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Just realizied that their were no threads about either ladder competitions that are going on for 4 more days so i will make 1 and put the top 16 for both here.
Top 20 EU GM as of Friday, Jul 01 3:25pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on July 5, 2016 5:59 EDT Top 16 EU GM at 11:30 AM EDT.  ShoWTimE - 1563  IIIIIIII (Neeb) - 1464  [ENCE]Welmu - 1462  Strange - 1381  Bly - 1379  [mYi]Serral - 1358  [TeS]souL - 1334  [aAa]DnS - 1324  [IESGI]Nerchio - 1264  [TeS]Guru - 1249  [MLTDWN]Stephano - 1216  MajOr - 1216  [TeS]Elazer - 1211  [nB]Basior - 1192  [isIMBA]Chabby - 1187  [ATSC2]uthermy - 1185
 [Inv]Lambo - 1184  LiquidBunny - 1181  [mYi]PtitDrogo - 1173  LiquidMaNa - 1155
Top 20 NA GM as of Friday, Jul 01 3:25pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on July 5, 2016 11:59 EDT Top 16 NA GM at 11:30 AM EDT.  [PSISTM]PiLiPiLi - 1176  [CrayS]Jason - 1174  [OE]Cham - 1118  [ROOT]Semper - 1088  Believe - 1050  EnvyusViolet - 1038  [TApro]DatBoiTesla - 1036  Hydra - 1026  [TApro]Pokebunny - 1021  GAMETIME - 1021  [RevoGG]Voltz - 1020  [Ting]Neeb - 979  [BearMe]PandaBearMe - 976  [TApro]Creature - 973  [CrayS]EJK - 965  [TApro]Bioice - 937
 [PSISTM]NoRegreT - 934  [ROOT]puCK- 929  [FSid3]JonSnow - 916  [TApro]Lucky - 880
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Surprised no one from EU is trying to qualify in NA as well.
Looks like only Neeb will play in both tournaments.
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On July 02 2016 00:41 CruiseR wrote: Surprised no one from EU is trying to qualify in NA as well.
Looks like only Neeb will play in both tournaments. You're not allowed to play in the ladder tournament of the other region IIRC.
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Australia18228 Posts
On July 02 2016 00:41 CruiseR wrote: Surprised no one from EU is trying to qualify in NA as well.
Looks like only Neeb will play in both tournaments.
This is for Regional Challengers, not NA/EU Ladder Heroes
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United States97276 Posts
Who will try and cheat the system this time?
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Italy3573 Posts
On July 02 2016 01:02 Shellshock wrote: Who will try and cheat the system this time? ...or, even better, who will be disqualified for 'ladder-fixing' to allow players who self-admittely did the exact same thing on the previous event(s) to move on?
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worth noting that I believe Cham is ineligible due to the fact that he participates in copa america? Not 100% sure about that but I think that's the case
edit: and neeb's barcode and major are ineligible for eu
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On July 02 2016 00:41 CruiseR wrote: Surprised no one from EU is trying to qualify in NA as well.
Looks like only Neeb will play in both tournaments. you can only play your home region
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United States97276 Posts
On July 02 2016 03:41 Pokebunny wrote: worth noting that I believe Cham is ineligible due to the fact that he participates in copa america? Not 100% sure about that but I think that's the case
edit: and neeb's barcode and major are ineligible for eu I'm pretty sure you are right because Major was saying he was ineligible for NA because of Copa last time and that's why he was playing so much on EU
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Neeb being top 16 at both ladders, what a baller.
I don't see you Snute.
Also, Mana being out of top 16 has almost the same amount of points of the number 1 spot of NA ladder. Why is this?
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On July 02 2016 05:55 alukarD wrote: Neeb being top 16 at both ladders, what a baller.
I don't see you Snute.
Also, Mana being out of top 16 has almost the same amount of points of the number 1 spot of NA ladder. Why is this? Snute is 33rd with 1038 points atm. Just hasn't played as many ladder games as the people ahead of him but has a 69.2% win rate
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On July 02 2016 05:55 alukarD wrote: Neeb being top 16 at both ladders, what a baller.
I don't see you Snute.
Also, Mana being out of top 16 has almost the same amount of points of the number 1 spot of NA ladder. Why is this? EU is just a harder region, well known fact
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Is Polt sick? Think I saw that said somewhere. Haven't seen him stream in a good while or just practicing?
