On August 18 2016 18:30 Ej_ wrote: At this point, I'm starting to think that this double stargate build actually includes suiciding your 5 adepts into ling bane.
On August 18 2016 18:30 Ej_ wrote: At this point, I'm starting to think that this double stargate build actually includes suiciding your 5 adepts into ling bane.
On August 18 2016 18:31 Ej_ wrote: Solar is playing the most imbalanced composition btw
To be honest I am not sure why doesn't more Zergs do pushes like these against Protoss. They tend to overmake Roaches that are just food for Immortals and skip Banelings completely. The only reason Zergs weren't using Banes before against Protoss are force fields and now that we have Ravagers I really don't see the reason for not using them.
On August 18 2016 18:34 Noonius wrote: Life would have won with just lings
Something something Mvp.
even against Mvp?
who invented Mvp?
NesTea created the universe but then he got lazy so he created Mvp to invent everything else for him
Nestea sounds like me
apart from the creating part
It's how I would play Minecraft. Start a project that's way too big for me to complete alone in a reasonable time span, give up after a short time, delegate to someone else or just bury the whole thing and never play the game again.
On August 18 2016 18:43 opisska wrote: It's a little sadistic from them to hype the fact that we are going to watch the final demise of SKT next weekend
On August 18 2016 18:44 Elentos wrote: Man I remember when I had a LB streak of 10 correct votes earlier this season. Who did I upset to bring about the LB apocalypse on myself?
shouldn't have made fun of Mvp, the inventor of liquibets
On August 18 2016 18:43 opisska wrote: It's a little sadistic from them to hype the fact that we are going to watch the final demise of SKT next weekend
On August 18 2016 18:44 Elentos wrote: Man I remember when I had a LB streak of 10 correct votes earlier this season. Who did I upset to bring about the LB apocalypse on myself?
I'm currently at 18 correct votes in a row, though I haven't had a group 100% right in a long time. Also, I voted Dear, so that streak is likely to be broken
On August 18 2016 18:44 Elentos wrote: Man I remember when I had a LB streak of 10 correct votes earlier this season. Who did I upset to bring about the LB apocalypse on myself?
On August 18 2016 18:44 Elentos wrote: Man I remember when I had a LB streak of 10 correct votes earlier this season. Who did I upset to bring about the LB apocalypse on myself?
I'm currently at 18 correct votes in a row, though I haven't had a group 100% right in a long time. Also, I voted Dear, so that streak is likely to be broken
Until SKT 2-0'd Afreeca I didn't have a vote 100% right for like a month straight and with the way yesterday went and today is shaping up to go, I'm in for another month of terrible LBs
Also following the trend of my Liquibets, one of TY or Classic won't advance tomorrow.
On August 18 2016 18:44 Elentos wrote: Man I remember when I had a LB streak of 10 correct votes earlier this season. Who did I upset to bring about the LB apocalypse on myself?
my all-time record streak is 32 correct votes in a row
On August 18 2016 18:44 Elentos wrote: Man I remember when I had a LB streak of 10 correct votes earlier this season. Who did I upset to bring about the LB apocalypse on myself?
I'm currently at 18 correct votes in a row, though I haven't had a group 100% right in a long time. Also, I voted Dear, so that streak is likely to be broken
Until SKT 2-0'd Afreeca I didn't have a vote 100% right for like a month straight and with the way yesterday went and today is shaping up to go, I'm in for another month of terrible LBs
Also following the trend of my Liquibets, one of TY or Classic won't advance tomorrow.
your team ruined my bets and retrospectively my childhood
On August 18 2016 18:44 Elentos wrote: Man I remember when I had a LB streak of 10 correct votes earlier this season. Who did I upset to bring about the LB apocalypse on myself?
I'm currently at 18 correct votes in a row, though I haven't had a group 100% right in a long time. Also, I voted Dear, so that streak is likely to be broken
Until SKT 2-0'd Afreeca I didn't have a vote 100% right for like a month straight and with the way yesterday went and today is shaping up to go, I'm in for another month of terrible LBs
Also following the trend of my Liquibets, one of TY or Classic won't advance tomorrow.
your team ruined my bets and retrospectively my childhood
On August 18 2016 18:53 Ramiz1989 wrote: "Great Baneling hits"
10 Banelings went into Immortal with shield...
they do aoe so they actually kill everything around it too
No, those 10+ didn't do anything really, maybe got adept or 2 but that's it, if those killed what they were supposed to it would've been over 3 minutes before the game actually ended.
On August 18 2016 19:02 Elentos wrote: It's incredible how Zest can do whatever the fuck he did in his GSL group and still be the most feared player in Korea
I mean people can have off days but when someone like Zest wins he looks unbeatable.
