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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55568 Posts
July 14 2017 18:59 GMT
#681
On July 15 2017 03:55 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 03:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I still kind of wish these DHs were double elim. Probe played well enough to go further against a different opponent

What's the actual reason it's group stage -> single elim? I thought it was just time.

Time is the only thing that makes sense. Double elim adds like 2 extra days to the event.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
July 14 2017 18:59 GMT
#682
On July 15 2017 03:55 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 03:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 15 2017 03:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I still kind of wish these DHs were double elim. Probe played well enough to go further against a different opponent

I would love to see group selections tbh, cmon blizzard that would be hype

Foreigners are too faceless, it'd be boring


Some foreigners have a face.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55568 Posts
July 14 2017 18:59 GMT
#683
On July 15 2017 03:59 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 03:58 Heartland wrote:
On July 15 2017 03:55 Elentos wrote:
On July 15 2017 03:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 15 2017 03:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I still kind of wish these DHs were double elim. Probe played well enough to go further against a different opponent

I would love to see group selections tbh, cmon blizzard that would be hype

That'd be lame, Neeb would always get first pick but he has no personality to make use of it


group selection should just be Artur and Stephano

Or even just Stephano.

Stephano group selecting beverages
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 14 2017 18:59 GMT
#684
On July 15 2017 03:59 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 03:55 intotheheart wrote:
On July 15 2017 03:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I still kind of wish these DHs were double elim. Probe played well enough to go further against a different opponent

What's the actual reason it's group stage -> single elim? I thought it was just time.

Time is the only thing that makes sense. Double elim adds like 2 extra days to the event.

Especially if we're running Bo5s instead of Bo3s.

And with LOTV being what it is, I think Bo5s makes more sense.
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24596 Posts
July 14 2017 19:01 GMT
#685
On July 15 2017 03:59 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 03:58 Heartland wrote:
On July 15 2017 03:55 Elentos wrote:
On July 15 2017 03:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 15 2017 03:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I still kind of wish these DHs were double elim. Probe played well enough to go further against a different opponent

I would love to see group selections tbh, cmon blizzard that would be hype

That'd be lame, Neeb would always get first pick but he has no personality to make use of it


group selection should just be Artur and Stephano

Or even just Stephano.


Stephano and liqour
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
July 14 2017 19:02 GMT
#686
On July 15 2017 03:55 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 03:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I still kind of wish these DHs were double elim. Probe played well enough to go further against a different opponent

What's the actual reason it's group stage -> single elim? I thought it was just time.


To say "it's just time" is a huge understatement. Having the Ro16 be a double elimination bracket would definitely extend the length of the tournament significantly no matter what, on top of requiring additional setup to allow for even more games to be played at the same time, more staff to oversee them, possibly more casters if they should have a B stream like the old MLGs did, and of course people will always bitch that this or that game wasn't shown etc. It can also be argued that since a double elimination format would necessitate the matches to be Bo3 until the semis/finals (once again for time and logistics reasons), that would cause more variance in the earlier stages of the playoffs.

There's a good reason why the vast majority of eSports tournaments don't do double elimination playoffs.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55568 Posts
July 14 2017 19:02 GMT
#687
Here's the question, what has better odds to free us from the Major vs Neeb Ro8 curse, Major losing now or Major winning the event?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33583 Posts
July 14 2017 19:02 GMT
#688
stupid Nerchio is still in the tournament and can't have a ZvP debate contest /w TLO
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
July 14 2017 19:03 GMT
#689
gogo latam
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
July 14 2017 19:03 GMT
#690
On July 15 2017 04:02 Elentos wrote:
Here's the question, what has better odds to free us from the Major vs Neeb Ro8 curse, Major losing now or Major winning the event?

Zanster doesn't seem too hot these days, so probably Major winning the event
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 14 2017 19:04 GMT
#691
On July 15 2017 04:02 Elentos wrote:
Here's the question, what has better odds to free us from the Major vs Neeb Ro8 curse, Major losing now or Major winning the event?

winning the event? Don't you mean winning vs neeb?
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 14 2017 19:04 GMT
#692
On July 15 2017 03:59 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 03:55 intotheheart wrote:
On July 15 2017 03:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I still kind of wish these DHs were double elim. Probe played well enough to go further against a different opponent

What's the actual reason it's group stage -> single elim? I thought it was just time.

Time is the only thing that makes sense. Double elim adds like 2 extra days to the event.

You don't have to have every game on stage, you could have a B-stream
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33583 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-14 19:05:58
July 14 2017 19:05 GMT
#693
On July 15 2017 04:04 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 03:59 Elentos wrote:
On July 15 2017 03:55 intotheheart wrote:
On July 15 2017 03:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I still kind of wish these DHs were double elim. Probe played well enough to go further against a different opponent

What's the actual reason it's group stage -> single elim? I thought it was just time.

Time is the only thing that makes sense. Double elim adds like 2 extra days to the event.

You don't have to have every game on stage, you could have a B-stream


when you have a B-stream, ppl (like me) complain that shit is relegated to the B-stream.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1200 Posts
July 14 2017 19:06 GMT
#694
Probe may also proof his worth in HSC XV
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55568 Posts
July 14 2017 19:07 GMT
#695
On July 15 2017 04:04 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 03:59 Elentos wrote:
On July 15 2017 03:55 intotheheart wrote:
On July 15 2017 03:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I still kind of wish these DHs were double elim. Probe played well enough to go further against a different opponent

What's the actual reason it's group stage -> single elim? I thought it was just time.

Time is the only thing that makes sense. Double elim adds like 2 extra days to the event.

You don't have to have every game on stage, you could have a B-stream

This is still added logistic and monetary effort, and will most likely still add an extra day to the tournament (winners finals, losers final, grand final, all that stuff has to be on main stream).
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2017 19:07 GMT
#696
On July 15 2017 04:02 Elentos wrote:
Here's the question, what has better odds to free us from the Major vs Neeb Ro8 curse, Major losing now or Major winning the event?

Special will win the event
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
July 14 2017 19:08 GMT
#697
Crap I wanted Probe to win :/.
WriterMaru
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 14 2017 19:08 GMT
#698
On July 15 2017 04:06 TaKeTV wrote:
Probe may also proof his worth in HSC XV

I really think he will, he's looking great, even more excited for him than Zest .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
July 14 2017 19:08 GMT
#699
On July 15 2017 04:06 TaKeTV wrote:
Probe may also proof his worth in HSC XV

Shameless plug.
why even
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
July 14 2017 19:09 GMT
#700
Reapers hype
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