and awful at TvZ. I'd consider him around the level of Heromarine.
Heromarine has better TvZ than TIME. But in TvP dunno.
On July 23 2017 07:21 GumBa wrote:
On July 23 2017 07:19 Diabolique wrote:
On July 23 2017 07:18 D-light wrote:
On July 23 2017 07:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 23 2017 07:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 23 2017 07:07 pvsnp wrote:
On July 23 2017 06:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 23 2017 06:57 pvsnp wrote: [quote] Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
When was that?
When she took the first map, threw another game with excellent amove into the mines and then lost to a scouted 2rax?
That's peak Inno? :thinking:
It most certainly is not, as I already addressed. He donated 4 medivacs for free in game 1, didn't bother to scout and made blind tanks against ling/bane in game 2, and derped around with a cloaked banshee over completely unprotected mineral lines in game 3.
While Scarlett did play superbly in GSL, Inno was nowhere near peak form.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
If you are referring to their recent GSL game, Inno was nowhere near top form.
In fact, what are you referring to? There was only ever one person that could actually fight and win against INnoVation at his peak and that was Life at his peak. Even Soulkey only had the one miracle series.
Yes, GSL, and I consider Innovation 2017 as being in his top form :-)
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
If you are referring to their recent GSL game, Inno was nowhere near top form.
In fact, what are you referring to? There was only ever one person that could actually fight and win against INnoVation at his peak and that was Life at his peak. Even Soulkey only had the one miracle series.
Yes, GSL, and I consider Innovation 2017 as being in his top form :-)
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
TIME's insanely inconsistent and awful at TvZ. I'd consider him around the level of Heromarine.
Heromarine has better TvZ than TIME. But in TvP dunno.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
When was that?
When she took the first map, threw another game with excellent amove into the mines and then lost to a scouted 2rax?
Exactly, she was better in everything, she has won 2-0 but instead she throwed it.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
If you are referring to their recent GSL game, Inno was nowhere near top form.
In fact, what are you referring to? There was only ever one person that could actually fight and win against INnoVation at his peak and that was Life at his peak. Even Soulkey only had the one miracle series.
Yes, GSL, and I consider Innovation 2017 as being in his top form :-)
Well, there are a couple things I have to point out then. 1. Watch more 2013 INnoVation, that was definitely his peak 2. 2017 is a long time with a lot of games and Inno's form (like everyone else's) fluctuates between games. 3. Their games in GSL were not a peak form Inno by any means, as I have explained in my posts above. He made multiple unforced and egregious mistakes in each game.
On July 23 2017 06:54 Alarak89 wrote: Turns out Heromarine is the true foreigner and Zest held the pride of Korea.
Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
TIME's insanely inconsistent and awful at TvZ. I'd consider him around the level of Heromarine.
Heromarine has better TvZ than TIME. But in TvP dunno.
On July 23 2017 07:21 GumBa wrote:
On July 23 2017 07:19 Diabolique wrote:
On July 23 2017 07:18 D-light wrote:
On July 23 2017 07:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 23 2017 07:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 23 2017 07:07 pvsnp wrote:
On July 23 2017 06:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 23 2017 06:57 pvsnp wrote: [quote] Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
When was that?
When she took the first map, threw another game with excellent amove into the mines and then lost to a scouted 2rax?
Exactly, she was better in everything, she has won 2-0 but instead she throwed it.
When you throw won games you're definitely not better at everything.
On July 23 2017 06:57 pvsnp wrote: [quote] Zest just barely managed to avoid the irredeemable disgrace.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
If you are referring to their recent GSL game, Inno was nowhere near top form.
In fact, what are you referring to? There was only ever one person that could actually fight and win against INnoVation at his peak and that was Life at his peak. Even Soulkey only had the one miracle series.
Yes, GSL, and I consider Innovation 2017 as being in his top form :-)
That is highly debatable.
OK, OK, I take it back, she practically destroyed Innovation in his standard form. Better? Still amazing!!! Such a pity, she did not win that group. But the tilt was real.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
If you are referring to their recent GSL game, Inno was nowhere near top form.
In fact, what are you referring to? There was only ever one person that could actually fight and win against INnoVation at his peak and that was Life at his peak. Even Soulkey only had the one miracle series.
Yes, GSL, and I consider Innovation 2017 as being in his top form :-)
That is highly debatable.
OK, OK, I take it back, she practically destroyed Innovation in his standard form. Better? Still amazing!!! Such a pity, she did not win that group. But the tilt was real.
