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Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
March 04 2016 21:08 GMT
#1541
On March 05 2016 06:06 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 06:04 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:00 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:58 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:53 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:52 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:51 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:51 Schelim wrote:
does Corrosive Bile deal friendly fire?

Yes it does.

kthx. i've literally only played campaign in LotV (and it kinda sucked)

So did I pretty much. I think the campaign was pretty okay though. Maybe not so much story-wise (but that goes for much of SC2, really), but I enjoyed the missions.

story was the worst ever (debatable HotS) and i was really disappointed in the mission design, at first it felt really cool but after a while i realised that they had made one mission (destroy/rescue X amount of some weird thing that is protected by enemy forces) and copy pasted it 10 times...

To be fair, RTS single player mission design is a bit limited. It was still kinda fun to play even though they just literally copied WoL missions and turned your stuff into Protoss.

WoL had the most boring missions imo. Wasn't it just a bunch of variants of "destroy all enemies" over and over (with a few survive X minutes missions thrown in)? Also the non-customizable upgrades. At least HotS and LotV had Kerrigan / Spear of Adun and options you could change on the fly to suit the mission.

In WoL, it was "Destroy all enemies", "Defend X objective" or "Gather X resource" over and over and over.

Yeah, I played all the missions three times (normal/hard/brutal), I was really tired of them at the end. I enjoyed most of HotS all three times. Only played LotV on normal so far, so I guess I can't quite compare. Still feels better than WoL though.
I am here in the shadows.
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2392 Posts
March 04 2016 21:08 GMT
#1542
On March 05 2016 06:05 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 06:04 Scarlett` wrote:
elazer using my build :O

in which way is it advantegous to a normal speed opening?

its safe vs unscouted 13/12
Progamer
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 04 2016 21:08 GMT
#1543
On March 05 2016 06:07 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 06:05 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:04 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:02 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:00 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:58 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:53 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:52 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:51 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:51 Schelim wrote:
does Corrosive Bile deal friendly fire?

Yes it does.

kthx. i've literally only played campaign in LotV (and it kinda sucked)

So did I pretty much. I think the campaign was pretty okay though. Maybe not so much story-wise (but that goes for much of SC2, really), but I enjoyed the missions.

story was the worst ever (debatable HotS) and i was really disappointed in the mission design, at first it felt really cool but after a while i realised that they had made one mission (destroy/rescue X amount of some weird thing that is protected by enemy forces) and copy pasted it 10 times...

To be fair, RTS single player mission design is a bit limited. It was still kinda fun to play even though they just literally copied WoL missions and turned your stuff into Protoss.

Alarak tried hard to save it tho.

Alarak was fucking awesome. gotta love a witty Protoss Vader.

i kinda felt like the missions were a lot more make a big army and a-move that shit than in the previous campaigns. but maybe that's just cause it was Protoss.

Honestly the final missions of the regular campaign are pretty much flat rip-offs of WoL missions. The final mission even has you do the exact same thing.

i don't remember the final mission. i guess that says it all.

+ Show Spoiler +
You defend the Xel'naga relic from the onslaught of Zerg forces until it's at 100%. In WoL every now and then you got harder waves with Kerrigan (and nydus worms or air units depending on a mission choice), in LotV you get harder waves with Protoss and hybrids.

oh yeah. yeah i still remember the WoL one but didn't remember the LotV one. that is kinda silly but i guess they did that to make it end the same way it started...?
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 04 2016 21:08 GMT
#1544
On March 05 2016 06:08 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 06:05 Ej_ wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:04 Scarlett` wrote:
elazer using my build :O

in which way is it advantegous to a normal speed opening?

its safe vs unscouted 13/12

holy shit teach me
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
March 04 2016 21:08 GMT
#1545
On March 05 2016 06:07 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 06:05 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:04 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:02 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:00 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:58 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:53 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:52 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:51 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:51 Schelim wrote:
does Corrosive Bile deal friendly fire?