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United States97276 Posts
On July 02 2016 07:02 Biscuittzz wrote: Is Polt sick? Think I saw that said somewhere. Haven't seen him stream in a good while or just practicing? someone posted a tweet that he and his girlfriend were celebrating their anniversary so he's probably just spending time doing real life stuff
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Here's about a 12 hour update for list Snute going strong. :D
Top 20 EU GM as of Friday, Jul 01 9:44pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on July 5, 2016 5:59 PM EDT Top 16 EU GM at 11:30 AM EDT.  ShoWTimE - 1563  IIIIIIII (Neeb) - 1474  [ENCE]Welmu - 1457  Bly - 1433  [IESGI]Nerchio - 1404  Strange - 1375  [TeS]souL - 1365  [ATSC2]uthermy - 1358  [mYi]Serral - 1358  [TeS]Elazer - 1321  [aAa]DnS - 1318  [TeS]Guru - 1292  Zanster - 1280  [Inv]Lambo - 1269  LiquidMaNa - 1259  [MLTDWN]Stephano - 1238
 MajOr - 1234  [HyperX]LiquidSnute - 1211  [nB]Basior - 1199  LiquidBunny - 1181
Top 20 NA GM as of Friday, Jul 01 9:44pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on July 5, 2016 11:59 PM EDT Top 16 NA GM at 11:30 AM EDT.  [PSISTM]PiLiPiLi - 1196  [CrayS]Jason - 1195  Hydra - 1191  [ROOT]Semper - 1181  [OE]Cham - 1118  [CrayS]EJK - 1084  Believe - 1060  [TApro]DatBoiTesla - 1068  [TApro]Bioice - 1051  [TApro]Creature - 1043  EnvyusViolet - 1038  [TApro]Pokebunny - 1021  GAMETIME - 1021  [RevoGG]Voltz - 1020  [FSid3]JonSnow - 1011  [Ting]Neeb - 979
 [BearMe]PandaBearMe - 976  [FSid3]Bails- 953  [PSISTM]NoRegreT - 934  [ROOT]puCK- 929
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In case anyone is wondering why scarlett isn't on NA yet 
Let's hope she gets her shit fixed
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Here's another update with 3 days left of grinding :D
Top 20 EU GM as of Saturday, Jul 02 1:45pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on July 5, 2016 5:59 PM EDT Top 16 EU GM at 11:30 AM EDT.  ShoWTimE - 1563  IIIIIIII (Neeb) - 1474  Bly - 1466  [ENCE]Welmu - 1457  [IESGI]Nerchio - 1455  [ATSC2]uthermy - 1411  Strange - 1401  [aAa]DnS - 1362  [mYi]Serral - 1358  LiquidMaNa - 1348  [TeS]souL - 1346  [TeS]Guru - 1339  MajOr - 1325  [Inv]Lambo - 1322  [TeS]Elazer - 1321  Zanster - 1319
 [MLTDWN]Stephano - 1303  [nB]Basior - 1270  [HyperX]LiquidSnute - 1269  [isIMBA]Chabby - 1218
Top 20 NA GM as of Saturday, Jul 02 1:45pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on July 5, 2016 11:59 PM EDT Top 16 NA GM at 11:30 AM EDT.  Hydra - 1316  [PSISTM]PiLiPiLi - 1305  [BearMe]PandaBearMe - 1230  [CrayS]Jason - 1229  [Ting]Neeb - 1219  [ROOT]Semper - 1198  EnvyusViolet - 1133  [OE]Cham - 1118  [RevoGG]Voltz - 1108  Believe - 1104  [TApro]Pokebunny - 1087  [TApro]Bioice - 1085  [CrayS]EJK - 1083  [ROOT]puCK - 1077  GAMETIME - 1065  [FSid3]JonSnow - 1065
 [TApro]DatBoiTesla - 1064  [TApro]Creature - 1043  [PSISTM]NoRegreT - 1018  [FSid3]Bails- 1008
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On July 02 2016 05:55 alukarD wrote: Neeb being top 16 at both ladders, what a baller.
I don't see you Snute.
Also, Mana being out of top 16 has almost the same amount of points of the number 1 spot of NA ladder. Why is this? europe points are inflated same as on aligulac (:
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On July 02 2016 09:02 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2016 07:02 Biscuittzz wrote: Is Polt sick? Think I saw that said somewhere. Haven't seen him stream in a good while or just practicing? someone posted a tweet that he and his girlfriend were celebrating their anniversary so he's probably just spending time doing real life stuff Yeah and Snute is almost already guaranted to go since he's in the top 8 of WCS.
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Scarlett can participate in Canadian National Qualifier and should get a spot easily there..
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United States97276 Posts
Here's your ~ 12 hour update since the last one
Top 20 EU GM as of Sunday, Jul 03 1:40am GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on Tuesday, Jul 05 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Top 16 EU GM at 9:40 PM EDT.  ShoWTimE - 1563  IIIIIIII (Neeb) - 1521  [IESGI]Nerchio - 1484  LiquidMaNa - 1475  [ATSC2]uthermy - 1470  [ENCE]Welmu - 1457  Bly - 1453  Strange - 1401  [TeS]Guru - 1391  [TeS]Elazer - 1388  Zanster - 1375  [mYi]Serral - 1358  [Invǂ]Lambo - 1345  [TeS]soul - 1343  Major - 1341  [MLTDWN]Stephano - 1339
 [nB]ShaDoWn - 1316  [mYi]PtitDrogo - 1307  Beastyqt - 1299  [aAa]DnS - 1284
Top 20 NA GM as of Sunday, Jul 03 1:40am GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on Wednesday, Jul 06 3:59am GMT (GMT+00:00)Top 16 NA GM at 9:40 PM EDT.  hydra - 1387  [PSISTM]PiLiPiLi - 1305  [Ting]Neeb - 1274  [CrayS]Jason - 1269  [ROOT]Semper - 1249  [BearMe]PandaBearMe - 1230  [ØE]Cham - 1210  [eLvSC2]MaSa - 1197  [FSid3]JonSnow - 1180  EnvyusViolet - 1159  [ROOT]puCK - 1156  [CrayS]EJK - 1152  GAMETIME - 1150  [TApro]Pokebunny - 1133  Believe - 1124  [RevoGG]Voltz - 1108
 [TApro]Bioice - 1094  [MirG]starkiller - 1091  [PSISTM]NoRegreT - 1065  [ROOT]Kelazhur - 1060
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All of the countdowns in you guys posts are off by 12h, it says 1 day 22 hours for NA at the time of this post when really it should be 2 days 10 hours.
