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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 30 2017 17:56 GMT
#1621
I can assure you that zergs and terrans unite against protoss.
Like on Twitter both zergs and terrans pros would make fun of protoss for being the easy race.
It's partially true, but you don't see protoss and zergs team up against terrans, because zergs and terrans both hate protoss the most and would rather play ZvT/TvZ.

Well the Adept is universally loathed by Terrans+Zergs, not surprised they unite.
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Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
April 30 2017 17:56 GMT
#1622
On May 01 2017 02:55 Kaewins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 02:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:47 Kaewins wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:44 Kaewins wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:42 Kaewins wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Adepts get nerfed to the ground and people are still complaining...
Neeb is just much better than Major


"Adepts get nerfed to the ground" - Protoss still wins with adepts, Zealots nowhere to be seen.

I don't know Kev...


Even if adepts got removed from the game you wouldn't see zealots in PvT until the late-game.


Which is a testament of the current state of Protos and SC2 in general.


It turns out zealots aren't very good against an army that can kite them into oblivion. Who knew.


I thing called Zealot/Colossus existed, but it got shafted in favor of a unit, that is as tanky as a Zealot, is ranged and can teleport.


Zealot/Colossus?!? That sounds like a composition that gets hard countered by everything terran could possibly go for. When has anyone ever gone for that?


When the game was actually more fun to play and watch.

Meh... back then people were complaining protoss deathball only need F2+A to win. Same thing
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 30 2017 17:57 GMT
#1623
No Nerchoke ok
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
April 30 2017 17:57 GMT
#1624
honestly now, who here is gonna say that they enjoy zvz
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
April 30 2017 17:57 GMT
#1625
Doesn't Nerchio usually go out of tournaments in ZvZ? :D
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
April 30 2017 17:57 GMT
#1626
So happy that Neeb won ,but this is probably the most boring sc2 I've seen.But hey, some people are excited to watch some random WM hits,infinte boost medivac flying left and right or 2 adepts destroyng a mineral line.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
April 30 2017 17:58 GMT
#1627
On May 01 2017 02:56 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
I can assure you that zergs and terrans unite against protoss.
Like on Twitter both zergs and terrans pros would make fun of protoss for being the easy race.
It's partially true, but you don't see protoss and zergs team up against terrans, because zergs and terrans both hate protoss the most and would rather play ZvT/TvZ.

Well the Adept is universally loathed by Terrans+Zergs, not surprised they unite.

Even before that.
It was the same on WoL, dunno about HotS.
Zergs dont necessarily like terrans but they have usually more fun in ZvT than ZvP (except against mech), and vice-versa.
WriterMaru
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 30 2017 17:58 GMT
#1628
On May 01 2017 02:52 Karpfen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 02:50 Fango wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:48 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:45 Fango wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:42 Kaewins wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Adepts get nerfed to the ground and people are still complaining...
Neeb is just much better than Major


"Adepts get nerfed to the ground" - Protoss still wins with adepts, Zealots nowhere to be seen.

I don't know Kev...


Even if adepts got removed from the game you wouldn't see zealots in PvT until the late-game.


If they got removed you wouldn't see protosses get the most ez wins I think they ever have.

And that's taking blink allins into account

yeah adepts don't take any skill............

Don't have to split shades in in multiple places, focus firing workers and canceling shades at the right moment while macroing at home. It's so easy, a monkey could do that.


No offence man, but it's really not that hard. Unless the warp prism is under fire you can keep just warping in every cycle and shade them between patches.

Litterally every protoss player right now can do it with no struggles, and once the adepts get in there they usually always win. That's an ez victory if I've ever seen one.


That's just flat out lying but whatever, salt is going to be salty.


No it's not. It's really not. No fucking way adept allins takes a lot of skill compared to anything else in the game. Why can every protoss player win in such a convincing fashion. Seriously how often does a terran recover once the rounds are warped in?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 17:58:33
April 30 2017 17:58 GMT
#1629
On May 01 2017 02:57 Noonius wrote:
honestly now, who here is gonna say that they enjoy zvz

Only when its hosts vs hosts
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 30 2017 17:58 GMT
#1630
I am not in Poland, but Czech now, yet I have noticed people starting these huge bonfires everywhere. I think it's a preparation for celebration of Nerchio's victory, can't thing of any other reason!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
April 30 2017 17:58 GMT
#1631
On May 01 2017 02:55 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 02:54 Boggyb wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:50 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:47 Boggyb wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:45 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:44 Charoisaur wrote:
Neeb will probably win now. he has a good record against TRUE and Nerchio struggles in ZvP

Nerchio is a mastermind tho, he always complain about protoss knowing perfectly that he can win ZvP anyways, in order to give confidence to the protosses and crush them.

