(Vote): Leenock vs Innovation (Vote): Stats vs Myungsik (Vote): TY vs soO (Vote): Zest vs Dark
Use this one i need a break one day in my life, reason i didn't post it 24 hours before! Secondly, if you want to make LRs please do, if u need help pm, pm me on discord chat or even add my skype. I need help as you see it is normally just me who does Korean LRs which i do not mind doing but i could do with a bit of a break sometimes
(Vote): Leenock vs Innovation (Vote): Stats vs Myungsik (Vote): TY vs soO (Vote): Zest vs Dark
Use this one i need a break one day in my life, reason i didn't post it 24 hours before! Secondly, if you want to make LRs please do, if u need help pm, pm me on discord chat or even add my skype. I need help as you see it is normally just me who does Korean LRs which i do not mind doing but i could do with a bit of a break sometimes
(Vote): Leenock vs Innovation (Vote): Stats vs Myungsik (Vote): TY vs soO (Vote): Zest vs Dark
Use this one i need a break one day in my life, reason i didn't post it 24 hours before! Secondly, if you want to make LRs please do, if u need help pm, pm me on discord chat or even add my skype. I need help as you see it is normally just me who does Korean LRs which i do not mind doing but i could do with a bit of a break sometimes
On February 16 2016 17:39 FFW_Rude wrote: I just copy pasted the LR from yesterday and changed the icon with the LR ressource thread. What banner did i missed ?
Sorry. First time doing this
The banners are all pre set for the match ups, when a team is playing their badge in the banner is gold and the rest are greyed out. You had the banner with CJ vs MVP in gold and not the KTs But no worries easy change, but in the LR resource thread all the OPs done for you, you just need to copy and paste them so it is even less work.
On February 16 2016 17:39 FFW_Rude wrote: I just copy pasted the LR from yesterday and changed the icon with the LR ressource thread. What banner did i missed ?
Sorry. First time doing this
The banners are all pre set for the match ups, when a team is playing their badge in the banner is gold and the rest are greyed out. You had the banner with CJ vs MVP in gold and not the KTs But no worries easy change, but in the LR resource thread all the OPs done for you, you just need to copy and paste them so it is even less work.
That reminds me, can someone photoshop a little chicken next to the MVP Chickenmaru badge in those banners?
On February 16 2016 17:39 FFW_Rude wrote: I just copy pasted the LR from yesterday and changed the icon with the LR ressource thread. What banner did i missed ?
Sorry. First time doing this
The banners are all pre set for the match ups, when a team is playing their badge in the banner is gold and the rest are greyed out. You had the banner with CJ vs MVP in gold and not the KTs But no worries easy change, but in the LR resource thread all the OPs done for you, you just need to copy and paste them so it is even less work.
That reminds me, can someone photoshop a little chicken next to the MVP Chickenmaru badge in those banners?
Haha i can ask Sneirac see if he has spare time
On February 16 2016 17:48 Phredxor wrote: FFW_Rude. The hero Pande needs.
(Vote): Leenock vs Innovation (Vote): Stats vs Myungsik (Vote): TY vs soO (Vote): Zest vs Dark
Use this one i need a break one day in my life, reason i didn't post it 24 hours before! Secondly, if you want to make LRs please do, if u need help pm, pm me on discord chat or even add my skype. I need help as you see it is normally just me who does Korean LRs which i do not mind doing but i could do with a bit of a break sometimes
I'll be in holidays soon, I might be able to do some
On February 16 2016 18:07 opisska wrote: Oh, the first map is Ulrena. Is Innovation now the guy they are gonna send to do something weird? Did he really fall that low?
On February 16 2016 18:07 opisska wrote: Oh, the first map is Ulrena. Is Innovation now the guy they are gonna send to do something weird? Did he really fall that low?
3cc into rax
And then float it all to the right half and hope leenock doesn't know the map extends that far?
On February 16 2016 18:07 opisska wrote: Oh, the first map is Ulrena. Is Innovation now the guy they are gonna send to do something weird? Did he really fall that low?
3cc into rax
And then float it all to the right half and hope leenock doesn't know the map extends that far?
Then he builds a lone hydralisk and he can't reach the floating building into draw ?
Korean zergs seem to still favor muta ling bane when they being "safe" which is not the right play in this expansion as many people have said. Strange from Leenock
On February 16 2016 18:17 Pandemona wrote: Korean zergs seem to still favor muta ling bane when they being "safe" which is not the right play in this expansion as many people have said. Strange from Leenock
Isnt it because of this map? We saw what happened to roach ravagers in TY vs Solar
On February 16 2016 18:17 Pandemona wrote: Korean zergs seem to still favor muta ling bane when they being "safe" which is not the right play in this expansion as many people have said. Strange from Leenock
Isnt it because of this map? We saw what happened to roach ravagers in TY vs Solar
Whilst that is maybe true, opening roach ravager always gives u the ability to stop said push or even pressure yourself. Opening pure greed to muta with only lings (with lava spare) being your back up is not stopping any sort of push really.
On February 16 2016 18:17 Pandemona wrote: Korean zergs seem to still favor muta ling bane when they being "safe" which is not the right play in this expansion as many people have said. Strange from Leenock
It's doable on maps that have a rush distance longer than stepes of war. Also unwise on dusk towers since you need to 2 hatch muta to not die to liberators.
On February 16 2016 18:17 Pandemona wrote: Korean zergs seem to still favor muta ling bane when they being "safe" which is not the right play in this expansion as many people have said. Strange from Leenock
It's doable on maps that have a rush distance longer than stepes of war. Also unwise on dusk towers since you need to 2 hatch muta to not die to liberators.
Yeah was about to edit my reply with well especially on a map which doesn't allow you a chance to scout a push before its on your front door haha
On February 16 2016 18:17 Pandemona wrote: Korean zergs seem to still favor muta ling bane when they being "safe" which is not the right play in this expansion as many people have said. Strange from Leenock
Korean terrans probably tear you apart if you try to go roach ravager.