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United States97276 Posts
On July 04 2016 02:17 Pokebunny wrote: All of the countdowns in you guys posts are off by 12h, it says 1 day 22 hours for NA at the time of this post when really it should be 2 days 10 hours. thanks. countdown works on the 24 hour clock if you don't specify AM or PM so it was just assuming AM for all of them ^^ should be fixed now
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On that note it's probably time for another update
Top 20 EU GM as of Sunday, Jul 03 5:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on Tuesday, Jul 05 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Top 16 EU GM at 1:30 PM EDT.  ShoWTimE - 1563  Bly - 1522  lIlIlIlIlIlI (Neeb) - 1521  [ATSC2]uthermy - 1518  LiquidMaNa - 1508  [IESGI]Nerchio - 1484  Strange - 1448  Major - 1439  [ENCE]Welmu - 1434  [nB]ShaDoWn - 1412  [TeS]soul - 1406  Zanster - 1393  [TeS]Elazer - 1388  [mYi]PtitDrogo - 1384  [Invǂ]Lambo - 1381  [IMI]MarineLorD - 1375
 [HyperX]LiquidTLO - 1362  [HyperX]LiquidSnute - 1359  [mYi]Serral - 1358  [MLTDWN]Stephano - 1328
Top 20 NA GM as of Sunday, Jul 03 5:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on Wednesday, Jul 06 3:59am GMT (GMT+00:00)Top 16 NA GM at 1:30 PM EDT.  hydra - 1412  [PSISTM]PiLiPiLi - 1357  [Ting]Neeb - 1348  [eLvSC2]MaSa - 1335  [ROOT]Semper - 1302  [ØE]Cham - 1269  [CrayS]Jason - 1258  [BearMe]PandaBearMe - 1230  [FSid3]JonSnow - 1227  GAMETIME - 1200  [PSISTM]NoRegreT - 1199  Believe - 1197  [CrayS]EJK - 1177  EnvyusViolet - 1159  [ROOT]puCK - 1156  [TApro]Pokebunny - 1140
 [RevoGG]Voltz - 1138  [TApro]DatBoiTesla - 1070  [ROOT]Kelazhur - 1060  [dPix]Scarlett - 1057
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I know R1CH made a dynamic tracker for the ladder cut off. Can't find it anymore, but it was hosted somewhere here.
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Australia18228 Posts
On July 04 2016 03:17 pundurs wrote: I know R1CH made a dynamic tracker for the ladder cut off. Can't find it anymore, but it was hosted somewhere here.
This? Not updated though
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On July 04 2016 04:05 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2016 03:17 pundurs wrote: I know R1CH made a dynamic tracker for the ladder cut off. Can't find it anymore, but it was hosted somewhere here. This? Not updated though yeah, should get R1CH's bot in here
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Would love to compete ;_; but final exams on Tuesday / Wednesday T_T
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United States97276 Posts
Top 20 EU GM as of Monday, Jul 04 2:10am GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on Tuesday, Jul 05 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Top 16 EU GM at 10:10 PM EDT.  lIlIlIlIlIlI (Neeb) - 1680  ShoWTimE - 1563  [ATSC2]uthermy - 1523  Bly - 1507  LiquidMaNa - 1500  [ENCE]Welmu - 1491  Strange - 1489  [IESGI]Nerchio - 1484  [mYi]PtitDrogo - 1457  [TeS]Elazer - 1453  [HyperX]LiquidSnute - 1450  [nB]ShaDoWn - 1447  Major - 1446  Zanster - 1416  [Invǂ]Lambo - 1412  [IMI]MarineLorD - 1405
 [TeS]soul - 1402  [HyperX]TLO - 1400  [dPix]Namshar - 1374  [aAa]DnS - 1371
Top 20 NA GM as of Monday, Jul 04 2:10am GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on Wednesday, Jul 06 3:59am GMT (GMT+00:00)Top 16 NA GM at 10:10 PM EDT.  hydra - 1435  [PSISTM]PiLiPiLi - 1412  [Ting]Neeb - 1348  [eLvSC2]MaSa - 1343  [ROOT]Semper - 1314  [ØE]Cham - 1284  [CrayS]Jason - 1247  EnvyusViolet - 1247  [FSid3]JonSnow - 1244  [BearMe]PandaBearMe - 1240  [CrayS]EJK - 1230  Believe - 1213  [TApro]Pokebunny - 1208  [PSISTM]NoRegreT - 1200  GAMETIME - 1191  [ROOT]puCK - 1156
 [RevoGG]Voltz - 1138  [TApro]DatBoiTesla - 1121  [TApro]Creature - 1103  [ØE]ByRada - 1101
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notables still waiting in the wings @ NA:
23 - Scarlett (1057) 28 - Bails (1008) 38 - Polt (886)
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Why isnt TRUE playing those? I thought he switched to NA.
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On July 04 2016 19:27 Yrr wrote: Why isnt TRUE playing those? I thought he switched to NA. think he needs to be there a month before he's allowed to play tournaments
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Neeb currently holding 1st place ladder rankings on both servers + highest winrate
What a monster. Just scary.
Bringing back memories of a little unknown toss named Naniwa who accomplished the same feat right before his period of dominance.
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On July 04 2016 19:34 FataLe wrote: Neeb currently holding 1st place ladder rankings on both servers + highest winrate
What a monster. Just scary.
Bringing back memories of a little unknown toss named Naniwa who accomplished the same feat right before his period of dominance.
I mean Naniwa was never really unknown... He was a WC3 Pro
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On July 04 2016 19:58 Railgan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2016 19:34 FataLe wrote: Neeb currently holding 1st place ladder rankings on both servers + highest winrate
What a monster. Just scary.
Bringing back memories of a little unknown toss named Naniwa who accomplished the same feat right before his period of dominance. I mean Naniwa was never really unknown... He was a WC3 Pro There's always that one guy..
