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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
April 30 2017 18:18 GMT
#1681
On May 01 2017 03:18 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 03:17 Poopi wrote:
TRUE is so bad yet wins haha
Amazing.
Go Nerchio still

And yet Nerchio managed to lose.

Makes you ponder.

Yes in starcraft 2 there is enough variance for inferior players to win.
Is that surprising in 2017?
WriterMaru
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12341 Posts
April 30 2017 18:18 GMT
#1682
On May 01 2017 03:17 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 03:15 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:10 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:08 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:06 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:03 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:01 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:55 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:54 Boggyb wrote:
[quote]
There are vocal sections of the player base of each race that does that.

If a Terran player beats a Zerg player, Terran is OP.
If a Zerg player beats a Terran player, Zerg is OP.
And so on and so forth.

I don't put stock into what pro players say about balance because I don't trust or believe them.

I can assure you that zergs and terrans unite against protoss.
Like on Twitter both zergs and terrans pros would make fun of protoss for being the easy race.
It's partially true, but you don't see protoss and zergs team up against terrans, because zergs and terrans both hate protoss the most and would rather play ZvT/TvZ.

mmh I see protoss and zergs teaming up against terran from time to time.
"LOL terrans just spam marines across the map all day. They don't want to make other units and expect to win with 1 unit."

Maybe the idiots, but I'm talking about the pros there, not random redditors.


Nerchio is a pro so I don't know that you can make that distinction when talking about community input.

?
Have you ever see a pro seriously complaining about terran using only 1 unit?
This was shit since sC got crushed by NesTea and BitByBit a laughing stock among KR players


Just saying that it's very convenient that you can distinguish between idiots and pros when it fits your narrative when Nerchio routinely posts like an idiot on this forum.

Show me posts of him that you consider idiotic then


I won't, no.

How convenient


Don't really see what's convenient about that tbh.
No will to live, no wish to die
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33487 Posts
April 30 2017 18:19 GMT
#1683
Is TRUE equivalent to Shine or to Kwanro?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 30 2017 18:19 GMT
#1684
speedling all-in again lol
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
April 30 2017 18:19 GMT
#1685
On May 01 2017 03:17 djraphi23 wrote:
Nerchio is right. If he can reach later games without being too behind, he'll win. He's just a better overall player.

TRUE is better in early game micro so Nerchio isn't the "overall better player". He's maybe better in lategame but that's only one part of the game
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 30 2017 18:19 GMT
#1686
On May 01 2017 03:19 Waxangel wrote:
Is TRUE equivalent to Shine or to Kwanro?

He's definitely a Kwanro.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
April 30 2017 18:19 GMT
#1687
On May 01 2017 03:17 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 03:15 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:10 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:08 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:06 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:03 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:01 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:55 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:54 Boggyb wrote:
[quote]
There are vocal sections of the player base of each race that does that.

If a Terran player beats a Zerg player, Terran is OP.
If a Zerg player beats a Terran player, Zerg is OP.
And so on and so forth.

I don't put stock into what pro players say about balance because I don't trust or believe them.

I can assure you that zergs and terrans unite against protoss.
Like on Twitter both zergs and terrans pros would make fun of protoss for being the easy race.
It's partially true, but you don't see protoss and zergs team up against terrans, because zergs and terrans both hate protoss the most and would rather play ZvT/TvZ.

mmh I see protoss and zergs teaming up against terran from time to time.
"LOL terrans just spam marines across the map all day. They don't want to make other units and expect to win with 1 unit."

Maybe the idiots, but I'm talking about the pros there, not random redditors.


Nerchio is a pro so I don't know that you can make that distinction when talking about community input.

?
Have you ever see a pro seriously complaining about terran using only 1 unit?
This was shit since sC got crushed by NesTea and BitByBit a laughing stock among KR players


Just saying that it's very convenient that you can distinguish between idiots and pros when it fits your narrative when Nerchio routinely posts like an idiot on this forum.

Show me posts of him that you consider idiotic then


I won't, no.

How convenient


just jumping in here

wasn't Nerchio nominated in the LR shitposter power rankings? that should give one plenty of indication about his posts

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
April 30 2017 18:19 GMT
#1688
On May 01 2017 03:18 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 03:17 starkiller123 wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:17 Poopi wrote:
TRUE is so bad yet wins haha
Amazing.
Go Nerchio still


How is he so bad?

Almost lost that game


And if nerchio hadn't messed up his defense he wouldn't have lost, clearly he is so bad
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
April 30 2017 18:19 GMT
#1689
On May 01 2017 03:18 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 03:17 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:15 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:10 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:08 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:06 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:03 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:01 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:55 Poopi wrote:
[quote]
I can assure you that zergs and terrans unite against protoss.
Like on Twitter both zergs and terrans pros would make fun of protoss for being the easy race.
It's partially true, but you don't see protoss and zergs team up against terrans, because zergs and terrans both hate protoss the most and would rather play ZvT/TvZ.

mmh I see protoss and zergs teaming up against terran from time to time.
"LOL terrans just spam marines across the map all day. They don't want to make other units and expect to win with 1 unit."