On February 16 2016 18:21 Aeromi wrote: What's the difference between Trust and Willpower?
Trust is how much the coach trusts the player. I assume willpower is how easy the player tilts etc.
You sure? Because if you are this is going to be told during the French broadcast tonight :D
Well, Tasteless said that "trust" is how much the coach trusts the player. Willpower I don't think has ever been explained, but the only thing that makes sense to me is that it measures their mentality.
Wait wtf how is Myungsik ahead in workers and supply. I thought Stats was red due to opening faster expansion and faster 3rd and took 0 damage from 4 adept pressure.
For people wondering Archon/Storm along with Blink Stalkers and maybe even a few Zealots is the counterbuild to VRs before the VR count grows too large. Usually you do a timing with like 2-3 Archons and 6-gate Blink in the mid-game though. This time Stats came to Myungsik
On February 16 2016 18:31 Durnuu wrote: Myungsik stop storming your zealots hahahaha
Zealots can live through two storms and cost only minerals. Already in BW you would storm you zealots on purpose in PvZ, if you got enough hydras in the process.
On February 16 2016 18:32 Heartland wrote: For people wondering Archon/Storm along with Blink Stalkers and maybe even a few Zealots is the counterbuild to VRs before the VR count grows too large. Usually you do a timing with like 2-3 Archons and 6-gate Blink in the mid-game though. This time Stats came to Myungsik
Oh ok thanks.
On February 16 2016 18:33 Heartland wrote: Stats is far from out of it though
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
Yeah it is. Perhaps not as punishing, but it's the same thing
I always get heart attacks when I play it. But I think it's very different from how you usually play sc2. You have to pay attention to your army so incredibly much so your macro slips a lot.
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
Yeah it is. Except more punishing
More punishing that "i blink my eyes i'm dead with no chance to ever recover" ?
I like how BW oldschool player are really serious on photoshoots. They are so used to it lol
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
lingbanemuta vs bio in TvT never got boring
I was bored by TvZ in HotS and I am already bored by tennis in PvP.
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
why? Good designed unit interactions never get boring or do you think marine/tank vs marine/tank is boring?
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
lingbanemuta vs bio in TvT never got boring
I was bored by TvZ in HotS and I am already bored by tennis in PvP.
I like how you didn't note on the LBM vs bio in TvT :D
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
Ling Bane is Justice fuck you
lol i lost a match one time 'cause i fucking sneazed lol
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
lingbanemuta vs bio in TvT never got boring
I was bored by TvZ in HotS and I am already bored by tennis in PvP.
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
Yeah it is. Except more punishing
More punishing that "i blink my eyes i'm dead with no chance to ever recover" ?
One of the things with disruptor wars is that you can have real comebacks because you usually have two disruptors producing all the time, so after a fight you can stall/hurt the enemy army if they're advancing. And a bigger army can lose to a smaller, but better controlled one
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
why? Good designed unit interactions never get boring or do you think marine/tank vs marine/tank is boring?
yes but that's cause it has terran in it, otherwise I agree with your point
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
lingbanemuta vs bio in TvT never got boring
I was bored by TvZ in HotS and I am already bored by tennis in PvP.
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
Yeah it is. Except more punishing
More punishing that "i blink my eyes i'm dead with no chance to ever recover" ?
One of the things with disruptor wars is that you can have real comebacks because you usually have two disruptors producing all the time, so after a fight you can stall/hurt the enemy army if they're advancing. And a bigger army can lose to a smaller, but better controlled one
Sounds like something there will be whine about to me
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
Yeah it is. Except more punishing
More punishing that "i blink my eyes i'm dead with no chance to ever recover" ?
One of the things with disruptor wars is that you can have real comebacks because you usually have two disruptors producing all the time, so after a fight you can stall/hurt the enemy army if they're advancing. And a bigger army can lose to a smaller, but better controlled one
Sounds like something there will be whine about to me
On February 16 2016 18:46 Diabolique wrote: How did Myungsik play? I came right noe from the dentist ... why did he lose? :-(
First he crushed a weird void-stalker attack with storms and zealots, then after a while he lost most of his army running around stat's bases while getting harrased to death and eventually just lost the ensuing blink-disruptor games because he has no patience (probably also no patients, as he is not a doctor).
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
Yeah it is. Except more punishing
More punishing that "i blink my eyes i'm dead with no chance to ever recover" ?
One of the things with disruptor wars is that you can have real comebacks because you usually have two disruptors producing all the time, so after a fight you can stall/hurt the enemy army if they're advancing. And a bigger army can lose to a smaller, but better controlled one
Sounds like something there will be whine about to me
On February 16 2016 18:46 Diabolique wrote: How did Myungsik play? I came right noe from the dentist ... why did he lose? :-(
First he crushed a weird void-stalker attack with storms and zealots, then after a while he lost most of his army running around stat's bases while getting harrased to death and eventually just lost the ensuing blink-disruptor games because he has no patience (probably also no patients, as he is not a doctor).
On February 16 2016 18:46 Diabolique wrote: How did Myungsik play? I came right noe from the dentist ... why did he lose? :-(
First he crushed a weird void-stalker attack with storms and zealots, then after a while he lost most of his army running around stat's bases while getting harrased to death and eventually just lost the ensuing blink-disruptor games because he has no patience (probably also no patients, as he is not a doctor).
Thanks ... sad, I was betting on his LOTV skills :-(
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
Ling Bane is Justice fuck you
lol i lost a match one time 'cause i fucking sneazed lol
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
lingbanemuta vs bio in TvT never got boring
I was bored by TvZ in HotS and I am already bored by tennis in PvP.
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
lingbanemuta vs bio in TvT never got boring
I was bored by TvZ in HotS and I am already bored by tennis in PvP.
I like how you didn't note on the LBM vs bio in TvT :D
Well I was expecting it was just a typo so I ignored that as my inner grammar nazi is asleep
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
Ling Bane is Justice fuck you
lol i lost a match one time 'cause i fucking sneazed lol
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
lingbanemuta vs bio in TvT never got boring
I was bored by TvZ in HotS and I am already bored by tennis in PvP.