You know what I mean
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challenger gonna b real hard fam
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On July 04 2016 23:38 Scarlett` wrote:challenger gonna b real hard fam ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SKDV9i3.png)
Ultras dont need micro
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Top 20 EU GM as of Monday, Jul 04 4:20pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on Tuesday, Jul 05 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Top 16 EU GM at 12:20 PM EDT.  ShoWTimE - 1690  lIlIlIlIlIlI (Neeb) - 1680  Bly - 1561  [ATSC2]uthermy - 1560  Strange - 1552  [IESGI]Nerchio - 1539  Beastyqt - 1503  [HyperX]LiquidSnute - 1494  [ENCE]Welmu - 1491  [TeS]Elazer - 1479  Major - 1476  [TeS]Guru - 1470  [mYi]PtitDrogo - 1457  LiquidMaNa - 1456  Zanster - 1447  [nB]ShaDoWn - 1447
 [IMI]MarineLorD - 1439  [HyperX]LiquidTLO - 1435  [Invǂ]Lambo - 1430  [IESGI]DeMusliM - 1426
Top 20 NA GM as of Sunday, Jul 03 4:20pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on Wednesday, Jul 06 3:59am GMT (GMT+00:00)Top 16 NA GM at 12:20 PM EDT.  [Ting]Neeb - 1540  [PSISTM]PiLiPiLi - 1478  hydra - 1435  [eLvSC2]MaSa - 1343  [ROOT]Semper - 1337  [BearMe]PandaBearMe - 1315  [ØE]Cham - 1312  [dPix]Scarlett - 1259  [FSid3]JonSnow - 1259  [ROOT]puCK - 1254  [RevoGG]Voltz - 1247  EnvyusViolet - 1247  [CrayS]Jason - 1246  [TApro]Pokebunny - 1238  [CrayS]EJK - 1230  [PSISTM]NoRegreT - 1202
 EnVyUsPolt - 1198  GAMETIME - 1145  [TApro]Creature - 1145  Believe - 1142
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United States97276 Posts
We're on the last day
Top 20 EU GM as of Tuesday, Jul 05 3:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on Tuesday, Jul 05 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Top 16 EU GM at 11:30 PM EDT.  lIlIlIlIlIlI (Neeb) - 1704  ShoWTimE - 1690  [HyperX]LiquidSnute - 1614  [ATSC2]uthermy - 1611  Bly - 1597  Strange - 1567  [IESGI]Nerchio - 1556  [ENCE]Welmu - 1536  [mYi]PtitDrogo - 1534  [TeS]Elazer - 1532  [nB]ShaDoWn - 1519  Beastyqt - 1503  [TeS]soul - 1480  [Invǂ]Lambo - 1477  Major - 1476  Zanster - 1470
 [RevoGG]SortOf - 1470  [HyperX]LiquidTLO - 1466  [TeS]Guru - 1464  Liquid MaNa - 1454
Top 20 NA GM as of Monday, Jul 04 3:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on Wednesday, Jul 06 3:59am GMT (GMT+00:00)Top 16 NA GM at 11:30 PM EDT.  [Ting]Neeb - 1678  [PSISTM]PiLiPiLi - 1525  hydra - 1477  [eLvSC2]MaSa - 1407  [ØE]Cham - 1360  [ROOT]Semper - 1344  [CrayS]Jason - 1320  [BearMe]PandaBearMe - 1315  EnVyUsPolt - 1313  [FSid3]JonSnow - 1311  [TApro]Pokebunny - 1286  [ROOT]puCK - 1285  EnvyusViolet - 1261  [dPix]Scarlett - 1259  [RevoGG]Voltz - 1235  [CrayS]EJK - 1230
 [PSISTM]NoRegreT - 1218  [FSid3]Bails - 1213  [TApro]Creature - 1180  GAMETIME - 1154
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gogo scarlett fight the ping!
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somebody hold me, I'm getting scared again
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Why is True not trying? Isnt he in the US right now?
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On July 05 2016 15:45 fealx wrote: Why is True not trying? Isnt he in the US right now? He's 24th on the NA ladder atm
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Meanwhile State is 71st with 41 wins and 3 losses :'(
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true isn't allowed because apparently he hasn't been in NA for long enough
state is cutting it awfully close, though I believe his account started fresh MMR this season which is why his record is so good
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On July 05 2016 22:50 Pokebunny wrote: true isn't allowed because apparently he hasn't been in NA for long enough
state is cutting it awfully close, though I believe his account started fresh MMR this season which is why his record is so good
I know that's why his record is so good, otherwise he would have more points than this, but still sad to not see him play enough to get in. I don't see him much these days, he was more active at the beginning of the year and got close to qualifying many times.
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Rooting for Scarlett, Poke and DatBoiTesla!
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On July 05 2016 22:55 ploguidice wrote: Rooting for Scarlett, Poke and DatBoiTesla! thanks buddy
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Why is kelazhur not trying btw?
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On July 05 2016 23:00 Inflicted wrote:He's part of Latin America region
Yes but theres no challenger for just Latin America, i'm pretty sure he can still play in this
edit : i must have confused 2 different types of qualifiers because i thought he played in challenger back for wcs winter, guess i was wrong Wish it could be both Major and Kelazhur or even Cham as well, they're all worthy of top 16 right now and only one can go
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WTF seriously Neeb? What a beast.
Come on Scarlett!
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On July 05 2016 23:01 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2016 23:00 Inflicted wrote:On July 05 2016 22:58 ArtyK wrote: Why is kelazhur not trying btw? He's part of Latin America region Yes but theres no challenger for just Latin America, i'm pretty sure he can still play in this edit : i must have confused 2 different types of qualifiers because i thought he played in challenger back for wcs winter, guess i was wrong Wish it could be both Major and Kelazhur or even Cham as well, they're all worthy of top 16 right now and only one can go  copa america is the equivelant for latin america and they can play in the NA server qualifiers later
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On July 05 2016 23:35 Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2016 23:01 ArtyK wrote:On July 05 2016 23:00 Inflicted wrote:On July 05 2016 22:58 ArtyK wrote: Why is kelazhur not trying btw? He's part of Latin America region Yes but theres no challenger for just Latin America, i'm pretty sure he can still play in this edit : i must have confused 2 different types of qualifiers because i thought he played in challenger back for wcs winter, guess i was wrong Wish it could be both Major and Kelazhur or even Cham as well, they're all worthy of top 16 right now and only one can go  copa america is the equivelant for latin america and they can play in the NA server qualifiers later
Yeah the NA server qualifier is what i mixed it up with.
