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On March 03 2016 00:11 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 00:07 Soularion wrote:On March 03 2016 00:05 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 00:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:On March 03 2016 00:03 ArtyK wrote:On March 03 2016 00:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On March 03 2016 00:01 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 00:00 Soularion wrote:On March 02 2016 23:57 Schelim wrote:On March 02 2016 23:55 Soularion wrote:
by the way
I'm predicting 2/3 koreigners drop out before the Ro8~ there's only 3 Koreans in the whole tournament... As in 2 out of 3, yus. lol, i totally read foreigners. fair enough. i guess looking at the bracket it does seem possible only Hydra makes it to RO8 you favor Dayshi over Polt ? I think Polt has a better chance of going ro8 than hydra yeah me too i haven't been paying attention to the sc2 scene too much lately but i was under the impression Hydra was an actual Korean Korean and Polt has only been playing part-time and it's been showing? also, if Hydra beats Happy, he's up against an American so he's basically ro8 at that point. Do note, both Neeb and Kelazhur have taken sets (Neeb in a much more important place, albeit) off Hydra in the past month or so. I actually predict an upset over Hydra, and viOLet's.. odd, while Polt should be able to make the Ro8 albeit I'll predict in sloppy fashion. i'll take you guys' words for it, interested to hear Polt is fulltime again btw, did he not like his studies? i have no clue who Neeb and Kelthuzad are, but i saw their nationalities and automatically wrote them off tbh. good for NA scene if they're good. i know Happy's been killing, but he always does that online and then goes full potato offline. trust someone that's been following him since war3 on that one.
Neeb is really really good. And Kelazhur is no joke either when he's on form.
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On March 03 2016 00:08 RaFox17 wrote:
Does any Z ground army beat that composition?
Pure ground? Not sure, you need some infestors and have a big bank for a huge ling remax.
But PiG needed to sprinkle his hydra/lurker army with 6~8 brood lords.
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On March 03 2016 00:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 00:10 Musicus wrote:On March 03 2016 00:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:On March 03 2016 00:08 Musicus wrote:Kinda funny how Protoss were complaining how Lurkers are unbeatable on the ground at the start of LotV  . To be fair I thought the same. Going immortals vs lurkers seemed kinda counter intuitive  Completely agree! It just shows that everybody should just calm down and give the game half a year of competitive play to get figured out. definitely !!! The game feels amazing both to play and watch atm, just let people tamper with it.
Still not sure if it is good that immortals wreck everything Z on the ground :/ Feels like shit design.
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On March 03 2016 00:12 RaFox17 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 00:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:On March 03 2016 00:10 Musicus wrote:On March 03 2016 00:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:On March 03 2016 00:08 Musicus wrote:Kinda funny how Protoss were complaining how Lurkers are unbeatable on the ground at the start of LotV . To be fair I thought the same. Going immortals vs lurkers seemed kinda counter intuitive Completely agree! It just shows that everybody should just calm down and give the game half a year of competitive play to get figured out. definitely !!! The game feels amazing both to play and watch atm, just let people tamper with it. Still not sure if it is good that immortals wreck everything Z on the ground :/ Feels like shit design.
if the Z does stuff it's way harder for the P to go for 16 immortals. Like the 1st aggression from PiG was that drop ling at min 10 or something...
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On March 03 2016 00:12 RaFox17 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 00:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:On March 03 2016 00:10 Musicus wrote:On March 03 2016 00:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:On March 03 2016 00:08 Musicus wrote:Kinda funny how Protoss were complaining how Lurkers are unbeatable on the ground at the start of LotV . To be fair I thought the same. Going immortals vs lurkers seemed kinda counter intuitive Completely agree! It just shows that everybody should just calm down and give the game half a year of competitive play to get figured out. definitely !!! The game feels amazing both to play and watch atm, just let people tamper with it. Still not sure if it is good that immortals wreck everything Z on the ground :/ Feels like shit design.
IF PiG wasnt so far behind a ton of cracklings + runbys actually do wonders, you just have to look at Serral's ZvP
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On March 03 2016 00:12 fezvez wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 00:08 RaFox17 wrote:
Does any Z ground army beat that composition? Pure ground? Not sure, you need some infestors and have a big bank for a huge ling remax. But PiG needed to sprinkle his hydra/lurker army with 6~8 brood lords.
yeah infestors not on move command are key, and if you can get some brood lords you're in a solid spot, especially with the insane cracklings. The key is getting the hive tech and it can be pretty hard if the P is good at harassing.