What's not boring for you then ?
Variability. I like to be surprised by the game, to enjoy something new. When I know what will happen all the time, it's boring. And now I am not playing the game because it's so frustrating to play that I cannot appreciate stale meta in PvX games, because I don't play therefore I cannot take anything from the games
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
Yeah it is. Except more punishing
More punishing that "i blink my eyes i'm dead with no chance to ever recover" ?
One of the things with disruptor wars is that you can have real comebacks because you usually have two disruptors producing all the time, so after a fight you can stall/hurt the enemy army if they're advancing. And a bigger army can lose to a smaller, but better controlled one
Sounds like something there will be whine about to me
why?
I Had more bases but didn't win waaaaaaaah Turtling I don't know how to build tempest waaaah etc I have masters zergs tell me how ling bane is 100% luck people whine about everything
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
lingbanemuta vs bio in TvT never got boring
I was bored by TvZ in HotS and I am already bored by tennis in PvP.
I like how you didn't note on the LBM vs bio in TvT :D
Well I was expecting it was just a typo so I ignored that as my inner grammar nazi is asleep
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
Ling Bane is Justice fuck you
lol i lost a match one time 'cause i fucking sneazed lol
On February 16 2016 18:47 deacon.frost wrote:
On February 16 2016 18:45 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
lingbanemuta vs bio in TvT never got boring
I was bored by TvZ in HotS and I am already bored by tennis in PvP.
What's not boring for you then ?
Variability. I like to be surprised by the game, to enjoy something new. When I know what will happen all the time, it's boring. And now I am not playing the game because it's so frustrating to play that I cannot appreciate stale meta in PvX games, because I don't play therefore I cannot take anything from the games
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
Yeah it is. Except more punishing
More punishing that "i blink my eyes i'm dead with no chance to ever recover" ?
One of the things with disruptor wars is that you can have real comebacks because you usually have two disruptors producing all the time, so after a fight you can stall/hurt the enemy army if they're advancing. And a bigger army can lose to a smaller, but better controlled one
Sounds like something there will be whine about to me
why?
I Had more bases but didn't win waaaaaaaah Turtling I don't know how to build tempest waaaah etc I have masters zergs tell me how ling bane is 100% luck people whine about everything
Did someone really told you lingbane wars are luck based ???? O_o
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
Yeah it is. Except more punishing
More punishing that "i blink my eyes i'm dead with no chance to ever recover" ?
One of the things with disruptor wars is that you can have real comebacks because you usually have two disruptors producing all the time, so after a fight you can stall/hurt the enemy army if they're advancing. And a bigger army can lose to a smaller, but better controlled one
Sounds like something there will be whine about to me
why?
I Had more bases but didn't win waaaaaaaah Turtling I don't know how to build tempest waaaah etc I have masters zergs tell me how ling bane is 100% luck people whine about everything
oh yeah, but starcraft players can whine about anything
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
lingbanemuta vs bio in TvT never got boring
I was bored by TvZ in HotS and I am already bored by tennis in PvP.
I like how you didn't note on the LBM vs bio in TvT :D
Well I was expecting it was just a typo so I ignored that as my inner grammar nazi is asleep
On February 16 2016 18:48 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 16 2016 18:47 HellHound wrote:
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
Ling Bane is Justice fuck you
lol i lost a match one time 'cause i fucking sneazed lol
On February 16 2016 18:47 deacon.frost wrote:
On February 16 2016 18:45 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
lingbanemuta vs bio in TvT never got boring
I was bored by TvZ in HotS and I am already bored by tennis in PvP.
What's not boring for you then ?
Variability. I like to be surprised by the game, to enjoy something new. When I know what will happen all the time, it's boring. And now I am not playing the game because it's so frustrating to play that I cannot appreciate stale meta in PvX games, because I don't play therefore I cannot take anything from the games
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
Yeah it is. Except more punishing
More punishing that "i blink my eyes i'm dead with no chance to ever recover" ?
One of the things with disruptor wars is that you can have real comebacks because you usually have two disruptors producing all the time, so after a fight you can stall/hurt the enemy army if they're advancing. And a bigger army can lose to a smaller, but better controlled one
Sounds like something there will be whine about to me
why?
I Had more bases but didn't win waaaaaaaah Turtling I don't know how to build tempest waaaah etc I have masters zergs tell me how ling bane is 100% luck people whine about everything
Did someone really told you lingbane wars are luck based ???? O_o
He went 13/12 3 times in a row and lost all of them to hatch first IT'S ALL LUCK CLEARLY
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
lingbanemuta vs bio in TvT never got boring
I was bored by TvZ in HotS and I am already bored by tennis in PvP.
I like how you didn't note on the LBM vs bio in TvT :D
Well I was expecting it was just a typo so I ignored that as my inner grammar nazi is asleep
On February 16 2016 18:48 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 16 2016 18:47 HellHound wrote:
On February 16 2016 18:44 FFW_Rude wrote: Is that really fantastic disruptor/stalkers play is like Ling bling. It's awesome to watch but i assum like ling/bane it's horrible to play ?
Ling Bane is Justice fuck you
lol i lost a match one time 'cause i fucking sneazed lol
On February 16 2016 18:47 deacon.frost wrote:
On February 16 2016 18:45 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 16 2016 18:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As much as that matchup is fun right now, I do hope it doesn't stay just blink+disruptor vs blink+disruptor forever. It'll get boring after a while
lingbanemuta vs bio in TvT never got boring
I was bored by TvZ in HotS and I am already bored by tennis in PvP.
What's not boring for you then ?
Variability. I like to be surprised by the game, to enjoy something new. When I know what will happen all the time, it's boring. And now I am not playing the game because it's so frustrating to play that I cannot appreciate stale meta in PvX games, because I don't play therefore I cannot take anything from the games
So basicly you're a Has fan ? ^^
I prefer sOs, as he aims for the late game, but yeah, that's it. Or Parting as he gives a shit about timings and many times he hits with later timing but with better control and rules the field(I still remember when some caster said "this won't work, the timing hits 30 seconds earlier with more stalkers" and then Parting just won with his blink control).
