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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 02 2016 08:18 GMT
#821
On February 02 2016 17:16 Noonius wrote:
someone needs to make the PL thread so I can start bashing that JA terran


Ask and you shall receive.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 08:22:35
February 02 2016 08:19 GMT
#822
On February 02 2016 17:14 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 17:10 Noonius wrote:
the patch changed NOTHING


Protoss win games -> bad patch!


Protoss win games because Protoss chose to do a build, as opposed to because Protoss had fantastic mechanics and multitasking -> bad patch.

Builds should not be strong. There should not be a thing called a "strong build that is hard to defend." Every single build should come down to execution. You want to all in with Stalkers and Adepts? Great, that means you're trying to win in 5 minutes instead of 20, so let's see you condense the amount of skill you'd normally display in a 20 minute game into a 5 minute window. Let's see you play better than you ever played before in your life. Then you win. GG.

Not this "I made units and they're pretty great and I made a Pylon and it's pretty great too unless you get a super lucky WM shot off at just the right second" nonsense. What an ill-conceived race. Protoss is Russian roulette except the gun is held together with duct tape and you slip extra bullets into the chamber when it's the other guy's turn to pull the trigger.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
February 02 2016 08:21 GMT
#823
was the final worth it ? couldn't watch it
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
February 02 2016 08:21 GMT
#824
On February 02 2016 17:21 Makro wrote:
was the final worth it ? couldn't watch it

Amazing! If you are an sOs fan.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 02 2016 08:22 GMT
#825
On February 02 2016 17:21 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 17:21 Makro wrote:
was the final worth it ? couldn't watch it

Amazing! If you are an sOs fan.


Or just general Protoss bullshittery fan!
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
February 02 2016 08:22 GMT
#826
On February 02 2016 17:21 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 17:21 Makro wrote:
was the final worth it ? couldn't watch it

Amazing! If you are an sOs fan.


horrible, if you're a sc2 fan

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
February 02 2016 08:23 GMT
#827
On February 02 2016 17:19 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 17:14 WrathSCII wrote:
On February 02 2016 17:10 Noonius wrote:
the patch changed NOTHING


Protoss win games -> bad patch!


Protoss win games because Protoss chose to do a build, as opposed to because Protoss had fantastic mechanics and multitasking -> bad patch.

Builds should not be strong. There should not be a thing called a "strong build that is hard to defend." Every single build should come down to execution. You want to all in with Stalkers and Adepts? Great, that means you're trying to win in 5 minutes instead of 20, so let's see you condense the amount of skill you'd normally display in a 20 minute game into a 5 minute window. Let's see you play better than you ever played before in your life. Then you win. GG.

Not this "I made units and they're pretty great and I made a Pylon and it's pretty great too unless you get a super lucky WM shot off at just the right second" nonsense. What an ill-conceived race.

If you allin and your opponent doesn't scout and doesn't prepare you lose, no matter the matchup.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
February 02 2016 08:23 GMT
#828
On February 02 2016 17:22 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 17:21 Diabolique wrote:
On February 02 2016 17:21 Makro wrote:
was the final worth it ? couldn't watch it

Amazing! If you are an sOs fan.


horrible, if you're a sc2 fan


I disagree.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
February 02 2016 08:25 GMT
#829
On February 02 2016 16:27 Phredxor wrote:
Ok now that's awesome.

Yes, I think so. The whole series was awesome.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
February 02 2016 08:26 GMT
#830
On February 02 2016 16:29 Noonius wrote:
gold bases are stupid

Just to see what kind of BS-er is criticizing the finals :-)
According to him, gold bases are protoss bullshit :-)
You can't take this kind of people seriously :-)
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
February 02 2016 08:28 GMT
#831
On February 02 2016 17:26 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 16:29 Noonius wrote:
gold bases are stupid

Just to see what kind of BS-er is criticizing the finals :-)
According to him, gold bases are protoss bullshit :-)
You can't take this kind of people seriously :-)

He also, god knows why, hates Maru.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 08:31:54
February 02 2016 08:31 GMT
#832
On February 02 2016 17:28 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 17:26 Diabolique wrote:
On February 02 2016 16:29 Noonius wrote:
gold bases are stupid

Just to see what kind of BS-er is criticizing the finals :-)
According to him, gold bases are protoss bullshit :-)
You can't take this kind of people seriously :-)

He also, god knows why, hates Maru.

The only stupid thing is that Proleague is starting in 30 minutes. This means going to sleep at noon :-(
But it was worth it.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5595 Posts
February 02 2016 08:31 GMT
#833
Two bad days and a player can be sidelined from individual competition for essentially half a year. This has already happened to Blizzcon champion sOs, for example.

I wonder if 12$k's enough to dry all them tears...
don't wall off against random
Roadog
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1670 Posts
February 02 2016 08:33 GMT
#834
On February 02 2016 17:23 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 17:19 pure.Wasted wrote:
On February 02 2016 17:14 WrathSCII wrote:
On February 02 2016 17:10 Noonius wrote:
the patch changed NOTHING


Protoss win games -> bad patch!


Protoss win games because Protoss chose to do a build, as opposed to because Protoss had fantastic mechanics and multitasking -> bad patch.