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On March 03 2016 00:12 RaFox17 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 00:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:On March 03 2016 00:10 Musicus wrote:On March 03 2016 00:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:On March 03 2016 00:08 Musicus wrote:Kinda funny how Protoss were complaining how Lurkers are unbeatable on the ground at the start of LotV . To be fair I thought the same. Going immortals vs lurkers seemed kinda counter intuitive Completely agree! It just shows that everybody should just calm down and give the game half a year of competitive play to get figured out. definitely !!! The game feels amazing both to play and watch atm, just let people tamper with it. Still not sure if it is good that immortals wreck everything Z on the ground :/ Feels like shit design.
Immortals destroy pretty much every ground unit of every race, so at least they're consistent.
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On March 03 2016 00:12 fezvez wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 00:08 RaFox17 wrote:
Does any Z ground army beat that composition? Pure ground? Not sure, you need some infestors and have a big bank for a huge ling remax. But PiG needed to sprinkle his hydra/lurker army with 6~8 brood lords.
just casually sprinkle a tech tier and like 2000 gas in there lol
seriously though, infestors are quite good against immortal adept chargelot imo, i expect to see more of them if protoss keeps playing this way
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On March 03 2016 00:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 00:09 sAsImre wrote:On March 03 2016 00:08 opisska wrote:
They have reverted Immortals back to WoL beta on warpgate? I can't understand how someone made 16 Immortals in an actual robo?! 2 robo producing almost non stop. Immortals are good against every ground Z unit now. yeah everyone goes double robo nowadays. It's pretty good.
Interesting. I have somehow managed to almost completely skip PvZ of all matchups lately, so I haven't seem much. Last time I saw someone going immortal-archon against lurkers, it did not go very well though ... probably it just got figured out better.
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On March 03 2016 00:12 RaFox17 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 00:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:On March 03 2016 00:10 Musicus wrote:On March 03 2016 00:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:On March 03 2016 00:08 Musicus wrote:Kinda funny how Protoss were complaining how Lurkers are unbeatable on the ground at the start of LotV . To be fair I thought the same. Going immortals vs lurkers seemed kinda counter intuitive Completely agree! It just shows that everybody should just calm down and give the game half a year of competitive play to get figured out. definitely !!! The game feels amazing both to play and watch atm, just let people tamper with it. Still not sure if it is good that immortals wreck everything Z on the ground :/ Feels like shit design.
The thing is - if zerg doesn't do anything aggressive early on - you need immortals. Chargelots alone or blink stalkers alone can't do anything, you need some tech units. Either immortals or distruptors, which aren't so reliable so the answer why we see double robo immortal is pretty obvious.
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On March 03 2016 00:15 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 00:12 RaFox17 wrote:On March 03 2016 00:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:On March 03 2016 00:10 Musicus wrote:On March 03 2016 00:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:On March 03 2016 00:08 Musicus wrote:Kinda funny how Protoss were complaining how Lurkers are unbeatable on the ground at the start of LotV . To be fair I thought the same. Going immortals vs lurkers seemed kinda counter intuitive Completely agree! It just shows that everybody should just calm down and give the game half a year of competitive play to get figured out. definitely !!! The game feels amazing both to play and watch atm, just let people tamper with it. Still not sure if it is good that immortals wreck everything Z on the ground :/ Feels like shit design. Immortals destroy pretty much every ground unit of every race, so at least they're consistent.
I can appreciate that
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Wow the banelings worked after all
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On March 03 2016 00:15 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 00:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:On March 03 2016 00:09 sAsImre wrote:On March 03 2016 00:08 opisska wrote:
They have reverted Immortals back to WoL beta on warpgate? I can't understand how someone made 16 Immortals in an actual robo?! 2 robo producing almost non stop. Immortals are good against every ground Z unit now. yeah everyone goes double robo nowadays. It's pretty good. Interesting. I have somehow managed to almost completely skip PvZ of all matchups lately, so I haven't seem much. Last time I saw someone going immortal-archon against lurkers, it did not go very well though ... probably it just got figured out better.
For having played the P side a lot on the ladder, I can tell you immortal chargelot archon usually gets vaporized when done out of 1 robo but can absolutely dominate when done out of 2. The double robo idea is actually pretty new (maybe 1,5 month ?).
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That was some top 3 control
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Banelings in PvZ, what did the world come to.
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On March 03 2016 00:17 opisska wrote:
Banelings in PvZ, what did the world come to.
the lotv trailer
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sucks that a few good players are gonna get knocked out with nothing and one of these 2 will advance 
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On March 03 2016 00:18 Shellshock wrote:
HUK!!!! Fantastic play!
I can't really tell if HuK is playing that good or if PiG is helping him a bit too much.
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EPT