On February 16 2016 19:16 Pandemona wrote: Not sure if overlords or thomas the tank engine...why the poof poof smoke coming out as it goes along with speed lolol
Thomas is a dragon. You can't compare it to an overlord
On February 16 2016 19:16 Pandemona wrote: Not sure if overlords or thomas the tank engine...why the poof poof smoke coming out as it goes along with speed lolol
On February 16 2016 19:22 yoshi245 wrote: Toss throws ground army at zerg? Just have mass lurkers, lol. Wish Protoss can figure a way to stop those lurkers effectively enough in late game.
Not warping in 20 zealots in said zergs nat? You realise zest came out ahead in the trade?
On February 16 2016 19:27 opisska wrote: I never get why people kill off their own units instead of sending them to die on something with the off-chance of killing somwthing
On February 16 2016 19:27 opisska wrote: I never get why people kill off their own units instead of sending them to die on something with the off-chance of killing somwthing
It accomplishes the same thing quicker, and without giving away to your opponent what you're doing. He values information denial over potential damage.
Broodlords are the only thing that kill immortal+archon but because of the phoenix opener he is in perfect position to switch to tempest. This style out of Toss is crazy strong. If you watch some NA PvZ this is literally all they do. Funny to see it here
On February 16 2016 19:27 opisska wrote: I never get why people kill off their own units instead of sending them to die on something with the off-chance of killing somwthing
It accomplishes the same thing quicker, and without giving away to your opponent what you're doing. He values information denial over potential damage.
+ in that case there is nothing to damage 4 mined out bases and 20 lurkers.
On February 16 2016 19:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Broodlords are the only thing that kill immortal+archon but because of the phoenix opener he is in perfect position to switch to tempest. This style out of Toss is crazy strong. If you watch some NA PvZ this is literally all they do. Funny to see it here
On February 16 2016 19:34 Charoisaur wrote: TY in ace after losing so horribly..? Doesn't make much sense.
If you want to win on Prion, you don't field a Protoss. Which leaves KT with TY, jjakji, SpeeD, Leenock and Losira. And I know who I'd pick. Not to mention it's not like he played bad.
On February 16 2016 19:39 OtherWorld wrote: what the hell why both teams sent players who lost in the ace are all of these coaches crazy?
Because it was decided before today. I don't remember which teams does that but a few of them
You know the map in advance, so you figure out who will be best on the map, and have them prepare as well. Proleague is so much about pre-planning, it's kind of amazing.
On February 16 2016 19:39 OtherWorld wrote: what the hell why both teams sent players who lost in the ace are all of these coaches crazy?
Because it was decided before today. I don't remember which teams does that but a few of them
You know the map in advance, so you figure out who will be best on the map, and have them prepare as well. Proleague is so much about pre-planning, it's kind of amazing.
In particular on a map when normal build orders do not make sense.
On February 16 2016 19:39 OtherWorld wrote: what the hell why both teams sent players who lost in the ace are all of these coaches crazy?
Because it was decided before today. I don't remember which teams does that but a few of them
You know the map in advance, so you figure out who will be best on the map, and have them prepare as well. Proleague is so much about pre-planning, it's kind of amazing.
In particular on a map when normal build orders do not make sense.
On February 16 2016 19:53 sAsImre wrote: that was a really cool build order, so hard to read. A shame TY didn't had his liberator in place, it was holdable :'(
On February 16 2016 19:53 sAsImre wrote: that was a really cool build order, so hard to read. A shame TY didn't had his liberator in place, it was holdable :'(
That moment kinda luck because TY want move out his liberator.
KT coaching staff better send Leenock and Losira to do cheese builds against TY in practice, otherwise other zergs are gonna capitalize that against him.
On February 16 2016 20:00 yoshi245 wrote: KT coaching staff better send Leenock and Losira to do cheese builds against TY in practice, otherwise other zergs are gonna capitalize that against him.
I find out every macro terran players weak to cheese.
On February 16 2016 18:51 Isualin wrote: I hope this game doesn't end up as some weird nydus cheese or something. I want to see a long game with ultras and lots of liberation
Not only TY lost his game against soO in 3 minutes, the ace match was a nydus all in My wishes did not come true today
On February 16 2016 22:08 rotta wrote: So they made Stats captain but he still keeps getting benched for ace. Unfair.
The captain isn't always the best player or ace player, they are usually the team's spiritual or motivational backbone. Hoejja was captain for a long time.
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
KT won SC2 Proleague and produced a GSL champion before SKT did. Truly, a slap in the face. Plus, in the end they're both Telecom.
But now it's nowhere close to a rivalry. SKT has an unmatched line up. Their A-team is championship winners. Their B-team is "just" good. I'd be surprised if they lost any match in round robin format.
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
KT won SC2 Proleague and produced a GSL champion before SKT did. Truly, a slap in the face. Plus, in the end they're both Telecom.
But now it's nowhere close to a rivalry. SKT has an unmatched line up. Their A-team is championship winners. Their B-team is "just" good. I'd be surprised if they lost any match in round robin format.
I mean, they were on the verge of losing today. And KT didn't even bother with snipe builds, they all just played macro. So I don't think SKT is that invincible. Although their preparation for TY was pretty impressive.
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
KT won SC2 Proleague and produced a GSL champion before SKT did. Truly, a slap in the face. Plus, in the end they're both Telecom.
But now it's nowhere close to a rivalry. SKT has an unmatched line up. Their A-team is championship winners. Their B-team is "just" good. I'd be surprised if they lost any match in round robin format.
I mean, they were on the verge of losing today. And KT didn't even bother with snipe builds, they all just played macro. So I don't think SKT is that invincible. Although their preparation for TY was pretty impressive.