On August 18 2016 19:02 Elentos wrote: It's incredible how Zest can do whatever the fuck he did in his GSL group and still be the most feared player in Korea
I mean people can have off days but when someone like Zest wins he looks unbeatable.
Even best Terran in world, and possible GOAT Maru only made one RO16 this year.
On August 18 2016 19:02 Elentos wrote: It's incredible how Zest can do whatever the fuck he did in his GSL group and still be the most feared player in Korea
I mean people can have off days but when someone like Zest wins he looks unbeatable.
On August 18 2016 19:02 Elentos wrote: It's incredible how Zest can do whatever the fuck he did in his GSL group and still be the most feared player in Korea
I mean people can have off days but when someone like Zest wins he looks unbeatable.
Even best Terran in world, and possible GOAT Maru only made one RO16 this year.
If you only make one RO16 you're not the best terran in the world
On August 18 2016 19:02 Elentos wrote: It's incredible how Zest can do whatever the fuck he did in his GSL group and still be the most feared player in Korea
I mean people can have off days but when someone like Zest wins he looks unbeatable.
Even best Terran in world, and possible GOAT Maru only made one RO16 this year.
What I gather from his fans is that that is mostly Blizzard's fault.
On August 18 2016 19:02 Elentos wrote: It's incredible how Zest can do whatever the fuck he did in his GSL group and still be the most feared player in Korea
I mean people can have off days but when someone like Zest wins he looks unbeatable.
Even best Terran in world, and possible GOAT Maru only made one RO16 this year.
If you only make one RO16 you're not the best terran in the world
On August 18 2016 19:02 Elentos wrote: It's incredible how Zest can do whatever the fuck he did in his GSL group and still be the most feared player in Korea
I mean people can have off days but when someone like Zest wins he looks unbeatable.
Even best Terran in world, and possible GOAT Maru only made one RO16 this year.
If you only make one RO16 you're not the best terran in the world
On August 18 2016 19:02 Elentos wrote: It's incredible how Zest can do whatever the fuck he did in his GSL group and still be the most feared player in Korea
I mean people can have off days but when someone like Zest wins he looks unbeatable.
Even best Terran in world, and possible GOAT Maru only made one RO16 this year.
If you only make one RO16 you're not the best terran in the world
Actually you are xD
Wow we have so many best Terrans in the world then
On August 18 2016 19:02 Elentos wrote: It's incredible how Zest can do whatever the fuck he did in his GSL group and still be the most feared player in Korea
I mean people can have off days but when someone like Zest wins he looks unbeatable.
Even best Terran in world, and possible GOAT Maru only made one RO16 this year.
If you only make one RO16 you're not the best terran in the world
Even TaeJa made two
It'll be a close race between Maru and TaeJa for Korean Terran of the year this year. TaeJa has the better individual accomplishments, but Maru has Proleague.
On August 18 2016 19:02 Elentos wrote: It's incredible how Zest can do whatever the fuck he did in his GSL group and still be the most feared player in Korea
I mean people can have off days but when someone like Zest wins he looks unbeatable.
Even best Terran in world, and possible GOAT Maru only made one RO16 this year.
If you only make one RO16 you're not the best terran in the world
Actually you are xD
Wow we have so many best Terrans in the world then
On August 18 2016 19:02 Elentos wrote: It's incredible how Zest can do whatever the fuck he did in his GSL group and still be the most feared player in Korea
I mean people can have off days but when someone like Zest wins he looks unbeatable.
Even best Terran in world, and possible GOAT Maru only made one RO16 this year.
If you only make one RO16 you're not the best terran in the world
Actually you are xD
Wow we have so many best Terrans in the world then
ByuN is the master of them all. Seriously tho, Maru's PL performance plus one RO16 is very good.
On August 18 2016 19:02 Elentos wrote: It's incredible how Zest can do whatever the fuck he did in his GSL group and still be the most feared player in Korea
I mean people can have off days but when someone like Zest wins he looks unbeatable.
Even best Terran in world, and possible GOAT Maru only made one RO16 this year.
If you only make one RO16 you're not the best terran in the world
Even TaeJa made two
It'll be a close race between Maru and TaeJa for Korean Terran of the year this year. TaeJa has the better individual accomplishments, but Maru has Proleague.
On August 18 2016 19:02 Elentos wrote: It's incredible how Zest can do whatever the fuck he did in his GSL group and still be the most feared player in Korea
I mean people can have off days but when someone like Zest wins he looks unbeatable.
Even best Terran in world, and possible GOAT Maru only made one RO16 this year.
