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On May 01 2017 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2017 02:55 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:54 Boggyb wrote:On May 01 2017 02:50 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:47 Boggyb wrote:On May 01 2017 02:45 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:44 Charoisaur wrote:
Neeb will probably win now. he has a good record against TRUE and Nerchio struggles in ZvP Nerchio is a mastermind tho, he always complain about protoss knowing perfectly that he can win ZvP anyways, in order to give confidence to the protosses and crush them. I doubt any pro player puts much stock into what another says about their worst match ups. That's why it's brilliant: even if they don't do it consciously, a part of them starts to think it, and in the public eyes if Nerchio wins he is that good, while if he loses it's just protoss being strong. Zergs and terrans hate protoss so much that they often use this tool to make them feel guilty :D There are vocal sections of the player base of each race that does that. If a Terran player beats a Zerg player, Terran is OP. If a Zerg player beats a Terran player, Zerg is OP. And so on and so forth. I don't put stock into what pro players say about balance because I don't trust or believe them. I can assure you that zergs and terrans unite against protoss. Like on Twitter both zergs and terrans pros would make fun of protoss for being the easy race. It's partially true, but you don't see protoss and zergs team up against terrans, because zergs and terrans both hate protoss the most and would rather play ZvT/TvZ. mmh I see protoss and zergs teaming up against terran from time to time. "LOL terrans just spam marines across the map all day. They don't want to make other units and expect to win with 1 unit."
Maybe the idiots, but I'm talking about the pros there, not random redditors.
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On May 01 2017 02:58 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2017 02:52 Karpfen wrote:On May 01 2017 02:50 Fango wrote:On May 01 2017 02:48 Charoisaur wrote:On May 01 2017 02:45 Fango wrote:On May 01 2017 02:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On May 01 2017 02:42 Kaewins wrote:On May 01 2017 02:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Adepts get nerfed to the ground and people are still complaining...
Neeb is just much better than Major "Adepts get nerfed to the ground" - Protoss still wins with adepts, Zealots nowhere to be seen. I don't know Kev... Even if adepts got removed from the game you wouldn't see zealots in PvT until the late-game. If they got removed you wouldn't see protosses get the most ez wins I think they ever have. And that's taking blink allins into account yeah adepts don't take any skill............ Don't have to split shades in in multiple places, focus firing workers and canceling shades at the right moment while macroing at home. It's so easy, a monkey could do that. No offence man, but it's really not that hard. Unless the warp prism is under fire you can keep just warping in every cycle and shade them between patches. Litterally every protoss player right now can do it with no struggles, and once the adepts get in there they usually always win. That's an ez victory if I've ever seen one. That's just flat out lying but whatever, salt is going to be salty. No it's not. It's really not. No fucking way adept allins takes a lot of skill compared to anything else in the game. Why can every protoss player win in such a convincing fashion. Seriously how often does a terran recover once the rounds are warped in?
*checks aligulac*
PvT is heavily terran favoured, 41%.
Ok.
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On May 01 2017 02:59 Karpfen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2017 02:58 Fango wrote:On May 01 2017 02:52 Karpfen wrote:On May 01 2017 02:50 Fango wrote:On May 01 2017 02:48 Charoisaur wrote:On May 01 2017 02:45 Fango wrote:On May 01 2017 02:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On May 01 2017 02:42 Kaewins wrote:On May 01 2017 02:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Adepts get nerfed to the ground and people are still complaining...
Neeb is just much better than Major "Adepts get nerfed to the ground" - Protoss still wins with adepts, Zealots nowhere to be seen. I don't know Kev... Even if adepts got removed from the game you wouldn't see zealots in PvT until the late-game. If they got removed you wouldn't see protosses get the most ez wins I think they ever have. And that's taking blink allins into account yeah adepts don't take any skill............ Don't have to split shades in in multiple places, focus firing workers and canceling shades at the right moment while macroing at home. It's so easy, a monkey could do that. No offence man, but it's really not that hard. Unless the warp prism is under fire you can keep just warping in every cycle and shade them between patches. Litterally every protoss player right now can do it with no struggles, and once the adepts get in there they usually always win. That's an ez victory if I've ever seen one. That's just flat out lying but whatever, salt is going to be salty. Why can every protoss player win in such a convincing fashion. [citation needed]
I honestly think my memory is blanking out all the games that terran wins defends the allin, after protoss gets the warp in in the main
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On May 01 2017 03:01 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2017 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:On May 01 2017 02:55 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:54 Boggyb wrote:On May 01 2017 02:50 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:47 Boggyb wrote:On May 01 2017 02:45 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:44 Charoisaur wrote:
Neeb will probably win now. he has a good record against TRUE and Nerchio struggles in ZvP Nerchio is a mastermind tho, he always complain about protoss knowing perfectly that he can win ZvP anyways, in order to give confidence to the protosses and crush them. I doubt any pro player puts much stock into what another says about their worst match ups. That's why it's brilliant: even if they don't do it consciously, a part of them starts to think it, and in the public eyes if Nerchio wins he is that good, while if he loses it's just protoss being strong. Zergs and terrans hate protoss so much that they often use this tool to make them feel guilty :D There are vocal sections of the player base of each race that does that. If a Terran player beats a Zerg player, Terran is OP. If a Zerg player beats a Terran player, Zerg is OP. And so on and so forth. I don't put stock into what pro players say about balance because I don't trust or believe them. I can assure you that zergs and terrans unite against protoss. Like on Twitter both zergs and terrans pros would make fun of protoss for being the easy race. It's partially true, but you don't see protoss and zergs team up against terrans, because zergs and terrans both hate protoss the most and would rather play ZvT/TvZ. mmh I see protoss and zergs teaming up against terran from time to time. "LOL terrans just spam marines across the map all day. They don't want to make other units and expect to win with 1 unit." Maybe the idiots, but I'm talking about the pros there, not random redditors.