They focused on TY because they're still salty about what he did to Classic on 2014
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
KT won SC2 Proleague and produced a GSL champion before SKT did. Truly, a slap in the face. Plus, in the end they're both Telecom.
But now it's nowhere close to a rivalry. SKT has an unmatched line up. Their A-team is championship winners. Their B-team is "just" good. I'd be surprised if they lost any match in round robin format.
SKT's line up today is arguably worse in comparison to the field compared to when they lost the 2014 Proleague finals to KT.
SKT 2014 Proleague finals: Rain Parting Classic Fantasy Bravo Soulkey Dark SoO BravO
Today: Classic Dark Dream Impact Innovation Myungsik Sorry Zoun SoO
I don't think people remember just how ridiculous SKT's line up was for 2013-2014, SoO was arguably the second best player of the year and at least the most consistent, Parting was the best protoss coming into SKT, Classic and Rain were at least top 5, Dark was at least top 5, Soulkey was the best Zerg coming into SKT, Bravo was promising, and Fantasy only turned out to be a disappointment when he didn't perform. I think SKT's players had more finals appearances than KT had top 16's.
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
KT won SC2 Proleague and produced a GSL champion before SKT did. Truly, a slap in the face. Plus, in the end they're both Telecom.
But now it's nowhere close to a rivalry. SKT has an unmatched line up. Their A-team is championship winners. Their B-team is "just" good. I'd be surprised if they lost any match in round robin format.
SKT's line up today is arguably worse in comparison to the field compared to when they lost the 2014 Proleague finals to KT.
SKT 2014 Proleague finals: Rain Parting Classic Fantasy Bravo Soulkey Dark SoO BravO
Today: Classic Dark Dream Impact Innovation Myungsik Sorry Zoun SoO
I don't think people remember just how ridiculous SKT's line up was for 2013-2014, SoO was arguably the second best player of the year and at least the most consistent, Parting was the best protoss coming into SKT, Classic and Rain were at least top 5, Dark was at least top 5, Soulkey was the best Zerg coming into SKT, Bravo was promising, and Fantasy only turned out to be a disappointment when he didn't perform. I think SKT's players had more finals appearances than KT had top 16's.
on paper the 2013-2014 lineup certainly looks stronger but the players didn't all perform to their best. Soulkey had a bad year, soO and Classic were incredible in individual tournaments but disappointed in proleague (compared to their standards), PartinG and Rain really carried the team in that year. Now all players seem to be absolutely on fire and perform in PL maybe even better then in individual tournaments.
edit: also they didn't really have a strong terran which is a disadvantage in PL.
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
Nah, I'm pretty sure kt has even or winning record against SKT. It's just thta they've been losing to Jin air so much and Jin air losing to SKT. I think it's like rock scissor paper relationship among kt, skt and jinair
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
KT won SC2 Proleague and produced a GSL champion before SKT did. Truly, a slap in the face. Plus, in the end they're both Telecom.
But now it's nowhere close to a rivalry. SKT has an unmatched line up. Their A-team is championship winners. Their B-team is "just" good. I'd be surprised if they lost any match in round robin format.
SKT's line up today is arguably worse in comparison to the field compared to when they lost the 2014 Proleague finals to KT.
SKT 2014 Proleague finals: Rain Parting Classic Fantasy Bravo Soulkey Dark SoO BravO
Today: Classic Dark Dream Impact Innovation Myungsik Sorry Zoun SoO
I don't think people remember just how ridiculous SKT's line up was for 2013-2014, SoO was arguably the second best player of the year and at least the most consistent, Parting was the best protoss coming into SKT, Classic and Rain were at least top 5, Dark was at least top 5, Soulkey was the best Zerg coming into SKT, Bravo was promising, and Fantasy only turned out to be a disappointment when he didn't perform. I think SKT's players had more finals appearances than KT had top 16's.
on paper the 2013-2014 lineup certainly looks stronger but the players didn't all perform to their best. Soulkey had a bad year, soO and Classic were incredible in individual tournaments but disappointed in proleague (compared to their standards), PartinG and Rain really carried the team in that year. Now all players seem to be absolutely on fire and perform in PL maybe even better then in individual tournaments.
edit: also they didn't really have a strong terran which is a disadvantage in PL.
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
Nah, I'm pretty sure kt has even or winning record against SKT. It's just thta they've been losing to Jin air so much and Jin air losing to SKT. I think it's like rock scissor paper relationship among kt, skt and jinair
Actually, No. In like all the recent proleague round robin matches, SKT has rekted KT, only like Zest and Stats used the power of protoss to rekt SKT in playoffs, now that protoss is weak, KT has no player that can take up the mantle since Flash left (I mean, he almost all-killed Jin Air) and Zest and Stats are only good in one matchup (Namely, PvT and PvP)
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
KT won SC2 Proleague and produced a GSL champion before SKT did. Truly, a slap in the face. Plus, in the end they're both Telecom.
But now it's nowhere close to a rivalry. SKT has an unmatched line up. Their A-team is championship winners. Their B-team is "just" good. I'd be surprised if they lost any match in round robin format.
SKT's line up today is arguably worse in comparison to the field compared to when they lost the 2014 Proleague finals to KT.
SKT 2014 Proleague finals: Rain Parting Classic Fantasy Bravo Soulkey Dark SoO BravO
Today: Classic Dark Dream Impact Innovation Myungsik Sorry Zoun SoO
I don't think people remember just how ridiculous SKT's line up was for 2013-2014, SoO was arguably the second best player of the year and at least the most consistent, Parting was the best protoss coming into SKT, Classic and Rain were at least top 5, Dark was at least top 5, Soulkey was the best Zerg coming into SKT, Bravo was promising, and Fantasy only turned out to be a disappointment when he didn't perform. I think SKT's players had more finals appearances than KT had top 16's.
on paper the 2013-2014 lineup certainly looks stronger but the players didn't all perform to their best. Soulkey had a bad year, soO and Classic were incredible in individual tournaments but disappointed in proleague (compared to their standards), PartinG and Rain really carried the team in that year. Now all players seem to be absolutely on fire and perform in PL maybe even better then in individual tournaments.
edit: also they didn't really have a strong terran which is a disadvantage in PL.