Yes it does.

kthx. i've literally only played campaign in LotV (and it kinda sucked)

So did I pretty much. I think the campaign was pretty okay though. Maybe not so much story-wise (but that goes for much of SC2, really), but I enjoyed the missions.

story was the worst ever (debatable HotS) and i was really disappointed in the mission design, at first it felt really cool but after a while i realised that they had made one mission (destroy/rescue X amount of some weird thing that is protected by enemy forces) and copy pasted it 10 times...

To be fair, RTS single player mission design is a bit limited. It was still kinda fun to play even though they just literally copied WoL missions and turned your stuff into Protoss.

Alarak tried hard to save it tho.

Alarak was fucking awesome. gotta love a witty Protoss Vader.

i kinda felt like the missions were a lot more make a big army and a-move that shit than in the previous campaigns. but maybe that's just cause it was Protoss.

Honestly the final missions of the regular campaign are pretty much flat rip-offs of WoL missions. The final mission even has you do the exact same thing.

i don't remember the final mission. i guess that says it all.

+ Show Spoiler +
You defend the Xel'naga relic from the onslaught of Zerg forces until it's at 100%. In WoL every now and then you got harder waves with Kerrigan (and nydus worms or air units depending on a mission choice), in LotV you get harder waves with Protoss and hybrids.

No, that was the 2nd to last mission. the last was the really stupid mission with the void shards and angelic Kerrrigan
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
March 04 2016 21:09 GMT
#1546
On March 05 2016 06:08 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 06:05 Ej_ wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:04 Scarlett` wrote:
elazer using my build :O

in which way is it advantegous to a normal speed opening?

its safe vs unscouted 13/12

whaaaaat how does that even work??? It looks like you just DIE
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 04 2016 21:09 GMT
#1547
On March 05 2016 06:08 Kerence wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 06:06 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:04 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:00 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:58 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:53 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:52 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:51 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:51 Schelim wrote:
does Corrosive Bile deal friendly fire?

Yes it does.

kthx. i've literally only played campaign in LotV (and it kinda sucked)

So did I pretty much. I think the campaign was pretty okay though. Maybe not so much story-wise (but that goes for much of SC2, really), but I enjoyed the missions.

story was the worst ever (debatable HotS) and i was really disappointed in the mission design, at first it felt really cool but after a while i realised that they had made one mission (destroy/rescue X amount of some weird thing that is protected by enemy forces) and copy pasted it 10 times...

To be fair, RTS single player mission design is a bit limited. It was still kinda fun to play even though they just literally copied WoL missions and turned your stuff into Protoss.

WoL had the most boring missions imo. Wasn't it just a bunch of variants of "destroy all enemies" over and over (with a few survive X minutes missions thrown in)? Also the non-customizable upgrades. At least HotS and LotV had Kerrigan / Spear of Adun and options you could change on the fly to suit the mission.

In WoL, it was "Destroy all enemies", "Defend X objective" or "Gather X resource" over and over and over.

Yeah, I played all the missions three times (normal/hard/brutal), I was really tired of them at the end. I enjoyed most of HotS all three times. Only played LotV on normal so far, so I guess I can't quite compare. Still feels better than WoL though.

meh, WoL had the least cringeworthy story at least (out of the sc2 campaigns)
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
March 04 2016 21:09 GMT
#1548
On March 05 2016 06:07 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 06:06 stardog wrote:
Nerchio might not have an opportunity to fight very top Koreans but beating Polt, Hydra (or a guy who beat Hydra in ZvZ) AND winning a sigbet would be a major win in my book.

I don't think he wants to take the sigbet

Well admittedly his sig is exposed a bit more than yours But that would be so balsy
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9419 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 21:10:00
March 04 2016 21:09 GMT
#1549
Elazer no spore wtf?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 04 2016 21:10 GMT
#1550
On March 05 2016 06:08 Kerence wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 06:06 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:04 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:00 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:58 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:53 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:52 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:51 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:51 Schelim wrote:
does Corrosive Bile deal friendly fire?