If you only make one RO16 you're not the best terran in the world
Even TaeJa made two
It'll be a close race between Maru and TaeJa for Korean Terran of the year this year. TaeJa has the better individual accomplishments, but Maru has Proleague.
Look, Mvp exists. He's the best player in SC2 history. Maru can't be the best terran unless he's also the best ever player period. He's a few GSLs away from contention.
On August 18 2016 19:02 Elentos wrote: It's incredible how Zest can do whatever the fuck he did in his GSL group and still be the most feared player in Korea
I mean people can have off days but when someone like Zest wins he looks unbeatable.
Even best Terran in world, and possible GOAT Maru only made one RO16 this year.
If you only make one RO16 you're not the best terran in the world
Even TaeJa made two
It'll be a close race between Maru and TaeJa for Korean Terran of the year this year. TaeJa has the better individual accomplishments, but Maru has Proleague.
As of right now it's TY without any sort of argument
Maru is arguably the only terran who could overcome Mvp, or really make a dent into the current terran GOATs, but even that's super unlikely just because he's not a big individual league player on the scale of Mvp/Life or even Zest.
On August 18 2016 19:14 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Is this promo somewhere on Youtube? I kinda want to show it off to non-sc2 friends (I know, dirty heretics)
On August 18 2016 19:14 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Is this promo somewhere on Youtube? I kinda want to show it off to non-sc2 friends (I know, dirty heretics)
On August 18 2016 19:02 Elentos wrote: It's incredible how Zest can do whatever the fuck he did in his GSL group and still be the most feared player in Korea
I mean people can have off days but when someone like Zest wins he looks unbeatable.
Even best Terran in world, and possible GOAT Maru only made one RO16 this year.
If you only make one RO16 you're not the best terran in the world
Actually you are xD
Wow we have so many best Terrans in the world then
ByuN is the master of them all. Seriously tho, Maru's PL performance plus one RO16 is very good.
No it's terrible lol, great players win series anyone can cheese out a bunch of bo1s
On August 18 2016 19:14 Soularion wrote: Maru is arguably the only terran who could overcome Mvp, or really make a dent into the current terran GOATs, but even that's super unlikely just because he's not a big individual league player on the scale of Mvp/Life or even Zest.
On August 18 2016 19:14 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Is this promo somewhere on Youtube? I kinda want to show it off to non-sc2 friends (I know, dirty heretics)
On August 18 2016 19:14 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Is this promo somewhere on Youtube? I kinda want to show it off to non-sc2 friends (I know, dirty heretics)
you have friends? Ladder should be your only friend
With herO and Byun still in the running and Patience probably losing here, as well as Dear already out, that would give us a KR Top 8 of Dark, Zest, Stats, TY, Solar, Classic, herO, ByuN
On August 18 2016 19:13 Inflicted wrote: If Patience loses this, I think he's like 99% out of Blizzcon (need top 7 to be finalists for both SSL & GSL)
Yeah odds are he'll get overtaken if he drops out now
Sigh, these rankings used to be so much more fun with the old WCS, the predictor and stuff. Now I don't even know who is in the run for Blizzcon, not even what the rules are.
On August 18 2016 19:17 Olli wrote: With herO and Byun still in the running and Patience probably losing here, as well as Dear already out, that would give us a KR Top 8 of Dark, Zest, Stats, TY, Solar, Classic, hero, ByuN
That's a scary lineup.
TY already got bopped every time he tried leaving Asia so idk. Also you got the wrong hero
On August 18 2016 19:14 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Is this promo somewhere on Youtube? I kinda want to show it off to non-sc2 friends (I know, dirty heretics)
you have friends? Ladder should be your only friend
I know, I'm ashamed. But ladder recently lost me like 300mmr in few hours, so we're kinda in separation now
On August 18 2016 19:14 Soularion wrote: Maru is arguably the only terran who could overcome Mvp, or really make a dent into the current terran GOATs, but even that's super unlikely just because he's not a big individual league player on the scale of Mvp/Life or even Zest.
What? Wouldn't that be inno? Problem is mvp was here in the best era for terran in the most stable version of sc2.
On August 18 2016 19:17 Olli wrote: With herO and Byun still in the running and Patience probably losing here, as well as Dear already out, that would give us a KR Top 8 of Dark, Zest, Stats, TY, Solar, Classic, hero, ByuN
That's a scary lineup.
TY already got bopped every time he tried leaving Asia so idk. Also you got the wrong hero
Already fixed, and I wouldn't worry about TY too much.
On August 18 2016 19:17 Olli wrote: With herO and Byun still in the running and Patience probably losing here, as well as Dear already out, that would give us a KR Top 8 of Dark, Zest, Stats, TY, Solar, Classic, herO, ByuN
That's a scary lineup.
