On August 18 2016 20:12 Fango wrote: Did Zest just not practice for this match or what?
he just isn't very good
Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear. Today he just played poorly with the same build every time, it's like he didn't prepare at all.
Probably slumped down because of Taeja knocking him out of GSL. In 2014 Zest was probably the best player in the world until he was eliminated from Blizzcon and he just slumped down from there.
On August 18 2016 20:14 Inflicted wrote: For Patience to not make Blizzcon, he would have to lose in Ro4 and one of ByuN/herO/MyuNgSiK makes finals or GuMiho/Ryung/sOs/Rogue wins GSL
Or if Classic drops out of both tournaments, then two of those players
We live in a world where Patience makes Blizzcon. On the back of his performances in Korean leagues. Wow.
Literally 50/50 split in Zerg/Protoss representation in SSL at the moment. I think we need a few Terran whine threads to pop up and show those Zergs how good they actually have it.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
On August 18 2016 20:14 Inflicted wrote: For Patience to not make Blizzcon, he would have to lose in Ro4 and one of ByuN/herO/MyuNgSiK makes finals or GuMiho/Ryung/sOs/Rogue wins GSL
Or if Classic drops out of both tournaments, then two of those players
We live in a world where Patience makes Blizzcon. On the back of his performances in Korean leagues. Wow.
Patience is a big dark horse not only for an SSL championship, but also going into Blizzcon. Goddamn.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
Not really, he was looking strong through the groups so far. He started playing really badly when he lost that one game to Ryung and it cost him the tourney.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
Not really, he was looking strong through the groups so far. He started playing really badly when he lost that one game to Ryung and it cost him the tourney.
He played awful against Ryung before he played awful against TaeJa.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
Not really, he was looking strong through the groups so far. He started playing really badly when he lost that one game to Ryung and it cost him the tourney.
He played awful against Ryung before he played awful against TaeJa.
I just said that. He lost one game to Ryung triple proxy rax (strangelly enough that one map cost him the tourney) and then just played badly from there.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
Not really, he was looking strong through the groups so far. He started playing really badly when he lost that one game to Ryung and it cost him the tourney.
He played awful against Ryung before he played awful against TaeJa.
I just said that. He lost one game to Ryung triple proxy rax (strangelly enough that one map cost him the tourney) and then just played badly from there.
So his "slump" has nothing to do with losing to TaeJa in particular.
On August 18 2016 20:12 Fango wrote: Did Zest just not practice for this match or what?
he just isn't very good
Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear. Today he just played poorly with the same build every time, it's like he didn't prepare at all.
Probably slumped down because of Taeja knocking him out of GSL. In 2014 Zest was probably the best player in the world until he was eliminated from Blizzcon and he just slumped down from there.
Zest didn't play well. But neither did Patience play significantly better. PvP is silly. Yes, the better player won - in what looks like a fight where both fighters'' hands are tied behind their backs.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
Not really, he was looking strong through the groups so far. He started playing really badly when he lost that one game to Ryung and it cost him the tourney.
He played awful against Ryung before he played awful against TaeJa.
I just said that. He lost one game to Ryung triple proxy rax (strangelly enough that one map cost him the tourney) and then just played badly from there.
So his "slump" has nothing to do with losing to TaeJa in particular.
Losing to Ryung tilted him and then losing to Taeja was just ruined him further. It's like the same when he lost to Life a couple years ago after everyone saying he's gonna take Blizzcon, the next 6 months was just bad play.
I mean you really can't compare what he did in season 1 when he just looked unstoppable, now his momentum is crushed and he's playing like he doesn't even care. Like opening double oracle and getting now damage done every time.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
Not really, he was looking strong through the groups so far. He started playing really badly when he lost that one game to Ryung and it cost him the tourney.
He played awful against Ryung before he played awful against TaeJa.
I just said that. He lost one game to Ryung triple proxy rax (strangelly enough that one map cost him the tourney) and then just played badly from there.
So his "slump" has nothing to do with losing to TaeJa in particular.
Losing to Ryung tilted him and then losing to Taeja was just ruined him further. It's like the same when he lost to Life a couple years ago after everyone saying he's gonna take Blizzcon, the next 6 months was just bad play.
I mean you really can't compare what he did in season 1 when he just looked unstoppable, now his momentum is crushed and he's playing like he doesn't even care. Like opening double oracle and getting now damage done every time.
Didn't he after Blizzcon get top 4 immediately in the next tournament he played in (Hot6ix Cup)? I think he only really started slumping in 2015.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
Not really, he was looking strong through the groups so far. He started playing really badly when he lost that one game to Ryung and it cost him the tourney.
He played awful against Ryung before he played awful against TaeJa.
I just said that. He lost one game to Ryung triple proxy rax (strangelly enough that one map cost him the tourney) and then just played badly from there.
So his "slump" has nothing to do with losing to TaeJa in particular.
Losing to Ryung tilted him and then losing to Taeja was just ruined him further. It's like the same when he lost to Life a couple years ago after everyone saying he's gonna take Blizzcon, the next 6 months was just bad play.
I mean you really can't compare what he did in season 1 when he just looked unstoppable, now his momentum is crushed and he's playing like he doesn't even care. Like opening double oracle and getting now damage done every time.
Didn't he after Blizzcon get top 4 immediately in the next tournament he played in (Hot6ix Cup)? I think he only really started slumping in 2015.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
Not really, he was looking strong through the groups so far. He started playing really badly when he lost that one game to Ryung and it cost him the tourney.
He played awful against Ryung before he played awful against TaeJa.
I just said that. He lost one game to Ryung triple proxy rax (strangelly enough that one map cost him the tourney) and then just played badly from there.
So his "slump" has nothing to do with losing to TaeJa in particular.
Losing to Ryung tilted him and then losing to Taeja was just ruined him further. It's like the same when he lost to Life a couple years ago after everyone saying he's gonna take Blizzcon, the next 6 months was just bad play.
I mean you really can't compare what he did in season 1 when he just looked unstoppable, now his momentum is crushed and he's playing like he doesn't even care. Like opening double oracle and getting now damage done every time.
Didn't he after Blizzcon get top 4 immediately in the next tournament he played in (Hot6ix Cup)? I think he only really started slumping in 2015.
I'd say it was a start of a slump.
Actually I looked back at the matches and I think zest was slumping. That or zest was always bad at PvT at HotS. He prepared well, but did not seem to be on top of the games that he was not prepared
On August 18 2016 20:33 RKC wrote: Zest didn't play well. But neither did Patience play significantly better. PvP is silly. Yes, the better player won - in what looks like a fight where both fighters'' hands are tied behind their backs.
First game excepting Patience played significantly better to the where if the tags were reversed people would be going on about how Zest is back in form