Maybe the idiots, but I'm talking about the pros there, not random redditors.


Nerchio is a pro so I don't know that you can make that distinction when talking about community input.

?
Have you ever see a pro seriously complaining about terran using only 1 unit?
This was shit since sC got crushed by NesTea and BitByBit a laughing stock among KR players


Just saying that it's very convenient that you can distinguish between idiots and pros when it fits your narrative when Nerchio routinely posts like an idiot on this forum.

Show me posts of him that you consider idiotic then


I won't, no.

How convenient


Don't really see what's convenient about that tbh.

Because your whole argument rests on something you don't wanna prove.
Whereas in this same thread Scarlett complained against adepts, and not only because she is friend with MajOr.
WriterMaru
Kaewins
Profile Joined April 2013
Bulgaria138 Posts
April 30 2017 18:20 GMT
#1690
This looks like it will be a quick 3:0 and True hasn't shown anything special.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
April 30 2017 18:20 GMT
#1691
snooker is back on.... far more interesting than this zvz
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
April 30 2017 18:21 GMT
#1692
TRUE is good at what he does, but I hate him as a player.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 30 2017 18:21 GMT
#1693
And before that it was way worse for Protoss. But ok, still looking at threads and reading LR it seems like Protoss is usually having 8 spots in top8 of every tournament and have 95% winrate vs Terran with just amoving adepts. Protoss hate is unreal and truly disgusting, that triggers me. ~~

Haters will always hate, it's what they do. Doesn't change the facts.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 30 2017 18:22 GMT
#1694
On May 01 2017 03:21 Boggyb wrote:
TRUE is good at what he does, but I hate him as a player.

It's like watching a master player beat progamers
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
April 30 2017 18:22 GMT
#1695
Nerchio just needs to stabilize the early game and remain solid. He should win late game. But that's true for 95% of ZvZs he plays, and he never manages to do it, so I would predict against him atm
Writermaru pls
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 30 2017 18:22 GMT
#1696
On May 01 2017 03:17 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 03:12 pvsnp wrote:
Sure, but PvT has been hovering barely over 40% for MONTHS. With imba adepts. Still protoss hate is blind and everywhere.

Over the past ten weeks, the PvT winrates are as follows (reverse chronological):
52.79%
56.71%
49.75%
48.46%
54.37%

For an average of 52.42% over the past two and a half months. Which is to say that PvT has been hovering barely over 50% for MONTHS.

http://aligulac.com/periods/187/
http://aligulac.com/periods/186/
http://aligulac.com/periods/185/
http://aligulac.com/periods/184/
http://aligulac.com/periods/183/

I understand that Protoss had it very rough at the beginning of the year, but please get your facts straight.

And before that it was way worse for Protoss. But ok, still looking at threads and reading LR it seems like Protoss is usually having 8 spots in top8 of every tournament and have 95% winrate vs Terran with just amoving adepts. Protoss hate is unreal and truly disgusting, that triggers me. ~~


I don't hate protoss, I just can't stand them winning with adept allins. Especially when its players that aren't good at actual PvT
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 30 2017 18:23 GMT
#1697
Now it's an even game and Artur should take it from here.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 30 2017 18:23 GMT
#1698
On May 01 2017 03:22 Soularion wrote:
Nerchio just needs to stabilize the early game and remain solid. He should win late game. But that's true for 95% of ZvZs he plays, and he never manages to do it, so I would predict against him atm

Never? His ZvZ winrate is above 70% on aligulac
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 30 2017 18:23 GMT
#1699
On May 01 2017 03:22 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 03:21 Boggyb wrote:
TRUE is good at what he does, but I hate him as a player.

It's like watching a master player beat progamers


That norm for ZvZ isn't it?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12341 Posts
April 30 2017 18:24 GMT
#1700
On May 01 2017 03:19 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 03:18 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:17 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:15 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:10 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:08 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:06 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:03 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 01 2017 03:01 Poopi wrote:
On May 01 2017 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:
[quote]
mmh I see protoss and zergs teaming up against terran from time to time.
"LOL terrans just spam marines across the map all day. They don't want to make other units and expect to win with 1 unit."

Maybe the idiots, but I'm talking about the pros there, not random redditors.


Nerchio is a pro so I don't know that you can make that distinction when talking about community input.

?
Have you ever see a pro seriously complaining about terran using only 1 unit?
This was shit since sC got crushed by NesTea and BitByBit a laughing stock among KR players


Just saying that it's very convenient that you can distinguish between idiots and pros when it fits your narrative when Nerchio routinely posts like an idiot on this forum.

Show me posts of him that you consider idiotic then


I won't, no.

How convenient


Don't really see what's convenient about that tbh.

Because your whole argument rests on something you don't wanna prove.
Whereas in this same thread Scarlett complained against adepts, and not only because she is friend with MajOr.


What I said is obviously true and given that it's not your first time on this forum you already know that. I'm not going to invest any effort into proving the obvious when it's clear from your denegation of it that you've already decided to disagree with me for whatever reason (I don't even know what that reason is btw? What do you gain from denying such an obvious fact?)
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