Dear will likely make it. He has a ton of points and still Ro8 in GSL
On August 18 2016 19:17 Olli wrote: With herO and Byun still in the running and Patience probably losing here, as well as Dear already out, that would give us a KR Top 8 of Dark, Zest, Stats, TY, Solar, Classic, herO, ByuN
That's a scary lineup.
I don't know how well BW hero will do at Blizzcon.
On August 18 2016 19:14 Soularion wrote: Maru is arguably the only terran who could overcome Mvp, or really make a dent into the current terran GOATs, but even that's super unlikely just because he's not a big individual league player on the scale of Mvp/Life or even Zest.
INnoVation is still active, you know.
Maru is four years younger than INnoVation. Presuming sc2 goes that long, it gives Maru a huge lead over any other terran; INno would need to win something like 2 big events a year to have any hope of overcoming Mvp.
On August 18 2016 19:14 Soularion wrote: Maru is arguably the only terran who could overcome Mvp, or really make a dent into the current terran GOATs, but even that's super unlikely just because he's not a big individual league player on the scale of Mvp/Life or even Zest.
What? Wouldn't that be inno? Problem is mvp was here in the best era for terran in the most stable version of sc2.
Mvp won a GSL when protoss were dominant and made another finals during BL/infestor. The metagame was constantly changing around him. Not sure how that was the most stable version of sc2
On August 18 2016 19:17 Olli wrote: With herO and Byun still in the running and Patience probably losing here, as well as Dear already out, that would give us a KR Top 8 of Dark, Zest, Stats, TY, Solar, Classic, herO, ByuN
That's a scary lineup.
I don't know how well BW hero will do at Blizzcon.
On August 18 2016 19:14 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Is this promo somewhere on Youtube? I kinda want to show it off to non-sc2 friends (I know, dirty heretics)
On August 18 2016 19:17 Olli wrote: With herO and Byun still in the running and Patience probably losing here, as well as Dear already out, that would give us a KR Top 8 of Dark, Zest, Stats, TY, Solar, Classic, herO, ByuN
On August 18 2016 19:14 Soularion wrote: Maru is arguably the only terran who could overcome Mvp, or really make a dent into the current terran GOATs, but even that's super unlikely just because he's not a big individual league player on the scale of Mvp/Life or even Zest.
What? Wouldn't that be inno? Problem is mvp was here in the best era for terran in the most stable version of sc2.
Mvp won a GSL when protoss were dominant and made another finals during BL/infestor. The metagame was constantly changing around him. Not sure how that was the most stable version of sc2
The only way you could claim that Sc2 was stable would be because Mvp was winning
On August 18 2016 19:17 Olli wrote: With herO and Byun still in the running and Patience probably losing here, as well as Dear already out, that would give us a KR Top 8 of Dark, Zest, Stats, TY, Solar, Classic, herO, ByuN
On August 18 2016 19:17 Olli wrote: With herO and Byun still in the running and Patience probably losing here, as well as Dear already out, that would give us a KR Top 8 of Dark, Zest, Stats, TY, Solar, Classic, herO, ByuN
That's a scary lineup.
Dear will likely make it. He has a ton of points and still Ro8 in GSL
On August 18 2016 19:14 Soularion wrote: Maru is arguably the only terran who could overcome Mvp, or really make a dent into the current terran GOATs, but even that's super unlikely just because he's not a big individual league player on the scale of Mvp/Life or even Zest.
What? Wouldn't that be inno? Problem is mvp was here in the best era for terran in the most stable version of sc2.
Mvp won a GSL when protoss were dominant and made another finals during BL/infestor. The metagame was constantly changing around him. Not sure how that was the most stable version of sc2
He won a billion GSL against MKP, TOP and the likes when there was a lot of terrans in the GSL. After that he scrapped some wins but wasn't really scary. Him being scary was during the terran era.
On August 18 2016 19:14 Soularion wrote: Maru is arguably the only terran who could overcome Mvp, or really make a dent into the current terran GOATs, but even that's super unlikely just because he's not a big individual league player on the scale of Mvp/Life or even Zest.
INnoVation is still active, you know.
Maru is four years younger than INnoVation. Presuming sc2 goes that long, it gives Maru a huge lead over any other terran; INno would need to win something like 2 big events a year to have any hope of overcoming Mvp.
Maru also has worse wrist and back issues than most Terrans so just because he's younger doesn't mean he'll stay around longer. Case in point being TaeJa.
On August 18 2016 19:14 Soularion wrote: Maru is arguably the only terran who could overcome Mvp, or really make a dent into the current terran GOATs, but even that's super unlikely just because he's not a big individual league player on the scale of Mvp/Life or even Zest.