GL in the bracket btw
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Thats nute though, going from absent to 3rd in...36h? or so. What a beast. Also Mlord come on get in there, I need 1 terran to cheer for :D But really credit to whoever came up with this idea, its great!
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EU coming close to the end so here's another update :D!!!
Top 20 EU GM as of Wednesday, Jul 06 3:50am GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on Tuesday, Jul 05 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Top 16 EU GM at 11:30 PM EDT.  lIlIlIlIlIlI (Neeb) - 1704  ShoWTimE - 1695  [HyperX]LiquidSnute - 1664  [ATSC2]uthermy - 1652  Bly - 1650  [IESGI]Nerchio - 1636  Strange - 1575  [TeS]Elazer - 1558  [ENCE]Welmu - 1557  Beastyqt - 1552  [Invǂ]Lambo - 1539  [mYi]PtitDrogo - 1534  [HyperX]LiquidTLO - 1520  [TeS]Guru - 1520  [nB]ShaDoWn - 1519  [RevoGG]SortOf - 1515
 [IMI]MarineLorD - 1514  [TeS]soul - 1499  [IESGI]DeMusliM - 1493  [MLTDWN]Stephano - 1466
Top 20 NA GM as of Wednesday, Jul 06 3:50am GMT (GMT+00:00)Ladder competition ends on Wednesday, Jul 06 3:59am GMT (GMT+00:00)Top 16 NA GM at 11:30 PM EDT.  [Ting]Neeb - 1710  [PSISTM]PiLiPiLi - 1515  [eLvSC2]MaSa - 1482  hydra - 1477  EnVyUsPolt - 1389  [ØE]Cham - 1362  [ROOT]puCK - 1355  [BearMe]PandaBearMe - 1352  [ROOT]Semper - 1344  [dPix]Scarlett - 1336  [FSid3]JonSnow - 1334  [CrayS]Jason - 1320  [TApro]Pokebunny - 1286  [PSISTM]NoRegreT - 1273  EnvyusViolet - 1261  [FSid3]Bails - 1238
 [OE]ByRada - 1235  [RevoGG]Voltz - 1235  [CrayS]EJK - 1230  [FSid3]cSaroVati - 1206
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I think neeb is pretty safe for making top 16 on the NA ladder gap between him and Pilipili at #2 is bigger than the gap from #16 Bails to #33 Bioice
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State has started his run, he has time if he wins a lot but certainly cutting it close again...
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On July 06 2016 03:38 Pokebunny wrote: State has started his run, he has time if he wins a lot but certainly cutting it close again... TRUE doesn't count right and bud your making me worried your on the edge. Also ByRada is latin so atm #16 seed is Voltz!!!
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On July 06 2016 03:46 SNSeigifried wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 03:38 Pokebunny wrote: State has started his run, he has time if he wins a lot but certainly cutting it close again... TRUE doesn't count right and bud your making me worried your on the edge. Also ByRada is latin so atm #16 seed is Voltz!!! Yep, at work all day, trust me, I'm freakin out here too. Will be home in a few hours though to spend my last bit of bonus, hoping ~1300-1320 will be enough, but doubting it will.. Depends on if State makes it up there in time. Bails will pass me, EJK is a tossup, Voltz also a tossup but less likely than EJK. Everyone below that has an outside shot, I don't really think anyone else is good enough to make a huge jump unless they get really hot. Worth noting that EJK hasn't played in two days so he has like 50 bonus pool. And correct, True is not eligible
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I think Scarlett is playing with fire, stopping when she did. Let's hope it will be enough.
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On July 06 2016 04:07 noego wrote: I think Scarlett is playing with fire, stopping when she did. Let's hope it will be enough. Don't think she is done for good, she probably went to sleep and will wake up in a few hours and see if she needs to play more
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Well, not really Serral :D
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Is Stephano going to make it or not?
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On July 06 2016 04:57 Aeromi wrote: Is Stephano going to make it or not?
Most likely not
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On July 06 2016 04:58 ArtyK wrote:Most likely not He just 2-0 Harstem but I think it is too late for him
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Neeb losing game after game on EU at the moment. So unfortunate. Only two hours left and he is loosing so many points.
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On July 06 2016 05:06 Kafka777 wrote: Neeb losing game after game on EU at the moment. So unfortunate. Only two hours left and he is loosing so many points. not like they mean anything to him on EU
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On July 06 2016 05:09 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 05:06 Kafka777 wrote: Neeb losing game after game on EU at the moment. So unfortunate. Only two hours left and he is loosing so many points. not like they mean anything to him on EU So I'm still not clear on this. Is it the top 16 eligible players that qualify? Or do only eligible players who are ranked in the top 16 qualify?
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On July 06 2016 05:16 frazzle wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 05:09 Alchemik wrote:On July 06 2016 05:06 Kafka777 wrote: Neeb losing game after game on EU at the moment. So unfortunate. Only two hours left and he is loosing so many points. not like they mean anything to him on EU So I'm still not clear on this. Is it the top 16 eligible players that qualify? Or do only eligible players who are ranked in the top 16 qualify? Top 16 eligible players.
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Poor MaNa. was as high as rank 4 a few days ago and is now nowhere close to qualifying
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On July 06 2016 05:22 Shellshock wrote: Poor MaNa. was as high as rank 4 a few days ago and is now nowhere close to qualifying yeah, this is sad:
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Stephano 4 - 1 Harstem
He's playing him again, this time on Dusk Towers.