But still on paper, SKT was crazy in 2014.
Rain went undefeated in playoff season.... (5:0), anyone else done that??
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
KT won SC2 Proleague and produced a GSL champion before SKT did. Truly, a slap in the face. Plus, in the end they're both Telecom.
But now it's nowhere close to a rivalry. SKT has an unmatched line up. Their A-team is championship winners. Their B-team is "just" good. I'd be surprised if they lost any match in round robin format.
SKT's line up today is arguably worse in comparison to the field compared to when they lost the 2014 Proleague finals to KT.
SKT 2014 Proleague finals: Rain Parting Classic Fantasy Bravo Soulkey Dark SoO BravO
Today: Classic Dark Dream Impact Innovation Myungsik Sorry Zoun SoO
I don't think people remember just how ridiculous SKT's line up was for 2013-2014, SoO was arguably the second best player of the year and at least the most consistent, Parting was the best protoss coming into SKT, Classic and Rain were at least top 5, Dark was at least top 5, Soulkey was the best Zerg coming into SKT, Bravo was promising, and Fantasy only turned out to be a disappointment when he didn't perform. I think SKT's players had more finals appearances than KT had top 16's.
on paper the 2013-2014 lineup certainly looks stronger but the players didn't all perform to their best. Soulkey had a bad year, soO and Classic were incredible in individual tournaments but disappointed in proleague (compared to their standards), PartinG and Rain really carried the team in that year. Now all players seem to be absolutely on fire and perform in PL maybe even better then in individual tournaments.
edit: also they didn't really have a strong terran which is a disadvantage in PL.
But still on paper, SKT was crazy in 2014.
Rain went undefeated in playoff season.... (5:0), anyone else done that??
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
Nah, I'm pretty sure kt has even or winning record against SKT. It's just thta they've been losing to Jin air so much and Jin air losing to SKT. I think it's like rock scissor paper relationship among kt, skt and jinair
Actually, No. In like all the recent proleague round robin matches, SKT has rekted KT, only like Zest and Stats used the power of protoss to rekt SKT in playoffs, now that protoss is weak, KT has no player that can take up the mantle since Flash left (I mean, he almost all-killed Jin Air) and Zest and Stats are only good in one matchup (Namely, PvT and PvP)
Then you could say both CJ and SKT used the power of ZvT to reck maru and steal the playoffs from Jinair, zergs had quite an unfair advantage in muta ling bane
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
Nah, I'm pretty sure kt has even or winning record against SKT. It's just thta they've been losing to Jin air so much and Jin air losing to SKT. I think it's like rock scissor paper relationship among kt, skt and jinair
Actually, No. In like all the recent proleague round robin matches, SKT has rekted KT, only like Zest and Stats used the power of protoss to rekt SKT in playoffs, now that protoss is weak, KT has no player that can take up the mantle since Flash left (I mean, he almost all-killed Jin Air) and Zest and Stats are only good in one matchup (Namely, PvT and PvP)
Then you could say both CJ and SKT used the power of ZvT to reck maru and steal the playoffs from Jinair, zergs had quite an unfair advantage in muta ling bane
not really, Maru was just mediocre at TvZ and SKT had 2 of the best ZvT players in the world
Apparently FlaSh was there with KT, too Ah, this is sad. We should have took the game. I think the reason why KT didn't send Zest was he has to play his GSL matches tomorrow
Apparently FlaSh was there with KT, too Ah, this is sad. We should have took the game. I think the reason why KT didn't send Zest was he has to play his GSL matches tomorrow
Aww Flash!!!
I gotta hurry up and visit Korean soon and meet him!
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
Nah, I'm pretty sure kt has even or winning record against SKT. It's just thta they've been losing to Jin air so much and Jin air losing to SKT. I think it's like rock scissor paper relationship among kt, skt and jinair
Actually, No. In like all the recent proleague round robin matches, SKT has rekted KT, only like Zest and Stats used the power of protoss to rekt SKT in playoffs, now that protoss is weak, KT has no player that can take up the mantle since Flash left (I mean, he almost all-killed Jin Air) and Zest and Stats are only good in one matchup (Namely, PvT and PvP)
Then you could say both CJ and SKT used the power of ZvT to reck maru and steal the playoffs from Jinair, zergs had quite an unfair advantage in muta ling bane
not really, Maru was just mediocre at TvZ and SKT had 2 of the best ZvT players in the world
Then I guess equally kt had two of the best protosses and did not just use “the power of protoss ” to “steal” the playoffs from skt
On February 16 2016 17:38 Pandemona wrote: We posted within about 2-3 minutes of eachother Rude, and i want a break so you are the hero I edited your OP to put right banner in, remember guys there is a LR resource thread with all the OPs pre made by me as Lorning sucks these days http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/339146-sc2-lr-resources?page=93#1851
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
KT won SC2 Proleague and produced a GSL champion before SKT did. Truly, a slap in the face. Plus, in the end they're both Telecom.
Oh, wow, you take pride in that acievement?? that's a laughable achievement, KT FINALLY produced an individual championship in like 3 years after entering the SC2 scene. SKT produced a OSL champion (Just as hard as GSL) in Rain (Who also was the first KeSPA player to be in a GSL semifinal) like 3 months after the transfer from BW to SC2 in WOL..... try to beat that + Show Spoiler +
oh wait, YOU CAN'T LOL
SKT also had 2 full SKT players Starleague finals in 2014 and 1 in starleague and 1 KeSPa Cup SKT final in 2015, remind me how many GSL Finals were KT finals? + Show Spoiler +
oh wait, there were 0 finals
in HOTS, SKT was in 2 proleague finals: they won one, they lost one, and KT was only in one, and won it. so in terms of proleague. still SKT > KT And in BW until Flash came it was almost always SKT > KT, and then SKT still won some when Flash was on there team. so yeah.... In BW SKT won like 15 team Tournaments and KT won like, well...... 4 SKT has like 11 individual tournament wins in SC2 and KT has like, well...... 6 So in SC2 and BW SKT has 16 and KT has like well......5 which brings me to the conclusion: SKT has more Individual player championships in both BW and SC2 SKT has more dual finals in individual tournaments in SC2. SKt has a better all-time (both BW and SC2) head-to-head record against KT.