INnoVation is still active, you know.
Maru is four years younger than INnoVation. Presuming sc2 goes that long, it gives Maru a huge lead over any other terran; INno would need to win something like 2 big events a year to have any hope of overcoming Mvp.
On August 18 2016 19:14 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Is this promo somewhere on Youtube? I kinda want to show it off to non-sc2 friends (I know, dirty heretics)
On August 18 2016 19:17 Olli wrote: With herO and Byun still in the running and Patience probably losing here, as well as Dear already out, that would give us a KR Top 8 of Dark, Zest, Stats, TY, Solar, Classic, herO, ByuN
That's a scary lineup.
Dear will likely make it. He has a ton of points and still Ro8 in GSL
Don't count sos out yet!!
Yeah he only has to do what he's never done and win GSL to qualify for Blizzcon.
I think the only player that has an outside chance of toppling Mvp as GOAT is Zest. Life could have done it due to longevity and play across three expansions but.. ughhh.
On August 18 2016 19:17 Olli wrote: With herO and Byun still in the running and Patience probably losing here, as well as Dear already out, that would give us a KR Top 8 of Dark, Zest, Stats, TY, Solar, Classic, herO, ByuN
That's a scary lineup.
Dear will likely make it. He has a ton of points and still Ro8 in GSL
Don't count sos out yet!!
Yeah he only has to do what he's never done and win GSL to qualify for Blizzcon.
On August 18 2016 19:24 Heartland wrote: I really like Rapid
Rapid is like the best Tasteless replacement you can ask for. You always need a guy like this imo.
Even when last year people were whining about Tasteless losing his passion he was still entertaining as fuck even if his game knowledge wasn't up to par.
On August 18 2016 19:20 Noonius wrote: remember this? Patience leaving DH with a big check back in 2013
I still remember that tournament. It was the first time i've heard of patience and he always talked politely and humble in the pregame interviews. He smashed Naniwa and Polt. His words in the interview before mma was something like "i hope mma hyung doesn't crush me too hard " and he proceeded to 2-0 MMA and Innovation
On August 18 2016 19:20 Noonius wrote: remember this? Patience leaving DH with a big check back in 2013
I still remember that tournament. It was the first time i've heard of patience and he always talked politely and humble in the pregame interviews. He smashed Naniwa and Polt. His words in the interview before mma was something like "i hope mma hyung doesn't crush me too hard " and he proceeded to 2-0 MMA and Innovation
On August 18 2016 19:24 dazed25 wrote: I think the only player that has an outside chance of toppling Mvp as GOAT is Zest. Life could have done it due to longevity and play across three expansions but.. ughhh.
Zest needs only one GSL to equal Mvp's 4, so he's quite far ahead of most others in the race
On August 18 2016 19:35 opisska wrote: Why did all protosses sign the gentleman's agreement to not build disruptors anymore?
because they suck vs people with fingers
I feel like they can be a good surprise now and then when people haven't been practicing against them because of the meta. I saw it in a few games recently where people just kept derping against them.
On August 18 2016 19:35 opisska wrote: Why did all protosses sign the gentleman's agreement to not build disruptors anymore?
we had some dodgeball recently but I got Valdez level memory so can't tell you what game exactly
Zounjwa vs Super & Stats vs Classic
me valdez you rotti
I do honestly admire the abilitiy to remember matches, I have almost zero of that. I remember like five most memorable games and even that very vaguely and the rest is in-and-out entertainment for me; the best I can to is vaguely like or hate a player for their stale, but I can never bring concrete evidence when did they use it.
On August 18 2016 19:35 opisska wrote: Why did all protosses sign the gentleman's agreement to not build disruptors anymore?
we had some dodgeball recently but I got Valdez level memory so can't tell you what game exactly
Zounjwa vs Super & Stats vs Classic
me valdez you rotti
I do honestly admire the abilitiy to remember matches, I have almost zero of that. I remember like five most memorable games and even that very vaguely and the rest is in-and-out entertainment for me; the best I can to is vaguely like or hate a player for their stale, but I can never bring concrete evidence when did they use it.
On August 18 2016 19:35 opisska wrote: Why did all protosses sign the gentleman's agreement to not build disruptors anymore?
we had some dodgeball recently but I got Valdez level memory so can't tell you what game exactly
Zounjwa vs Super & Stats vs Classic
me valdez you rotti
I do honestly admire the abilitiy to remember matches, I have almost zero of that. I remember like five most memorable games and even that very vaguely and the rest is in-and-out entertainment for me; the best I can to is vaguely like or hate a player for their stale, but I can never bring concrete evidence when did they use it.