Yes it does.

kthx. i've literally only played campaign in LotV (and it kinda sucked)

So did I pretty much. I think the campaign was pretty okay though. Maybe not so much story-wise (but that goes for much of SC2, really), but I enjoyed the missions.

story was the worst ever (debatable HotS) and i was really disappointed in the mission design, at first it felt really cool but after a while i realised that they had made one mission (destroy/rescue X amount of some weird thing that is protected by enemy forces) and copy pasted it 10 times...

To be fair, RTS single player mission design is a bit limited. It was still kinda fun to play even though they just literally copied WoL missions and turned your stuff into Protoss.

WoL had the most boring missions imo. Wasn't it just a bunch of variants of "destroy all enemies" over and over (with a few survive X minutes missions thrown in)? Also the non-customizable upgrades. At least HotS and LotV had Kerrigan / Spear of Adun and options you could change on the fly to suit the mission.

In WoL, it was "Destroy all enemies", "Defend X objective" or "Gather X resource" over and over and over.

Yeah, I played all the missions three times (normal/hard/brutal), I was really tired of them at the end. I enjoyed most of HotS all three times. Only played LotV on normal so far, so I guess I can't quite compare. Still feels better than WoL though.

Did you go for the 100% achievements? Some of them were pretty hard/interesting
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
March 04 2016 21:10 GMT
#1551
I think elazer weathered the storm and will win
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 04 2016 21:11 GMT
#1552
On March 05 2016 06:08 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 06:07 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:05 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:04 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:02 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:00 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:58 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:53 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:52 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:51 Kerence wrote:
[quote]
Yes it does.

kthx. i've literally only played campaign in LotV (and it kinda sucked)

So did I pretty much. I think the campaign was pretty okay though. Maybe not so much story-wise (but that goes for much of SC2, really), but I enjoyed the missions.

story was the worst ever (debatable HotS) and i was really disappointed in the mission design, at first it felt really cool but after a while i realised that they had made one mission (destroy/rescue X amount of some weird thing that is protected by enemy forces) and copy pasted it 10 times...

To be fair, RTS single player mission design is a bit limited. It was still kinda fun to play even though they just literally copied WoL missions and turned your stuff into Protoss.

Alarak tried hard to save it tho.

Alarak was fucking awesome. gotta love a witty Protoss Vader.

i kinda felt like the missions were a lot more make a big army and a-move that shit than in the previous campaigns. but maybe that's just cause it was Protoss.

Honestly the final missions of the regular campaign are pretty much flat rip-offs of WoL missions. The final mission even has you do the exact same thing.

i don't remember the final mission. i guess that says it all.

+ Show Spoiler +
You defend the Xel'naga relic from the onslaught of Zerg forces until it's at 100%. In WoL every now and then you got harder waves with Kerrigan (and nydus worms or air units depending on a mission choice), in LotV you get harder waves with Protoss and hybrids.

No, that was the 2nd to last mission. the last was the really stupid mission with the void shards and angelic Kerrrigan

No that one is in the Epilogue. I meant the regular Protoss campaign.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
March 04 2016 21:11 GMT
#1553
I guess have the world's sickest timings doesn't help much after max supply is reached.
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2392 Posts
March 04 2016 21:11 GMT
#1554
On March 05 2016 06:08 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 06:08 Scarlett` wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:05 Ej_ wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:04 Scarlett` wrote:
elazer using my build :O

in which way is it advantegous to a normal speed opening?