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
KT won SC2 Proleague and produced a GSL champion before SKT did. Truly, a slap in the face. Plus, in the end they're both Telecom.
SKT produced a OSL champion in Rain like 3 months after the transfer from BW to SC2 in WOL..... try to beat that + Show Spoiler +
oh wait, YOU CAN'T LOL
SKT also had 2 full SKT players Starleague finals in 2014 and 1 in starleague and 1 KeSPa Cup SKT final in 2015, remind me how many GSL Finals were KT finals? + Show Spoiler +
oh wait, there were 0 finals
in HOTS, SKT was in 2 proleague finals: they won one, they lost one, and KT was only in one, and won it. so in terms of proleague. still SKT > KT And in BW until Flash came it was almost always SKT > KT, and then SKT still won some when Flash was on there team. so yeah.... In BW SKT won like 15 team Tournaments and KT won like, well...... 4 SKT has like 11 individual tournament wins in SC2 and KT has like, well...... 6 So in SC2 and BW SKT has 16 and KT has like well......5 which brings me to the conclusion: SKT has more Individual player championships in both BW and SC2 SKT has more dual finals in individual tournaments in SC2. SKt has a better all-time (both BW and SC2) head-to-head record against KT. so yeah, SKT > KT lobsters
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
KT won SC2 Proleague and produced a GSL champion before SKT did. Truly, a slap in the face. Plus, in the end they're both Telecom.
But now it's nowhere close to a rivalry. SKT has an unmatched line up. Their A-team is championship winners. Their B-team is "just" good. I'd be surprised if they lost any match in round robin format.
SKT's line up today is arguably worse in comparison to the field compared to when they lost the 2014 Proleague finals to KT.
SKT 2014 Proleague finals: Rain Parting Classic Fantasy Bravo Soulkey Dark SoO BravO
Today: Classic Dark Dream Impact Innovation Myungsik Sorry Zoun SoO
I don't think people remember just how ridiculous SKT's line up was for 2013-2014, SoO was arguably the second best player of the year and at least the most consistent, Parting was the best protoss coming into SKT, Classic and Rain were at least top 5, Dark was at least top 5, Soulkey was the best Zerg coming into SKT, Bravo was promising, and Fantasy only turned out to be a disappointment when he didn't perform. I think SKT's players had more finals appearances than KT had top 16's.
on paper the 2013-2014 lineup certainly looks stronger but the players didn't all perform to their best. Soulkey had a bad year, soO and Classic were incredible in individual tournaments but disappointed in proleague (compared to their standards), PartinG and Rain really carried the team in that year. Now all players seem to be absolutely on fire and perform in PL maybe even better then in individual tournaments.
edit: also they didn't really have a strong terran which is a disadvantage in PL.
But still on paper, SKT was crazy in 2014.
Rain went undefeated in playoff season.... (5:0), anyone else done that??
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
Nah, I'm pretty sure kt has even or winning record against SKT. It's just thta they've been losing to Jin air so much and Jin air losing to SKT. I think it's like rock scissor paper relationship among kt, skt and jinair
Actually, No. In like all the recent proleague round robin matches, SKT has rekted KT, only like Zest and Stats used the power of protoss to rekt SKT in playoffs, now that protoss is weak, KT has no player that can take up the mantle since Flash left (I mean, he almost all-killed Jin Air) and Zest and Stats are only good in one matchup (Namely, PvT and PvP)
Then you could say both CJ and SKT used the power of ZvT to reck maru and steal the playoffs from Jinair, zergs had quite an unfair advantage in muta ling bane
not really, Maru was just mediocre at TvZ and SKT had 2 of the best ZvT players in the world
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
Nah, I'm pretty sure kt has even or winning record against SKT. It's just thta they've been losing to Jin air so much and Jin air losing to SKT. I think it's like rock scissor paper relationship among kt, skt and jinair
Actually, No. In like all the recent proleague round robin matches, SKT has rekted KT, only like Zest and Stats used the power of protoss to rekt SKT in playoffs, now that protoss is weak, KT has no player that can take up the mantle since Flash left (I mean, he almost all-killed Jin Air) and Zest and Stats are only good in one matchup (Namely, PvT and PvP)
Then you could say both CJ and SKT used the power of ZvT to reck maru and steal the playoffs from Jinair, zergs had quite an unfair advantage in muta ling bane
not really, Maru was just mediocre at TvZ and SKT had 2 of the best ZvT players in the world
They upload VOD's of SSL and Proleague about 6-8 hours after they're done playing every time. If the games you're looking for are hard to find in the upload list, they also update their playlists pretty quickly.
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
KT won SC2 Proleague and produced a GSL champion before SKT did. Truly, a slap in the face. Plus, in the end they're both Telecom.
