EPTOn February 02 2016 17:16 Noonius wrote:
someone needs to make the PL thread so I can start bashing that JA terran
someone needs to make the PL thread so I can start bashing that JA terran
Ask and you shall receive.
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
Ask and you shall receive. | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
Protoss win games because Protoss chose to do a build, as opposed to because Protoss had fantastic mechanics and multitasking -> bad patch. Builds should not be strong. There should not be a thing called a "strong build that is hard to defend." Every single build should come down to execution. You want to all in with Stalkers and Adepts? Great, that means you're trying to win in 5 minutes instead of 20, so let's see you condense the amount of skill you'd normally display in a 20 minute game into a 5 minute window. Let's see you play better than you ever played before in your life. Then you win. GG. Not this "I made units and they're pretty great and I made a Pylon and it's pretty great too unless you get a super lucky WM shot off at just the right second" nonsense. What an ill-conceived race. Protoss is Russian roulette except the gun is held together with duct tape and you slip extra bullets into the chamber when it's the other guy's turn to pull the trigger. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On February 02 2016 17:21 Makro wrote: was the final worth it ? couldn't watch it Amazing! If you are an sOs fan. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
Or just general Protoss bullshittery fan! | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
horrible, if you're a sc2 fan | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15979 Posts
On February 02 2016 17:19 pure.Wasted wrote: Protoss win games because Protoss chose to do a build, as opposed to because Protoss had fantastic mechanics and multitasking -> bad patch. Builds should not be strong. There should not be a thing called a "strong build that is hard to defend." Every single build should come down to execution. You want to all in with Stalkers and Adepts? Great, that means you're trying to win in 5 minutes instead of 20, so let's see you condense the amount of skill you'd normally display in a 20 minute game into a 5 minute window. Let's see you play better than you ever played before in your life. Then you win. GG. Not this "I made units and they're pretty great and I made a Pylon and it's pretty great too unless you get a super lucky WM shot off at just the right second" nonsense. What an ill-conceived race. If you allin and your opponent doesn't scout and doesn't prepare you lose, no matter the matchup. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
I disagree. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On February 02 2016 16:27 Phredxor wrote: Ok now that's awesome. Yes, I think so. The whole series was awesome. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On February 02 2016 16:29 Noonius wrote: gold bases are stupid Just to see what kind of BS-er is criticizing the finals :-) According to him, gold bases are protoss bullshit :-) You can't take this kind of people seriously :-) | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 02 2016 17:26 Diabolique wrote: Just to see what kind of BS-er is criticizing the finals :-) According to him, gold bases are protoss bullshit :-) You can't take this kind of people seriously :-) He also, god knows why, hates Maru. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
The only stupid thing is that Proleague is starting in 30 minutes. This means going to sleep at noon :-( But it was worth it. | ||
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rotta
5589 Posts
Two bad days and a player can be sidelined from individual competition for essentially half a year. This has already happened to Blizzcon champion sOs, for example. I wonder if 12$k's enough to dry all them tears... | ||
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Roadog
Canada1670 Posts
On February 02 2016 17:23 Charoisaur wrote: If you allin and your opponent doesn't scout and doesn't prepare you lose, no matter the matchup. Not sure if sarcastic or you accidentally mixed up who's supposed to win in your example. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On February 02 2016 17:23 Charoisaur wrote: If you allin and your opponent doesn't scout and doesn't prepare you lose, no matter the matchup. You say this like it is a fact of life, but it isn't. This is deliberate (or, more likely, accidental) game design. You cannot "all in" in chess, tennis, soccer, or hockey, and catch an opponent off guard because he didn't "scout and prepare." You can all in in poker, but that gives you no advantages; an all in can be read and reacted to exactly as easily as any other play. It isn't a fact of RTS design, either. SC2 does not have to have extremely powerful aggressive openings that end games when unscouted/not flawlessly defended (although the attack itself is on autopilot). You know what SC2 not having these things looks like? Every good HotS TvZ, every good HotS TvT. Every TvP after WoL, from the Terran perspective. Making these strategies available propagates BO wins and helps shitty players beat better players, because scouting something will ALWAYS be harder than hiding it (unless you're Zerg). TvP is a shit match up, and has been for years, because when it isn't Protoss deathballs slaying everything with lasers, it's Protoss forcing the Terran to play russian roulette. "Which build do you think I'm going to try to FUCKING END YOUR ENTIRE EXISTENCE with RIGHT NOW 30 SECONDS FROM NOW? I HOPE YOU GUESSED CORRECTLY AND THEN SCOUTED AND THEN DEFENDED IT ALSO." Or else you're dead. Even though you're Roger Federer and I only picked up a racquet last night for the first time. In what universe can this be called an entertaining and fair competition? | ||
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Sent.
Poland9218 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
Grats sOs I guess. | ||
Poopi
France12901 Posts
On February 02 2016 17:23 Charoisaur wrote: If you allin and your opponent doesn't scout and doesn't prepare you lose, no matter the matchup. Not if your opponents has pylons well placed lol. Maybe with the new patch but I think you hold most of T allins after FE. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
 Beating herO and digging into his sneaky bag of tricks in the finals - typical of $o$ alright! Anyone has a link to VODS or rebroadcast? Can't wait to watch! | ||
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