I do seem to remember other stuff better than average tho, an interesting topic to learn more of
On August 18 2016 19:50 Olli wrote: Aaaaaaaaand adepts
Yeah. When I complain about adepts, I sometimes feel like I'm just balance whining because players I like lost. Then I watch adepts in PvP, and I'm like, "Nope, this is still really dumb."
Actually I had few PvP in recent times where my opponents went to proxy nexus instead of going for natural expansion, so it looks like I'm all-ined from 1base. Is EU ladder full of small sOs wannabe's or what.
On August 18 2016 20:08 opisska wrote: So much to the "Zest has a GOAT potential" discussion
a bad week doesn't change that. he still has an impressive resume and perhaps the only one from the current crop that can get there over the next year or two.
On August 18 2016 20:12 Fango wrote: Did Zest just not practice for this match or what?
he just isn't very good
Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear. Today he just played poorly with the same build every time, it's like he didn't prepare at all.
Probably slumped down because of Taeja knocking him out of GSL. In 2014 Zest was probably the best player in the world until he was eliminated from Blizzcon and he just slumped down from there.
On August 18 2016 20:14 Inflicted wrote: For Patience to not make Blizzcon, he would have to lose in Ro4 and one of ByuN/herO/MyuNgSiK makes finals or GuMiho/Ryung/sOs/Rogue wins GSL
Or if Classic drops out of both tournaments, then two of those players
We live in a world where Patience makes Blizzcon. On the back of his performances in Korean leagues. Wow.
Literally 50/50 split in Zerg/Protoss representation in SSL at the moment. I think we need a few Terran whine threads to pop up and show those Zergs how good they actually have it.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
On August 18 2016 20:14 Inflicted wrote: For Patience to not make Blizzcon, he would have to lose in Ro4 and one of ByuN/herO/MyuNgSiK makes finals or GuMiho/Ryung/sOs/Rogue wins GSL
Or if Classic drops out of both tournaments, then two of those players
We live in a world where Patience makes Blizzcon. On the back of his performances in Korean leagues. Wow.
Patience is a big dark horse not only for an SSL championship, but also going into Blizzcon. Goddamn.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
Not really, he was looking strong through the groups so far. He started playing really badly when he lost that one game to Ryung and it cost him the tourney.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
Not really, he was looking strong through the groups so far. He started playing really badly when he lost that one game to Ryung and it cost him the tourney.
He played awful against Ryung before he played awful against TaeJa.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
Not really, he was looking strong through the groups so far. He started playing really badly when he lost that one game to Ryung and it cost him the tourney.
He played awful against Ryung before he played awful against TaeJa.
I just said that. He lost one game to Ryung triple proxy rax (strangelly enough that one map cost him the tourney) and then just played badly from there.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
Not really, he was looking strong through the groups so far. He started playing really badly when he lost that one game to Ryung and it cost him the tourney.
He played awful against Ryung before he played awful against TaeJa.
I just said that. He lost one game to Ryung triple proxy rax (strangelly enough that one map cost him the tourney) and then just played badly from there.
So his "slump" has nothing to do with losing to TaeJa in particular.
On August 18 2016 20:12 Fango wrote: Did Zest just not practice for this match or what?
he just isn't very good
Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear. Today he just played poorly with the same build every time, it's like he didn't prepare at all.
Probably slumped down because of Taeja knocking him out of GSL. In 2014 Zest was probably the best player in the world until he was eliminated from Blizzcon and he just slumped down from there.
Zest didn't play well. But neither did Patience play significantly better. PvP is silly. Yes, the better player won - in what looks like a fight where both fighters'' hands are tied behind their backs.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
Not really, he was looking strong through the groups so far. He started playing really badly when he lost that one game to Ryung and it cost him the tourney.
He played awful against Ryung before he played awful against TaeJa.
I just said that. He lost one game to Ryung triple proxy rax (strangelly enough that one map cost him the tourney) and then just played badly from there.
So his "slump" has nothing to do with losing to TaeJa in particular.
Losing to Ryung tilted him and then losing to Taeja was just ruined him further. It's like the same when he lost to Life a couple years ago after everyone saying he's gonna take Blizzcon, the next 6 months was just bad play.
I mean you really can't compare what he did in season 1 when he just looked unstoppable, now his momentum is crushed and he's playing like he doesn't even care. Like opening double oracle and getting now damage done every time.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
Not really, he was looking strong through the groups so far. He started playing really badly when he lost that one game to Ryung and it cost him the tourney.
He played awful against Ryung before he played awful against TaeJa.
I just said that. He lost one game to Ryung triple proxy rax (strangelly enough that one map cost him the tourney) and then just played badly from there.