On July 23 2017 07:07 pvsnp wrote: [quote] Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
If you are referring to their recent GSL game, Inno was nowhere near top form.
In fact, what are you referring to? There was only ever one person that could actually fight and win against INnoVation at his peak and that was Life at his peak. Even Soulkey only had the one miracle series.
Yes, GSL, and I consider Innovation 2017 as being in his top form :-)
That is highly debatable.
OK, OK, I take it back, she practically destroyed Innovation in his standard form. Better? Still amazing!!! Such a pity, she did not win that group. But the tilt was real.
losing to a scouted 2rax is not destroying
She has won 2-0. Almost. So the unexpected loss in game 2 caused a complete breakdown. Usual at foreigners.
He' already disgraced himself many times over the past months. Only time will tell if he is the prodigal son and Korea will take him back in.
Losing to a foreigner in the group stage takes the shame to a whole new level though.
It isn't significantly worse than bombing out of the GSL prelims after losing to Scarlett and TIME.
At least Scarlett and Time are near the top of their foreign scenes. Top foreigners can and do beat mid-tier Koreans now and then, but Heromarine is not Major/Kelazhur.
Is Scarlett though?
Scarlett, the only foreigner, who has destroyed Innovation in his top form.
If you are referring to their recent GSL game, Inno was nowhere near top form.
In fact, what are you referring to? There was only ever one person that could actually fight and win against INnoVation at his peak and that was Life at his peak. Even Soulkey only had the one miracle series.
Yes, GSL, and I consider Innovation 2017 as being in his top form :-)
That is highly debatable.
OK, OK, I take it back, she practically destroyed Innovation in his standard form. Better? Still amazing!!! Such a pity, she did not win that group. But the tilt was real.
Scarlett threw hard, that is true. She definitely could have won if she'd played a little smarter. But I wouldn't even call that Inno's standard form, he was making mistakes all over the place. Standard form would be something like INnoVation vs soO in VSL Finals, or INnoVation vs ByuL in SSL Season 1, or even INnoVation vs Solar in SSL Season 1.
If you want to see Inno in peak 2017 form watch Dark vs INnoVation at IEM Katowice (Ro24 Group D). If you want to see actual peak Inno, watch Soulkey vs INnoVation in OSL (2013 WCS KR Season 2 Ro8)
Peak INnoVation was in 2015 when he got his hellbat all-in scouted and defended by Rogue and then killed him 2 minutes later in a macro game by amoving marines.
On July 23 2017 07:39 Ej_ wrote: Peak INnoVation was in 2015 when he got his hellbat all-in scouted and defended by Rogue and then killed him 2 minutes later in a macro game by amoving marines.
On July 23 2017 07:39 Ej_ wrote: Peak INnoVation was in 2015 when he got his hellbat all-in scouted and defended by Rogue and then killed him 2 minutes later in a macro game by amoving marines.
Nah, when he beat Roro with only hellbats after losing like 40 scvs.
On July 23 2017 07:39 Ej_ wrote: Peak INnoVation was in 2015 when he got his hellbat all-in scouted and defended by Rogue and then killed him 2 minutes later in a macro game by amoving marines.
Nah, when he beat Roro with only hellbats after losing like 40 scvs.
Or when he kicked stephano out of gsl in Bl/infestor era with a gold league build.
On July 23 2017 07:39 Ej_ wrote: Peak INnoVation was in 2015 when he got his hellbat all-in scouted and defended by Rogue and then killed him 2 minutes later in a macro game by amoving marines.
Nah, when he beat Roro with only hellbats after losing like 40 scvs.
Or when he kicked stephano out of gsl in Bl/infestor era with a gold league build.
TheDwf called it "the best execution of a silver league build ever done"
On July 23 2017 07:39 Ej_ wrote: Peak INnoVation was in 2015 when he got his hellbat all-in scouted and defended by Rogue and then killed him 2 minutes later in a macro game by amoving marines.
Nah, when he beat Roro with only hellbats after losing like 40 scvs.
Or when he kicked stephano out of gsl in Bl/infestor era with a gold league build.
TheDwf called it "the best execution of a silver league build ever done"
Ayyyyy, Inno's tactics and such were actually terrible in WoL, he got by on raw macro alone.
Though, there was a time in early HotS where the "macro Terran" was Flash and Inno was actually known for his micro.