Nerchio is a pro so I don't know that you can make that distinction when talking about community input.
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*checks aligulac*
PvT is heavily terran favoured, 41%.
Ok.
You must have missed the bit where it says that the current period started 3 days ago.
TvZ is 43% but that matchup is hardly imbalanced.
The sample sizes are too small to draw any meaningful conclusions.
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On May 01 2017 03:03 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2017 03:01 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:On May 01 2017 02:55 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:54 Boggyb wrote:On May 01 2017 02:50 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:47 Boggyb wrote:On May 01 2017 02:45 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:44 Charoisaur wrote:
Neeb will probably win now. he has a good record against TRUE and Nerchio struggles in ZvP Nerchio is a mastermind tho, he always complain about protoss knowing perfectly that he can win ZvP anyways, in order to give confidence to the protosses and crush them. I doubt any pro player puts much stock into what another says about their worst match ups. That's why it's brilliant: even if they don't do it consciously, a part of them starts to think it, and in the public eyes if Nerchio wins he is that good, while if he loses it's just protoss being strong. Zergs and terrans hate protoss so much that they often use this tool to make them feel guilty :D There are vocal sections of the player base of each race that does that. If a Terran player beats a Zerg player, Terran is OP. If a Zerg player beats a Terran player, Zerg is OP. And so on and so forth. I don't put stock into what pro players say about balance because I don't trust or believe them. I can assure you that zergs and terrans unite against protoss. Like on Twitter both zergs and terrans pros would make fun of protoss for being the easy race. It's partially true, but you don't see protoss and zergs team up against terrans, because zergs and terrans both hate protoss the most and would rather play ZvT/TvZ. mmh I see protoss and zergs teaming up against terran from time to time. "LOL terrans just spam marines across the map all day. They don't want to make other units and expect to win with 1 unit." Maybe the idiots, but I'm talking about the pros there, not random redditors. Nerchio is a pro so I don't know that you can make that distinction when talking about community input.
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Have you ever see a pro seriously complaining about terran using only 1 unit?
This was shit since sC got crushed by NesTea and BitByBit a laughing stock among KR players
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On May 01 2017 03:03 pvsnp wrote:You must have missed the bit where it says that the current period started 3 days ago. TvZ is 43% but that matchup is hardly imbalanced. The sample sizes are too small to draw any meaningful conclusions.
Sure, but PvT has been hovering barely over 40% for MONTHS. With imba adepts. Still protoss hate is blind and everywhere.
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Does anyone really care if a race is 'OP'?
The games are fun.