Builds should not be strong. There should not be a thing called a "strong build that is hard to defend." Every single build should come down to execution. You want to all in with Stalkers and Adepts? Great, that means you're trying to win in 5 minutes instead of 20, so let's see you condense the amount of skill you'd normally display in a 20 minute game into a 5 minute window. Let's see you play better than you ever played before in your life. Then you win. GG.

Not this "I made units and they're pretty great and I made a Pylon and it's pretty great too unless you get a super lucky WM shot off at just the right second" nonsense. What an ill-conceived race.

If you allin and your opponent doesn't scout and doesn't prepare you lose, no matter the matchup.


Not sure if sarcastic or you accidentally mixed up who's supposed to win in your example.
sOs fan. Zerg just seem to have the most...potential. Dubbo Robo Colo! Why I play Protoss: Stalkers, bacon, toilets and mama -- Chelsea FC
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
February 02 2016 08:45 GMT
#835
well gonna wait the VODs then
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 09:04:32
February 02 2016 09:00 GMT
#836
On February 02 2016 17:23 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 17:19 pure.Wasted wrote:
On February 02 2016 17:14 WrathSCII wrote:
On February 02 2016 17:10 Noonius wrote:
the patch changed NOTHING


Protoss win games -> bad patch!


Protoss win games because Protoss chose to do a build, as opposed to because Protoss had fantastic mechanics and multitasking -> bad patch.

Builds should not be strong. There should not be a thing called a "strong build that is hard to defend." Every single build should come down to execution. You want to all in with Stalkers and Adepts? Great, that means you're trying to win in 5 minutes instead of 20, so let's see you condense the amount of skill you'd normally display in a 20 minute game into a 5 minute window. Let's see you play better than you ever played before in your life. Then you win. GG.

Not this "I made units and they're pretty great and I made a Pylon and it's pretty great too unless you get a super lucky WM shot off at just the right second" nonsense. What an ill-conceived race.

If you allin and your opponent doesn't scout and doesn't prepare you lose, no matter the matchup.


You say this like it is a fact of life, but it isn't. This is deliberate (or, more likely, accidental) game design. You cannot "all in" in chess, tennis, soccer, or hockey, and catch an opponent off guard because he didn't "scout and prepare." You can all in in poker, but that gives you no advantages; an all in can be read and reacted to exactly as easily as any other play.

It isn't a fact of RTS design, either. SC2 does not have to have extremely powerful aggressive openings that end games when unscouted/not flawlessly defended (although the attack itself is on autopilot). You know what SC2 not having these things looks like? Every good HotS TvZ, every good HotS TvT. Every TvP after WoL, from the Terran perspective. Making these strategies available propagates BO wins and helps shitty players beat better players, because scouting something will ALWAYS be harder than hiding it (unless you're Zerg).

TvP is a shit match up, and has been for years, because when it isn't Protoss deathballs slaying everything with lasers, it's Protoss forcing the Terran to play russian roulette. "Which build do you think I'm going to try to FUCKING END YOUR ENTIRE EXISTENCE with RIGHT NOW 30 SECONDS FROM NOW? I HOPE YOU GUESSED CORRECTLY AND THEN SCOUTED AND THEN DEFENDED IT ALSO." Or else you're dead. Even though you're Roger Federer and I only picked up a racquet last night for the first time. In what universe can this be called an entertaining and fair competition?
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9246 Posts
February 02 2016 09:17 GMT
#837
Correct me if I'm wrong but not a single Zealot was made in this grand final
You're now breathing manually
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 09:53:03
February 02 2016 09:52 GMT
#838
What this was on? Holy shit talk about bad times.

Grats sOs I guess.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
February 02 2016 10:11 GMT
#839
On February 02 2016 17:23 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 17:19 pure.Wasted wrote:
On February 02 2016 17:14 WrathSCII wrote:
On February 02 2016 17:10 Noonius wrote:
the patch changed NOTHING


Protoss win games -> bad patch!


Protoss win games because Protoss chose to do a build, as opposed to because Protoss had fantastic mechanics and multitasking -> bad patch.

Builds should not be strong. There should not be a thing called a "strong build that is hard to defend." Every single build should come down to execution. You want to all in with Stalkers and Adepts? Great, that means you're trying to win in 5 minutes instead of 20, so let's see you condense the amount of skill you'd normally display in a 20 minute game into a 5 minute window. Let's see you play better than you ever played before in your life. Then you win. GG.

Not this "I made units and they're pretty great and I made a Pylon and it's pretty great too unless you get a super lucky WM shot off at just the right second" nonsense. What an ill-conceived race.

If you allin and your opponent doesn't scout and doesn't prepare you lose, no matter the matchup.

Not if your opponents has pylons well placed lol.
Maybe with the new patch but I think you hold most of T allins after FE.
WriterMaru
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
February 02 2016 12:14 GMT
#840
Wow $o$ has done it again! A true high-roller bonjwa!

Beating herO and digging into his sneaky bag of tricks in the finals - typical of $o$ alright!

Anyone has a link to VODS or rebroadcast? Can't wait to watch!
gg no re thx
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