Oh, wow, you take pride in that acievement?? that's a laughable achievement, KT FINALLY produced an individual championship in like 3 years after entering the SC2 scene. SKT produced a OSL champion (Just as hard as GSL) in Rain (Who also was the first KeSPA player to be in a GSL semifinal) like 3 months after the transfer from BW to SC2 in WOL..... try to beat that + Show Spoiler +
oh wait, YOU CAN'T LOL
SKT also had 2 full SKT players Starleague finals in 2014 and 1 in starleague and 1 KeSPa Cup SKT final in 2015, remind me how many GSL Finals were KT finals? + Show Spoiler +
oh wait, there were 0 finals
in HOTS, SKT was in 2 proleague finals: they won one, they lost one, and KT was only in one, and won it. so in terms of proleague. still SKT > KT And in BW until Flash came it was almost always SKT > KT, and then SKT still won some when Flash was on there team. so yeah.... In BW SKT won like 15 team Tournaments and KT won like, well...... 4 SKT has like 11 individual tournament wins in SC2 and KT has like, well...... 6 So in SC2 and BW SKT has 16 and KT has like well......5 which brings me to the conclusion: SKT has more Individual player championships in both BW and SC2 SKT has more dual finals in individual tournaments in SC2. SKt has a better all-time (both BW and SC2) head-to-head record against KT.
so yeah, SKT > KT lobsters
You missed the point. Completely. Nobody was talking about who's better. It was about whether they can still be considered rivals in SC2 (aka every BW point you listed is also meaningless). It doesn't take much to figure out SKT has won way more stuff, especially in 2015 (which was a pretty insane year from SKT). Although I guess in missing the point you at least proved you still consider KT rivals worthy of your time, so thanks for that.
yeah man the "who's best KT" thing is always about friendly banter, not serious posts stating your undeniably superiority which we all -including KT fans- know of. So let's keep the fun going.
On February 21 2016 02:38 Silvana wrote: yeah man the "who's best KT" thing is always about friendly banter, not serious posts stating your undeniably superiority which we all -including KT fans- know of. So let's keep the fun going.
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
KT won SC2 Proleague and produced a GSL champion before SKT did. Truly, a slap in the face. Plus, in the end they're both Telecom.
Oh, wow, you take pride in that acievement?? that's a laughable achievement, KT FINALLY produced an individual championship in like 3 years after entering the SC2 scene. SKT produced a OSL champion (Just as hard as GSL) in Rain (Who also was the first KeSPA player to be in a GSL semifinal) like 3 months after the transfer from BW to SC2 in WOL..... try to beat that + Show Spoiler +
oh wait, YOU CAN'T LOL
SKT also had 2 full SKT players Starleague finals in 2014 and 1 in starleague and 1 KeSPa Cup SKT final in 2015, remind me how many GSL Finals were KT finals? + Show Spoiler +
oh wait, there were 0 finals
in HOTS, SKT was in 2 proleague finals: they won one, they lost one, and KT was only in one, and won it. so in terms of proleague. still SKT > KT And in BW until Flash came it was almost always SKT > KT, and then SKT still won some when Flash was on there team. so yeah.... In BW SKT won like 15 team Tournaments and KT won like, well...... 4 SKT has like 11 individual tournament wins in SC2 and KT has like, well...... 6 So in SC2 and BW SKT has 16 and KT has like well......5 which brings me to the conclusion: SKT has more Individual player championships in both BW and SC2 SKT has more dual finals in individual tournaments in SC2. SKt has a better all-time (both BW and SC2) head-to-head record against KT.
so yeah, SKT > KT lobsters
You missed the point. Completely. Nobody was talking about who's better. It was about whether they can still be considered rivals in SC2 (aka every BW point you listed is also meaningless). It doesn't take much to figure out SKT has won way more stuff, especially in 2015 (which was a pretty insane year from SKT). Although I guess in missing the point you at least proved you still consider KT rivals worthy of your time, so thanks for that.
I guess you're right... I never said they weren't rivals, KT and SKT are one of the biggest team rivals in SC2....they're up there with EG vs Team Liquid vs Acer as the biggest team rivals
On February 21 2016 02:38 Silvana wrote: yeah man the "who's best KT" thing is always about friendly banter, not serious posts stating your undeniably superiority which we all -including KT fans- know of. So let's keep the fun going.
On February 16 2016 23:57 Poopi wrote: Rivals? Hasn't SKT been unmatched so far in sc2? (and LoL)
KT won SC2 Proleague and produced a GSL champion before SKT did. Truly, a slap in the face. Plus, in the end they're both Telecom.
Oh, wow, you take pride in that acievement?? that's a laughable achievement, KT FINALLY produced an individual championship in like 3 years after entering the SC2 scene. SKT produced a OSL champion (Just as hard as GSL) in Rain (Who also was the first KeSPA player to be in a GSL semifinal) like 3 months after the transfer from BW to SC2 in WOL..... try to beat that + Show Spoiler +
oh wait, YOU CAN'T LOL
SKT also had 2 full SKT players Starleague finals in 2014 and 1 in starleague and 1 KeSPa Cup SKT final in 2015, remind me how many GSL Finals were KT finals? + Show Spoiler +
oh wait, there were 0 finals
in HOTS, SKT was in 2 proleague finals: they won one, they lost one, and KT was only in one, and won it. so in terms of proleague. still SKT > KT And in BW until Flash came it was almost always SKT > KT, and then SKT still won some when Flash was on there team. so yeah.... In BW SKT won like 15 team Tournaments and KT won like, well...... 4 SKT has like 11 individual tournament wins in SC2 and KT has like, well...... 6 So in SC2 and BW SKT has 16 and KT has like well......5 which brings me to the conclusion: SKT has more Individual player championships in both BW and SC2 SKT has more dual finals in individual tournaments in SC2. SKt has a better all-time (both BW and SC2) head-to-head record against KT.
so yeah, SKT > KT lobsters
You missed the point. Completely. Nobody was talking about who's better. It was about whether they can still be considered rivals in SC2 (aka every BW point you listed is also meaningless). It doesn't take much to figure out SKT has won way more stuff, especially in 2015 (which was a pretty insane year from SKT). Although I guess in missing the point you at least proved you still consider KT rivals worthy of your time, so thanks for that.
I guess you're right... I never said they weren't rivals, KT and SKT are one of the biggest team rivals in SC2....they're up there with EG vs Team Liquid vs Acer as the biggest team rivals
Yeah, for sure. Although personally I thought the rivalry was more enjoyable when SKT wasn't in SC2 godmode, slaying fools left and right. That last season of Proleague was way too onesided for me. Though I guess that made it twice as good for you.
Btw sorry if I sounded harsh in the previous comment, didn't mean to