So his "slump" has nothing to do with losing to TaeJa in particular.
Losing to Ryung tilted him and then losing to Taeja was just ruined him further. It's like the same when he lost to Life a couple years ago after everyone saying he's gonna take Blizzcon, the next 6 months was just bad play.
I mean you really can't compare what he did in season 1 when he just looked unstoppable, now his momentum is crushed and he's playing like he doesn't even care. Like opening double oracle and getting now damage done every time.
Didn't he after Blizzcon get top 4 immediately in the next tournament he played in (Hot6ix Cup)? I think he only really started slumping in 2015.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
Not really, he was looking strong through the groups so far. He started playing really badly when he lost that one game to Ryung and it cost him the tourney.
He played awful against Ryung before he played awful against TaeJa.
I just said that. He lost one game to Ryung triple proxy rax (strangelly enough that one map cost him the tourney) and then just played badly from there.
So his "slump" has nothing to do with losing to TaeJa in particular.
Losing to Ryung tilted him and then losing to Taeja was just ruined him further. It's like the same when he lost to Life a couple years ago after everyone saying he's gonna take Blizzcon, the next 6 months was just bad play.
I mean you really can't compare what he did in season 1 when he just looked unstoppable, now his momentum is crushed and he's playing like he doesn't even care. Like opening double oracle and getting now damage done every time.
Didn't he after Blizzcon get top 4 immediately in the next tournament he played in (Hot6ix Cup)? I think he only really started slumping in 2015.
On August 18 2016 20:17 Fango wrote: Last season he didn't lose a single map vs protoss in Code S, even 4-0ing Dear
It was his only match against Protoss. Also he was already playing poorly by the time TaeJa eliminated him so that's not where a slump would have started.
Not really, he was looking strong through the groups so far. He started playing really badly when he lost that one game to Ryung and it cost him the tourney.
He played awful against Ryung before he played awful against TaeJa.
I just said that. He lost one game to Ryung triple proxy rax (strangelly enough that one map cost him the tourney) and then just played badly from there.
So his "slump" has nothing to do with losing to TaeJa in particular.
Losing to Ryung tilted him and then losing to Taeja was just ruined him further. It's like the same when he lost to Life a couple years ago after everyone saying he's gonna take Blizzcon, the next 6 months was just bad play.
I mean you really can't compare what he did in season 1 when he just looked unstoppable, now his momentum is crushed and he's playing like he doesn't even care. Like opening double oracle and getting now damage done every time.
Didn't he after Blizzcon get top 4 immediately in the next tournament he played in (Hot6ix Cup)? I think he only really started slumping in 2015.
I'd say it was a start of a slump.
Actually I looked back at the matches and I think zest was slumping. That or zest was always bad at PvT at HotS. He prepared well, but did not seem to be on top of the games that he was not prepared
On August 18 2016 20:33 RKC wrote: Zest didn't play well. But neither did Patience play significantly better. PvP is silly. Yes, the better player won - in what looks like a fight where both fighters'' hands are tied behind their backs.
First game excepting Patience played significantly better to the where if the tags were reversed people would be going on about how Zest is back in form
KT is preparing to get rekt by SKT. Zest carried them so hard on the past, I don't think TY can shoulder that weight.
But zest is a brilliant player, one of the best ever. And he has the mentality to come back. It's not like there are is ton of new blood pushing in, anyway. At least he was great before the adept, or I'd disrespect him so hard.
On August 18 2016 22:04 Darkhorse wrote: Lmao Patience in a Korean League semifinal
Back to back semifinals...
Patience wins SSL and Blizzcon - "wtf that guy can only mass adepts"
In response, Blizzard proposes the following balance changes: 1. Zerg and Terran can no longer produce anything other than harvesters. 2. Adepts can now mine minerals. Adept shields increased. Shade cooldown decreased. Adepts gain new ability to turn into warp prisms. Warp prism pickup range increased.
On August 18 2016 22:04 Darkhorse wrote: Lmao Patience in a Korean League semifinal
Back to back semifinals...
Patience wins SSL and Blizzcon - "wtf that guy can only mass adepts"
I'm absolutely amazed that no one has thrown around the immortal words "patch toss"
probably because he hasn't won anything yet and that although KR balance shifts heavily towards toss, it's very unclear overall if P is really broken. Don't get me wrong, I'd definitely like to see an adept nerf, but you won't convince me that either PvT or PvZ are seriously broken atm.
On August 18 2016 22:04 Darkhorse wrote: Lmao Patience in a Korean League semifinal
Back to back semifinals...