On July 23 2017 07:39 Ej_ wrote: Peak INnoVation was in 2015 when he got his hellbat all-in scouted and defended by Rogue and then killed him 2 minutes later in a macro game by amoving marines.
Nah, when he beat Roro with only hellbats after losing like 40 scvs.
Or when he kicked stephano out of gsl in Bl/infestor era with a gold league build.
TheDwf called it "the best execution of a silver league build ever done"
On July 23 2017 07:39 Ej_ wrote: Peak INnoVation was in 2015 when he got his hellbat all-in scouted and defended by Rogue and then killed him 2 minutes later in a macro game by amoving marines.
Nah, when he beat Roro with only hellbats after losing like 40 scvs.
Or when he kicked stephano out of gsl in Bl/infestor era with a gold league build.
Or when he beat Welmu in the final game in a bo3, after being down 30 workers after the big fight, with some marauders against mass storm.
On July 23 2017 07:39 Ej_ wrote: Peak INnoVation was in 2015 when he got his hellbat all-in scouted and defended by Rogue and then killed him 2 minutes later in a macro game by amoving marines.
Nah, when he beat Roro with only hellbats after losing like 40 scvs.
Or when he kicked stephano out of gsl in Bl/infestor era with a gold league build.
Or when he beat Welmu in the final game in a bo3, after being down 30 workers after the big fight, with some of marauders against mass storm.
Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
2013 sOs was also amazing, to be fair.
The glory days of KeSPA are come and gone. Flash, Fantasy, Rain, Soulkey, and all those others, gone to dust and song. The Machine is still crushing nerds though, truly the Eternal Terran.
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
MKP scanning cannons and then still doing the SCV pull is a classic.
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
Wait, I don't know that one, I just know the newer ones. Who is MKP?
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
Wait, I don't know that one, I just know the newer ones. Who is MKP?
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
Wait, I don't know that one, I just know the newer ones. Who is MKP?
MarineKing Prime, the guy who invented bio splits.
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
Wait, I don't know that one, I just know the newer ones. Who is MKP?
MarineKing Prime, the guy who invented bio splits.
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
Wait, I don't know that one, I just know the newer ones. Who is MKP?
MarineKing Prime, the guy who invented bio splits.
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
Wait, I don't know that one, I just know the newer ones. Who is MKP?
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
Wait, I don't know that one, I just know the newer ones. Who is MKP?
MarineKing Prime, the guy who invented bio splits.
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
Wait, I don't know that one, I just know the newer ones. Who is MKP?
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
Wait, I don't know that one, I just know the newer ones. Who is MKP?
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
Wait, I don't know that one, I just know the newer ones. Who is MKP?
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
Wait, I don't know that one, I just know the newer ones. Who is MKP?
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
Wait, I don't know that one, I just know the newer ones. Who is MKP?
I was not around at that time (probably in the middle of the Amazon jungle), but I am not that interested in watching old Inno vs. Taeja games. I even watched again sOs vs. JaeDong BlizzCon 2013 finals and I realized, it is not interesting at all, it was the time of deathballs and would lead just more to balance whining. While sOs's victory over Life in the next BlizzCon 2015 finals was pure genius ...
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
Wait, I don't know that one, I just know the newer ones. Who is MKP?
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
Wait, I don't know that one, I just know the newer ones. Who is MKP?
On July 23 2017 08:13 Ej_ wrote: Is there anyone who doesn't box top right->bottom left?
I actually don't know how I do it I think it's bottom right -> top left but I'm not sure that's what I do in a game. I think that depends where my cursor came from too.
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
Wait, I don't know that one, I just know the newer ones. Who is MKP?
On July 23 2017 07:52 Diabolique wrote: Guys, sorry, I am not going to watch some old Innovation movies. When I have a retro mood, I am watching old sOs movies. Even now, during HomeStory cup, I watched again this morning's pressure against TY. When it was already over, but it was not. Classic sOs.
sOs-MKP best series of all time
Wait, I don't know that one, I just know the newer ones. Who is MKP?
On July 23 2017 08:30 Diabolique wrote: It is a much better opponent for Zest than e.g. Serral.
Honestly if we can judge his play vT according to what he showed vs Demu / Heromarine, it will be a straightforward 3-0 destruction
Yes, of course he will lose. But it is better for him than if he had lost to Serral in a bracket.
I think he'd have probably lost but in close series vs Serral. And with nerves and his champion past, you never know. But vs Gumi, yeah he'll be able to use the gsl champion excuse, but I don't see how he won't get embarrassed
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