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ranks 16, 17, and 18 are all within 3 points of each other. 2 of those spots will qualify since Neeb is ineligible and in the top 16 on EU
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8th game between Stephano and Harstem, score is 4-3
neither of them really has a shot at top 16 though
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Too bad it's not possible to spectate ladder games
Blizzard should add a "top ladder games to spectate" in-client during these qualifiers
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freaking Guru is in top 16 and yet Harstem isn't
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TLO is top 16
11.25 PM CEST : Elazer out
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Stephano is making it closer than i thought he would, even harstem cant keep up :D
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On July 06 2016 06:38 ArtyK wrote: Stephano is making it closer than i thought he would, even harstem cant keep up :D only 24 points behind Beastyqt for the last spot on the last rankedftw update playing against Masa right now and trying to end it as quick as possible
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The fact that Stephano seems to be actually trying is confusing to me.
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On July 06 2016 06:42 Elentos wrote: The fact that Stephano seems to be actually trying is confusing to me.
Because he didnt need to try to still win back in the days
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On July 06 2016 06:42 Elentos wrote: The fact that Stephano seems to be actually trying is confusing to me. Why?
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On July 06 2016 06:42 Elentos wrote: The fact that Stephano seems to be actually trying is confusing to me. that's how low he's fallen
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not sure Stephano is going to have time for another game the way this is going. Wasn't able to kill off Masa early and now the game is dragging out with just 15 min left
nvm he's just dead. he's done
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Now the question is if elazer or heromarine can steal that top 17 spot from beasty
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Heromarine probably has a better chance of winning a game in under 10 min
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Stephano is out.
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I'm pretty sure elazer had a decent spot and screwed it over by playing 2 more games and losing them
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So it's a battle between TLO and Beastyqt.
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and beastyqt gets thrown out of top 16
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it was heromarine that jumped them all and it looks like Elazer lost another game so he was pretty far back
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Tried catching up to showtime but got terraned a few times, zerg has a tough time these days
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On July 06 2016 07:00 Nerchio wrote:Tried catching up to showtime but got terraned a few times, zerg has a tough time these days 
Yeah the top 16 looks that way
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looks like TLO made the right decision to stop playing
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On July 06 2016 07:01 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 07:00 Nerchio wrote:Tried catching up to showtime but got terraned a few times, zerg has a tough time these days  Yeah the top 16 looks that way It's just ladder it doesn't really tell anything about balance except the fact that showtime and neeb both have 76%
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On July 06 2016 07:02 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 07:01 ArtyK wrote:On July 06 2016 07:00 Nerchio wrote:Tried catching up to showtime but got terraned a few times, zerg has a tough time these days  Yeah the top 16 looks that way It's just ladder it doesn't really tell anything about balance except the fact that showtime and neeb both have 76% 
But, but neeb literal god
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hurry up and tell us the matchups blizzard!
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On July 06 2016 07:02 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 07:01 ArtyK wrote:On July 06 2016 07:00 Nerchio wrote:Tried catching up to showtime but got terraned a few times, zerg has a tough time these days  Yeah the top 16 looks that way It's just ladder it doesn't really tell anything about balance except the fact that showtime and neeb both have 76%  At least there's still hope for Zerg, that Nerchio guy isn't far behind on the win rate. Imagine a world without that guy. Just impossible.
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On July 06 2016 07:06 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 07:02 Nerchio wrote:On July 06 2016 07:01 ArtyK wrote:On July 06 2016 07:00 Nerchio wrote:Tried catching up to showtime but got terraned a few times, zerg has a tough time these days  Yeah the top 16 looks that way It's just ladder it doesn't really tell anything about balance except the fact that showtime and neeb both have 76%  At least there's still hope for Zerg, that Nerchio guy isn't far behind on the win rate.
Nah hes supposed to have 100% winrate this isn't right
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On July 06 2016 07:08 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 07:06 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2016 07:02 Nerchio wrote:On July 06 2016 07:01 ArtyK wrote:On July 06 2016 07:00 Nerchio wrote:Tried catching up to showtime but got terraned a few times, zerg has a tough time these days  Yeah the top 16 looks that way It's just ladder it doesn't really tell anything about balance except the fact that showtime and neeb both have 76%  At least there's still hope for Zerg, that Nerchio guy isn't far behind on the win rate. Nah hes supposed to have 100% winrate this isn't right You seem a little bit salty, no need to be like that my friend
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On July 06 2016 07:08 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 07:06 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2016 07:02 Nerchio wrote:On July 06 2016 07:01 ArtyK wrote:On July 06 2016 07:00 Nerchio wrote:Tried catching up to showtime but got terraned a few times, zerg has a tough time these days  Yeah the top 16 looks that way It's just ladder it doesn't really tell anything about balance except the fact that showtime and neeb both have 76%  At least there's still hope for Zerg, that Nerchio guy isn't far behind on the win rate. Nah hes supposed to have 100% winrate this isn't right Those losses are just acts of mercy to the peasants of EU ladder. A true king knows how to keep the people happy.