I doubt any pro player puts much stock into what another says about their worst match ups.

That's why it's brilliant: even if they don't do it consciously, a part of them starts to think it, and in the public eyes if Nerchio wins he is that good, while if he loses it's just protoss being strong.
Zergs and terrans hate protoss so much that they often use this tool to make them feel guilty :D

There are vocal sections of the player base of each race that does that.

If a Terran player beats a Zerg player, Terran is OP.
If a Zerg player beats a Terran player, Zerg is OP.
And so on and so forth.

I don't put stock into what pro players say about balance because I don't trust or believe them.

I can assure you that zergs and terrans unite against protoss.
Like on Twitter both zergs and terrans pros would make fun of protoss for being the easy race.
It's partially true, but you don't see protoss and zergs team up against terrans, because zergs and terrans both hate protoss the most and would rather play ZvT/TvZ.

mmh I see protoss and zergs teaming up against terran from time to time.
"LOL terrans just spam marines across the map all day. They don't want to make other units and expect to win with 1 unit."
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12379 Posts
April 30 2017 17:58 GMT
#1632
Silly me I thought that watching Neeb manage to turn this game around from a pretty much defeated position would have amazed some people here.

Forgot he was protoss.
No will to live, no wish to die
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 18:00:26
April 30 2017 17:59 GMT
#1633
Even before that.
It was the same on WoL, dunno about HotS.
Zergs dont necessarily like terrans but they have usually more fun in ZvT than ZvP (except against mech), and vice-versa.

Well in HotS, the Colossus was universally loathed by Terrans+Zergs, not surprised they united.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 30 2017 17:59 GMT
#1634
both 4p maps and Paladino banned out

good series incoming!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
April 30 2017 17:59 GMT
#1635
On May 01 2017 02:57 raff100 wrote:
So happy that Neeb won ,but this is probably the most boring sc2 I've seen.But hey, some people are excited to watch some random WM hits,infinte boost medivac flying left and right or 2 adepts destroyng a mineral line.


it's boring because there's only one Korean. There's no real hype. At the end of the day, people want to see foreigners vs Koreans and not something that is basically your average NA/EU ladder game played on stage
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
April 30 2017 17:59 GMT
#1636
On May 01 2017 02:58 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 02:52 Karpfen wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:50 Fango wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:48 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:45 Fango wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:42 Kaewins wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Adepts get nerfed to the ground and people are still complaining...
Neeb is just much better than Major


"Adepts get nerfed to the ground" - Protoss still wins with adepts, Zealots nowhere to be seen.

I don't know Kev...


Even if adepts got removed from the game you wouldn't see zealots in PvT until the late-game.


If they got removed you wouldn't see protosses get the most ez wins I think they ever have.

And that's taking blink allins into account

yeah adepts don't take any skill............

Don't have to split shades in in multiple places, focus firing workers and canceling shades at the right moment while macroing at home. It's so easy, a monkey could do that.


No offence man, but it's really not that hard. Unless the warp prism is under fire you can keep just warping in every cycle and shade them between patches.

Litterally every protoss player right now can do it with no struggles, and once the adepts get in there they usually always win. That's an ez victory if I've ever seen one.


That's just flat out lying but whatever, salt is going to be salty.

Why can every protoss player win in such a convincing fashion.

[citation needed]
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 30 2017 18:00 GMT
#1637
On May 01 2017 02:59 Ej_ wrote:
both 4p maps and Paladino banned out

good series incoming!


I wasn't watching but don't they only have 2 bans?
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
April 30 2017 18:00 GMT
#1638
On May 01 2017 02:57 Noonius wrote:
honestly now, who here is gonna say that they enjoy zvz

I enjoy ZvZs that involve tech rather than just roach wars.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 30 2017 18:00 GMT
#1639
On May 01 2017 03:00 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 02:59 Ej_ wrote:
both 4p maps and Paladino banned out

good series incoming!


I wasn't watching but don't they only have 2 bans?

That would be correct, but I do recall 3 maps being in red.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
April 30 2017 18:01 GMT
#1640
On May 01 2017 02:59 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 02:57 raff100 wrote:
So happy that Neeb won ,but this is probably the most boring sc2 I've seen.But hey, some people are excited to watch some random WM hits,infinte boost medivac flying left and right or 2 adepts destroyng a mineral line.


it's boring because there's only one Korean. There's no real hype. At the end of the day, people want to see foreigners vs Koreans and not something that is basically your average NA/EU ladder game played on stage

who says people want to see foreigners vs koreans?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
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