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mCon.Hephaistas
Profile Joined May 2014
Netherlands891 Posts
May 10 2017 10:21 GMT
#141
Spire would have been better then SH after defending that push imo.

Ah well no shame in losing to Stats, I heard he is pretty decent
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55463 Posts
May 10 2017 10:21 GMT
#142
On May 10 2017 19:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I wish they would stop calling it 'free units' though it's not hots anymore

The units are freer than ever now
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Akara12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2016
164 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-10 10:22:08
May 10 2017 10:21 GMT
#143
What's with the schedule on TL? did this really start 22 minutes ago.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 10 2017 10:22 GMT
#144
On May 10 2017 19:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The classic movecommand swarmhosts into gg

I wish they would stop calling it 'free units' though it's not hots anymore

What, are they not free? Calling free units what they are is pretty damn justified...
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15883 Posts
May 10 2017 10:22 GMT
#145
On May 10 2017 19:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I think she might have expected a second round of attack right away, hence the swarm hosts not doing anything, because she somehow didn't see the 4th from Stats. Then she realized and panicked

that makes sense
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 10 2017 10:22 GMT
#146
On May 10 2017 19:21 pvsnp wrote:
Well, with that kind of performance she has a good chance against Classic. Stats too stronk.

Exactly, no need to worry about the loss here. It was close enough and tbh Stats is the strongest opponent, the other two are more beatable imo.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 10 2017 10:22 GMT
#147
On May 10 2017 19:21 Akara12345 wrote:
What's with the schedule on TL? did this really start 22 minutes ago.

Yeah Stats just beat Scarlett 2-1.
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 10 2017 10:22 GMT
#148
On May 10 2017 19:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I think she might have expected a second round of attack right away, hence the swarm hosts not doing anything, because she somehow didn't see the 4th from Stats. Then she realized and panicked


yeah I think with the long delay between waves, it's a difficult decision to launch and remove such a big part of your from action for half a minute when an attack might come.
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-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
May 10 2017 10:22 GMT
#149
Stats totally botched that opening BO, by rearranging the 2nd Immortal for the WP and attacking. Parting does that BO in that particular order because it allows you to attack directly, quicker, and at a better supply timing. Trying to pull your opponent apart with an initial attack probably destroys most people, but I think the code S players are usually going to defend that initial attack pretty easily and so much can go wrong for your follow up push. Imagine if the WP dies, then your push is soooooooo sloooowww...

in any case tho, following that botched attack Stats just followed through on his sick macro/backup after doing sufficient damage to be able to stay in the game and just pulled it back with great multi-tasking and pretty bad opportunity capitalization from scarlet. I think she had pretty much the right idea on the follow up, just was too picky about where and when to use the SHs. I think she probably only loses in that position like 30% of the time or something, it looked quite good if she got right to it.

o well, decent game overall. i was quite happy to see the parting opener again. felt really weird still remembering the exact food timings on buildings from a HotS build in LotV hahaha
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55463 Posts
May 10 2017 10:23 GMT
#150
On May 10 2017 19:22 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 19:21 Akara12345 wrote:
What's with the schedule on TL? did this really start 22 minutes ago.

Yeah Stats just beat Scarlett 2-1.

It still started 52 minutes ago
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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
May 10 2017 10:23 GMT
#151
On May 10 2017 19:19 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 19:19 Penev wrote:
Scarlett lost but looked competitive, too bad of the passive swarm host play

he had obs in front of nat and an immortal there; cant really do much with them


Casters completely missed the obs there. They were focused on the warp prism flying around it.
Cereal
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 10 2017 10:24 GMT
#152
On May 10 2017 19:21 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 19:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I wish they would stop calling it 'free units' though it's not hots anymore

The units are freer than ever now

A unit is worth as much as it kills minua its cost. I doubt SH are anywhere close HTs or even immortals.

But people love to assume the game lenght always approachea infinity and every host sends unlimited locusts.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 10 2017 10:24 GMT
#153
On May 10 2017 19:22 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 19:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The classic movecommand swarmhosts into gg

I wish they would stop calling it 'free units' though it's not hots anymore

What, are they not free? Calling free units what they are is pretty damn justified...

I mean they have a cost and supply cost and have a downtime opportunity cost
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15883 Posts
May 10 2017 10:25 GMT
#154
On May 10 2017 19:24 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 19:22 pvsnp wrote:
On May 10 2017 19:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The classic movecommand swarmhosts into gg

I wish they would stop calling it 'free units' though it's not hots anymore

What, are they not free? Calling free units what they are is pretty damn justified...

I mean they have a cost and supply cost and have a downtime opportunity cost

swarmhosts yes, locusts don't
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28456 Posts
May 10 2017 10:26 GMT
#155
On May 10 2017 19:19 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 19:19 Penev wrote:
Scarlett lost but looked competitive, too bad of the passive swarm host play

he had obs in front of nat and an immortal there; cant really do much with them

well, you looked very good anyway, gl in the next matches!
I Protoss winner, could it be?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-10 10:28:19
May 10 2017 10:26 GMT
#156
On May 10 2017 19:24 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 19:22 pvsnp wrote:
On May 10 2017 19:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The classic movecommand swarmhosts into gg

I wish they would stop calling it 'free units' though it's not hots anymore

What, are they not free? Calling free units what they are is pretty damn justified...

I mean they have a cost and supply cost and have a downtime opportunity cost

And produce a potentially infinite amount of ridiculously high-DPS units that cost 0 minerals and 0 gas (and even 0 energy) apiece.

In a word, free.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-10 10:27:33
May 10 2017 10:27 GMT
#157
On May 10 2017 19:25 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 19:24 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On May 10 2017 19:22 pvsnp wrote:
On May 10 2017 19:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The classic movecommand swarmhosts into gg

I wish they would stop calling it 'free units' though it's not hots anymore

What, are they not free? Calling free units what they are is pretty damn justified...

I mean they have a cost and supply cost and have a downtime opportunity cost

swarmhosts yes, locusts don't

Again, each SH sends limited number of locusts in time intervals. Games don't go on forever.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55463 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-10 10:27:57
May 10 2017 10:27 GMT
#158
On May 10 2017 19:24 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 19:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 10 2017 19:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I wish they would stop calling it 'free units' though it's not hots anymore

The units are freer than ever now

A unit is worth as much as it kills minua its cost. I doubt SH are anywhere close HTs or even immortals.

But people love to assume the game lenght always approachea infinity and every host sends unlimited locusts.

SH are dirt cheap now though and locust DPS is great, so if you can keep them alive they will pay for themselves pretty quickly. The bigger issue is that they cut into your army size so when the locusts are on CD they are worthless in an army fight.

Also Abyssal really doesn't seem that good for the hosts.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
May 10 2017 10:27 GMT
#159
They are called free units because they are physically present at the game with Hp bars and stuff, they doesnt behavel ike marine bullets even tho they are the sh "bullets"
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Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2379 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-10 10:28:32
May 10 2017 10:28 GMT
#160
On May 10 2017 19:23 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 19:19 Scarlett` wrote:
On May 10 2017 19:19 Penev wrote:
Scarlett lost but looked competitive, too bad of the passive swarm host play

he had obs in front of nat and an immortal there; cant really do much with them


Casters completely missed the obs there. They were focused on the warp prism flying around it.


right here ~_~


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