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On July 06 2016 07:09 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 07:08 ArtyK wrote:On July 06 2016 07:06 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2016 07:02 Nerchio wrote:On July 06 2016 07:01 ArtyK wrote:On July 06 2016 07:00 Nerchio wrote:Tried catching up to showtime but got terraned a few times, zerg has a tough time these days  Yeah the top 16 looks that way It's just ladder it doesn't really tell anything about balance except the fact that showtime and neeb both have 76%  At least there's still hope for Zerg, that Nerchio guy isn't far behind on the win rate. Nah hes supposed to have 100% winrate this isn't right You seem a little bit salty, no need to be like that my friend
Nah im just enjoying your slight zerg bias, youre actually my favorite zerg player since wol :p But i do disagree with how weak you often see your race :p
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Not only is there entertainment in following the rankings, you can get extra fun from the salty tweets after it's ended and the people who didn't qualify are mad about losing to cheese. :D
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On July 06 2016 07:16 Rehio wrote: Not only is there entertainment in following the rankings, you can get extra fun from the salty tweets after it's ended and the people who didn't qualify are mad about losing to cheese. :D I can understand the frustration when you might get +5 and lose -20
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and just to note TLO should be in because the barcode is Neeb
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On July 06 2016 07:26 Shellshock wrote: and just to note TLO should be in because the barcode is Neeb or to put it better, rank 1 is not eligible because of barcode, so players rank 2 to 17 are in
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On July 06 2016 07:30 miniskirt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 07:26 Shellshock wrote: and just to note TLO should be in because the barcode is Neeb or to put it better, rank 1 is not elligible because of barcode, so players rank 2 to 17 are in
in this case its both because of barcode and the fact that neeb is eligible on NA not EU
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On July 06 2016 07:30 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 07:30 miniskirt wrote:On July 06 2016 07:26 Shellshock wrote: and just to note TLO should be in because the barcode is Neeb or to put it better, rank 1 is not elligible because of barcode, so players rank 2 to 17 are in in this case its both because of barcode and the fact that neeb is eligible on NA not EU why did he bother playing on EU then ? To get good practice, just because he can, to boast, to accelerate Blizzard patching... ?
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On July 06 2016 07:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 07:30 ArtyK wrote:On July 06 2016 07:30 miniskirt wrote:On July 06 2016 07:26 Shellshock wrote: and just to note TLO should be in because the barcode is Neeb or to put it better, rank 1 is not elligible because of barcode, so players rank 2 to 17 are in in this case its both because of barcode and the fact that neeb is eligible on NA not EU why did he bother playing on EU then ? To get good practice, just because he can, to boast, to accelerate Blizzard patching... ?
Practice
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On July 06 2016 07:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 07:30 ArtyK wrote:On July 06 2016 07:30 miniskirt wrote:On July 06 2016 07:26 Shellshock wrote: and just to note TLO should be in because the barcode is Neeb or to put it better, rank 1 is not elligible because of barcode, so players rank 2 to 17 are in in this case its both because of barcode and the fact that neeb is eligible on NA not EU why did he bother playing on EU then ? To get good practice, just because he can, to boast, to accelerate Blizzard patching... ?
He farmed eu because it was the best practice he could get without going to Korea. The ladder is competitive compared to NA and everyone is tryharding.
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On July 06 2016 07:51 imre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 07:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2016 07:30 ArtyK wrote:On July 06 2016 07:30 miniskirt wrote:On July 06 2016 07:26 Shellshock wrote: and just to note TLO should be in because the barcode is Neeb or to put it better, rank 1 is not elligible because of barcode, so players rank 2 to 17 are in in this case its both because of barcode and the fact that neeb is eligible on NA not EU why did he bother playing on EU then ? To get good practice, just because he can, to boast, to accelerate Blizzard patching... ? He farmed eu because it was the best practice he could get without going to Korea. The ladder is competitive compared to NA and everyone is tryharding. ok ok makes sense !
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I think the rules of the competition should be revised by Blizzard. As it is Neeb, Major, and several players using second account barcodes (not eligible accounts) manipulated the fair play of this competition. Its not against the rules but it doesn't feel right.
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On July 06 2016 07:54 Kafka777 wrote: I think the rules of the competition should be revised by Blizzard. As it is Neeb, Major, and several players using second account barcodes (not eligible accounts) manipulated the fair play of this competition. Its not against the rules but it doesn't feel right.
Wait, what?
How did they manipulate the fair play in any way?
It's a ladder competition. They are playing each other on the ladder.
If you're too young to play in WCS, should you not be allowed to ladder at all because you might hit someone who's trying to qualify for the event? ._. You can't bar people from playing The Game Itself because there's a ladder competition going on, that would be absolutely ridiculous.
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If a player competing for a spot uses a second account barcode to "hit" specific players - (a master barcode can take 20 points out) it manipulates the outcome of the competition. Its the way ladder works.
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On July 06 2016 08:37 Kafka777 wrote: If a player competing for a spot uses a second account barcode to "hit" specific players - (a master barcode can take 20 points out) it manipulates the outcome of the competition. Its the way ladder works. if your MMR is low enough to give -20, sniping is really unreliable because you're more likely to get someone in your own MMR range
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Well I know It worked very well in some cases. Selective winning and losing. I cannot prove this. But I hope someone in Blizzard will look into this.
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there's nothing unfair about choosing opponents intelligently and using the existing system to your advantage
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There is always the issue of fair play - not exploiting gaps of the system. Even if ladder rules have not been breached - fair play rules have. I've seen the evidence. Its not mine so I cannot disclose it but it is there to be found, using logic doesn't hurt either.
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Can someone confirm who all the non eligible players are for NA? So many different story's going around. I've heard cham, byrada, and true are in that list.