its safe vs unscouted 13/12

holy shit teach me

17h 17pool
if close air make gas (can cancel if u see 13/12 with overlord)
if not close air go gasless > 4 drones to nat and spine/2 lings as soon as hatch doen
can cancel spine if u see close pos overlord in middle
cross > 2 evo lings into muta
close > roaches
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
March 04 2016 21:12 GMT
#1555
Now we're talking! Great map!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9419 Posts
March 04 2016 21:12 GMT
#1556
ZvZ mid/late game is a really solid matchup.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 04 2016 21:12 GMT
#1557
Oh this ZvZ isnt bad.
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Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
March 04 2016 21:12 GMT
#1558
On March 05 2016 06:09 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 06:08 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:06 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:04 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:00 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:58 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:53 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:52 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:51 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:51 Schelim wrote:
does Corrosive Bile deal friendly fire?

Yes it does.

kthx. i've literally only played campaign in LotV (and it kinda sucked)

So did I pretty much. I think the campaign was pretty okay though. Maybe not so much story-wise (but that goes for much of SC2, really), but I enjoyed the missions.

story was the worst ever (debatable HotS) and i was really disappointed in the mission design, at first it felt really cool but after a while i realised that they had made one mission (destroy/rescue X amount of some weird thing that is protected by enemy forces) and copy pasted it 10 times...

To be fair, RTS single player mission design is a bit limited. It was still kinda fun to play even though they just literally copied WoL missions and turned your stuff into Protoss.

WoL had the most boring missions imo. Wasn't it just a bunch of variants of "destroy all enemies" over and over (with a few survive X minutes missions thrown in)? Also the non-customizable upgrades. At least HotS and LotV had Kerrigan / Spear of Adun and options you could change on the fly to suit the mission.

In WoL, it was "Destroy all enemies", "Defend X objective" or "Gather X resource" over and over and over.

Yeah, I played all the missions three times (normal/hard/brutal), I was really tired of them at the end. I enjoyed most of HotS all three times. Only played LotV on normal so far, so I guess I can't quite compare. Still feels better than WoL though.

meh, WoL had the least cringeworthy story at least (out of the sc2 campaigns)

Eh, they put that Jim / Kerrigan love-story in there like it was some sort of Hollowood movie. Also, "Narud", Really?
Though as I said, the entire SC2-story is pretty "meh".
I am here in the shadows.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
March 04 2016 21:12 GMT
#1559
On March 05 2016 06:11 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 06:08 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:07 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:05 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:04 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:02 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 06:00 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:58 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:53 Kerence wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:52 Schelim wrote:
[quote]
kthx. i've literally only played campaign in LotV (and it kinda sucked)

So did I pretty much. I think the campaign was pretty okay though. Maybe not so much story-wise (but that goes for much of SC2, really), but I enjoyed the missions.

story was the worst ever (debatable HotS) and i was really disappointed in the mission design, at first it felt really cool but after a while i realised that they had made one mission (destroy/rescue X amount of some weird thing that is protected by enemy forces) and copy pasted it 10 times...

To be fair, RTS single player mission design is a bit limited. It was still kinda fun to play even though they just literally copied WoL missions and turned your stuff into Protoss.

Alarak tried hard to save it tho.

Alarak was fucking awesome. gotta love a witty Protoss Vader.

i kinda felt like the missions were a lot more make a big army and a-move that shit than in the previous campaigns. but maybe that's just cause it was Protoss.

Honestly the final missions of the regular campaign are pretty much flat rip-offs of WoL missions. The final mission even has you do the exact same thing.

i don't remember the final mission. i guess that says it all.

+ Show Spoiler +
You defend the Xel'naga relic from the onslaught of Zerg forces until it's at 100%. In WoL every now and then you got harder waves with Kerrigan (and nydus worms or air units depending on a mission choice), in LotV you get harder waves with Protoss and hybrids.

No, that was the 2nd to last mission. the last was the really stupid mission with the void shards and angelic Kerrrigan

No that one is in the Epilogue. I meant the regular Protoss campaign.

oh yeah. Carbon copy of All In.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 04 2016 21:12 GMT
#1560
so many banelings?
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