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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 28 2016 18:19 GMT
#1061
On October 29 2016 03:19 JustPassingBy wrote:
Galactic Process, TY has this, Nerchio stands no chance.

Oh, does terran have a 100% win rate against zerg on this map?
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 28 2016 18:19 GMT
#1062
On October 29 2016 03:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
But how fast would TY kill Nerchio if he didn't back? Kind of hard to push fast against ravagers, meanwhile Nerchio could reinforce

he literally could've unsieged the tanks and amoved, but Starcraft is a game of limited information after all. TY didn't realize how ahead he was.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16022 Posts
October 28 2016 18:19 GMT
#1063
On October 29 2016 03:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
But how fast would TY kill Nerchio if he didn't back? Kind of hard to push fast against ravagers, meanwhile Nerchio could reinforce

nerchio had nothing at home, TY could have amoved and killed everything.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
October 28 2016 18:19 GMT
#1064
On October 29 2016 03:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
imo, Nerchio's time as a random player gave him a deeper understanding of the game and he pulls off stuff like this and people don't give him the credit he deserves.

everyone praised Nerchio's craftiness and grint.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
October 28 2016 18:20 GMT
#1065
On October 29 2016 03:18 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 03:17 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
So, is mech viable on this map? Doesn't look that way just from looking at the huge minimap full of bases, but that can be deceiving

The map is easy to split in half and easy to hold 8 gases with 1 army blob. TY goes mech always there now and it usually destroys every Zerg.

Are we talking about galactic process or new gettysburg?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 28 2016 18:20 GMT
#1066
On October 29 2016 03:19 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 03:19 JustPassingBy wrote:
Galactic Process, TY has this, Nerchio stands no chance.

Oh, does terran have a 100% win rate against zerg on this map?

It's a very hard ZvT map because of the combined factors of:
a) 3rax reaper
b) tank pushes towards the pocket 3rd
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
October 28 2016 18:20 GMT
#1067
On October 29 2016 03:19 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 03:17 Lyyna wrote:
On October 29 2016 03:15 Shellshock wrote:
On October 29 2016 03:14 Elentos wrote:
TY handled the one counter attack so poorly that Nerchio actually won this game.

yeah there is 0 chance Nerchio wins against that first push with no vipers. if TY had left a few units home to defend it would have been an easy win

Important to notice that Nerchio managed to kill a few supply depots immediately at the start of his counter attack, preventig TY from making any units

he could have used supply drops

Sure, but the point is mech players usually defend that kind of thing with their next production cycle ; here, TY couldn't have had any reinforcements earlier than ~~45 seconds later even with supply drops
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/459600-how-to-mech-them-cry-lyynas-mech-in-hots - The 2014 Mech guide ! http://www.twitch.tv/lyyna for stream and contact infos
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 28 2016 18:20 GMT
#1068
On October 29 2016 03:20 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 03:18 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2016 03:17 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
So, is mech viable on this map? Doesn't look that way just from looking at the huge minimap full of bases, but that can be deceiving

The map is easy to split in half and easy to hold 8 gases with 1 army blob. TY goes mech always there now and it usually destroys every Zerg.

Are we talking about galactic process or new gettysburg?

gettysburg

it's not viable on any other map imho
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17186 Posts
October 28 2016 18:20 GMT
#1069
On October 29 2016 03:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 03:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
imo, Nerchio's time as a random player gave him a deeper understanding of the game and he pulls off stuff like this and people don't give him the credit he deserves.

everyone praised Nerchio's craftiness and grint.

good to hear.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12907 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 18:21:08
October 28 2016 18:20 GMT
#1070
On October 29 2016 03:19 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 03:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
But how fast would TY kill Nerchio if he didn't back? Kind of hard to push fast against ravagers, meanwhile Nerchio could reinforce

he literally could've unsieged the tanks and amoved, but Starcraft is a game of limited information after all. TY didn't realize how ahead he was.

Pretty sure bots of today (AlphaGO types) would have made a better decision than TY tho
WriterMaru
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 28 2016 18:21 GMT
#1071
even though I see it every day sometimes queen range still surprises me.
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 28 2016 18:21 GMT
#1072
god I hate the widow mine
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
October 28 2016 18:21 GMT
#1073
2016, Blizzcon players still don't manually send their lings behind the mineral line.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
October 28 2016 18:22 GMT
#1074
Watch Nerchio overdrone and lose this game to the first push from TY
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
October 28 2016 18:22 GMT
#1075
On October 29 2016 03:17 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
So, is mech viable on this map? Doesn't look that way just from looking at the huge minimap full of bases, but that can be deceiving


The build was clearly meant to hit a timing and not go into a longer game, it would have worked if it weren't for the Roach runby causing enough damage to drag the game out. Once the Vipers are out and the Zerg can hold the main army back while abusing the immobility then the mech comp falls off so hard.

By the way the reason the Roach attack did as much as it did was because TY was supply blocked by the dead depot and had nothing in production when the Roaches streamed in, and no ability to even begin producing until the depots were rebuilt. Usually that could be cleaned up by the rallied production without taking such critical damage but it was a long time before TY got any units in place.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 28 2016 18:22 GMT
#1076
On October 29 2016 03:21 CruelZeratul wrote:
2016, Blizzcon players still don't manually send their lings behind the mineral line.


Pretty sure idra did this in 2012
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 28 2016 18:22 GMT
#1077
On October 29 2016 03:22 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 03:21 CruelZeratul wrote:
2016, Blizzcon players still don't manually send their lings behind the mineral line.


Pretty sure idra did this in 2012

idra was an elephant
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
October 28 2016 18:23 GMT
#1078
so many ded queens, Artur pls
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
October 28 2016 18:23 GMT
#1079
TY has ok harass
Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
October 28 2016 18:23 GMT
#1080
global finals with flying tanks...
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