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On July 06 2016 09:28 JuggernautJason wrote: Can someone confirm who all the non eligible players are for NA? So many different story's going around. I've heard cham, byrada, and true are in that list. those are all right. According to other pros TRUE hasnt been around long enough and anyone who has played in copa america is ineligible. This means people like Major, Kelazhur, Cham, ByRada, etc
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Doesn't seem like a lot of movement on the NA ladder. looks like a lot of people inside the qualification zone are just idle. only TRUE moving up and PandaBearMe and JonSnow playing a little
I mean unless we are all wrong about TRUE being ineligible I don't blame them. Last one in atm is NoRegreT and he is ~60 points ahead of the next eligible person (Voltz) with just 2 hours to go
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On July 06 2016 10:53 Shellshock wrote: Doesn't seem like a lot of movement on the NA ladder. looks like a lot of people inside the qualification zone are just idle. only TRUE moving up and PandaBearMe and JonSnow playing a little
I mean unless we are all wrong about TRUE being ineligible I don't blame them. Last one in atm is NoRegreT and he is ~60 points ahead of the next eligible person (Voltz) with just 2 hours to go There isn't any reason to ladder atm. The next ring of people are all too low to make a difference, and the only way they have a chance is to miraculously get fed points OR if people towards the bottom go on a lose streak and the points differential can be overcome more easily.
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On July 06 2016 10:53 Shellshock wrote: Doesn't seem like a lot of movement on the NA ladder. looks like a lot of people inside the qualification zone are just idle. only TRUE moving up and PandaBearMe and JonSnow playing a little
I mean unless we are all wrong about TRUE being ineligible I don't blame them. Last one in atm is NoRegreT and he is ~60 points ahead of the next eligible person (Voltz) with just 2 hours to go
I think Bails and Sarovati are still going.
Going to be a tight race for 14/15/16
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Anyone know what happened to HuK?
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On July 06 2016 11:36 argonautdice wrote: Anyone know what happened to HuK? Overwatch
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On July 06 2016 11:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Overwatch Damn really? Feels bad man.
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On July 06 2016 11:04 las91 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 10:53 Shellshock wrote: Doesn't seem like a lot of movement on the NA ladder. looks like a lot of people inside the qualification zone are just idle. only TRUE moving up and PandaBearMe and JonSnow playing a little
I mean unless we are all wrong about TRUE being ineligible I don't blame them. Last one in atm is NoRegreT and he is ~60 points ahead of the next eligible person (Voltz) with just 2 hours to go I think Bails and Sarovati are still going. Going to be a tight race for 14/15/16 top 18 will make it, so sarovati is the one that matters (or cuddlebear/voltz)
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Anyone above Bails should be safe, seems like right now, it's between people on ranks 16-20 (EJK, Pokebunny, NoRegreT, ByRada, SaroVati, all except Pokebunny seems to be still playing). Considering both TRUE and Cham are ineligible, the cutoff is rank 18.
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byrada ineligible as well
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On July 06 2016 12:01 Pokebunny wrote: byrada ineligible as well Well then Sarovati is the only player below the cutoff that could realistically get in, Cuddlebear is 50 points off with 45 minutes to go.
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On July 06 2016 12:17 noego wrote:Well then Sarovati is the only player below the cutoff that could realistically get in, Cuddlebear is 50 points off with 45 minutes to go. EJK is playing and just lost, the cutoff got lower
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GOGOGO Poke, Bails, and Scarlett FIGHTING!
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On July 06 2016 12:17 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 12:17 noego wrote:On July 06 2016 12:01 Pokebunny wrote: byrada ineligible as well Well then Sarovati is the only player below the cutoff that could realistically get in, Cuddlebear is 50 points off with 45 minutes to go. EJK is playing and just lost, the cutoff got lower -19 to a 3base nydus rush, scouted mass roach mass queen no 4th and nothing clicked coz too nervous for the end of this
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1 neeb 2 hydra 3 pili 4 masa 5 semper 6 puck 7 pbm 8 violet 9 jonsnow 10 polt 11 bails 12 scarlett 13 jason 14 pokebunny 15 noregret 16 ejk
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ejk really playing with fire at the end there. I think I saw SaroVati get within 10 points of him
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On July 06 2016 13:02 Shellshock wrote: ejk really playing with fire at the end there. I think I saw SaroVati get within 10 points of him yeah. he was playing too, but he lsot a few. he was over 1300 at one point
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On July 06 2016 13:02 Shellshock wrote: ejk really playing with fire at the end there. I think I saw SaroVati get within 10 points of him made the mistake of queing up and losing 5 in a row
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Congrats to all the qualified people!!! was really exciting
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#1 winrate  fear the roaches
;nvm neeb cucked me at the last minute
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On July 06 2016 13:17 Scarlett` wrote:#1 winrate  fear the roaches Neeb 84.2% Scarlett 83.0% lies
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On July 06 2016 13:17 Pokebunny wrote:Neeb 84.2% Scarlett 83.0% lies u have to look at stats page its wrong on the ladder (like if you dc before game starts it counts on ladder page but not on stats page) ended with 83.9% tho
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On July 06 2016 13:18 Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2016 13:17 Pokebunny wrote:On July 06 2016 13:17 Scarlett` wrote:#1 winrate  fear the roaches Neeb 84.2% Scarlett 83.0% lies u have to look at stats page its wrong on the ladder (like if you dc before game starts it counts on ladder page but not on stats page) ended with 83.9% tho  get good scrub :^)
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On July 06 2016 13:17 Scarlett` wrote:#1 winrate  fear the roaches ;nvm neeb cucked me at the last minute First EU, now he's cucking NA players. This man cannot be stopped.
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Good for Neeb!
Also so stoked that TLO made it!
Who is Shadown?
And mostly, woooot SCAAAAARRRLEETTT!!! Nice work!
(You too Poke)
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This is insane. Nebb #1 on both NA/EU ladders concurrently AND with the highest win rate on both.
I wonder if this has been achieved before in SC2 history.
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On July 06 2016 17:17 aLt)nirvana wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yrgXplj.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wdviCp1.jpg) This is insane. Nebb #1 on both NA/EU ladders concurrently AND with the highest win rate on both. I wonder if this has been achieved before in SC2 history. ForGG.
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^ and also Naniwa
Meatyowllegs anyone?
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