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On May 01 2017 03:06 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2017 03:03 Nebuchad wrote:On May 01 2017 03:01 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:On May 01 2017 02:55 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:54 Boggyb wrote:On May 01 2017 02:50 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:47 Boggyb wrote:On May 01 2017 02:45 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:44 Charoisaur wrote:
Neeb will probably win now. he has a good record against TRUE and Nerchio struggles in ZvP Nerchio is a mastermind tho, he always complain about protoss knowing perfectly that he can win ZvP anyways, in order to give confidence to the protosses and crush them. I doubt any pro player puts much stock into what another says about their worst match ups. That's why it's brilliant: even if they don't do it consciously, a part of them starts to think it, and in the public eyes if Nerchio wins he is that good, while if he loses it's just protoss being strong. Zergs and terrans hate protoss so much that they often use this tool to make them feel guilty :D There are vocal sections of the player base of each race that does that. If a Terran player beats a Zerg player, Terran is OP. If a Zerg player beats a Terran player, Zerg is OP. And so on and so forth. I don't put stock into what pro players say about balance because I don't trust or believe them. I can assure you that zergs and terrans unite against protoss. Like on Twitter both zergs and terrans pros would make fun of protoss for being the easy race. It's partially true, but you don't see protoss and zergs team up against terrans, because zergs and terrans both hate protoss the most and would rather play ZvT/TvZ. mmh I see protoss and zergs teaming up against terran from time to time. "LOL terrans just spam marines across the map all day. They don't want to make other units and expect to win with 1 unit." Maybe the idiots, but I'm talking about the pros there, not random redditors. Nerchio is a pro so I don't know that you can make that distinction when talking about community input. ? Have you ever see a pro seriously complaining about terran using only 1 unit? This was shit since sC got crushed by NesTea and BitByBit a laughing stock among KR players
Just saying that it's very convenient that you can distinguish between idiots and pros when it fits your narrative when Nerchio routinely posts like an idiot on this forum.
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On May 01 2017 03:08 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2017 03:06 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 03:03 Nebuchad wrote:On May 01 2017 03:01 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:On May 01 2017 02:55 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:54 Boggyb wrote:On May 01 2017 02:50 Poopi wrote:On May 01 2017 02:47 Boggyb wrote:On May 01 2017 02:45 Poopi wrote:
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Nerchio is a mastermind tho, he always complain about protoss knowing perfectly that he can win ZvP anyways, in order to give confidence to the protosses and crush them. I doubt any pro player puts much stock into what another says about their worst match ups. That's why it's brilliant: even if they don't do it consciously, a part of them starts to think it, and in the public eyes if Nerchio wins he is that good, while if he loses it's just protoss being strong. Zergs and terrans hate protoss so much that they often use this tool to make them feel guilty :D There are vocal sections of the player base of each race that does that. If a Terran player beats a Zerg player, Terran is OP. If a Zerg player beats a Terran player, Zerg is OP. And so on and so forth. I don't put stock into what pro players say about balance because I don't trust or believe them. I can assure you that zergs and terrans unite against protoss. Like on Twitter both zergs and terrans pros would make fun of protoss for being the easy race. It's partially true, but you don't see protoss and zergs team up against terrans, because zergs and terrans both hate protoss the most and would rather play ZvT/TvZ. mmh I see protoss and zergs teaming up against terran from time to time. "LOL terrans just spam marines across the map all day. They don't want to make other units and expect to win with 1 unit." Maybe the idiots, but I'm talking about the pros there, not random redditors. Nerchio is a pro so I don't know that you can make that distinction when talking about community input. ? Have you ever see a pro seriously complaining about terran using only 1 unit? This was shit since sC got crushed by NesTea and BitByBit a laughing stock among KR players Just saying that it's very convenient that you can distinguish between idiots and pros when it fits your narrative when Nerchio routinely posts like an idiot on this forum.
Show me posts of him that you consider idiotic then
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Beautiful fungals and storming biles
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On May 01 2017 03:07 OsaX Nymloth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2017 03:03 pvsnp wrote:*checks aligulac*
PvT is heavily terran favoured, 41%.
Ok.
You must have missed the bit where it says that the current period started 3 days ago. TvZ is 43% but that matchup is hardly imbalanced. The sample sizes are too small to draw any meaningful conclusions. Sure, but PvT has been hovering barely over 40% for MONTHS. With imba adepts. Still protoss hate is blind and everywhere.
For the sake of accuracy, PvT was barely over 40% in December and January, approaching 50% in February and March, and will have been well over 50% in April.
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On May 01 2017 03:08 Ansibled wrote:
Does anyone really care if a race is 'OP'?
The games are fun.
Honestly man, it's just frustrating to watch players legitimately play amazing, and then lose to someone getting an ez-win with a broken allin. Especially when the player winning appears to be the weaker one it terms of talent.
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On May 01 2017 03:08 Ansibled wrote:
Does anyone really care if a race is 'OP'?
The games are fun.
I care if a race is OP because that results in a tournament being oversaturated with a specific race. While I prefer certain match ups to others, but I like seeing all of them.
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On May 01 2017 03:01 Noonius wrote:
Nate and Incontrol confirmed to cast the final
More like, Nate and Rotterdam.
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On May 01 2017 03:12 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2017 03:08 Ansibled wrote:
Does anyone really care if a race is 'OP'?
The games are fun. I care if a race is OP because that results in a tournament being oversaturated with a specific race. While I prefer certain match ups to others, but I like seeing all of them.
Tournaments haven't exactly been oversaturated with Protosses though.
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Nerchio has been doing pretty good in the big engagements, despite the rocky start.
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