Patience wins SSL and Blizzcon - "wtf that guy can only mass adepts"
I'm absolutely amazed that no one has thrown around the immortal words "patch toss"
probably because he hasn't won anything yet and that although KR balance shifts heavily towards toss, it's very unclear overall if P is really broken. Don't get me wrong, I'd definitely like to see an adept nerf, but you won't convince me that either PvT or PvZ are seriously broken atm.
The day when Myungsik or Patience wins a Starleague, that's when it'll be clear that Protoss is broken.
On August 18 2016 22:04 Darkhorse wrote: Lmao Patience in a Korean League semifinal
Back to back semifinals...
Patience wins SSL and Blizzcon - "wtf that guy can only mass adepts"
I'm absolutely amazed that no one has thrown around the immortal words "patch toss"
probably because he hasn't won anything yet and that although KR balance shifts heavily towards toss, it's very unclear overall if P is really broken. Don't get me wrong, I'd definitely like to see an adept nerf, but you won't convince me that either PvT or PvZ are seriously broken atm.
The day when Myungsik or Patience wins a Starleague, that's when it'll be clear that Protoss is broken.
On August 18 2016 20:08 Inflicted wrote: Well Stats the only top 4 to not make it back
Nothing can get in the way of the KT slump.
If only swag_bro was here to tell us all about it.
No worries I will.
HAHAHA Zest lost again! What we need is another post from the other redviper that KT is just practicing for PL and all their players are just so good they don't need to win the individual leagues anymore.
On August 18 2016 20:08 Inflicted wrote: Well Stats the only top 4 to not make it back
Nothing can get in the way of the KT slump.
If only swag_bro was here to tell us all about it.
No worries I will.
HAHAHA Zest lost again! What we need is another post from the other redviper that KT is just practicing for PL and all their players are just so good they don't need to win the individual leagues anymore.
On August 18 2016 20:08 Inflicted wrote: Well Stats the only top 4 to not make it back
Nothing can get in the way of the KT slump.
If only swag_bro was here to tell us all about it.
No worries I will.
HAHAHA Zest lost again! What we need is another post from the other redviper that KT is just practicing for PL and all their players are just so good they don't need to win the individual leagues anymore.
swag_bro was art, this is just bad
you guys realize swag_Bro was 100% real in what he was saying right? He wasn't a troll.
On August 18 2016 20:08 Inflicted wrote: Well Stats the only top 4 to not make it back
Nothing can get in the way of the KT slump.
If only swag_bro was here to tell us all about it.
No worries I will.
HAHAHA Zest lost again! What we need is another post from the other redviper that KT is just practicing for PL and all their players are just so good they don't need to win the individual leagues anymore.
swag_bro was art, this is just bad
you guys realize swag_Bro was 100% real in what he was saying right? He wasn't a troll.
You're trying to swag_Bro us with that comment. Nice try, brah.
On August 18 2016 20:08 Inflicted wrote: Well Stats the only top 4 to not make it back
Nothing can get in the way of the KT slump.
If only swag_bro was here to tell us all about it.
No worries I will.
HAHAHA Zest lost again! What we need is another post from the other redviper that KT is just practicing for PL and all their players are just so good they don't need to win the individual leagues anymore.
swag_bro was art, this is just bad
you guys realize swag_Bro was 100% real in what he was saying right? He wasn't a troll.
This is just all the more food for the theory that he was a TL writers' collective alt
On August 18 2016 20:08 Inflicted wrote: Well Stats the only top 4 to not make it back
Nothing can get in the way of the KT slump.
If only swag_bro was here to tell us all about it.
No worries I will.
HAHAHA Zest lost again! What we need is another post from the other redviper that KT is just practicing for PL and all their players are just so good they don't need to win the individual leagues anymore.
swag_bro was art, this is just bad
you guys realize swag_Bro was 100% real in what he was saying right? He wasn't a troll.
On August 18 2016 20:08 Inflicted wrote: Well Stats the only top 4 to not make it back
Nothing can get in the way of the KT slump.
If only swag_bro was here to tell us all about it.
No worries I will.
HAHAHA Zest lost again! What we need is another post from the other redviper that KT is just practicing for PL and all their players are just so good they don't need to win the individual leagues anymore.
swag_bro was art, this is just bad
you guys realize swag_Bro was 100% real in what he was saying right? He wasn't a troll.
On August 18 2016 20:08 Inflicted wrote: Well Stats the only top 4 to not make it back
Nothing can get in the way of the KT slump.
If only swag_bro was here to tell us all about it.
No worries I will.
HAHAHA Zest lost again! What we need is another post from the other redviper that KT is just practicing for PL and all their players are just so good they don't need to win the individual leagues anymore.
swag_bro was art, this is just bad
you guys realize swag_Bro was 100% real in what he was saying right? He wasn't a troll.
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